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Quote from: eathill5 on February 27, 2008, 01:44:18 pm
Are you out of your damn mind? Vandy has a better team than Tenn?  That is ridiculous, yeah vandy beat Tenn at home, but if you think they have better talent or a better team than Tenn you have no clue.
SEC STAT Leaders - VU is better than TN in most.


SCORING
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28  192  107   62  553  19.8
7.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28  160    0  146  466  16.6
12.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28  133   95   71  432  15.4
22.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28  129   71   62  391  14.0


REBOUNDING
## Player-Team               Cl  G  OFF  DEF  TOT Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------
10.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28   77  115  192   6.9
12.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   59  130  189   6.8
17.Chism, Wayne-UT.......... SO 28   59  109  168   6.0
20.Neltner, Ross-VU......... SR 28   46  109  155   5.5
29.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   32  108  140   5.0

FIELD GOAL PCT (Min. 5.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G    FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
4.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   160   273  .586
8.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   192   372  .516


ASSISTS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Assists  Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
5.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28     128   4.57
11.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28     101   3.61

FREE THROW PCT (Min. 2.5 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FTM   FTA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
2.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28    71    84  .845
4.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   146   187  .781
7.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28    75   100  .750
11.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28    86   122  .705


STEALS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Steals  Avg/G
------------------------------------------------
6.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28     49   1.75
12.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28     43   1.54


3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 2.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   3FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   107   234  .457
3.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28    64   153  .418
4.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28    95   245  .388
7.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28    71   191  .372


3-POINT FG MADE
## Player-Team               Cl  G  3FG  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28  107   3.82
2.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28   95   3.39
6.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28   71   2.54
8.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28   64   2.29

BLOCKED SHOTS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Blocks  Avg/G
------------------------------------------------
7.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28     41   1.46
10.Chism, Wayne-UT.......... SO 28     36   1.29


ASSIST/TURNOVER RATIO (Min. 3.0 assists/game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G Asst   Avg Turn   Avg  Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28  128   4.6   42   1.5   3.05
9.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28  101   3.6   61   2.2   1.66
13.Smith, Ramar-UT.......... SO 28   88   3.1   59   2.1   1.49
14.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28   85   3.0   60   2.1   1.42

OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS
## Player-Team               Cl  G  No.  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
6.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28   77   2.75


DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS
## Player-Team               Cl  G  No.  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
9.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28  130   4.64
Pittman or Bust!

The Realist

How many teams can beat the #1 team in the nation and have their top 2 leading scorers held in single digits?  TN beat Memphis that way
TN is the better team.  The Vandy game was just one of the games were it was a storm brewing as soon as you see the schedule.  Visibly tired in the 2nd half and its hard to get up that many times, and almost impossible the way Vandy was.
"We've got chips on our shoulder and really want to go out and show everybody what we can do.  We're not asking for anybody to give us the respect we deserve, but we plan on going out and taking it."
Childs, Gregory.

 

Hogginitall

Quote from: Nashville Fan on February 27, 2008, 03:33:50 pm
SEC STAT Leaders - VU is better than TN in most.


SCORING
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FG  3FG   FT  Pts Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28  192  107   62  553  19.8
7.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28  160    0  146  466  16.6
12.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28  133   95   71  432  15.4
22.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28  129   71   62  391  14.0


REBOUNDING
## Player-Team               Cl  G  OFF  DEF  TOT Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------
10.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28   77  115  192   6.9
12.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   59  130  189   6.8
17.Chism, Wayne-UT.......... SO 28   59  109  168   6.0
20.Neltner, Ross-VU......... SR 28   46  109  155   5.5
29.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   32  108  140   5.0

FIELD GOAL PCT (Min. 5.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G    FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
4.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   160   273  .586
8.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   192   372  .516


ASSISTS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Assists  Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------
5.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28     128   4.57
11.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28     101   3.61

FREE THROW PCT (Min. 2.5 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   FTM   FTA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
2.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28    71    84  .845
4.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28   146   187  .781
7.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28    75   100  .750
11.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28    86   122  .705


STEALS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Steals  Avg/G
------------------------------------------------
6.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28     49   1.75
12.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28     43   1.54


