Ole Miss

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/NealMcCready/status/834518716951957504

https://twitter.com/NealMcCready/status/834518967616167948

https://twitter.com/NealMcCready/status/834519803691950086

https://twitter.com/NealMcCready/status/834519948814868481

https://twitter.com/NealMcCready/status/834520989249724417

[rljjr]

I think that's going to be just the beginning. Hugh Freeze is mentioned according to Finebaum, as is the phrase, "failure to monitor." He's talking on the fly as it's coming out, so nothing is concrete other than what you're seeing from McCready. Finebaum calls the charges, "pretty serious."

Just passing along info.

[ricepig]

http://footballscoop.com/news/ole-miss-gets-hammered-ncaa-plans-appeal/

[MrKnowItAll]

Ole Miss Response

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/834521135282806785

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/834522468186353664

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/834522468186353664

[hobhog]

You could probably attribute that kind of activity to at least 3/4 of SEC schools.

really?

[The Hawg Marshal]

You could probably attribute that kind of activity to at least 3/4 of SEC schools.

That may be true, as I have no way to know. But if you get caught you have to pay.

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/DanWolken/status/834520711200923648

[hobhog]

This is as bad as I have heard in recent years that only involved recruiting cheating. Sounds like NCAA is flexing its muscle. Must have a lot to work with. See ya Black Bears.

[Cambridge Hog]

Freeze is a convict spinning his innocence.

[Karma]

I guess they will have to forfeit their victories over us the last three years.

Oh wait . . . 

[stronguard]

Old Mrs........ were the 2 victories over Bama worth it?  Everyone knew they were cheating, all it took was a losing season for the rats to jump ship

[Hognipotent]

NCAA will make an example of ole miss, hugh freeze will regret his cheating for sure. Can't say i'm surprised

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/_BlakeEddins/status/834526931982893060

[hawginbigd1]

Sure am glad we aren't getting a bunch of top 10 recruiting classes all of a sudden. Apparently that causes problems!;)

[The_Iceman]

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Any truth to the rumor that Ole Miss is trying to get the bowl ban to apply retroactive to the 2016 season?

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Hugh is going to try to hide behind his man of God schtick.  The flow of bible verses coming out of the man's mouth will be unprecedented.  Love their self imposed bowl ban when their chances of going to a bowl were slim to none anyway.

What gets me is their unquestioned loyalty to Freeze. Regardless of who did what it happened under his watch.  He's an OK coach at best, and their rise was due in most part to talent which on the whole their results fell below the talent they had.  Now the talent is going to be unsustainable so why bother with him?

[factchecker]

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/834530255750598656

[Jackrabbit Hog]

https://twitter.com/BruceFeldmanCFB/status/834530255750598656

Smart kid.  Probably a finance major somewhere now.

[ricepig]

Hugh is going to try to hide behind his man of God schtick.  The flow of bible verses coming out of the man's mouth will be unprecedented.  Love their self imposed bowl ban when their chances of going to a bowl were slim to none anyway.

What gets me is their unquestioned loyalty to Freeze. Regardless of who did what it happened under his watch.  He's an OK coach at best, and their rise was due in most part to talent which on the whole their results fell below the talent they had.  Now the talent is going to be unsustainable so why bother with him?

Ummm.....maybe he knows too much???

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

Ummm.....maybe he knows too much???

It would be career suicide to utter a word of it if that is the case.  He may look inbred but he's not stupid.

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/RazorBloggers/status/834531127717142528

[MrKnowItAll]

It would be career suicide to utter a word of it if that is the case.  He may look inbred but he's not stupid.

[Wildhog]

They should get a scholarship reduction, too. 

[ShadowHawg]

I remember when Ole Miss started landing those top 10 classes. I told some friends they were cheating.

Shame of it is that there are people who got pissed because we weren't recruiting at that level. After all, Ole Miss was doing it.

[Dropkick]

They should get a scholarship reduction, too. 

From what I have seen they are self imposing giving up 11 in next 4 years so it will be that or worse I guess.

