*Picture worth a thousand posts: How does it feel to be a BASKETBALL HAS-BEEN??

[hoginsanfran]

Can you believe it?  Even Georgia!  even Tennessee!  I had no idea the numbers were so low....  Guys, WE ARE AN SEC DOORMAT! 

9th out of 12 !
Average SEC record: 7-9 !
What happened ? ? ?

[Fayetnam]

Gee, I was already depressed enough about basketball before  you did this! Good Job Guy!

[hoginsanfran]

Gee, I was already depressed enough about basketball before  you did this! Good Job Guy!

sorry... i just crunched the numbers, and was utterly amazed at how far we fell since 95...

even UT!

[Factual Fiction]

it's too much pressure being first anyways....................................

[WindyCityHog]

Very telling.

Nice job.

[Sao Ming]

Us...

[Since 1894]

Sounds about right for a small school with limited resources and recruiting territory.  You know, our AD says we will usually be 8th or 9th and can't attract a top caliber coach.

Be Good

[little pigee]

Why do we get the pink bar?

[spudhog]

question is, how many more wins before we do get our next ncaa win?

[BorderPatrol]

9th out of 12?

Nice math.

bp

[hoginsanfran]

9th out of 12?

Nice math.

bp

How the mighty have fallen... it used to be us and KY, now we look at playing @ Auburn saying "well, we lost there 2 out of 3 years in a row..."

[Gas Can]

9th out of 12?

Nice math.

bp

I'm not following you.  Would you prefer "T-8th out of 12"?

BP's a Hugger...

[hoginsanfran]

9th out of 12?

Nice math.

bp

I'm not following you.  Would you prefer "T-8th out of 12"?

i thought that at first too, but i think he was honestly saying "nice math."  second completely different thought was (wow!) '9th out of 12?' (how can we be so bad?)

[razor rob]

And we beat Vandy twice this year.

[Winner]

Did you actually create that graph?

[hoginsanfran]

Did you actually create that graph?

Nope, MSExcel did

I found the yearly records on a website and excel summed them up and made the graph.

Nothing I can take credit for... though obviously i tinted Arkansas pink (we just weren't worthy of red......)

[CheeZ_PuFF]

Wow, so your saying we're right at our potential then? No way Stan loses his job because 8th 9th is what we're suppose to expect every year right? Case closed, Stan and Nutt will be staying until the end of time

[WestMemphisHogFan]

Wow! Nice work, but very, very telling.  I LONG for the days of Razorback domination.

[IcEwalker]

thanks Nolan!

[hoginsanfran]

thanks Nolan!

thanks UA Admin!

[Bomis Hawg]

Another nugget.

Teams that had their highest pre-tournament AP Ranking:  Florida at #3 (previous best was 8]; Wisconsin at #6 (previous best was 10); Texas A&M at #9 (first final ranking); Oregon at #10 (prevous best was #11); Washington State at #13 (previous best was #18); SIU at #15 (previous best was #20); Nevada at #21 (first final ranking); Winthrop at #22 (first final ranking)

Teams on the rise.
Arkansas can be next.

[litmachog]

WOW Hogs.  That sure is a swift kick in the stomach.  Makes me want to crawl off into a hole and scream into a pillow. 

Any other information needed to afirm that Heath has gots to go!!!!

[Squealsonwheels]

Let John White know how you feel.

jawhite@uark.edu

Mr White,
     Please do your job and either endorse Stan Heath like you did with your buddy Nutt or else fire him now!!
I am sick of this joke of a athletic dept. and BOT that continues to be satisfied with the continued downward spiral of our programs. Sir let me remind you that the money that I spend buying season tickets to attend Razorback games is my money and the money I spend on sending my son to college is my money.  At this point I'm 60/40 in favor of shifting all my funds to UCA.
I demand results for the money paid or at least a coach who is respected by his actions and I also demand mine and the majority of Razorback fans voices be heard as well, You make it very clear you could care less about the typical fan or the continued decline of our once proud athletic program. You allow a lair and man with lowest character I know to continue to bring our football program to the front pages of every national publication and be the laughing stock of everyone.
Do the right thing and seek Heaths resignation today. Then take a real hard look at the person running our football program as well.
Thank you for taking the time to read this even though I know you didnt.  Its a common fact you do not read emails from the common season ticket buying fans.



He wont read it but I just sent my two cents worth to him

[King-Tusk]

Sweet!!!  I thought that we still had a sense of respectability for our program.  At least we're still ahead of 3 states though.

[hoginsanfran]

Sweet!!!  I thought that we still had a sense of respectability for our program.  At least we're still ahead of 3 states though.

and one of those is a 2 time NIT champ!

[holtzhog]

I don't like being a bottom feeder in FB and BB.

[hoginsanfran]

Look on the bright side.  It should only take about 8 or 9 years of undefeated SEC play to catch KY and FL.

It makes me angry that FL is up there... what have they ever done?  For years they were HORRIBLE.  then, in 94 (most forget this), they made the Final Four with that DeClerq guy.