3-POINT FG PCT (Min. 2.0 made per game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G   3FG   FGA   Pct
----------------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28   107   234  .457
3.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28    64   153  .418
4.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28    95   245  .388
7.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28    71   191  .372


3-POINT FG MADE
## Player-Team               Cl  G  3FG  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
1.Foster, Shan-VU.......... SR 28  107   3.82
2.Lofton, Chris-UT......... SR 28   95   3.39
6.Smith, JaJuan-UT......... SR 28   71   2.54
8.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28   64   2.29

BLOCKED SHOTS
## Player-Team               Cl  G Blocks  Avg/G
------------------------------------------------
7.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28     41   1.46
10.Chism, Wayne-UT.......... SO 28     36   1.29


ASSIST/TURNOVER RATIO (Min. 3.0 assists/game)
## Player-Team               Cl  G Asst   Avg Turn   Avg  Ratio
---------------------------------------------------------------
1.Beal, Jermaine-VU........ SO 28  128   4.6   42   1.5   3.05
9.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28  101   3.6   61   2.2   1.66
13.Smith, Ramar-UT.......... SO 28   88   3.1   59   2.1   1.49
14.Gordon, Alex-VU.......... SR 28   85   3.0   60   2.1   1.42

OFFENSIVE REBOUNDS
## Player-Team               Cl  G  No.  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
6.Smith, Tyler-UT.......... SO 28   77   2.75


DEFENSIVE REBOUNDS
## Player-Team               Cl  G  No.  Avg/G
----------------------------------------------
9.Ogilvy, A.J.-VU.......... FR 28  130   4.64


It is obvious that you know nothing about basketball.  Yes, Vanderbilt has 2 scorers that are higher than anyone on Tennessee. But, that just shows how deep Tennessee is.  They score a bunch of points and don't rely on 2 guys to score all their points.  Tennessee is a more talented team than Vanderbilt....PERIOD.  However, Vanderbilt has a better coach...in my opinion, of course.

mathhog

Quote from: The Realist on February 27, 2008, 03:46:44 pm
The Vandy game was just one of the games were it was a storm brewing as soon as you see the schedule.  Visibly tired in the 2nd half and its hard to get up that many times, and almost impossible the way Vandy was.
you should read this book...

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 02:44:33 pm
Neither mathhog, nor I, started this thread.  We're just responding with reasons why he should not be considered the best coach in the SEC.  If you think that Arkansas not being good over the past decade has something to do with how good of a coach Bruce Pearl is, then I feel sorry for you.
Pearl has kicked out butt and I mean kick it the past two years.  You guys keep touting how wonderful we are but yet we do not beat the top teams.  Why not be compared to the best the conference has to offer at this time?  At least you know where you stand against your foes.  Two years in a row for a non basketball school is getting old but I guess you are fine with it?  With the recruits Heath left Pel, we will be stale at best and will not be better for two more years.  Are you ready for that?  Is that good enough about Pearl for you? 

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 03:55:28 pm
It is obvious that you know nothing about basketball.  Yes, Vanderbilt has 2 scorers that are higher than anyone on Tennessee. But, that just shows how deep Tennessee is.  They score a bunch of points and don't rely on 2 guys to score all their points.  Tennessee is a more talented team than Vanderbilt....PERIOD.  However, Vanderbilt has a better coach...in my opinion, of course.
This thread is about Pearl's coaching ability.  Take your own advice.

ALLVOL

A few in here who think Pearl is not that good of a coach look so foolish to anyone who knows basketball. Is he the best in the SEC? I think that honor is held for Billy D since he did win back to back titles. But to bash a guy who took a non basketball school and made them very good is dumb at best. Since he has been at UT the team has gone deeper each year in the NCAA tourny. That Math and Hoginitall is a fact that you cannot dispute. I like our coach a lot and we will continue to get better and remain a very good team as long as we have him.

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 27, 2008, 04:40:16 pm
This thread is about Pearl's coaching ability.  Take your own advice.

No, this thread is whether or not Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  If Vanderbilt has a better coach, in my opinion, wouldn't that disqualify Pearl as the best coach in the SEC?  Seems you have a reading problem.

