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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #200 on: February 21, 2017, 02:29:18 pm »

Win 7 games. Don't expect much from this uncommon program.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #201 on: February 21, 2017, 03:42:31 pm »

Win 7 games. Don't expect much from this uncommon program.
3 straight post seasons in 4 years . first year shouldn't count . much better than your coach anderson
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #202 on: February 21, 2017, 04:30:56 pm »

He is not on the hot seat if he is building an 8 - 10 win season program which seems worth waiting for : stability for a change.  Look at Steve Spurrier's record at South Carolina in his 5 th year; it would have been a bad idea to fire him.  Bielema is respected by ESPN and well liked by parents of recruits.  Patience is a virture for a reason.  Rome was not built in a day.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #203 on: February 25, 2017, 08:03:39 am »

Stability is the backbone of a good program, Bielema needs to win a few more games and show improvement, an I hope he does for the sake of the program. It takes time to build a recruiting base, an players win games, but Bielema needs to improve as a coach on the field as well, some coaching calls have resulted in losses that could have been avoided no doubt. I do think Bielema has learned from SEC coaching and can build a top SEC program, but timing is everthing and time to show improvement is now.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #204 on: February 25, 2017, 08:47:07 am »

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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #205 on: February 25, 2017, 08:51:40 am »



I agree, he should have given him a red hat to put on.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #206 on: February 25, 2017, 09:04:03 am »

I agree, he should have given him a red hat to put on.

Ha! You mean like mine?
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #207 on: February 28, 2017, 11:06:21 pm »

I don't think he will be let go but I think it's do or die in the sense that we will lose a lot of experience after this season. This will be his best shot to turn the corner here.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #208 on: February 28, 2017, 11:53:40 pm »

Fire Bret now.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #209 on: March 01, 2017, 11:13:44 am »

Fire Bret now.

GO AWAY! 

He is not going anywhere as long as Jeff Long is here.  Accept that FACT and Move On Please.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #210 on: March 01, 2017, 04:32:35 pm »

That fateful motorcycle trip a few years back seems to have effectively "wrecked" the program.   I think there are good kids on the team but I'm not convinced that the scheme will work for us in the SEC.   Leaving or staying will be entirely up to CBB since the contract is so slanted in his favor.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #211 on: March 01, 2017, 05:36:10 pm »

Fire Bret now.
The fat you mention in your avatar has gone to your head. Brain cells have been crowded out by all the cholesterol carbs.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #212 on: March 01, 2017, 05:42:48 pm »

This year can only put him on the hot seat for next year. In order for that to happen he would pretty much have to duplicate 2013. I don't see us going 3-9 with 0 wins in conference again. 
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #213 on: March 01, 2017, 09:55:41 pm »

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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #214 on: March 02, 2017, 08:45:12 am »

Not for me. I never wanted the bozo hired to start with.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2017, 09:05:24 am »

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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #216 on: March 03, 2017, 10:05:21 am »

No, it's not.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #217 on: March 03, 2017, 12:29:11 pm »

After last season, especially those last 2 epic collapses he has already lost some of the fan base. Have another year of squandering leads, failing to make halftime adjustments and terrible defense even his biggest supporters will have to accept it is time to move on. Hopefully he succeeds but I personally have my doubts.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #218 on: March 03, 2017, 12:39:50 pm »

After last season, especially those last 2 epic collapses he has already lost some of the fan base. Have another year of squandering leads, failing to make halftime adjustments and terrible defense even his biggest supporters will have to accept it is time to move on. Hopefully he succeeds but I personally have my doubts.

Folks on here say that this line of thinking is only seen on Hogville...that the general population thinks he's doing fine. Well I personally don't know anyone who thinks he's doing "fine".
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #219 on: March 03, 2017, 12:42:15 pm »

Folks on here say that this line of thinking is only seen on Hogville...that the general population thinks he's doing fine. Well I personally don't know anyone who thinks he's doing "fine".

