By substituting in....

[Iwastherein1969]

the second half when we had a 51-46 lead almost cost us the game. When we substituted in the "you know who's" team, Seton Hall went on a 12-1 run which took us from a widening 5 point lead to a 6 point deficit. The deficit allowed Seton Hall to play a slow down half court game and we had fallen right into their trap. Now I know what the people who disagree with me are going to say, "Our boys need rest". To which I say, if you can't play at least 35+ minutes in what could be your last game as a Razorback, well I question the conditioning. Also, to those who cry, "Our boys need rest", one must understand that time outs at the designated slots during the game are almost twice as long as regular season games as CBS and its affiliates must get in a full amount of commercials to pay the type of money to the NCAA they do for covering the game. So there's a lot more hidden rests for the players than during a regular season. Notice how neither coach felt the need to call a time out ? Put it this way, neither team was close to using up it's allotted time outs. Again, the culprit ? Long TV time outs.

Bottom line we almost lost a game today we should have won by double digits simply because we substituted in some players who weren't quite up to the moment and a couple who looked lost. The 12-1 run by Seton Hall against our subs put our starters in a hole which they shouldn't have had to navigate. Anyway, I'm proud of the boys for a great year no matter what happens Sunday. After all, we did bust Dickie V's bracket a bit and Moses got to prove his worth to the NBA.  But the boys didn't need nearly as much rests as usual for two reasons, the adrenaline of possibly playing their last game of the year or forever, and 2) the TV time outs being much longer than normal.

[Hooch]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

[HiggiePiggy]

Interesting......

[ShadowHawg]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

[Stewhog 11]

Our biggest advantage in tournament play is our depth, which is why we have been so good late in games this year, and you want to change it up and go 7 deep? Players do get tired, and do need rest, but they also get in foul trouble. If we don't use our bench what do we do when two of our starters foul out with 5 minutes left and we have to go the rest of the way with those players you're so afraid of getting on the floor?

[Razorod]

Recruiting is always the key. We're still not at a point where we have the quality we need from our bench. It's getting better, but still lacking in many ways.

JMO, recruiting will always be the key with Anderson. He's improved it some, but still needs to finish '17 and '18 classes strong.

Anderson teams will not truly be great until we're a true 10-11 deep.

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

I could have sworn we beat a quality team in the big dance today.

I'm sure if we somehow beat Carolina we will STILL see you ass clowns posting "we won but...".

[rwspear]

Good theory with some validity solely due to the TO for the tourney being longer. But Mike doesn't always use his TO anyway. I do think that Beard drags this team down, and I hate that. I wouldn't seeing Jones during those substitutions though because if they're making a run, he at least has a chance to get going offensively and make some baskets. Regardless, the team we played today was a good one. Sure, we could have won by double digits, but fighting back to win is just another feather in the cap.

its not a good theory. it has no validity.

[ricepig]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

Of the first order.....

[HawgnCorona]

I could have sworn we beat a quality team in the big dance today.

I'm sure if we somehow beat Carolina we will STILL see you ass clowns posting "we won but...".

Yep, from the Big Least. SH actually played Villanova tough...

[jbigs77]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

Well I guess you said what I was thinking after I read this nonsense. We do need to guard the 3 point shot better. But if we could get the calls on the penetration better, we can compete with NC

[Dirty]

Did we lose the game?

[PonderinHog]

Did we lose the game?

We almost lost.  We need to almost lose five more.

[rude1]

OR it gave our players the needed rest to finish the game strongly, 23-11 I believe in the last 10 minutes of the game. Complain when it doesn't work?

[labb]

If, if, if we don't have the turnovers and blown fast break opportunities in the first half we would have been up about ten at half.

[Martygit]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

The key word in this response is "due" - and he's due nothing - with no respect "you are a ******* idiot"

[Tusks]

The key word in this response is "due" - and he's due nothing - with no respect "you are a ******* idiot"

[ShadowHawg]

It does have validity in that when certain lineups are out there, the points for/against margin is vastly different...