ALLVOL

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 04:47:58 pm
No, this thread is whether or not Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  If Vanderbilt has a better coach, in my opinion, wouldn't that disqualify Pearl as the best coach in the SEC?  Seems you have a reading problem.
Well Pearl has a better head to head and 1 and 1 this year with a 20 point victory in Ktown. But I guess head to head doesnt matter. You are in a very small minority thinking Stallings is better than Pearl. Hide and watch how far he takes this program before he is done there.

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 27, 2008, 04:38:53 pm
Pearl has kicked out butt and I mean kick it the past two years.  You guys keep touting how wonderful we are but yet we do not beat the top teams.  Why not be compared to the best the conference has to offer at this time?  At least you know where you stand against your foes.  Two years in a row for a non basketball school is getting old but I guess you are fine with it?  With the recruits Heath left Pel, we will be stale at best and will not be better for two more years.  Are you ready for that?  Is that good enough about Pearl for you? 

I haven't said anything about Pearl/Tennessee in relation to us.  I KNOW they are a better team than us right now.  Beating Arkansas by 20 in Knoxville says NOTHING about Bruce Pearl's coaching ability.  NOTHING.  It shows that Arkansas can't beat >BAD teams on the road.  Simple enough for you?

Arkansas is worse than Tennessee right now, by a long shot.  But, that has nothing to do with the question being put forth in this thread.

Hogginitall

Quote from: ALLVOL on February 27, 2008, 04:50:43 pm
Well Pearl has a better head to head and 1 and 1 this year with a 20 point victory in Ktown. But I guess head to head doesnt matter. You are in a very small minority thinking Stallings is better than Pearl. Hide and watch how far he takes this program before he is done there.

And yet, Stallings has the same amount of Sweet 16 appearances as Pearl, while coaching at VANDERBILT.  Remember back when Tennessee went into the NCAAT as a #2 seed, almost lost to #15 seed Winthrop and then lost to #10 seed Witchita State?  Great coaches don't let their teams do that, especially not the best coach in the SEC.

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 04:47:58 pm
No, this thread is whether or not Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  If Vanderbilt has a better coach, in my opinion, wouldn't that disqualify Pearl as the best coach in the SEC?  Seems you have a reading problem.
Your listing stats of players of another team.  How is that different than talking about the Hogs and Tennessee.  You are comparing Vandy to Tennessee and that is no different than me comparing the Hogs to the Vols.  Get your rose colored glasses off.  Stay on topic please.

ALLVOL

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 04:56:12 pm
And yet, Stallings has the same amount of Sweet 16 appearances as Pearl, while coaching at VANDERBILT.  Remember back when Tennessee went into the NCAAT as a #2 seed, almost lost to #15 seed Winthrop and then lost to #10 seed Witchita State?  Great coaches don't let their teams do that, especially not the best coach in the SEC.
You're right. I mean we all know that Roy Williams is a great coach and while he always had high seeds while coaching Kansas he NEVER exited early did he? Ohhhhh my bad I brought facts out. Also if you knew as much as you think you would know that Vandy has always been a pretty good BB school not so with UT. In fact many years that is their cheer during our football game with them.

 

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 27, 2008, 04:57:55 pm
Your listing stats of players of another team.  How is that different than talking about the Hogs and Tennessee.  You are comparing Vandy to Tennessee and that is no different than me comparing the Hogs to the Vols.  Get your rose colored glasses off.  Stay on topic please.

You are a complete dumbass.  I'm done with you.  Having a conversation with you is like trying to talk to one of those GPS devices that gives talking directions.  You keep repeating the same thing over and over, even if you're wrong.

"Turn left NOW"
But, I'll run off the bridge!
"Turn left NOW"
Hell no, I'll die!
"Turn left NOW"

Hogginitall

Quote from: ALLVOL on February 27, 2008, 04:59:30 pm
You're right. I mean we all know that Roy Williams is a great coach and while he always had high seeds while coaching Kansas he NEVER exited early did he? Ohhhhh my bad I brought facts out. Also if you knew as much as you think you would know that Vandy has always been a pretty good BB school not so with UT. In fact many years that is their cheer during our football game with them.

