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  • #1 by Sweet Feet on 08 Feb 2017
  • As dynamic as matt jones was, having DMAC, Felix, and Hillis in the backfield, and a decent set of WRs, would Arkansas possibly make it to the National Title game?
  • #2 by The_Iceman on 08 Feb 2017
  • No, not with Matt Jones. With Ryan Mallett, yes.
  • #3 by King Kong on 08 Feb 2017
  • Matt was TO prone
  • #4 by Razorbackers on 08 Feb 2017
  • As much fun as MJ was in his time at QB, he should have been a WR the entire time.
  • #5 by Smokehouse on 08 Feb 2017
  • As much fun as MJ was in his time at QB, he should have been a WR the entire time.

    Yes - can I have MJ at WR and Mallett or Tyler Wilson at QB in '06? I'll take that.
  • #6 by Arthur pigby sellers. on 08 Feb 2017
  • Surely we would have beaten them. Lack of a QB held us back for Nutts entire tenure. That's just too many playmakers not to win those games.
  • #7 by hawganatic on 08 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...
  • #8 by hawgdavis on 08 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...


    That might do it
  • #9 by onebadrubi on 08 Feb 2017
  • Is pre shoulder injury matt jones or post?
  • #10 by bennyl08 on 08 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...

    Freshman Tejada, or junior Tejada?

    Freshman Tejada was on point. Something changed for him after that season though.
  • #11 by HiggiePiggy on 08 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...

    As long as we didn't have to rely on field goals I am for this!!!!
  • #12 by HardingHog on 08 Feb 2017
  • Surely we would have beaten them. Lack of a QB held us back for Nutts entire tenure. That's just too many playmakers not to win those games.

    But Matt Jones was a QB during Nutt's tenure...  ???
  • #13 by bvillepig on 08 Feb 2017
  • If Mr Nutt would have left things alone we would have won it anyway.
  • #14 by Hoggish1 on 08 Feb 2017
  • As dynamic as matt jones was, having DMAC, Felix, and Hillis in the backfield, and a decent set of WRs, would Arkansas possibly make it to the National Title game?

    Yes.  Or, better question:

    What would Oklahoma have done with Matt Jones?  Probably two national championships and at least one Heisman trophy...
  • #15 by jneal56 on 08 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...


    Tejada??? Really?? How bout Steve Little or Zack(h) Hocker?
  • #16 by CrookedSquealliry on 08 Feb 2017
  • It's possible. 
  • #17 by TebowHater on 08 Feb 2017
  • Shoot, if someone just catches a punt we beat Florida in 06...so MJ? Definitely. Imagine trying to stop that option.
  • #18 by thebignasty on 08 Feb 2017
  • Freshman Tejada, or junior Tejada?

    Freshman Tejada was on point. Something changed for him after that season though.

    iirc he dislocated a kneecap playing soccer in the offseason.  His confidence clearly never came back.
  • #19 by Sed76 on 08 Feb 2017
  • If anyone other than Casey Dick was taking the snaps against LSU we win going away. He was terrible that day. If only Nutt would have swallowed his pride and let Mustain play.
  • #20 by hawganatic on 09 Feb 2017
  • If anyone other than Casey Dick was taking the snaps against LSU we win going away. He was terrible that day. If only Nutt would have swallowed his pride and let Mustain play.

    Mustain's last couple of games he didn't play much better than Dick did in the LSU game.  Think he had 3 interceptions against Louisiana Monroe, or some other small school in that area, and then came out throwing interceptions against South Carolina.

    It's hard to say what would have happened if he had put Mustain in against LSU.  Dick definitely wasn't playing good, but also didn't make any bad mistakes that would have given LSU the game.  Our offense was clicking in the 4th quarter with 2 touchdowns and we outgained the LSU offense by 32 yards for the game.

    The bigger issue wasn't who played QB in that game.  The bigger issue was creating a situation where we could question who should have been playing.
  • #21 by TrueBlue on 09 Feb 2017
  • Yes.  Or, better question:

    What would Oklahoma have done with Matt Jones?  Probably two national championships and at least one Heisman trophy...


    Geeeeez. Wrong again cowboy. Unless he was a WR or TE, he wouldn't have seen the field.
  • #22 by hawganatic on 09 Feb 2017

  • Geeeeez. Wrong again cowboy. Unless he was a WR or TE, he wouldn't have seen the field.