The notion that the other team got fatigued has more validity, given they went 1/10 from the floor in the final minutes.

I have watched SH several times. They are tough kids and beating them by double digits on a neutral court wasn't likely.

[hogman99]

the second half when we had a 51-46 lead almost cost us the game. When we substituted in the "you know who's" team, Seton Hall went on a 12-1 run which took us from a widening 5 point lead to a 6 point deficit. The deficit allowed Seton Hall to play a slow down half court game and we had fallen right into their trap. Now I know what the people who disagree with me are going to say, "Our boys need rest". To which I say, if you can't play at least 35+ minutes in what could be your last game as a Razorback, well I question the conditioning. Also, to those who cry, "Our boys need rest", one must understand that time outs at the designated slots during the game are almost twice as long as regular season games as CBS and its affiliates must get in a full amount of commercials to pay the type of money to the NCAA they do for covering the game. So there's a lot more hidden rests for the players than during a regular season. Notice how neither coach felt the need to call a time out ? Put it this way, neither team was close to using up it's allotted time outs. Again, the culprit ? Long TV time outs.

Bottom line we almost lost a game today we should have won by double digits simply because we substituted in some players who weren't quite up to the moment and a couple who looked lost. The 12-1 run by Seton Hall against our subs put our starters in a hole which they shouldn't have had to navigate. Anyway, I'm proud of the boys for a great year no matter what happens Sunday. After all, we did bust Dickie V's bracket a bit and Moses got to prove his worth to the NBA.  But the boys didn't need nearly as much rests as usual for two reasons, the adrenaline of possibly playing their last game of the year or forever, and 2) the TV time outs being much longer than normal.

This is quite accurate, great post. You have to sub, but let them play 3-4 minutes not 6-8 minutes. All around the TV timeouts and then you get more wall clock time.

[bhogs05]

I'm fine with the substitutions as long as a certain guard doesn't play..I do think we could shorten the lengths of substitutions especially if the subs start losing the lead like they did today.  Plus some of the lineups we have when we sub just can't get any offense going. 

[Danny J]

Recruiting is always the key. We're still not at a point where we have the quality we need from our bench. It's getting better, but still lacking in many ways.

JMO, recruiting will always be the key with Anderson. He's improved it some, but still needs to finish '17 and '18 classes strong.

Anderson teams will not truly be great until we're a true 10-11 deep.

Agree...we need to capitalize after our appearance this year...the last go around was a total disaster recruiting after basically the exact, if not better, season. We played and lost to UK in the sect, beat Wofford and lost to a 4 seed UNC. This year we lost to UK in the sect, beat SH and play a 1 seed UNC. We need to burn up the trail looking to sign at least 2 more. I have a gut feeling, based on nothing but my gut, that Barford will go pro. I hope that doesn't happen. I also feel someone transfers.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Or it won us the game by keeping our top guys fresh

[Bigmac2]

I believe what hurt us was with about 3 or 4  minutes left we were up by a couple of scores and MA decided to try and milk some clock taking us out of the flow. I may be totally wrong on the timing of it but it definitely affected us. It may have been the right decision but man I was worried at the time.

[BrooklynRoss]

'Now I know what the people who disagree with me are going to say, "Our boys need rest".' (and one line later) 'Also, to those who cry, "Our boys need rest"'

I'm a writer and I despise editors. However, you, sir, need an editor.

[upperdeck_hawg]

I'm ok with Cook never seeing any time unless were up 20

[sickboy]

Well, tell it to Seton Hall. Their guys could have used some rest during the game because -- for some strange reason -- we had more gas in the tank at the end of the game than Seton Hall. Weird how that works.

[synthartist69]

Well, you do have a point. I did notice that when Beard went in he made several mistakes which hurt.

[Scott7703]

I'm fine with the substitutions as long as a certain guard doesn't play..I do think we could shorten the lengths of substitutions especially if the subs start losing the lead like they did today.  Plus some of the lineups we have when we sub just can't get any offense going. 

Agree with this. It's time to shrink the rotation down to about 7 guys unless foul trouble forces otherwise.

