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TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« on: April 15, 2014, 12:29:34 pm »

Only one site is reporting this right now, HOWEVER, both Mark Ennis and Wes Rucker have all but confirmed that this is a done deal.

http://collegespun.com/sec/tennessee-sec/report-cuonzo-martin-leaving-tennessee-for-california
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Cuonzo to Cal
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2014, 12:30:11 pm »

Who's up next for the Vols?  Shaka?  Marshall?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2014, 12:31:10 pm »

This makes me laugh!
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2014, 12:32:02 pm »

I'd be on the phone to Greg Marshall, NOW!!
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal
« Reply #5 on: April 15, 2014, 12:33:08 pm »

Wes Rucker ‏@wesrucker247 ∑8m
Good luck spinning this, Tennessee. Itís not a good look.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2014, 12:33:24 pm »

Martin, IMO, was a mediocre coach. What we saw this season was likely the best he's teams would do. With Bruce Pearl going to Auburn, Tennessee is going to feel the pressure to make a big splash here. Gregg Marshall finally ready for a major-conference gig?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2014, 12:34:18 pm »

I'd be on the phone to Greg Marshall, NOW!!

He turned their job down before they hired Counzo, why would he take it now?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 15, 2014, 12:39:00 pm »

He turned their job down before they hired Counzo, why would he take it now?

Maybe he's ready. Things change. They were just coming off the whole Bruce Pearl debacle then. They're coming off a Sweet 16 now.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #9 on: April 15, 2014, 12:39:16 pm »

Jimmy Hyams ‏@JimmyHyams ∑13 mins
We've confirmed Cuonzo Martin has taken Cal job. After apparent agreement reached, I'm told terms and buyout issues with agent blocked deal
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 15, 2014, 12:39:49 pm »

Maybe he's ready. Things change. They were just coming off the whole Bruce Pearl debacle then. They're coming off a Sweet 16 now.

And Wichita St. is a better program now than Tennessee has ever been.

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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #11 on: April 15, 2014, 12:39:55 pm »

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Tennessee sends out release saying Dave Hart will meet with the media at 2:30 p.m. No subject addressed.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #12 on: April 15, 2014, 12:41:53 pm »

Ben Frederickson ‏@Ben_Fred ∑1 min
Confirmed with UT player that #Vols were informed of Cuonzo Martin's departure to Cal in a team meeting at 12:30. Martin was not present.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2014, 12:42:42 pm »

And Wichita St. is a better program now than Tennessee has ever been.

Because Marshall took them to ONE Final Four?

They were better under Pearl than Wichita State is right now under Marshall. Maybe that changes over time (if Marshall stays), but they have only 3 tournament appearances under Marshall and only one run of note.

Bit premature on your part, I'd say.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2014, 12:43:13 pm »

Retweeted by Cal Men's Basketball
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2014, 12:43:14 pm »

I am kind of sad about this. I don't feel he was recruiting all that great at UT, and his team actually had a ton of talent this season and was expected to make the NCAAT comfortably. I know they made it to the Sweet 16, but they also had a somewhat easy path there. I feel like he is relatively unproven. UT has a chance to be a pretty good basketball program. It is going to be tough to make a big hire right now, though. Like with every coaching change, there will be a player or two transfer. Throw in Maymon, Stokes, McRae, and Barton being gone, and it does not look like they will be competitive for a few seasons. I expected them to be bottom half of the conference next year with Martin, but if they lose another player or two due to the coaching change they may end up being playing the first day of the SECT.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2014, 12:44:26 pm »

I am kind of sad about this. I don't feel he was recruiting all that great at UT, and his team actually had a ton of talent this season and was expected to make the NCAAT comfortably. I know they made it to the Sweet 16, but they also had a somewhat easy path there. I feel like he is relatively unproven. UT has a chance to be a pretty good basketball program. It is going to be tough to make a big hire right now, though. Like with every coaching change, there will be a player or two transfer. Throw in Maymon, Stokes, McRae, and Barton being gone, and it does not look like they will be competitive for a few seasons. I expected them to be bottom half of the conference next year with Martin, but if they lose another player or two due to the coaching change they may end up being playing the first day of the SECT.

Why does that all make you sad?
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2014, 12:44:59 pm »

Retweeted by Wes Rucker
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Shout out to @wesrucker247 who now gets to cover his 7th football/men's bball/women's bball coach or AD search since 2008.

