Will guns be allowed at Razorback games under the new law?

[sickboy]

Went to see the grandkids in Kilgore, TX a few months ago. We went to church with them and they had a armed "person" walking around the congregation the entire time with his pistol strapped firmly on his hip for everyone to see.  Never seen that in a church before. 

Was it this man?



My advice would be to stay away from the book of Ezekiel.

[DeltaBoy]

Nearly every state that has CCW states guns are not allowed at sporting events.  Only LEO and Feds can carry in those places.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Nearly every state that has CCW states guns are not allowed at sporting events.  Only LEO and Feds can carry in those places.

Why does HE get to carry at sporting events??   

[TexArkHogFan]

Good thing guns aren't allowed in the hands of a drunk.  Hogville wouldn't be safe.

[Cinco de Hogo]

Some of these yahoos would shoot our own coaches and players

I've already filed noches for a few Hogvillians! 😉

[twistitup]

I heard there will be a new spot in the north endzone to buy, sell or trade guns

[Cambridge Hog]

Easily the worst idea ever (involving football)

[Jackrabbit Hog]

Easily the worst idea ever (involving football)

Sorry, but hiring John L. Smith trumps guns as the worst idea ever.

[Grizzlyfan]

The administration of the University of Arkansas should determine when, where and if guns will allowed on the campus.  Not the yahoos in Little Rock. 

[Hoggish1]

What reason could anyone have for bringing a gun to a football game?

[pigture perfect]

Guns can now be carried legally at churches as long as it doesn't go against by-laws and the pastor and staff are aware of it. This coming from a minister.

[bennyl08]

The administration of the University of Arkansas should determine when, where and if guns will allowed on the campus.  Not the yahoos in Little Rock.

The yahoos from LR didn't really want it either, but rural outnumbers urban in Arkansas and thus it was passed.

[TechHawg]

The administration of the University of Arkansas should determine when, where and if guns will allowed on the campus.  Not the yahoos in Little Rock.

Unfortunately college admins are all a bunch of far lefties that don't acknowledge the constitution of the US. But to the OP's question, no, guns will not be allowed in Razorbacks stadium under the new law. It is still unlawful to carry at sporting events, and those with CCL's who want to carry on campus will have to take an active shooter course before being allowed to carry on campus.

[elviscat]

Just think a drunk with a gun, dangerous situation. The first person shot, should be the dump ass legislator who was responsible for passing this dump bill.

[TechHawg]

Again, the bill doesn't allow carrying in a sporting event.

[biglewhog77]

Hell naw

[Coondog Hog]

Bunch of wimps

[buldozer]

What reason could anyone have for bringing a gun to a football game?

I can think of a couple right off of the top of my head..... a bad guy such as a terrorist might want to attempt a mass shooting at a sporting event where 72,000 people are watching a football game, and a lawful citizen might want to protect themselves and others if something like that were to occur.

[Cubbie08]

Unfortunately college admins are all a bunch of far lefties that don't acknowledge the constitution of the US. But to the OP's question, no, guns will not be allowed in Razorbacks stadium under the new law. It is still unlawful to carry at sporting events, and those with CCL's who want to carry on campus will have to take an active shooter course before being allowed to carry on campus.

Did it pass? I thought it was still in committee after getting sent back.

[TechHawg]

I don't think its passed yet, but they did add the requirement to take an active shooter course.

[Cubbie08]

That's what I thought. Just trying to make sure I am up to date on it.

[twistitup]

It's throwing stars that worry me the most.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

It's throwing stars that worry me the most.

C'mon twist.  If you could carry into a game, you could take out the nutritionist when we started wilting in the fourth quarter.

[Oklahawg]

I have always wondered if the folks who remember the name of the officials who screwed the hogs in the 71 Liberty Bowl or in 82 vs SMU (or Florida a couple of times) wouldn't have taken a shot at them had a gun been handy.

[Jackrabbit Hog]

I have always wondered if the folks who remember the name of the officials who screwed the hogs in the 71 Liberty Bowl or in 82 vs SMU (or Florida a couple of times) wouldn't have taken a shot at them had a gun been handy.

Preston Watts?

Might as well have had a bullseye on his back...



(I'm kidding.  Please don't notify the authorities..)

