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Timfromlittlerockhog

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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2017, 08:32:43 am »

Count yourself fortunate to have meaningful internet choices. Those of us stuck on DSL connections are getting left behind. Even though I've cut the cord, my DSL speed is starting to show signs of stress. While changes that take power away from the cable and satellite companies are a positive development, these changes are likely playing into the hands of Internet providers.

Its ironic but true. America is among the slowest among all countries in terms of internet speed. Apparently when the cables were buried the cable companies got the rights way back when and they are to blame for the travesty. We are like a third world country in terms of internet speed. I consider myself lucky to live in Conway. Mine is pretty fast compared to those in rural Arkansas.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #51 on: March 02, 2017, 08:36:46 am »

Go to walmart and buy a Roku streaming box for 79.99 and then go to https://vue.playstation.com and start your free trial. You will not be disappointed.

What about DVR services ?
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #52 on: March 02, 2017, 05:09:04 pm »

What about DVR services ?

Playstation Vue has DVR capability. 
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2017, 06:09:54 pm »

Thinking about using PS Vue with an AppleTV.

Thoughts?
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2017, 01:10:48 am »

Do these internet sensations have to pay espn for their networks? Surely they do. If so why would the revenue to espn and schools be any diffeeent. Apparently the same people that are cutting the cord are buying sling tv or Playstation vue.

Far more people are cutting cable completely.  The message board is a bad sample for how many people use these services because users are more tech savvy and more likely to use them.

I have wondered this myself.  Obviously ESPN gets something. It is possible they get $7 and providerss can keep a $35 or whatever price point, with a small channel line up, but ESPN is not in as powerful of a position as they normally would be.  They are desperate to replace lost revenue.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #55 on: March 03, 2017, 01:15:29 am »

Thinking about using PS Vue with an AppleTV.

Thoughts?

i dont think you will be disappointed at all
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #56 on: March 03, 2017, 07:35:22 am »

I generally call uverse every year or so and threaten to leave so they keep giving me $50 a month off. For three tv boxes and super fast internet we pay about $180 a month. If it was just internet after taxes and fees it would be around  $70. Tack on one of these services or two and to me I really am not saving a whole lot considering I currently have everything uverse offers including all sports channels and all premium movie sources. If I didn't have all the options we currently have the wife and I would probably go out to eat and a movie a few times more a month which would cost me a whole lot more than the paltry savings of cutting the cord

On PS vue I don't see Military History or History channels so big deal breaker there.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #57 on: March 04, 2017, 10:10:44 am »

On PS vue I don't see Military History or History channels so big deal breaker there.

I don't know about those two channels specifically, but many channels are now available via apps that run on the Amazon and / or Roku devices.  If your internet is good, that might be an option worth checking out.
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« Reply #58 on: March 04, 2017, 10:31:59 am »

I don't know about those two channels specifically, but many channels are now available via apps that run on the Amazon and / or Roku devices.  If your internet is good, that might be an option worth checking out.

I'm more than happy paying UVERSE for their services. PSVue's top package is $74 a month. High speed internet is around that after fees so I'm not saving much at all really to get what I want currently on my three TV's with UVERSE
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #59 on: March 04, 2017, 10:33:49 am »

I generally call uverse every year or so and threaten to leave so they keep giving me $50 a month off. For three tv boxes and super fast internet we pay about $180 a month. If it was just internet after taxes and fees it would be around  $70. Tack on one of these services or two and to me I really am not saving a whole lot considering I currently have everything uverse offers including all sports channels and all premium movie sources. If I didn't have all the options we currently have the wife and I would probably go out to eat and a movie a few times more a month which would cost me a whole lot more than the paltry savings of cutting the cord

On PS vue I don't see Military History or History channels so big deal breaker there.

Come Tuesday I'm going to be a FiOS/Roku/SlingTV user...costs half what BrightHouse cable charges for TV/internet.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #60 on: March 04, 2017, 10:57:43 am »

I've been a Roku & Sling user since 2015. Each August I add the sports package on the Sling subscription through March then cancel it. Sling is continually adding channels so the variety is constantly changing and the change is always for the good. Absolutely no complaints and the money  I keep each month has been well worth the change.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #61 on: March 05, 2017, 12:00:47 am »

Will this have any stations that Sling doesn't have?

I have had good luck with Sling.
I'm not sure what all Sling has to offer, but we have a package that includes 103 channels, plus sports channels (NFL, college sports, baseball, hockey, NBA). It's a one-time fee per year. And you use the app on your phone or iPad.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #62 on: March 05, 2017, 01:26:00 am »

I watch about 20 games a week and rewatch about ten of those again. In the offseason I rewatch about 10'games a week.


Very few of these are on networks.




