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fu-man-soo

i had a chat with a big aggie booster this weekend.  i jokingly said don't get mad when we steal gillespie after this season.  his response was "i talked about that with our president this week, we are prepared to do what it takes to keep him" i asked if he thought they would get in a bidding war with us and he said he sure thought they would.

for what its worth..

dotnet

It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

 

Oliver

Comparing Coach K to Gillespie is a bit much.  We have a better chance at getting somebody to leave Texas A&M than to leave Duke (when talking about college basketball of course).  If we don't get rid of Nutt, then in order to show me that our athletic department is changing the way it does things...we better offer a lot of money to somebody like Billy Gillespie to replace Heath.  We need a proven coach in at least one of our two major sports and I think we have a better chance of landing that coach in basketball.

jamie72921

Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

Calapari is a creep.

Let me get this straight. I guy that has coached at basketball powerhouses UTEP and Texas A&M wouldn't even consider Arkansas?

You guys can't be serious. I am not saying that we would pay what it would take, but get real.

First things first, Gillispie has yet to go to the final four. All he has really done is win in places that don't generally do that. An accomplishment for sure, but hardly reason to consider him in the elite coaching ranks.

For crying out loud, it's not like the state of Texas doesn't have enough talent to keep 4 teams at the highest level of D1 basketball if those schools ever made the commitment.

Gillespie may some day actually accomplish something special. But he has not yet done so.
Bless your heart

Boner

Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 09:24:57 am
Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

Calapari is a creep.

Let me get this straight. I guy that has coached at basketball powerhouses UTEP and Texas A&M wouldn't even consider Arkansas?

You guys can't be serious. I am not saying that we would pay what it would take, but get real.

First things first, Gillispie has yet to go to the final four. All he has really done is win in places that don't generally do that. An accomplishment for sure, but hardly reason to consider him in the elite coaching ranks.

For crying out loud, it's not like the state of Texas doesn't have enough talent to keep 4 teams at the highest level of D1 basketball if those schools ever made the commitment.

Gillespie may some day actually accomplish something special. But he has not yet done so.

He turned down Indiana last year.  And that's a better job than Arkansas.

jamie72921

Quote from: Boner on February 19, 2007, 10:16:30 am

He turned down Indiana last year.  And that's a better job than Arkansas.

That makes him accomplished?

Indiana hasn't been a better job for a while by the way. Indiana can be summed up in 2 words.

Bob Knight.
Bless your heart

MrsPiggy

A&M doesn't have the boosters that we do nor do I think it has the cash that the RF does.  We only have the largest corporation in our backyard and you can't spell "Bud Walton Arena" without it

We've all said that Broyles tends to be "cheap" when hiring coaches...I think the boosters will/can overrule that now and will throw big $$$ at the next coach(es) (wishful thinking on the plural!)

fu-man-soo

Quote from: MrsPiggy on February 19, 2007, 10:26:51 am
A&M doesn't have the boosters that we do nor do I think it has the cash that the RF does.  We only have the largest corporation in our backyard and you can't spell "Bud Walton Arena" without it

We've all said that Broyles tends to be "cheap" when hiring coaches...I think the boosters will/can overrule that now and will throw big $$$ at the next coach(es) (wishful thinking on the plural!)

a&m has plenty of boosters. 

Apathy


As a sidebar to this conversation, A&M now has 14 committments for the class of 2008, we have 1.  Wouldn't it be exciting to get a coach who has an organized, efficient recruiting process; perhaps is even "ahead of the curve" in the recruiting department?

yomomma loves the hogs

i love the hogs...but i live and breathe aggie athletics.  please no disrespect, BCG isnt coming to arkansas.  indiana approached him twice, he wouldnt even speak to them, both times.  a&m has PLENTY of boosters with plenty of money to throw at BCG to keep him to stay.  he is wonderful at recruiting in texas due to his history caoching in high schools.  there has been plenty of talk about throwing insane amount of money toward him and the AD bill byrne has made comments in his weekly blog that that was in the works.  they are spending huge money on brand new facilities for the basketball team.  just dont see him leaving, sorry.

HogTies

What has Gillespie done?  Had one good year so far and if they have a first round exit out of the NCAA... do you still want to through these big dollars at him?  Talk about his commitments... quality over quantity and it sures sounds like he has to be lying to a couple of those kids!  Heath could out recruit this guy anyday... lets just think about the team he had put together!  Brewer running the point, Weems a slashing athletic 2 guard, and Bev popping 3s behind set screens... with a great and deep frontline!  Thats what he had in mind but can't help that Brewer left early after he promised he wouldn't!  We still have a good back court, they are just inexperienced at guard play... next year they won't be and we will win the SEC!  Have another stellar recruiting class coming in and Heath could makes us what we were before you guys wanted to fire Nolan!