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Iíll be back in a bit. Iím gonna go dip my head in a vat of acid.

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#Vols got a commitment yesterday. And the signing period opens tomorrow. Because everything here always makes sense.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2014, 12:46:21 pm »

Twitter got me.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2014, 12:46:50 pm »

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I am not surprised that Cuonzo left. I was surprised he didn't end up at Marquette. I can't say I saw this one coming.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2014, 12:47:02 pm »

Because Marshall took them to ONE Final Four?

They were better under Pearl than Wichita State is right now under Marshall. Maybe that changes over time (if Marshall stays), but they have only 3 tournament appearances under Marshall and only one run of note.

Bit premature on your part, I'd say.

How many final fours has Tennessee been too?

I'll wait for you to check the record books.

There is more to a program than the tournament, Marshall is in a much better job than Tennessee and their unrealistic expectations that go with it.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2014, 12:47:13 pm »

That's what you get Tennessee! Ha
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2014, 12:48:06 pm »

How many final fours has Tennessee been too?

I'll wait for you to check the record books.

There is more to a program than the tournament, Marshall is in a much better job than Tennessee and their unrealistic expectations that go with it.

Does one Final Four outweigh multiple tournament runs?

If you offered gave 10 coaches the choice between Tennessee and Wichita State, how many chose Wichita State?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2014, 12:48:10 pm »

Twitter report that Shaka Smart was taken the UT job.

So, the guy who turned down the UCLA job last year, takes the Tennessee job?

Sounds legit.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2014, 12:48:35 pm »

And Wichita St. is a better program now than Tennessee has ever been.


They caught fire one year in the NCAAT. In his 7 seasons, they finished below .500, .500, NIT, NIT Champs, NCAA, Final Four, and 2nd round loss in NCAA. Tennessee made the NCAAT 6 straight seasons from 2006-2011. They also made the Sweet 16 3 of those times, and the Elite 8 once.

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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2014, 12:49:16 pm »

Does one Final Four outweigh multiple tournament runs?

When "runs" equate to a couple sweet 16s and and 2nd round appearances, yes.

This isn't UT's women's program we are talking about.

The men's program has NC expectations with an elite8 ceiling.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2014, 12:49:33 pm »

If Tennessee hired Shaka Smart then they managed the upgrade.

Wow.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2014, 12:50:01 pm »

Twitter report that Shaka Smart was taken the UT job.
That was a joke, because Marquette news stations reported that Smart had accepted the Marquette job when he hadn't.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2014, 12:50:18 pm »

If Tennessee hired Shaka Smart then they managed the upgrade.

Wow.

Was apparently a joke. Guess I didn't get it.
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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2014, 12:51:04 pm »

When "runs" equate to a couple sweet 16s and and 2nd round appearances, yes.

This isn't UT's women's program we are talking about.

The men's program has NC expectations with an elite8 ceiling.

Try two Sweet 16s and an Elite 8.
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« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2014, 12:51:11 pm »

They caught fire one year in the NCAAT. In his 7 seasons, they finished below .500, .500, NIT, NIT Champs, NCAA, Final Four, and 2nd round loss in NCAA. Tennessee made the NCAAT 6 straight seasons from 2006-2011. They also made the Sweet 16 3 of those times, and the Elite 8 once.



And?

Counzo makes the sweet16 and could not even get an extension on the years of his contract.

Marshall is paid well, can bring in talent that he would not be able to bring into Tennessee, and has great job security and grateful fans of said program.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2014, 12:51:54 pm »

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Report: Cal to name Tennessee's Cuonzo Martin as new basketball coach http://bit.ly/1jIjRNH
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2014, 12:52:52 pm »

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Good luck to Cuonzo at Cal. Dave Hart and Vols didn't want to keep him. So now how much will UT pay to replace him?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2014, 12:53:15 pm »

And?

Counzo makes the sweet16 and could not even get an extension on the years of his contract.

Marshall is paid well, can bring in talent that he would not be able to bring into Tennessee, and has great job security and grateful fans of said program.

My man, you asked a question and you were given an answer. You don't have to like the answer, but things and opinions and stances do change. No one here knows what's going through Gregg Marshall's head, but it's reasonable to hypothesize that he might have changed his mind from the last time. Or not. We'll see. Or we won't.
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2014, 12:54:42 pm »

He would have a tougher time scheduling 35 straight wins in the SEC. Maybe he wants a challenge?
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« Reply #35 on: April 15, 2014, 12:55:13 pm »

And?