You're right, he choked a lot more than he should've at Kansas.  However, he still took them to 2 Championship Games, 4 Final Fours, 5 Elite Eights, and 9 Sweet 16s in his 15 years at KU.  Pearl will never be talked about in the same breath as Roy Williams in 20 years.  Pearl is a good coach, but not a great one.

ALLVOL

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 05:20:42 pm
You're right, he choked a lot more than he should've at Kansas.  However, he still took them to 2 Championship Games, 4 Final Fours, 5 Elite Eights, and 9 Sweet 16s in his 15 years at KU.  Pearl will never be talked about in the same breath as Roy Williams in 20 years.  Pearl is a good coach, but not a great one.
He won a national title at DII. He took a very small midmajor from Wisconsin to the tourny and then took them back to the sweet 16. He has taken UT from being an also ran to a team that is nationally known and is recruiting across the nation. He has taken UT deeper in the tourny each year. I don't know if you realize it or not but that is called progression. Give him time, this is only his 3rd year and the season is not over. Your obvious dislike of him and UT has clouded your judgement and makes you look foolish.

ALLVOL

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 05:20:42 pm
You're right, he choked a lot more than he should've at Kansas.  However, he still took them to 2 Championship Games, 4 Final Fours, 5 Elite Eights, and 9 Sweet 16s in his 15 years at KU.  Pearl will never be talked about in the same breath as Roy Williams in 20 years.  Pearl is a good coach, but not a great one.
Also just hide and watch what he does while at UT. The recruiting will only get better and better. He took a program that had NEVER been Number 1 to that ranking. Now we move on. This loss to Vandy sucked but make no mistake, our season is FAR from over. I bet you there are very, very few teams who want to face UT in the Tourny.

The Realist

Bruce Pearl is the 2nd fastest coach to 300 wins in the NCAA taking only 382 games to do so. 
Ironically, Roy Williams did it 12 games quicker than he did.
"We've got chips on our shoulder and really want to go out and show everybody what we can do.  We're not asking for anybody to give us the respect we deserve, but we plan on going out and taking it."
Childs, Gregory.

mathhog

Quote from: The Realist on February 27, 2008, 05:37:47 pm
Bruce Pearl is the 2nd fastest coach to 300 wins in the NCAA taking only 382 games to do so. 
Ironically, Roy Williams did it 12 games quicker than he did.

You're right realist, I gotta give him credit for being fast...

Bruce Pearl is "the 1st fastest coach to lose a #1 ranking in the history of college basketball" (something like 29 hours?)

(wonder if the vols make a dvd about that... I can see it now, "That Tuesday Morning When We Were #1", rated G, on sale for $24.99)

LOL!

jbcarol

Florida did that first but ... a couple of National Championships later it doesn't come up much.
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The Realist

And I need to give you credit for your great usage of the font capabilities.  Because nobody could understand you until your words were twice as large and bold
"We've got chips on our shoulder and really want to go out and show everybody what we can do.  We're not asking for anybody to give us the respect we deserve, but we plan on going out and taking it."
Childs, Gregory.

The Hog

Mathhog, Memphis is probably the holder of the shortest time for number one.  In the eighties they held the number 1 position for less than 3 hours.  They took over the one spot then turned around and lost on the night of the pole.  I work with a Memphis BB grad and we were discussing the short stay at the top of Tennessee.

Pearl's record is not Wooten and there will not be another like the Wizard of Westwood.  He was one of a kind.  I don't think Pearl is the gem of the SEC as far as the best coach in the SEC but he will be no worse than third.  I looked up a few of the facts some of ALLVOL and The Realist and they are correct.  Pearl was at DII University of Southern Illinois from 92/93 season to the 2000/2001 season.  He was hired by the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee starting the 2001 season through the 2004/2005 season.  Hired by the Vols in 2005 to present.  He has coach a total of 7 years at the DI level.  He is the 2nd fastest coach to 300 but most of them came at the USI.  Pearl is good but like any coach in the good old USA, they have to prove themselves.  John Wooden left his birth place of Indiana to take the UCLA job with a lot of UCLA supporters not knowing what they were getting.  They got the best coach ever to coach college basketball. 