[WorfHog]

You should become a coach see how well you can do at recruiting and coaching a NCAA tourney team. Give it a shot.

[rwspear]

It does have validity in that when certain lineups are out there, the points for/against margin is vastly different...

so why dont we just play our best 5 the entire game?

[HouSwine]

Well, tell it to Seton Hall. Their guys could have used some rest during the game because -- for some strange reason -- we had more gas in the tank at the end of the game than Seton Hall. Weird how that works.

Yep. Weird. Almost as if it were planned that way.

[MissippHog]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

I could have sworn we beat a quality team in the big dance today.

I'm sure if we somehow beat Carolina we will STILL see you ass clowns posting "we won but...".

Of the first order.....

[Carl Lazlo]

Beard does come up with the occasional steal.  But he's guilty of turning it over..

[sowmonella]

With all due respect you are a *** idiot.

[jesterzzn]

The deficit allowed Seton Hall to play a slow down half court game and we had fallen right into their trap.

Do you think a hunter that shoots a dear and then tracks it until it dies from blood loss fell into the dear's trap just because after he shot the dear it was able to run away for a few minutes?

Mike Anderson laid the trap, not the other way around.  They expended all their energy and by the 8 minute mark they had no legs.  Yes they had a lead, but that was the trap.  It worked.

The goal is to be ahead at the end.

[azhog10]

There's so much fail in this post.

[azhog10]

Beard does come up with the occasional steal.  But he's guilty of turning it over..

We had 10 total turnovers as a team. Beard had two. Hardly a game filled with turnovers.

[Iwastherein1969]

'Now I know what the people who disagree with me are going to say, "Our boys need rest".' (and one line later) 'Also, to those who cry, "Our boys need rest"'

I'm a writer and I despise editors. However, you, sir, need an editor.

Are you up for the job ?  I realized that I put "our boys need rest" in the post twice and I did so to emphasize a point ? Am I a writer ? No, I never claimed to be. If you are a writer, I suggest you begin writing a short story, a column, a novel or whatever type of writing you do because critiquing posts in a forum such as this seems to be a huge waste of time. By the way, one hopes you are not writing for a newspaper because that dinosaur is on it's last leg. Also, if you are a writer good luck on making a nice living for yourself. And one more thing, if your craft is writing, I, unless you are a trust fund baby, can likely buy and sell you out of my front pocket. So please go find another set of gonads in which to bury yourself.

I can take people who have differing opinions, even those who vehemently disagree. You don't fall within that group.

[Stewhog 11]

Are you up for the job ?  I realized that I put "our boys need rest" in the post twice and I did so to emphasize a point ? Am I a writer ? No, I never claimed to be. If you are a writer, I suggest you begin writing a short story, a column, a novel or whatever type of writing you do because critiquing posts in a forum such as this seems to be a huge waste of time. By the way, one hopes you are not writing for a newspaper because that dinosaur is on it's last leg. Also, if you are a writer good luck on making a nice living for yourself. And one more thing, if your craft is writing, I, unless you are a trust fund baby, can likely buy and sell you out of my front pocket. So please go find another set of gonads in which to bury yourself.

I can take people who have differing opinions, even those who vehemently disagree. You don't fall within that group.

go to bed

[BrooklynRoss]

Are you up for the job ?  I realized that I put "our boys need rest" in the post twice and I did so to emphasize a point ? Am I a writer ? No, I never claimed to be. If you are a writer, I suggest you begin writing a short story, a column, a novel or whatever type of writing you do because critiquing posts in a forum such as this seems to be a huge waste of time. By the way, one hopes you are not writing for a newspaper because that dinosaur is on it's last leg. Also, if you are a writer good luck on making a nice living for yourself. And one more thing, if your craft is writing, I, unless you are a trust fund baby, can likely buy and sell you out of my front pocket. So please go find another set of gonads in which to bury yourself.

I can take people who have differing opinions, even those who vehemently disagree. You don't fall within that group.