Counzo makes the sweet16 and could not even get an extension on the years of his contract.

Marshall is paid well, can bring in talent that he would not be able to bring into Tennessee, and has great job security and grateful fans of said program.
My point is you are wrong about Wichita state being a better basketball program now than UT ever was. What Martin did is irrelevant. UT was consistently a top 25, and at times a top 5 program in the mid-2000s. Wichita State had one lucky run as an 8 seed, and then played the easiest schedule ever this year. At the end of the regular season, WSU had not played a single top 25 team in the final top 25 poll. They were a good team, but with even an SEC schedule would have lost 5 or 6 games on the year.
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« Reply #36 on: April 15, 2014, 12:56:43 pm »

Why does that all make you sad?
I wanted Cuonzo to stay at UT and continue to underachieve. With the right coach, I think UT could be a dominant basketball program. UT should have been a top 25 team all season this year, and been the clear #3 in the SEC.
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« Reply #37 on: April 15, 2014, 01:07:09 pm »

LoL. Bolting before things go downhill.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2014, 01:07:47 pm »

Wes Rucker ‏@wesrucker247 ∑1 min
#Vols got a commitment yesterday. And the signing period opens tomorrow. Because everything here always makes sense.
Aaaaand there goes that commitment.

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Per those last two tweets, Cuonzo Martin is taking his 7-1 center Kingsley Okoroh to Cal. He committed to UT yesterday.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2014, 01:09:23 pm »

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« Reply #40 on: April 15, 2014, 01:10:34 pm »

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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #41 on: April 15, 2014, 01:11:13 pm »

Aaaaand there goes that commitment.

Ben Frederickson ‏@Ben_Fred 1m
Per those last two tweets, Cuonzo Martin is taking his 7-1 center Kingsley Okoroh to Cal. He committed to UT yesterday.

The headline read: Will lessen the impact of Stokes going pro
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« Reply #42 on: April 15, 2014, 01:14:20 pm »

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Two-pronged question: 1) Is Tennessee interested "this time" in Gregg Marshall?  2) Would he leave Wichita State now for Knoxville?
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Re: Cuonzo to Cal!!!
« Reply #43 on: April 15, 2014, 01:17:30 pm »

Bruce Pearl to Tennessee  :'(
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #44 on: April 15, 2014, 01:18:52 pm »

Between the AD, CFB, MBB and WBB, Tennessee is on their 7th change... since 2008.
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« Reply #45 on: April 15, 2014, 01:18:59 pm »

My point is you are wrong about Wichita state being a better basketball program now than UT ever was. What Martin did is irrelevant. UT was consistently a top 25, and at times a top 5 program in the mid-2000s. Wichita State had one lucky run as an 8 seed, and then played the easiest schedule ever this year. At the end of the regular season, WSU had not played a single top 25 team in the final top 25 poll. They were a good team, but with even an SEC schedule would have lost 5 or 6 games on the year.

Not sure how you have a "lucky run" to the Final 4 and they are the first team to ever post a 31-0 record in the regular season. Easy schedule or not-if it hasnt been done in the history its a remarkable achievement. 

I dont quite see the SEC as a place that young coaches want to jump to in college basketball.  If the Vols are able to get Shaka or Marshall, it would be a heck of a hire.  I would pay out Pearl at Auburn and bring him back.
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #46 on: April 15, 2014, 01:22:17 pm »

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MT @gobearsad: Welcome to #BearTerritory! Cuonzo Martin to be announced this PM as HeadMen's Basketball Coach @Cal! pic.twitter.com/vQeBH58CNJ

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« Reply #47 on: April 15, 2014, 01:26:03 pm »

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Not even surprised... It was just a matter of time! #RESPECT
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #48 on: April 15, 2014, 01:28:54 pm »

Guess he threw it in Tenner's face (They lost a good one after their fans got stupid...).  Good for him! 
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Re: TN Vols' Cuonzo Martin reported to California
« Reply #49 on: April 15, 2014, 01:30:31 pm »

Marshall is not going to Tenner. There were better jobs last season and this season that he had not interest in. They better bring Cal (Coach Cal not Cuanzo Cal) money to the table if they want him to leave Wichita State for UTK. He knows there will be better job offers next season as well if he decides he wants "a challenge".
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