There are numerous up and comers you can throw into the same category as Pearl.  I will give him credit for one thing, his kids seem to really like his wide open style of ball.
Automatic RUN!

eldeearr

Nice game by the Hogs at Bammer tonight. 

mathhog

Quote from: eldeearr on February 27, 2008, 10:17:38 pm
Nice game by the Hogs at Bammer tonight. 

Thanks!

I guess that makes Pearl the best coach in the SEC?

Hats off to you vols, you played your guts out tonight as Bama beat Arkansas!!!!!!

So do you get 0.5 wins credit for tonight, and pearl another 0.5 wins?

just curious....

 

eldeearr

There's been a lot of back and forth on this thread tonight.   Is Pearl the best coach in the SEC?  No, but he's in the top 3.  I'm a Hog fan, but I'm amazed at the condescending attitude taken against anyone and anything that's not Arkansas. 

Arkansas is 1-4 in the last two weeks following a four-game winning streak.  Guess who started the 1-4 streak two weeks ago?    Thank your lucky stars that the Hogs face 24-4 Vandy in Fayetteville.   They haven't lost in Nashville this year in a gym that provides one of the most advantageous settings for the home team in the whole country.   I hope the Hogs win Saturday.  I'll be watching to see if you can pull it off at the Bud.

ALLVOL

Math your so off the mark. There have been plenty of teams that held the #1 spot only till their next game. Duke, NC, Syracuse, Kansas, Wake and others. By the way, UT will be #1 until Monday when the polls come out. You have no credibility and it also looks like you don't know BB. Either that or your dislike of all things Tennessee makes you look foolish.

LRCentralTiger

February 28, 2008, 10:57:05 am #126 Last Edit: February 28, 2008, 10:59:02 am by LRCentralTiger
Quote from: ALLVOL on February 28, 2008, 10:42:49 am
Math your so off the mark. There have been plenty of teams that held the #1 spot only till their next game. Duke, NC, Syracuse, Kansas, Wake and others. By the way, UT will be #1 until Monday when the polls come out. You have no credibility and it also looks like you don't know BB. Either that or your dislike of all things Tennessee makes you look foolish.
Ask him about Pel choking at Bama last night.  Biggest game for Arkansas to date may have KO'd us out of the big dance.  Plus he ignores facts when they slam his facts which are always opinions.

ALLVOL

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 28, 2008, 10:57:05 am
Ask him about Pel choking at Bama last night.  Biggest game for Arkansas to date may have KO'd us out of the big dance.
I like the Hogs and I hate bammer. I took that loss pretty hard last night. I don't get it with some of the players. Pel seems to know what he is doing and I think you're in good hand for the future but it is tough to take now I'm sure. As far as math, I'll not stoop to his level and I choose to live in reality.

Hogginitall

Quote from: eldeearr on February 27, 2008, 10:32:34 pm
There's been a lot of back and forth on this thread tonight.   Is Pearl the best coach in the SEC?  No, but he's in the top 3.  I'm a Hog fan, but I'm amazed at the condescending attitude taken against anyone and anything that's not Arkansas. 

Arkansas is 1-4 in the last two weeks following a four-game winning streak.  Guess who started the 1-4 streak two weeks ago?    Thank your lucky stars that the Hogs face 24-4 Vandy in Fayetteville.   They haven't lost in Nashville this year in a gym that provides one of the most advantageous settings for the home team in the whole country.   I hope the Hogs win Saturday.  I'll be watching to see if you can pull it off at the Bud.

Again, we know that the Vols are better than the Hogs right now.  And we only have Stan Heath to thank for that.  However, that still doesn't make Bruce Pearl the best coach in the SEC.  And I don't have a condescending attitude towards anyone and anything that's not Arkansas.  I've given credit to Pearl for being a good coach, just not a great one.  I've said numerous times that I think Kevin Stallings is a really good coach and better than Pearl.  I think Billy Donovan is the best coach in the SEC.  Those are not condescending remarks.  If you think that me saying that Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC and that his teams have choked in the postseason is being condescending, then so be it.  I don't think it is.