Under Donovan they were like the old Zona teams.. or kansas until this year... CHOKERS! EARLY EXITS!  then they get to the title game in 2000 as a 5 seed, excitement galore.  ever since then they've been chalking up good regular seasons, until last year they win it all.

FLORIDA as a BBALL POWERHOUSE?

that should be US!!!!!!!!

I'm so hacked, for real!

[RhodeHog]

I would bet good coin that our football chart would look just like that.

[strawhog]

I keep hearing that a picture is worth a thousand words.

[hoginsanfran]

I keep hearing that a picture is worth a thousand words.

are you talking about in general or a specific picture unrelated to hoops but related to a hasbeen?

[jbcarol]

Why do we get the pink bar?

Reggie Herring insisted on it.

Nice graph and insight.  +1

[Frank and Swine]

Look on the bright side.  It should only take about 8 or 9 years of undefeated SEC play to catch KY and FL.

It makes me angry that FL is up there... what have they ever done?  For years they were HORRIBLE.  then, in 94 (most forget this), they made the Final Four with that DeClerq guy.

Under Donovan they were like the old Zona teams.. or kansas until this year... CHOKERS! EARLY EXITS!  then they get to the title game in 2000 as a 5 seed, excitement galore.  ever since then they've been chalking up good regular seasons, until last year they win it all.

FLORIDA as a BBALL POWERHOUSE?

that should be US!!!!!!!!

I'm so hacked, for real!

I feel your pain, but have some semblance of faith in the idiots running show.  Odds are, their hiring practices will improve at this point.   

Their firing practices have to prevail first!

[hoginsanfran]

and what is sad is this:

the first 4 or 5 years of our SEC career, WE were #1, and Ky was #2, and no one was close for 3 (probably miss state)

it just makes ya sick that's all.......

Look on the bright side.  It should only take about 8 or 9 years of undefeated SEC play to catch KY and FL.

It makes me angry that FL is up there... what have they ever done?  For years they were HORRIBLE.  then, in 94 (most forget this), they made the Final Four with that DeClerq guy.

Under Donovan they were like the old Zona teams.. or kansas until this year... CHOKERS! EARLY EXITS!  then they get to the title game in 2000 as a 5 seed, excitement galore.  ever since then they've been chalking up good regular seasons, until last year they win it all.

FLORIDA as a BBALL POWERHOUSE?

that should be US!!!!!!!!

I'm so hacked, for real!

I feel your pain, but have some semblance of faith in the idiots running show.  Odds are, their hiring practices will improve at this point.   

Their firing practices have to prevail first!

Nice   I fear they are pretty far away from pulling ANY "trigger" at this point!!

[jbcarol]

and what is sad is this:

the first 4 or 5 years of our SEC career, WE were #1, and Ky was #2, and no one was close for 3 (probably miss state)

it just makes ya sick that's all.......

Look on the bright side.  It should only take about 8 or 9 years of undefeated SEC play to catch KY and FL.

It makes me angry that FL is up there... what have they ever done?  For years they were HORRIBLE.  then, in 94 (most forget this), they made the Final Four with that DeClerq guy.

Under Donovan they were like the old Zona teams.. or kansas until this year... CHOKERS! EARLY EXITS!  then they get to the title game in 2000 as a 5 seed, excitement galore.  ever since then they've been chalking up good regular seasons, until last year they win it all.

FLORIDA as a BBALL POWERHOUSE?

that should be US!!!!!!!!

I'm so hacked, for real!

I feel your pain, but have some semblance of faith in the idiots running show.  Odds are, their hiring practices will improve at this point.   

Their firing practices have to prevail first!

Nice   I fear they are pretty far away from pulling ANY "trigger" at this point!!

Total SEC Regular Season Wins

                             Arkansas        Kentucky     Alabama
'91-92 thru '94-95         49                 51             39
'91-92 thru '95-96         58                 67             48

*Excluded SEC Conference Tournament games (Kentucky lost a conference tournament championship game in March 1996).

Keepin' it real   But your point is right on.  Great teams, a great rivalry.  3rd place not close.

Fun facts on that little search:

Kentucky finished 2nd in the SEC-E to Vandy in 1993 who went 14-2 (not a bad UK team)
Arkansas won the overall SEC Championship in 1992 and 1994.
Kentucky (NC) went 16-0 in 1996 (reg. season) but lost the Championship game to Miss. St.
In Arkansas' first 3 years in the conference, Hogs and Cats had the same # of wins.

[merccedes]

I just emailed JW they should be getting rid of Heath as soon as the appropriate replacement is available.

[Steef]

Got here late. Sorry guys.

Well, in fairness, FB did 'call that mediocrity, brutha!'

Again to be fair, he was in a position to mold/shape/create his own prediction.

[pigture perfect]

My impression was that the SEC courted us so that we could help give our conference more prestige in basketball. Seems to me that by these numbers, we're not holding up our end of the bargain.

[jbcarol]

Look on the bright side.  It should only take about 8 or 9 years of undefeated SEC play to catch KY and FL.