    Oklahoma wasn't even recruiting him as a QB.  He committed to them as a WR.  The only reason he flipped to AR is because Nutt promised him a shot at QB. 

    Even if they had given him a shot at QB, I seriously doubt he would have beat out Jason White for the job...
  • #23 by lumphog on 09 Feb 2017
  • Yall are NUTTS...Hail yea
  • #24 by Cinco de Hogo on 09 Feb 2017
  • How about we just keep the same team and put Bob at coach?
  • #25 by jneal56 on 09 Feb 2017
  • Mustain's last couple of games he didn't play much better than Dick did in the LSU game.  Think he had 3 interceptions against Louisiana Monroe, or some other small school in that area, and then came out throwing interceptions against South Carolina.

    It's hard to say what would have happened if he had put Mustain in against LSU.  Dick definitely wasn't playing good, but also didn't make any bad mistakes that would have given LSU the game.  Our offense was clicking in the 4th quarter with 2 touchdowns and we outgained the LSU offense by 32 yards for the game.

    The bigger issue wasn't who played QB in that game.  The bigger issue was creating a situation where we could question who should have been playing.

    Yes thank you for speaking the truth. It amazes me to this day how people still believe MM was the reason why we did so well that season. Those three RB's we had and the O-Line were the work horses. McFadden was dinged up going into LSU and then got slowed a bit more with Cowboy-collar tackle if memory serves me correctly. MM was a good solid QB for that system but no more or less than CD was. It can easily be argued that DMac was our best QB on the roster that year.
  • #26 by hawganatic on 09 Feb 2017
  • McFadden was dinged up going into LSU and then got slowed a bit more with Cowboy-collar tackle if memory serves me correctly.

    The cowboy-collar was against Wisconsin in the bowl game.  Only way the defender could have caught him on that run.

    McFadden had close to 200 yards against LSU including this play, so not sure how dinged up he was...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOefOOWtis
  • #27 by Hoggish1 on 09 Feb 2017

  • Geeeeez. Wrong again cowboy. Unless he was a WR or TE, he wouldn't have seen the field.

    You obviously don't watch a lot of football.
  • #28 by Hog Fan...DOH! on 09 Feb 2017
  • You know why my Matt Jones was loved?  Because he played freaking QB at Arkansas.  The idea that he SHOULD have played WR is just asinine. 

    The guy had his faults.  But for crying out loud...
  • #29 by hawganatic on 09 Feb 2017
  • You obviously don't watch a lot of football.

    So you think Jones would have beat out Jason White, a Heisman winner and runner up a second year?
  • #30 by jgphillips3 on 09 Feb 2017
  • Considering how much of the success of that team was the introduction and evolution of the wildcat, I'm not sure how much more MJ could have added but he was yet another freak athlete so it couldn't have hurt.  Like someone else said, if we would have had an experienced Ryan Mallett, we could easily have beaten Florida and LSU.
  • #31 by Biggus Piggus on 09 Feb 2017
  • As dynamic as matt jones was, having DMAC, Felix, and Hillis in the backfield, and a decent set of WRs, would Arkansas possibly make it to the National Title game?

    Conceivable.
  • #32 by HiggiePiggy on 09 Feb 2017
  • I believe Nutt had about 2 mins or so and down a TD instead of running it with our backs I remember him tossing the ball 4 times and turned it over on downs.

    This was our last drive.  2 mins left in the game with the 3 rbs we had already going for 298 yards rushing in the game.  This is what we did on our LAST DRIVE.

    1st and 10 at ARK 27
    (1:52 - 4th) Casey Dick pass incomplete to Darren McFadden.
    2nd and 10 at ARK 27
    (1:46 - 4th) Casey Dick pass incomplete to Marcus Monk, broken up by Jonathan Zenon.
    3rd and 10 at ARK 27
    (1:37 - 4th) Casey Dick pass incomplete to Marcus Monk, broken up by Laron Landry.
    4th and 10 at ARK 27
    (1:31 - 4th) Casey Dick pass incomplete to Chris Houston.


    So all I can say about this is that Houston Nutt was a damn idiot. 

    http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=263280008
  • #33 by ARKANSAS@HOGS on 09 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...