For the NFL o use to be as serious, this last season I watched maybe 10'games total. To me football is a dying beast or at least I don't care or gamble as much at the pro level. College got to be like that a little for me this year .... I didn't watch near as meany
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #63 on: March 05, 2017, 02:40:33 am »

Hey, Clay Travis, look up. INCOMING!
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #64 on: March 05, 2017, 10:26:22 am »

I'm not sure Cox and AT&T have the bandwidth to support a large percentage of people going to full time video streaming.
We don't have TV only Internet and cox sent us a bill showing our new gig use plan. I don't remember our max gig allotment but we only use around 240 gigs a month. This was new to me.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #65 on: March 05, 2017, 01:04:43 pm »

 :razorback:

I cancelled SlingTv and picked up DirecTv Now. I've not missed any Razorback games, plus I have Kodi and get USTV now Plus for free along with all the movies I care to watch. USTV gives you network programming live, and DirecTv Now has about 90 channels for 35.00.  If you sign up in the first offering you get upgraded package at 35.00 for life........

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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #66 on: March 06, 2017, 11:32:01 am »

Cut the cord at the first of the year and not missing a beat.

I went with PS Vue because you could watch up to 5 at a time and we have 4 person household.  I think at the time Sling was 3 don't know if that's changed.

Live in NW Bentonville and get about 40 over the air channels as well.  Now some of them are crap but isn't that the same with cable and these are at least free.

Used this Antenna's Direct Antenna and put it in my attic.  You can get it for $80 at Walmart.  I also bought a signal splitter/amplifier at Lowe's.  The amplifier doesn't make the incoming signal any stronger but it boosts it pushing it to all the TVs.  My house was pre-wired for cable with the main box also in the attic.  I just unhooked the cable and then routed the antenna to the splitter and then connected the leads going to the rooms in the house to the splitter.  I'm watching all the TVs in my house off the one antenna in the attic and signal is great.

It's not perfect, DVR on PS VUE is fine for the traditional cable channels but can't DVR over the air unless you buy a DVR, but for the network stuff most is available on demand the next day anyway, so for the $150 per month I'm saving I'll take it. 

One thing I have found is that since I cut the cord I'm actually watching less TV.  I'm not worried about shows I did or did not DVR.  Live is better with more money and less TV.

 
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« Reply #67 on: March 06, 2017, 08:26:40 pm »

Dwight,

That's interesting you said you are watching less TV since cutting the cord because that is exactly the same result around our household as well.  I'd hate to think I was watching a lot of bad TV simply because of the money I paid for it but assuming that observation was / is incorrect, are others here finding the same result:

Did cutting the cord result in your watching less TV? 
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« Reply #68 on: March 07, 2017, 01:25:41 pm »

Dwight,

That's interesting you said you are watching less TV since cutting the cord because that is exactly the same result around our household as well.  I'd hate to think I was watching a lot of bad TV simply because of the money I paid for it but assuming that observation was / is incorrect, are others here finding the same result:

Did cutting the cord result in your watching less TV? 

Same for me as well; less tv watching overall. The only things I watch live anymore is college football and March Madness with Sling. (cancel it during the other months)

For everything else, I either do Hulu or Netflix. Basically the same as a DVR (the shows just appear in my queue) but just much cheaper than paying for cable or satellite.
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« Reply #69 on: March 07, 2017, 04:02:49 pm »

I've had Sling and a Chromecast for close to a year and it's good for me. $27 a month and that's with a sports package added at $5.

Because I have Sling I have access to the WatchESPN app and I use it for anything on the ESPN channels.

The ESPN app casts via Chromecast close to flawlessly for me. I think the Sling app itself needs some work when it comes to casting via Chromecast, though. I just watch anything on it on my phone instead of casting.
I only used sling and ESPN Watch during football season and it worked out good since I needed a subscription to watch Arkansas Football. The world has come to cable and satellite and I refuse to pay the high cost for any of them. At one time there was a provider that charged 1 dollar per channel and you decided the channels but money is everything and it only lasted a couple of years. I have a different idea for this year football and it will cost about $10 per month with sec channel. We will see.
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« Reply #70 on: March 07, 2017, 04:35:59 pm »

You can also use your PS Vue login to gain access to The Watch ESPN App with
SEC Network + ( regular SEC Network is part of the $34.99 package).  I used it for the Basbeall series this past weekend. 

Highly recommend PS Vue on either PS4 or Roku.

Does PS Vue offer NBA League Pass by chance so you know?
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #71 on: March 07, 2017, 05:43:25 pm »

Dwight,

That's interesting you said you are watching less TV since cutting the cord because that is exactly the same result around our household as well.  I'd hate to think I was watching a lot of bad TV simply because of the money I paid for it but assuming that observation was / is incorrect, are others here finding the same result:

Did cutting the cord result in your watching less TV? 

Honestly I think it's the DVR situation as much as anything.  I'd DVR a bunch of shows then constantly watch stuff I had DVR'd, compared to the olden days when if you missed something you just missed it.  The DVR was a constant reminder hey you need to watch this, and you need to watch it because it's taking up space on the DVR so you need to watch and then erase.  It's like you are a slave to the DVR.  The PS VUE has a DVR feature and I still use it but it's not taking up any real memory or staring me in the face.