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 28, 2008, 10:57:05 am
Ask him about Pel choking at Bama last night.  Biggest game for Arkansas to date may have KO'd us out of the big dance.  Plus he ignores facts when they slam his facts which are always opinions.

Yes, because Pel "choking" (even though it is these players, they've done it for 4 years on the road) means that Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  Here's how an argument with you goes:

Me:  Bruce Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC.
You:  The Hogs lost last night.
Me:  So. That has nothing to do with Pearl not being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee beat Arkansas.
Me:  Again, nothing to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee has had a better record than Arkansas over the past 3 years.
Me:  So what.  Heath wasn't a very good coach.  That still doesn't make Pearl the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Arkansas isn't even going to make the NCAA Tournament.
Me:  What does that have to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC?
You:  Arkansas lost last night.
Me:  I GIVE UP!

ALLVOL

February 28, 2008, 11:13:12 am #130 Last Edit: February 28, 2008, 11:16:21 am by ALLVOL
Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 11:03:15 am
Again, we know that the Vols are better than the Hogs right now.  And we only have Stan Heath to thank for that.  However, that still doesn't make Bruce Pearl the best coach in the SEC.  And I don't have a condescending attitude towards anyone and anything that's not Arkansas.  I've given credit to Pearl for being a good coach, just not a great one.  I've said numerous times that I think Kevin Stallings is a really good coach and better than Pearl.  I think Billy Donovan is the best coach in the SEC.  Those are not condescending remarks.  If you think that me saying that Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC and that his teams have choked in the postseason is being condescending, then so be it.  I don't think it is.

If you read his post I think you will see he said that Pearl was not the best either. I also think it is Billy D and not even close. It will take another coach to win 2 rings also before they can even talk. But some of your assertions that Vandy is less of a BB school than UT is foolish at best. Pearl won a National title in DII was that a choke? He has taken the VOLS deeper each year. Is that not progression? He has beaten the Number 1 team in the nation and for the first time in UT history we are #1. Is that not a big game? It's like those who dislike UT and would say Peyton Manning could not win the big game because he didn't beat Florida. They would look right past winning the SEC and stopping the big run Alabama had on us and owning them (our biggest rival). I get it you don't like UT and that is fine. But I think you are in a very small minority nation wide who thinks stallings is better than Pearl.

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 11:10:16 am
Yes, because Pel "choking" (even though it is these players, they've done it for 4 years on the road) means that Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  Here's how an argument with you goes:

Me:  Bruce Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC.
You:  The Hogs lost last night.
Me:  So. That has nothing to do with Pearl not being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee beat Arkansas.
Me:  Again, nothing to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee has had a better record than Arkansas over the past 3 years.
Me:  So what.  Heath wasn't a very good coach.  That still doesn't make Pearl the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Arkansas isn't even going to make the NCAA Tournament.
Me:  What does that have to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC?
You:  Arkansas lost last night.
Me:  I GIVE UP!
Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 11:10:16 am
Yes, because Pel "choking" (even though it is these players, they've done it for 4 years on the road) means that Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.  Here's how an argument with you goes:

Me:  Bruce Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC.
You:  The Hogs lost last night.
Me:  So. That has nothing to do with Pearl not being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee beat Arkansas.
Me:  Again, nothing to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Tennessee has had a better record than Arkansas over the past 3 years.
Me:  So what.  Heath wasn't a very good coach.  That still doesn't make Pearl the best coach in the SEC.
You:  Arkansas isn't even going to make the NCAA Tournament.
Me:  What does that have to do with Pearl being the best coach in the SEC?
You:  Arkansas lost last night.
Me:  I GIVE UP!
I stayed on topic for you this time.  Both coaches are capable of choking.