    I would have put in All-American Kicker: Kendall Trainor   :razorback:
  • #34 by jneal56 on 09 Feb 2017
  • The cowboy-collar was against Wisconsin in the bowl game.  Only way the defender could have caught him on that run.

    McFadden had close to 200 yards against LSU including this play, so not sure how dinged up he was...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOefOOWtis

    I recall the one against Wisconsin too but I remember he was bothered by an injury going into the LSU game. He wasn't 100% nor was he 100% in the SECCG vs Florida. I remember that we were all hoping he would be fully recovered by the bowl game and he was looking as if he were until that Cowboy-collar tackle vs Wisconsin.

    There was a similar one against LSU that really hampered him.
  • #35 by Hoggish1 on 09 Feb 2017
  • So you think Jones would have beat out Jason White, a Heisman winner and runner up a second year?

    Yes I do.

    OK has since gone to a spread offense with a running QB.  Jones might has hastened that move.  Regardless, imagine MJ on the edge with White throwing to him..,

    Either way, MJ was a difference maker and regardless of where he played would have been more disciplined and a much better player wherever had he gone to OK.

    MJ ran Nuts, to the players detriment.

    With discipline we might still be seeing MJ in the NFL...
  • #36 by cosmodrum on 10 Feb 2017
  • What if we put Shawn Andrews, Darren McFadden, Brandon Burlesworth, Ryan Mallett, Steve Atwater, Jason Peters, Marcus Monk, Trey Flowers, Lance Alworth, Felix Jones, Peyton Hillis, James Rouse, Quinn Grovey, Jamaal Anderson, Sebastian Tretola, Hunter Henry, Ahmad Carroll, Ken Hamlin, Henry Ford, Barry Foster, Billy Ray Smith, Dan Hampton, Bruce James, and Joe Ferguson all on the same team...Would we be able to stay within ten points of Alabama???

    Oh, and Alex Tejada...

    You're a Vin Ascolese short
  • #37 by hogsanity on 10 Feb 2017
  • This just points out 30 years of frustration that the Hogs NEVER HAVE ALL THE PIECES AT ONCE.
  • #38 by Razorback_Mack on 10 Feb 2017
  • As much fun as MJ was in his time at QB, he should have been a WR the entire time.
    No way, no how. Anybody on the roster besides Matt taking the snaps and we would've been terrible. Matts athletic ability alone saved Nutt for many years. Nutt and staff couldn't coach qb's. To put a pocket passer back there with less athleticism would have been beyond dumb. Nutt tried it several times and it never worked.
  • #39 by greasy_corner on 10 Feb 2017
  • Yes. 

    And if MJ was the QB of the (F)aggies during '12 and '13 we'd have beaten them too!
  • #40 by LZH on 10 Feb 2017
  • I recall the one against Wisconsin too but I remember he was bothered by an injury going into the LSU game. He wasn't 100% nor was he 100% in the SECCG vs Florida. I remember that we were all hoping he would be fully recovered by the bowl game and he was looking as if he were until that Cowboy-collar tackle vs Wisconsin.

    There was a similar one against LSU that really hampered him.

    He was horse-collared earlier that year which started the injury problem. I can't remember who we were playing, but I can still see it happening down the right sideline and thinking "he's going to get hurt like that someday."
  • #41 by Tejano Jawg on 10 Feb 2017
  • If anyone other than Casey Dick was taking the snaps against LSU we win going away. He was terrible that day. If only Nutt would have swallowed his pride and let Mustain play.

    Maybe. Maybe not. CD was remembered as not finishing the game well…but most people don't remember we started out hot. We scored on our first possession. On our second, Dick hit Damian Williams perfectly, but DW dropped it. Would have been a 40 yard gain…and we get some points out of the drive. Our mo' at that point would have been huuuge.

    This was also the game where LSU returned the kickoff 90+ yards immediately after DMac's 80 yard TD run. That was the ender for us. We had more problems that day than just Casey Dick. In this game, I'd rather have improved one of our positions on defense over quarterback.
  • #42 by OS2 (SW) Razor Back on 11 Feb 2017
  • It's 2017. Let it go.
  • #43 by LZH on 11 Feb 2017
  • Maybe. Maybe not. CD was remembered as not finishing the game well…but most people don't remember we started out hot. We scored on our first possession. On our second, Dick hit Damian Williams perfectly, but DW dropped it. Would have been a 40 yard gain…and we get some points out of the drive. Our mo' at that point would have been huuuge.