Well...  At least Florida

[pignatious]

Can you believe it?  Even Georgia!  even Tennessee!  I had no idea the numbers were so low....  Guys, WE ARE AN SEC DOORMAT! 

9th out of 12 !
Average SEC record: 7-9 !
What happened ? ? ?

9th in the SEC...Well, we are meeting JFB's expectations, so all must be right with the world. Great job, Stan!

[hoginsanfran]

My impression was that the SEC courted us so that we could help give our conference more prestige in basketball. Seems to me that by these numbers, we're not holding up our end of the bargain.

I hate to say it, but you're absolutely right... seeing schools with zero tradition or history in basketball like TENNESSEE way ahead of us in wins since 99 makes me want to hurl.

I mean, cmon, Tennessee basketball?  it's a freaking joke... yet its dozens of wins ahead of us!

[Jim]

Let John White know how you feel.

jawhite@uark.edu

Mr White,
     Please do your job and either endorse Stan Heath like you did with your buddy Nutt or else fire him now!!
I am sick of this joke of a athletic dept. and BOT that continues to be satisfied with the continued downward spiral of our programs. Sir let me remind you that the money that I spend buying season tickets to attend Razorback games is my money and the money I spend on sending my son to college is my money.  At this point I'm 60/40 in favor of shifting all my funds to UCA.
I demand results for the money paid or at least a coach who is respected by his actions and I also demand mine and the majority of Razorback fans voices be heard as well, You make it very clear you could care less about the typical fan or the continued decline of our once proud athletic program. You allow a lair and man with lowest character I know to continue to bring our football program to the front pages of every national publication and be the laughing stock of everyone.
Do the right thing and seek Heaths resignation today. Then take a real hard look at the person running our football program as well.
Thank you for taking the time to read this even though I know you didnt.  Its a common fact you do not read emails from the common season ticket buying fans.



He wont read it but I just sent my two cents worth to him

Squeals,

You need to learn how to quit sugar coating things and just tell guys like White how you really feel.  This is no time to be speaking in riddles.
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LOL!!

Great letter!!  I hope someone up there reads it and begins to fathom how absolutely pathetic we've become and quit relying on the daily dose of saccharin & slop on the afternoon airwaves.

+1

[hoginsanfran]

Let John White know how you feel.

jawhite@uark.edu

Mr White,
     Please do your job and either endorse Stan Heath like you did with your buddy Nutt or else fire him now!!
I am sick of this joke of a athletic dept. and BOT that continues to be satisfied with the continued downward spiral of our programs. Sir let me remind you that the money that I spend buying season tickets to attend Razorback games is my money and the money I spend on sending my son to college is my money.  At this point I'm 60/40 in favor of shifting all my funds to UCA.
I demand results for the money paid or at least a coach who is respected by his actions and I also demand mine and the majority of Razorback fans voices be heard as well, You make it very clear you could care less about the typical fan or the continued decline of our once proud athletic program. You allow a lair and man with lowest character I know to continue to bring our football program to the front pages of every national publication and be the laughing stock of everyone.
Do the right thing and seek Heaths resignation today. Then take a real hard look at the person running our football program as well.
Thank you for taking the time to read this even though I know you didnt.  Its a common fact you do not read emails from the common season ticket buying fans.



He wont read it but I just sent my two cents worth to him

Squeals,

You need to learn how to quit sugar coating things and just tell guys like White how you really feel.  This is no time to be speaking in riddles.
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LOL!!

Great letter!!  I hope someone up there reads it and begins to fathom how absolutely pathetic we've become and quit relying on the daily dose of saccharin & slop on the afternoon airwaves.

+1

just imagine if everyone reading this sent a letter to jw... surely now they are taking into consideratino our voices are they not??

[kawabiker]

Becoming a doormat so fast really messes you up!

[HognotinMemphis]

Forget that we won an NC 13 years ago because we have the potential to be only 8th or 9th in the SEC due to size of the state. Just can't compete with those hugely populated states like KY, Fla and GA. I think KY has 6 or 7 times the population of Arkansas.

[DeltaBoy]

I just    when I read the chart!  CAN STAN Today!!!!!

[The Lemming]

Gee that has some affiliation/resemblance to a LADDER!

[RazorBassin]

I would rather not seen that statistic.

[hawgdog2005]

Trying using the same mentality for HDN and look how good that jerk looks  Go to SI.com and vote to fire Houston Nutt.  Oh by the way dont forget to email J White about getting rid of HDN also

[jbcarol]

Forget that we won an NC 13 years ago because we have the potential to be only 8th or 9th in the SEC due to size of the state. Just can't compete with those hugely populated states like KY, Fla and GA. I think KY has 6 or 7 times the population of Arkansas.

  The complaint in that Commonwealth (KY) is that the State Universities aren't tapping into that huge population base

All KY HS team not currently playing for a state University who graduated HS in the last few years:  Lofton, Doellman, Neltner, Rondo (played at Eastern b/4 going to Oak Hill for Sr. year), Walker (played at Rose Hill Academy b/4 moving with Mayo to No. College Hill).

[Silver Hog]

Why do we get the pink bar?

Because the ladders already called the green.