Now if I miss a show I may still find it on demand or I might just say screw it.

You make a valid point about watching due to the financial investment as well.  If I'm paying for it by God I better watch all of it.

Between the money saved and the time spent doing other things I'd say my QofL has gone up due to cutting the cord.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #72 on: March 07, 2017, 06:29:18 pm »

Dwight,

That's interesting you said you are watching less TV since cutting the cord because that is exactly the same result around our household as well.  I'd hate to think I was watching a lot of bad TV simply because of the money I paid for it but assuming that observation was / is incorrect, are others here finding the same result:

Did cutting the cord result in your watching less TV?

I didn't watch much television to begin with outside of sports. What I am finding is that when I do watch tv, I'm watching what I want to watch instead of just picking the best from what is available.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #73 on: March 07, 2017, 07:46:58 pm »

if i cut the cord can we watch different programs on different tv's with sling? Can we dvr programs, we do that alot.
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #74 on: March 07, 2017, 08:16:25 pm »

if i cut the cord can we watch different programs on different tv's with sling? Can we dvr programs, we do that alot.

I have 20 TERAs  of hard drive . I record literally almost everything that intrests me. It's out there man. I think that's something like 4000 hours of recordings. It's out there. And cheap. Just research
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Re: YouTube changing the college football economy?
« Reply #75 on: March 08, 2017, 06:04:54 am »

if i cut the cord can we watch different programs on different tv's with sling? Can we dvr programs, we do that alot.

Not sure about the DVR, but even if you have multiple tv's, you can only watch one show at a time. Got my Roku express yesterday and literally watched the entire "People vs OJ Simpson" well into early this am. Excellent show and I am sure I'm really gonna like SlingTV/Roku. Piss on cable.
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« Reply #76 on: March 08, 2017, 08:37:18 am »

Not sure about the DVR, but even if you have multiple tv's, you can only watch one show at a time. Got my Roku express yesterday and literally watched the entire "People vs OJ Simpson" well into early this am. Excellent show and I am sure I'm really gonna like SlingTV/Roku. Piss on cable.

so, if I want to watch a game, the wife wants to watch dwts and my kid wants to watch a movie - 2 of us are out of luck as far as the tv sets go? Yea, that ain't gonna work.
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« Reply #77 on: March 08, 2017, 09:42:20 am »

so, if I want to watch a game, the wife wants to watch dwts and my kid wants to watch a movie - 2 of us are out of luck as far as the tv sets go? Yea, that ain't gonna work.

I am pretty sure that if you place a Roku device on each of your televisions, they can each watch unique programming simultaneously.
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« Reply #78 on: March 08, 2017, 06:35:49 pm »

I am pretty sure that if you place a Roku device on each of your televisions, they can each watch unique programming simultaneously.

We have 2 Amazon devices and a Roku running concurrently.  Only limitation is bandwidth....
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« Reply #79 on: March 08, 2017, 09:06:48 pm »

I am pretty sure that if you place a Roku device on each of your televisions, they can each watch unique programming simultaneously.

Didn't think of that.....I guess you could. I just remember reading online a few days ago that the Roku Express doesn't allow you to watch two different programs at once. If that's the case, I'm gonna go back to WalMart Saturday and get another for the bedroom instead of using this splitter.
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« Reply #80 on: March 08, 2017, 10:05:41 pm »

Didn't think of that.....I guess you could. I just remember reading online a few days ago that the Roku Express doesn't allow you to watch two different programs at once. If that's the case, I'm gonna go back to WalMart Saturday and get another for the bedroom instead of using this splitter.

Get the box for 79.00. Better cpu and ram which makes for a better streaming experience.
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« Reply #81 on: March 08, 2017, 10:25:26 pm »

This is the way the world is heading, and it's great for consumers.  However, when it comes to watching a game on a 70" 4ktv with a dvr, I find that the better deal. 
I'll use this as leverage when Sunday Ticket rolls around.  Directv will roll over and give it to me free because I'll say I'm leaving you for you tube TV.   Works like a charm.

enjoy your 100-200$ a month bill... meanwhile the rest of us will get 6 months of TV for the price of that one month, oh and it will also be on my 70'' 4k tv. :)
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« Reply #82 on: March 09, 2017, 09:47:34 am »

enjoy your 100-200$ a month bill... meanwhile the rest of us will get 6 months of TV for the price of that one month, oh and it will also be on my 70'' 4k tv. :)

do you also figure in the price of the internet service you have to have to stream the programs, plus the device to get it to the tv ( roku, fire stick, etc ) plus any device you have to have to function like a dvr?

I pay under $200 a month for cable/phone/internet and that includes about 200 channels plus hbo/showtime/ etc. Then again there are 4 of us with varying viewing likes. 

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