    This was also the game where LSU returned the kickoff 90+ yards immediately after DMac's 80 yard TD run. That was the ender for us. We had more problems that day than just Casey Dick. In this game, I'd rather have improved one of our positions on defense over quarterback.

    Trindon Holliday. That name will haunt me evermore....
  • #44 by HiggiePiggy on 11 Feb 2017
  • Casey Dick was 3 for 17 that game for 29 yards 1 TD and 1 int.   McFadden actually tossed more yards that game than dick did. McFadden was 2 for 2 for 33 yards.

     Nutt being stupid on the drive where we had 1.52 mins to play and he threw the ball 4 times in a row to turn it over on downs.  Dick was crap that game and McFadden and Jones both had 182 yards 2 TDs(McFadden) and 137 yards 1 TD (Jones). Nutt being Nutt cost us that game. Had he stayed out of the way and let Gus run the offense we probably would have won that game.
  • #45 by EastexHawg on 12 Feb 2017
  • For someone who should have supposedly never played QB isn't it hard to explain how Matt produced more yards and TDs than any player in our 121 year history of playing football?

    The problem wasn't that Matt wasn't a QB.  The problem was that he had a moron "coaching" him.  A nitwit who thought it was a good idea to have him split time with Zak Clark, TJack (who "pro" or not couldn't hit his butt with both hands at Arkansas), and Ryan Freaking Sorahan...

    Design an offense that maximized Matt's abilities?  Nutt?  LMAO. 
  • #46 by Athog on 12 Feb 2017
  • As dynamic as matt jones was, having DMAC, Felix, and Hillis in the backfield, and a decent set of WRs, would Arkansas possibly make it to the National Title game?

    Definitely not!! Maybe with Ryan Mallett.
  • #47 by Supermark101 on 14 Feb 2017
  • For someone who should have supposedly never played QB isn't it hard to explain how Matt produced more yards and TDs than any player in our 121 year history of playing football?


    ???

    Clint and Mallet say hi.
  • #48 by shown006 on 14 Feb 2017
  • D-Mc WAS Matt Jones running the "WildHog".  Matt's Senior year, didn't even make a bowl.  The sad thing is D-Mc and Matt won 1 whole postseason game between them, the '03 Independence Bowl against Mizzou.  D-Mc, Felix, Hillis all went post-season winless.
  • #49 by hawganatic on 15 Feb 2017
  • For someone who should have supposedly never played QB isn't it hard to explain how Matt produced more yards and TDs than any player in our 121 year history of playing football?


    You keep touting this but Jones is also one of the few players who played as a true freshman and stayed for four years. 

    Jones = 46 games - 8,392 total yards

    Ryan Mallett = 26 games - 7,390 total yards.  With 20 more games played Jones only had 1,002 yards more of total offense than Mallett.
    Tyler Wilson = 37 games - 7,721 total yards.  With 9 more games Jones only had 671 yards more in total offense that Wilson.

    For single season records Jones doesn't rank higher that 7th in any category, and doesn't make it in the top ten for any single game records.  If you want to talk about his running skills, McFadden blows him out of the water in every category, in less games played.  If you want to talk about his passing skill, there are several people that blow him out of the water in every category, in less games played.

    I think we can all agree Nutt was an idiot, but at the same time, if we had a competent coach that knew how to design an offense and develop a quarterback, Tavaris Jackson probably would have been our starter.  Nutt's inability to put a cohesive offense together is probably the main reason Jones played QB.

    Not saying any of this to run Jones down.  Very fun and exciting to watch play and had a great four years here, and definitely one of the all time greats.  Just tired of seeing this line of thought that he was the best ever based off of skewed statistics, and that he would have been the greatest to ever play the game if it weren't for coaching.


  • #50 by Tejano Jawg on 15 Feb 2017
  • The problem wasn't that Matt wasn't a QB.  The problem was that he had a moron "coaching" him.  A nitwit who thought it was a good idea to have him split time with Zak Clark, TJack (who "pro" or not couldn't hit his butt with both hands at Arkansas), and Ryan Freaking Sorahan...

    Anytime one of those other guys started a game, I always thought of them as merely the 'warmup' act. They'd be in a couple series, leave the stage, then the main guy would come in. The only good thing about it—it kinda built up anticipation.

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