[sw403]

I'm not waiting to be saved, I will carry and save my family and myself.  I do agree that alcohol and guns don't mix, but just because some people drink doesn't mean I should lose my rights to protect myself.

[razorbackcaller]

Guns can now be carried legally at churches as long as it doesn't go against by-laws and the pastor and staff are aware of it. This coming from a minister.

This is true. However church members can not provide security. In the state of Arkansas only licensed security guards can provide security.

[razorbackcaller]

I'm not waiting to be saved, I will carry and save my family and myself.  I do agree that alcohol and guns don't mix, but just because some people drink doesn't mean I should lose my rights to protect myself.

Couldn't have said it better

[Inhogswetrust]

List of places where guns belong:

- the woods

Also my home, my car, my property or anywhere else that it isn't restricted by law or the location I'm at and I feel like carrying. Your word "belong" is not the same for everyone.

[Inhogswetrust]

The yahoos from LR didn't really want it either, but rural outnumbers urban in Arkansas and thus it was passed.

LR yahoos aren't the same as the rest of central Arkansas....................

[oldfart]

Went to see the grandkids in Kilgore, TX a few months ago. We went to church with them and they had a armed "person" walking around the congregation the entire time with his pistol strapped firmly on his hip for everyone to see.  Never seen that in a church before. 

my son a policeman is hired by his church to wear his uniform and weapons during service. he is in a city where there has been a lot of violence so it is understandable

[oppybrit]

HB1249 has not passed yet and has had several amendments proposed .
Arkansas per Act 746 of 2013 is a constitution carry state. Statute 5-73-119 established the minimum age of carrying at 18 . You need to be 21 to get a conceal carry license .
The conceal carry program is unconstitutional and should be done way with.
Watch for a lawsuit after this legislative session to challenge conceal carry licensing.

[kodiakisland]

my son a policeman is hired by his church to wear his uniform and weapons during service. he is in a city where there has been a lot of violence so it is understandable

Used to go to a church that had two guys in suits and ear pieces with MP5s under their coat in the lobby and a car parked at the front door with another guy with an MP5.  They didn't bother me at all. Thankfully I never got to see them in action.

[HogimusMaximus]

As an Arkansan that is licensed to carry a concealed handgun, the answer is no. Under current law, guns are not allowed to be taken into sporting events, licensed or not.

Well this ends the discussion. 

[HogimusMaximus]

Used to go to a church that had two guys in suits and ear pieces with MP5s under their coat in the lobby and a car parked at the front door with another guy with an MP5.  They didn't bother me at all. Thankfully I never got to see them in action.

MP5s, were you in Israel.

[kodiakisland]

MP5s, were you in Israel.

Germany.  The EUCOM commander went there and always had security.  The church was in downtown Kaiserslautern and I guess he was a target off base.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

This thread is going to turn political real fast but here is the best I can give you.

From what I understand the stadium has it's own set of rules. For example, I can walk around with an open bottle of water and a snack throughout campus.  Try and bring your own food or drink into the stadium..... not going to happen.

I think the goal of House Bill 1249 is to allow students and faculty the right to concealed carry.  I'm not sure if the bill is to be extended for drunk tailgaters.

Quick question for those who might know:  Is there a penalty for firing a gun under the influence?

There is a law that coincides with EVERY common sense issue that can possibly arise where firearms usage is concerned. To name a few, No felons may own or carry, If you fire a weapon for any reason (accidental or with intent) other than self defense, hunting or target practice, and/or brandishing a weapon as a threat etc... Believe me, we do not need any more laws restricting gun use because every possible scenario has been covered for ages.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

HB1249 has not passed yet and has had several amendments proposed .
Arkansas per Act 746 of 2013 is a constitution carry state. Statute 5-73-119 established the minimum age of carrying at 18 . You need to be 21 to get a conceal carry license .
The conceal carry program is unconstitutional and should be done way with.
Watch for a lawsuit after this legislative session to challenge conceal carry licensing.

Mississippi is unrestricted carry unless posted at place of business, but with the licensed carry you can go anywhere. The written test is enormous and will make you a very educated gun owner.

[Inhogswetrust]

Mississippi is unrestricted carry unless posted at place of business, but with the licensed carry you can go anywhere. The written test is enormous and will make you a very educated gun owner.