That's because you don't know anyone outside of Hogville.....
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #220 on: March 03, 2017, 12:48:52 pm »

Folks on here say that this line of thinking is only seen on Hogville...that the general population thinks he's doing fine. Well I personally don't know anyone who thinks he's doing "fine".

"Fine" is a horribly misused word. It means superb or exceptional, but is often used in vernacular as "not terrible, but not amazing".

If someone is saying that Bielema is getting superb or exceptional results. They're insane.

If someone is saying that Bielema is doing a not terrible by not amazing job... then they'd be 100% accurate, in my opinion. His results have been the definition of "fine" in the vernacular sense. And I would guess that quite a few people think Bielema is doing an average job.

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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #221 on: March 03, 2017, 01:06:34 pm »

That's because you don't know anyone outside of Hogville.....

I damn sure do...I know lots of people! It's not like I said 'friends', or that any of them actually like me.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #222 on: March 03, 2017, 01:14:56 pm »

I damn sure do...I know lots of people! It's not like I said 'friends', or that any of them actually like me.

True, I apologize my friend...
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #223 on: March 03, 2017, 01:27:09 pm »

True, I apologize my friend...

It's okay. No one here in Florida likes me either.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #224 on: March 03, 2017, 01:28:01 pm »

Drip, drip, drip......
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #225 on: March 03, 2017, 02:03:49 pm »

Math isn't a strong suit for you, is it? His contract is thru 2020, he's owed $17.4M if you keep him on staff until the contract expires. You can buy him out today for $15.4M, quit over thinking it.
And how much do we pay top assistant coaches?
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #226 on: March 03, 2017, 02:20:30 pm »

And how much do we pay top assistant coaches?

We don't pay top assistant coaches.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #227 on: March 03, 2017, 05:30:30 pm »

"Fine" is a horribly misused word. It means superb or exceptional, but is often used in vernacular as "not terrible, but not amazing".

If someone is saying that Bielema is getting superb or exceptional results. They're insane.

If someone is saying that Bielema is doing a not terrible by not amazing job... then they'd be 100% accurate, in my opinion. His results have been the definition of "fine" in the vernacular sense. And I would guess that quite a few people think Bielema is doing an average job.

How is 25-26 / 10-22 not terrible?
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #228 on: March 03, 2017, 05:57:47 pm »

How is 25-26 / 10-22 not terrible?

Sssssmmmmaaack!

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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #229 on: March 04, 2017, 03:03:18 am »

Sssssmmmmaaack!

("ouch")

Lol I see you guys are still using that first season to prop up your runny noses and watery eyes.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #230 on: March 04, 2017, 03:28:45 am »

Warm seat = unhappy AD and major boosters (the one paying his buyout)

He has more than 2 years left. That's just the amount of time til the buyout is in single digets.

2 years till his golden parachute runs out you mean
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #231 on: March 04, 2017, 04:02:33 am »

Lol I see you guys are still using that first season to prop up your runny noses and watery eyes.

Spring already in FL....it's just allergies.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #232 on: March 04, 2017, 04:34:42 am »

So has the battle cry, "Not My Coach", started yet?

When you build something that has stability it takes awhile to get it just right. But, when it's complete it last. Some people need to have some patience and enjoy the architecture as it's being built.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #233 on: March 04, 2017, 07:55:15 am »

So has the battle cry, "Not My Coach", started yet?

When you build something that has stability it takes awhile to get it just right. But, when it's complete it last. Some people need to have some patience and enjoy the architecture as it's being built.
Nah, they want an outhouse with a gold commode.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #234 on: March 04, 2017, 08:48:40 am »

2 years till his golden parachute runs out you mean

So, $7.9M is peanuts, who knew??
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #235 on: March 04, 2017, 09:20:28 am »

sigh.....
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #236 on: March 04, 2017, 11:08:46 am »

Not for me. I never wanted the bozo hired to start with.
Well then I suppose that makes things even then-we never wanted to see you as a poster to start with. ;) :D :P
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #237 on: March 04, 2017, 11:17:20 am »

How is 25-26 / 10-22 not terrible?