PeytonManningSUCKS

February 28, 2008, 11:15:13 am #132 Last Edit: February 28, 2008, 11:17:30 am by RanSolo
Quote from: ALLVOL on February 28, 2008, 11:13:12 am
If you read his post I think you will see he said that Pearl was not the best either. I also think it is Billy D and not even close. It will take another coach to win 2 rings also before they can even talk. But some of your assertions that Vandy is less of a BB school than UT is foolish at best. Pearl won a National title in DII was that a choke? He has taken the VOLS deeper each year. Is that not prossion? He has beaten the Number 1 team in the nation and for the first time in UT history we are #1. Is that not a big game? It's like those who dislike UT and would say Peyton Manning could not win the big game because he didn't beat Florida. They would look right past winning the SEC and stopping the big run Alabama had on us and owning them (our biggest rival). I get it you don't like UT and that is fine. But I think you are in a very small minority nation wide who thinks stallings is better than Pearl.

Peyton sucks.  He's not even the best QB in his family.  Eli won one in less years in the league with less talent.  haha Peyton's gonna have to make excuses about that at thanksgiving.

Hogginitall

Quote from: ALLVOL on February 28, 2008, 11:13:12 am
If you read his post I think you will see he said that Pearl was not the best either. I also think it is Billy D and not even close. It will take another coach to win 2 rings also before they can even talk. But some of your assertions that Vandy is less of a BB school than UT is foolish at best. Pearl won a National title in DII was that a choke? He has taken the VOLS deeper each year. Is that not progression? He has beaten the Number 1 team in the nation and for the first time in UT history we are #1. Is that not a big game? It's like those who dislike UT and would say Peyton Manning could not win the big game because he didn't beat Florida. They would look right past winning the SEC and stopping the big run Alabama had on us and owning them (our biggest rival). I get it you don't like UT and that is fine. But I think you are in a very small minority nation wide who thinks stallings is better than Pearl.


I have no dislike for UT.  No more than any other fan of an opposing school.  In fact, I was cheering for UT against Memphis, as I always do for SEC teams (in any sport) playing teams from outside the conference.  This has nothing to do with me liking or disliking UT.  I just don't think Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.

ALLVOL

Quote from: RanSolo on February 28, 2008, 11:15:13 am
Peyton sucks.  He's not even the best QB in his family.  Eli won one in less years in the league with less talent.  haha Peyton's gonna have to make excuses about that at thanksgiving.

UHHHHHHHHH... OK.

I bet they do go at it at times. Can you imagine the bragging right Archie has at the Country club? Other dads just have to shut up.

ALLVOL

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 11:19:18 am
I have no dislike for UT.  No more than any other fan of an opposing school.  In fact, I was cheering for UT against Memphis, as I always do for SEC teams (in any sport) playing teams from outside the conference.  This has nothing to do with me liking or disliking UT.  I just don't think Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.

If you check you will see that Hog fans are the ones who stated that Pearl was the best. Myself and the other UT guy agree that Billy D is. But I still think you are in a very, very small minority on your thought that Stallings is better. And your assertion that UT is more of a BB school than Vandy. We may very well become bigger if Pearl stays long enough. But in history it is not even close. Vandy and Memphis are the BB schools in Tennessee and UT is the Football school.

jbcarol

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PeytonManningSUCKS

Quote from: ALLVOL on February 28, 2008, 11:22:49 am
UHHHHHHHHH... OK.

I bet they do go at it at times. Can you imagine the bragging right Archie has at the Country club? Other dads just have to shut up.
hehe, I'm just a hata.  I've lived in TN for a while now.  Too many babies (boys and girls) named peyton for me to stomach it.  haha

The Realist

Quote from: jbcarol on February 28, 2008, 11:25:28 am
Tough to be Cooper?
Cooper is doing just fine for himself selling oil futures in New Orleans
"We've got chips on our shoulder and really want to go out and show everybody what we can do.  We're not asking for anybody to give us the respect we deserve, but we plan on going out and taking it."
Childs, Gregory.

jbcarol

Cooper has a great attitude and I would love to have access to watch two brothers in the Super Bowl in consecutive years.
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LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 11:19:18 am
I have no dislike for UT.  No more than any other fan of an opposing school.  In fact, I was cheering for UT against Memphis, as I always do for SEC teams (in any sport) playing teams from outside the conference.  This has nothing to do with me liking or disliking UT.  I just don't think Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.
You have some people off topic.  You better do your board monitoring thing and straighten them out.