You can buy and sell me? Perfect. I am 100% down with selling my company to you. That's actually a great idea. I'm more or less retired, anyway, and would love to dump my assets. Let's talk.

[niels_boar]

Our coach managed the game with the goal of having the lead at the end of the game instead of the 8-minute mark.  It was a 70-possession game in which four players were given 30+ minutes.  He could have played them 40 minutes, but they probably would have been exhausted and in foul trouble at crunch time.  That's exactly what happened to Seton Hall.

[Iwastherein1969]

go to bed

run away from home..it will increase the weekly allowance from your parents

[Iwastherein1969]

Our coach managed the game with the goal of having the lead at the end of the game instead of the 8-minute mark.  It was a 70-possession game in which four players were given 30+ minutes.  He could have played them 40 minutes, but they probably would have been exhausted and in foul trouble at crunch time.  That's exactly what happened to Seton Hall.

Are you seriously trying to convince me that it was in the game plan to take a 5 point lead, sub-in players for 5 minutes while the other team goes on a 12-1 run and force a come back the last 6 minutes. Our coach realizing the game would end on a walk called on the opposition followed two plays later by a flagrant 1 foul to seal the win ? Wowser !  I wanna take you to the race track with me, fella.

[BrooklynRoss]

Are you seriously trying to convince me that it was in the game plan to take a 5 point lead, sub-in players for 5 minutes while the other team goes on a 12-1 run and force a come back the last 6 minutes. Our coach realizing the game would end on a walk called on the opposition followed two plays later by a flagrant 1 foul to seal the win ? Wowser !  I wanna take you to the race track with me, fella.

It actually wouldn't benefit you to take him to the race track because (as you pointed out, yourself) he was being sarcastic.

[Cinco de Hogo]

All I can add to this thread is the observation that if Coach employs the same strategy against UNC it's probably going to end badly.  However the fact that he did do it in this game may help the starters last longer in the next game.  Do t think it would have mattered to me when I was twenty.

[Rawker]

Of the first order.....

....so you have that going for you.

[ShadowHawg]

All I can add to this thread is the observation that if Coach employs the same strategy against UNC it's probably going to end badly.  However the fact that he did do it in this game may help the starters last longer in the next game.  Do t think it would have mattered to me when I was twenty.

It would have. I don't think some here understand the strength and speed it takes to keep up with top flite D1 talent.

We have outscored our opponents by nearly 200 points in the second half of our games this season. Why do you guys think that is?

[12247]

1969 has valid points that are justified.  Mike Anderson has some talent in jerking defeat from the jaws of victory.  However, this team has covered the basic bucket list for this season and I believe, Mike Anderson has been the HC through it all. 

I am not Mr. Anderson's biggest fan, FCJ wouldn't allow that.  But we are where we hoped to be at this point in the season and I feel blessed for that.  Lets see how we stack up against a top 5 team on Sunday.

[Dr. Starcs]

Do you think a hunter that shoots a dear and then tracks it until it dies from blood loss fell into the dear's trap just because after he shot the dear it was able to run away for a few minutes?

Mike Anderson laid the trap, not the other way around.  They expended all their energy and by the 8 minute mark they had no legs.  Yes they had a lead, but that was the trap.  It worked.

The goal is to be ahead at the end.

Oh deer.

[lynbug]

1969 has valid points that are justified.  Mike Anderson has some talent in jerking defeat from the jaws of victory.  However, this team has covered the basic bucket list for this season and I believe, Mike Anderson has been the HC through it all. 

I am not Mr. Anderson's biggest fan, FCJ wouldn't allow that.  But we are where we hoped to be at this point in the season and I feel blessed for that.  Lets see how we stack up against a top 5 team on Sunday.

My only problem is that when the second team (of Mikes choice)....Beard, Macon, Thompson, Cook, and one of the original five come in.....we better hope that Macon is on (which he wasn't yesterday), Thompson is fully alert, Cook has taken a chill pill and, last but not least, Beard doesn't do too much driving to the basket.  If all those things are going on....we will lose a small lead.  Sometimes I question the player rotations.