Mississippi and a written test? That's funny!

[Hawgndaaz]

How about just carry a cow tazer to stab fatties that take up half my seat?

[PORKULATOR]

It's throwing stars that worry me the most.

It's the conservative, 30 round magazine loving, trigger-happy looney holding the gun that worries me the most.

[PonderinHog]

It's the conservative, 30 round magazine loving, trigger-happy looney holding the gun that worries me the most.

It's when the shots are fired and anyone with a gun can easily be mistaken for a terrorist that concerns me.

[Inhogswetrust]

It's the conservative, 30 round magazine loving, trigger-happy looney holding the gun that worries me the most.

Except most conservatives are no more trigger happy than anyone else. They just want the option of protecting themselves knowing that sometimes they are not protected adequately by the system.

[bennyl08]

Except most conservatives are no more trigger happy than anyone else. They just want the option of protecting themselves knowing that sometimes they are not protected adequately by the system.

You are absolutely correct, but perhaps more so than you meant. Keywords here are most and sometimes. Most people the majority of the time are more than adequately protected by the system. It is only in rare occasions one would need to protect themselves. Similarly, most gun owners are very responsible. I know Texas at least keeps very detailed numbers on their CCL people and what crimes they commit. Crimes happen at a much lower rate than the general population and even then, many of them aren't gun related in the first place. However, the data also shows that a few do use their guns in criminal manners. A common such crime is the heat of the moment where the carrier gets frustrated, gets in an argument and while 99.9% of the time would never do something stupid, lost their cool for a split second.

So, if you are a business/university/public space, etc... you have to ask yourself one question. Did I fire 5 shots or 6... Which unlikely thing is more of a threat to your place? One person killing 10 people before they get stopped in a planned and super rare event, or 10 people each shooting one person in a spontaneous incident in a very rare, but orders of magnitude more common than the mass shooting event?

[Inhogswetrust]

You are absolutely correct, but perhaps more so than you meant. Keywords here are most and sometimes. Most people the majority of the time are more than adequately protected by the system. It is only in rare occasions one would need to protect themselves. Similarly, most gun owners are very responsible. I know Texas at least keeps very detailed numbers on their CCL people and what crimes they commit. Crimes happen at a much lower rate than the general population and even then, many of them aren't gun related in the first place. However, the data also shows that a few do use their guns in criminal manners. A common such crime is the heat of the moment where the carrier gets frustrated, gets in an argument and while 99.9% of the time would never do something stupid, lost their cool for a split second.

So, if you are a business/university/public space, etc... you have to ask yourself one question. Did I fire 5 shots or 6... Which unlikely thing is more of a threat to your place? One person killing 10 people before they get stopped in a planned and super rare event, or 10 people each shooting one person in a spontaneous incident in a very rare, but orders of magnitude more common than the mass shooting event?

As a CCP holder I completely agree. The responsible and sane gun owner and carrier knows when is the right place and time to carry. I don't carry often and would never carry into a large public arena, stadium, festival, etc. I also would never carry openly.
Sometimes life is simply no more than common sense.

[Ray Zorback_1*]

Just a touch of relevant info.  If your afraid of your local CCW holders....  You shouldn't be.

http://crimeresearch.org/2015/02/comparing-conviction-rates-between-police-and-concealed-carry-permit-holders/

[Ray Zorback_1*]

HB1249 has not passed yet and has had several amendments proposed .
Arkansas per Act 746 of 2013 is a constitution carry state. Statute 5-73-119 established the minimum age of carrying at 18 . You need to be 21 to get a conceal carry license .
The conceal carry program is unconstitutional and should be done way with.
Watch for a lawsuit after this legislative session to challenge conceal carry licensing.

This ^^^

[devildoghawg]

You cannot carry firearms anywhere alcohol is served.

Not true, whatsoever.  You cannot carry guns into a bar, but you can carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol. 

[Tarheelhawg]

I am not as worried about citizen  with a concealed weapon in a stadium as I am about a drone with a bomb.  It may safer to watch at home with the 40 plus inch tv.   Anyway, WPS!

[Boardon Hamsay]

If by some chance this we're to ever be allowed, I'm taking the over on the number of ignernt asses that would reach for their piece each time the stadium fireworks went off.