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 28, 2008, 11:41:48 am
You have some people off topic.  You better do your board monitoring thing and straighten them out.

I'm waiting on you to tell us that Arkansas lost last night and that Tennessee beat Arkansas by 20, therefore Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 12:17:06 pm
I'm waiting on you to tell us that Arkansas lost last night and that Tennessee beat Arkansas by 20, therefore Bruce Pearl is the best coach in the SEC.
Get aback on topic please.  Your like the kettle calling the pot black.  Read my first post or can you understand what you read?  Evidently not.  Go play with your Smarty Jones Bobble Head Horse.  You are probably better at that.

Hogginitall

Quote from: LRCentralTiger on February 28, 2008, 01:02:18 pm
Get aback on topic please.  Your like the kettle calling the pot black.  Read my first post or can you understand what you read?  Evidently not.  Go play with your Smarty Jones Bobble Head Horse.  You are probably better at that.

I don't have one of those.  And that's Curlin in my picture.  I've been on topic the entire time.  You're the one that cannot seem to stay on topic.  I guess when you don't have the intelligence to make a counterpoint, you just continue with off-topic comments, hoping that people get distracted.  Bottom line is, Bruce Pearl is not the best coach in the SEC, and it has nothing to do with Arkansas' basketball program (even though your little, intellect-free mind thinks so).

LRCentralTiger

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 27, 2008, 02:41:54 pm
Take a look at the title of the thread.  "Bruce Pearl the best coach in the SEC?"  I do not see where it asks "Bruce Pearl the best coach in the SEC because Arkansas is not as good as Tennesee?"

I'm the one that is on point, you're the one that is off-topic.
I will repeat an earlier post for you since you refuse to acknowledge my post on Pearl as the best in the SEC.  Here it is real simple.
1 - Billy D.
2 - Stallings (who I did not list his name but you provided at least one useful bit of info by providing his name)
3 - Pearl

I love a loser so that means I love you!

Anybody that knows horse racing knows Curlin.  I posted his race video link for the Dubai race today. 

Oliver

Quote from: mathhog on February 06, 2008, 06:22:42 pm
nope.  not the best coach.  pearl always chokes in the big games!!!   tn always starts hot, but fizzles out...

sectourney 06 - tn wins the east #1 seed... loses to #5east seed south carolina!
ncaa tourney 06 - after getting a 2 seed, tn almost loses to #15 winthrop, then is crushed by 7 seed wichita state
sectourney 07 - loses to #6 seed lsu that was like 3-13 in conference
ncaa tourney 07 - built 20 pt lead on ohio state in sweet 16, then changed his gameplan... tn lost in one of the biggest choke jobs in ncaa history

0-2 in the sec tourney, even though they've had 2 winning seasons in the sec and won the east.....

PASS!



He just beat the number one team in the nation at their house.  When was the last time we beat the number one team in the nation?  You may not believe him to be the best coach in the SEC (I don't either) but before we go criticizing other coaches let's not forget that we can't even beat Alabama on the road currently.

Hogginitall

Quote from: Oliver Miller on February 28, 2008, 02:31:50 pm
He just beat the number one team in the nation at their house.  When was the last time we beat the number one team in the nation?  You may not believe him to be the best coach in the SEC (I don't either) but before we go criticizing other coaches let's not forget that we can't even beat Alabama on the road currently.

Look, it's LRCentralTiger, Jr.!

Oliver


Hogginitall

Quote from: Oliver Miller on February 28, 2008, 02:39:29 pm
???

Arkansas can't beat Alabama on the road.  Therefore, Bruce Pearl is a good coach.

Make sense to you?

Oliver

Quote from: Hogginitall on February 28, 2008, 02:40:41 pm
Arkansas can't beat Alabama on the road.  Therefore, Bruce Pearl is a good coach.

Make sense to you?

Bruce Pearl not only beats us but kicks our a$#, and when a thread is started about Bruce Pearl...fans of that team that got their a$# beat start talking trash about how he chokes in big games.  Make any sense to you?

I don't know how you work but when somebody kicks my a$# in something, I don't walk up to them afterwards and say, "You're still a big choker."