How can you be so critical of one coach and not the other? Who were you before you were banned in 2014?

This year is really the first I've been critical of MA's coaching. Much of it has been acting on impulse alone from watching a few of our games, but as I look at the broader picture and the college basketball landscape as a whole, the more I appreciate where we are right now.

It's so easy to think, that Long could simply hire a guy who'll come in, recruit well and get the ball rolling immediately. Which is highly plausible, but very risky. It's been over 20 years since we've been legitimate contenders in college basketball and 3 coaches later and we're just now reaching heights we haven't seen in 18 years. Maybe we should ride this one out and see where it leads us. I think MA has the potential to be a Razorback lifer and if time is all that is required to get us back to prominence than I'm willing to wait a couple more years.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #238 on: March 04, 2017, 11:20:16 am »

We don't pay top assistant coaches.

Sorry, couldn't resist.
That may have been said it is jest but unfortunately there is some truth in it.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #239 on: March 04, 2017, 11:24:22 am »

So has the battle cry, "Not My Coach", started yet?

When you build something that has stability it takes awhile to get it just right. But, when it's complete it last. Some people need to have some patience and enjoy the architecture as it's being built.

Im pro CBB, but you do have to admit that the build process can be painful at times which is hard on those with little to no patience. All you can do is endure it and mock the preachers of doom. I relate it to maturity personally. There are those that can't see progress, those that refuse to see progress, and those that see it.

It is like buying/selling stock. This board is littered with people that would panic sell every time there is a dip. Those that expect a 15% return within the first 30 days and will sell if it doesn't happen. I'm more of a watch the financials and hang in there type fan. I do know if I sell now, I would just be repeating the process with a new stock and so far this stock still shows promise and there is nothing to indicate that it is a sell.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #240 on: March 04, 2017, 01:25:53 pm »

Im pro CBB, but you do have to admit that the build process can be painful at times which is hard on those with little to no patience. All you can do is endure it and mock the preachers of doom. I relate it to maturity personally. There are those that can't see progress, those that refuse to see progress, and those that see it.

It is like buying/selling stock. This board is littered with people that would panic sell every time there is a dip. Those that expect a 15% return within the first 30 days and will sell if it doesn't happen. I'm more of a watch the financials and hang in there type fan. I do know if I sell now, I would just be repeating the process with a new stock and so far this stock still shows promise and there is nothing to indicate that it is a sell.

Good analogy. Hogville is overrun with day traders that want to use everyone else's capital.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #241 on: March 04, 2017, 04:19:21 pm »

Ha! You mean like mine?
Im pro CBB, but you do have to admit that the build process can be painful at times which is hard on those with little to no patience. All you can do is endure it and mock the preachers of doom. I relate it to maturity personally. There are those that can't see progress, those that refuse to see progress, and those that see it.

It is like buying/selling stock. This board is littered with people that would panic sell every time there is a dip. Those that expect a 15% return within the first 30 days and will sell if it doesn't happen. I'm more of a watch the financials and hang in there type fan. I do know if I sell now, I would just be repeating the process with a new stock and so far this stock still shows promise and there is nothing to indicate that it is a sell.

 Just because someone's own lack of character prevents them from communicating or getting along well with others, it should not dictate how the world around them works. Eff those people, and that's that.!
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #242 on: March 04, 2017, 05:36:50 pm »

Just because someone's own lack of character prevents them from communicating or getting along well with others, it should not dictate how the world around them works. Eff those people, and that's that.!

Nobody witch hunting the football team on hogville over their hate of CBB is impacting our football program in any way. I know they think they are, and talk like they are, but they aren't.
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Re: Is this Bielema's Do or Die Season?
« Reply #243 on: March 04, 2017, 06:12:16 pm »

Nobody witch hunting the football team on hogville over their hate of CBB is impacting our football program in any way. I know they think they are, and talk like they are, but they aren't.

You are correct.

The one's who complain the loudest have the least invested.

Those with the power don't go to message boards to vent.
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