[Karma]

NCAA is dropping the hammer. The west may get a little easier for a few years.

[Hawgphish]

gifts, dinners, hunting trips, cars, for recruits and also athletes who are members of another university.  So dirty.  It will be interesting to see if the gains from cheating out weigh the penalties of getting caught.  Let's go NCAA.  We are watching you.

[jgphillips3]

Good.  Everyone knew they were cheating.  You don't jump from being the bottom feeder in the West with a history of racial intolerance to the dream destination of elite black football players overnight without money changing hands or a Hall of Fame level coach...and even then it might still take money.  If the NCAA had overlooked this one, the floodgates would open and nobody would play by the rules or the NCAA would just be abolished by the major conferences.

[pigture perfect]

The state of Mississippi produces enough talent to pull a top 10 class every so often. I Hate it for some friends of mine down there. Sure wish they would investigate Auburn and Bama as hard.

[rzrbk4life]

All that cheating and nothing to show for it...

[sowmonella]

Nafoom idiots are starting to pizz on themselves.

[Wildhog]

All that cheating and nothing to show for it...

They won a Sugar Bowl.

[Wildhog]

Nafoom idiots are starting to pizz on themselves.

Yeah they're fricked.

[Suidae Suis Scrofa]

Wow! The rebels really wanted Prospective Student-Athlete B (who enrolled at another institution), only to get rejected after all of the courting.

-phil

[ImHogginIt]

From what I have seen they are self imposing giving up 11 in next 4 years so it will be that or worse I guess.

11 each of the next 4 years ?

[ricepig]

They won a Sugar Bowl.

I don't think I'd go through all they are fixing to for a Sugar Bowl win......

[Wildhog]

11 each of the next 4 years ?

I assume he meant 11 total over the next four years.  11/year for four years is practically a death penalty.

[Wildhog]

I don't think I'd go through all they are fixing to for a Sugar Bowl win......

Depends on what they get.  A Sugar Bowl win would be the biggest Razorback football win of my life.

[Hawgphish]

They won a Sugar Bowl.

and back to back Jan. 1 bowl. 

[Potosihog]

Nafoom idiots are starting to pizz on themselves.

I went over there expecting full melt down. The mods must be deleting posts because the ones I saw were from guys saying it wasn't as bad as they thought it would be, nothing was found on Tunsil, and the admins were stupid for a self imposed "bowl band".
😂

[ImHogginIt]

I assume he meant 11 total over the next four years.  11/year for four years is practically a death penalty.

Punishment should fit the crime for Mr Super Christian coach

[robs4516]

The state of Mississippi produces enough talent to pull a top 10 class every so often. I Hate it for some friends of mine down there. Sure wish they would investigate Auburn and Bama as hard.

Aubie and bama are good enough at it to not get caught as easily.

[passinghog]

As I stated a long time ago when the allegations were first made and someone asked will Freeze survive. Coaches at the helm when a program is alleged to have committed these type of penalties don't survive. Freeze will resign prior to the year 2018.

[bythelake]

Wild hog,  for your image on this board don't go down that road. The black cloud associated with cheating is not even close to worth the sugar.

[12247]

Poor Ole Miss didn't understand that you cannot cheat if you are just a regular Joe type University.  Sort of like a regular Joe cheating the U S Government.  Get caught you are dead.  Yet, if you are wealthy, in politics or from a power family, you can get away with just about anything, no penalty.  Ole Miss will be the poster boy for what can happen if you get caught, UNLESS, OF COURSE, you are among the wealthy, powerful, etc.  Ole Miss is about to pay as an example.  Hugh Freeze is about to become untouchable as a coach while many who are as bad or worse will be going on, business as usual.

[factchecker]

Aubie and bama are good enough at it to not get caught as easily.

I agree.  I don't think any other program, besides Ole Miss, would pay a player prior to signing the LOI only for them to go elsewhere.

EDIT:

I remember another case of a player receiving payment but going elsewhere: