I'd hate to be Bruce Pearl right now

[NuttinItUp]

Is that what we've come to instead of just expecting to reach a similar level of competitiveness since of 30 years after the fact?

Pretty sure he was joking.

[Hawg Red]

Pretty sure he was joking.

Should have been funnier.

[ShadowHawg]

I'm had thought that the last 2 season as well. I'm starting to wonder if Pearl just isn't as good as I thought he was.

How much evidence is there for microwave rebuilds in comparison to prolonged examples?

Changing a mindset from being a losing one to a winning one is the hardest thing to do in sports. It takes TIME. You have to validate your positive results in the minds of the players before they believe, and they have to believe before they fully buy in.

People point to Mike White as a successful hire. White didn't have to change a culture. The expectation to win was already present in the mindsets of his players the first time they practiced. All that was left was to not screw it up until the kids learned his system well enough to excel in it.

Switch White and Pearl and I think you would still believe Pearl knows how to coach.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Switch White and Pearl and I think you would still believe Pearl knows how to coach.

Yeah, but Pearl was hired with the reputation of being a quick turnaround guy.  Whether it's fair or not, I think Auburn folks expected him to have done better by now.  (Although I think that says more about Auburn than Pearl)

As an aside, you're on, ShadowHawg.  Point-counterpoint today in Jump Ball.

[ShadowHawg]

Yeah, but Pearl was hired with the reputation of being a quick turnaround guy.  Whether it's fair or not, I think Auburn folks expected him to have done better by now.  (Although I think that says more about Auburn than Pearl)

As an aside, you're on, ShadowHawg.  Point-counterpoint today in Jump Ball.

I agree about the perception surrounding his hire completely and how it seems to be going.

[HognitiveDissonance]

Yeah, but Pearl was hired with the reputation of being a quick turnaround guy.  Whether it's fair or not, I think Auburn folks expected him to have done better by now.  (Although I think that says more about Auburn than Pearl)

As an aside, you're on, ShadowHawg.  Point-counterpoint today in Jump Ball.

Agree that it says more about Auburn than Pearl.
Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, etc just seemingly don't 'get' basketball. They go through the motions, build arenas, hire/fire coaches but there seemingly is just too much 'football' engrained at those places for something else to take off. That's my only explanation. They sure do recruit well at times. Just never seem to sustain any success. Only temporary.

Having said that, I wouldn't want Pearl here. Too much baggage. You know what they say, a leopard can't change his spots. Before what happened at Tenn, there was the controversy long ago when he turned Illinois into the NCAA over the recruitment of a high-profile player in the late 80s. He was known as a snitch, not because he was turning people in, but was considered fairly 'dirty' himself. He wasn't liked too much in the coaching profession, maybe still isn't.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Agree that it says more about Auburn than Pearl.
Auburn, Georgia, Alabama, etc just seemingly don't 'get' basketball. They go through the motions, build arenas, hire/fire coaches but there seemingly is just too much 'football' engrained at those places for something else to take off. That's my only explanation. They sure do recruit well at times. Just never seem to sustain any success. Only temporary.

From another thread...

There are just too many schools in the SEC where basketball will always be behind football, spring football, and national signing day when it comes to fan interest.  Sure, some of these schools will have the occasional group that gets their fanbase mildly excited, but then those guys leave and the interest dies down.  I'd put Georgia, South Carolina, Alabama, Auburn, LSU, the two Mississippi schools and A&M in that category.

Having said that, I wouldn't want Pearl here. Too much baggage. You know what they say, a leopard can't change his spots. Before what happened at Tenn, there was the controversy long ago when he turned Illinois into the NCAA over the recruitment of a high-profile player in the late 80s. He was known as a snitch, not because he was turning people in, but was considered fairly 'dirty' himself. He wasn't liked too much in the coaching profession, maybe still isn't.

I think he and Kelvin Sampson are twin sons from different mothers.  Very similar careers.

[Youngsta71701]

I bet he's wishing he was somewhere else.

He should be fired affective immediately! The nerve of him to lose to Missouri!

[Timfromlittlerockhog]

https://twitter.com/DannyWest1/status/839701190254477318

Fire MIKE !!!

[hogsanity]

He should be fired affective immediately! The nerve of him to lose to Missouri!

Just gotta give him time to get in his players to play they way he wants to play. 3 years is only maybe 35-40% of the time needed. I hear his 2021 recruiting class is outstanding, need to at least let him get those guys in.

[Youngsta71701]

Just gotta give him time to get in his players to play they way he wants to play. 3 years is only maybe 35-40% of the time needed. I hear his 2021 recruiting class is outstanding, need to at least let him get those guys in.

Lol, we're finally on the same page .

[hogsanity]

Lol, we're finally on the same page .

yes I am pretty sure we were both being sarcastic.

[azhog10]

Two Sweet 16s and an Elite 8 in a 4 year period doesn't sound awesome to you? NCAA tournament all 6 years. If you count his time at Milwaukee, he went to three Sweet 16s and an Elite 8 in a 6 year period. Sign me up for success like that.

Mike went to the tourney 6 out of 8 years with one Elite 8, and 1 sweet 16. That's with switching schools.

[hogsanity]

Mike went to the tourney 6 out of 8 years with one Elite 8, and 1 sweet 16. That's with switching schools.

So in a 6 year span at 2 schools, Pearl went to 3 sweet 16's and that included switching schools, but somehow that's not as good as going to 1 sweet 16 and 1 elite in 8 years, which included switching schools?

[Youngsta71701]

yes I am pretty sure we were both being sarcastic.

[Youngsta71701]

So in a 6 year span at 2 schools, Pearl went to 3 sweet 16's and that included switching schools, but somehow that's not as good as going to 1 sweet 16 and 1 elite in 8 years, which included switching schools?

You love to debate huh? Or is it just a Mike thing ?

[Hawg Red]

Mike went to the tourney 6 out of 8 years with one Elite 8, and 1 sweet 16. That's with switching schools.

We didn't get any of that. What he did at UAB and Missouri did nothing for my Arkansas Razorback fan desires. The statement still stands.

[Hog_Swanson]

[PonderinHog]

Queue the resident hugger...