Hong Kong Sooey

Quote from: fu-man-soo on February 19, 2007, 10:28:33 am
Quote from: MrsPiggy on February 19, 2007, 10:26:51 am
A&M doesn't have the boosters that we do nor do I think it has the cash that the RF does.  We only have the largest corporation in our backyard and you can't spell "Bud Walton Arena" without it

We've all said that Broyles tends to be "cheap" when hiring coaches...I think the boosters will/can overrule that now and will throw big $$$ at the next coach(es) (wishful thinking on the plural!)

a&m has plenty of boosters. 
And plenty of money.  Every lumber company, oil company, and utility company has a few Ags in the upper reaches of the management.  Money is NOT an issue for the Ags.

fu-man-soo

Quote from: Hong Kong Sooey on February 19, 2007, 11:08:43 am
Quote from: fu-man-soo on February 19, 2007, 10:28:33 am
Quote from: MrsPiggy on February 19, 2007, 10:26:51 am
A&M doesn't have the boosters that we do nor do I think it has the cash that the RF does.  We only have the largest corporation in our backyard and you can't spell "Bud Walton Arena" without it

We've all said that Broyles tends to be "cheap" when hiring coaches...I think the boosters will/can overrule that now and will throw big $$$ at the next coach(es) (wishful thinking on the plural!)

a&m has plenty of boosters. 
And plenty of money.  Every lumber company, oil company, and utility company has a few Ags in the upper reaches of the management.  Money is NOT an issue for the Ags.

correct

 

Hong Kong Sooey

Quote from: HogTies on February 19, 2007, 11:02:15 am
What has Gillespie done?  Had one good year so far and if they have a first round exit out of the NCAA... do you still want to through these big dollars at him?  Talk about his commitments... quality over quantity and it sures sounds like he has to be lying to a couple of those kids!  Heath could out recruit this guy anyday... lets just think about the team he had put together!  Brewer running the point, Weems a slashing athletic 2 guard, and Bev popping 3s behind set screens... with a great and deep frontline!  Thats what he had in mind but can't help that Brewer left early after he promised he wouldn't!  We still have a good back court, they are just inexperienced at guard play... next year they won't be and we will win the SEC!  Have another stellar recruiting class coming in and Heath could makes us what we were before you guys wanted to fire Nolan!
Ramona?  I didn't know you read Hogville...

markmchog

Quote from: MrsPiggy on February 19, 2007, 10:26:51 am
A&M doesn't have the boosters that we do nor do I think it has the cash that the RF does.  We only have the largest corporation in our backyard and you can't spell "Bud Walton Arena" without it

We've all said that Broyles tends to be "cheap" when hiring coaches...I think the boosters will/can overrule that now and will throw big $$$ at the next coach(es) (wishful thinking on the plural!)

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polandhog

Quote from: Hong Kong SooeyRamona?  I didn't know you read Hogville...

I would lay off her... she seems to have taken more than her share of lumps.  I witnessed these idiot redneck types at the Florida game last year bashing her and saying racist things to stan... and she kept her mouth shut.  they were cussing out stan, all game long, and she kept her mouth shut.

finally, they said the wrong word and she turned around and let em have it, she said 'thats my husband, you know thats my husband, you have done this all year, whether we are winning or losing, please dont say those things in front of me or my children'

and the rednecks cussed her out

that was the 'incident' that everyone always talks about, and it wasnt her fault, not even 5%.

if i was her i would hate everyone in this state from the treatment she gets.


allyoucaneatbuffet

Quote from: polandhog on February 19, 2007, 11:30:47 am
Quote from: Hong Kong SooeyRamona?  I didn't know you read Hogville...

I would lay off her... she seems to have taken more than her share of lumps.  I witnessed these idiot redneck types at the Florida game last year bashing her and saying racist things to stan... and she kept her mouth shut.  they were cussing out stan, all game long, and she kept her mouth shut.

finally, they said the wrong word and she turned around and let em have it, she said 'thats my husband, you know thats my husband, you have done this all year, whether we are winning or losing, please dont say those things in front of me or my children'

and the rednecks cussed her out

that was the 'incident' that everyone always talks about, and it wasnt her fault, not even 5%.

if i was her i would hate everyone in this state from the treatment she gets.



i have heard this as well...

little pigee

Quote from: polandhog on February 19, 2007, 11:30:47 am
Quote from: Hong Kong SooeyRamona?  I didn't know you read Hogville...

I would lay off her... she seems to have taken more than her share of lumps.  I witnessed these idiot redneck types at the Florida game last year bashing her and saying racist things to stan... and she kept her mouth shut.  they were cussing out stan, all game long, and she kept her mouth shut.

finally, they said the wrong word and she turned around and let em have it, she said 'thats my husband, you know thats my husband, you have done this all year, whether we are winning or losing, please dont say those things in front of me or my children'

and the rednecks cussed her out

that was the 'incident' that everyone always talks about, and it wasnt her fault, not even 5%.

if i was her i would hate everyone in this state from the treatment she gets.


This was in Fayetteville?  Were there no Humans to take the scum out, or at least call the law.  That sounds like it is OUR fault, at least if we were witness to it.  All the name-calling on here is in fun (I assume), but we can't allow that type of thing to go on.  What's next, kicking the kids if someone misses a layup?
It's not about the money...it's about the amount of money.

TMc

A&M has more boosters and money than you think.  I have read before, Gillespie is from Texas, and their boosters will not let him get away.  I doubt he is a real possibility.

LR Hog

Gillespie's resume reeks of everything TEXASS.  He is at home there.  We would have to seriously pay this guy to get him here. 

EDUCATION
Texas State, 1983 (B.A. in Education)

COACHING CAREER
1982-85: Texas State, graduate assistant
1985-87: Killeen (Texas) HS, assistant coach
1987-88: Copperas Cove (Texas) HS, head coach
1988-90: New Braunfels (Texas) Canyon HS, head coach
1990-93: Killeen (Texas) Ellison HS, head coach
1993-94: South Plains JC, assistant coach/recruiting coordinator
1994-97: Baylor, assistant coach/recruiting coordinator
1997-00: Tulsa, assistant coach
2000-02: Illinois, assistant coach, recruiting coordinator
2002-04: UTEP, head coach
2004-: Texas A&M, head coach

Like a boss.

cmakrzrbak

Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

I don't want that scumbag within 200 miles of Fayetteville.  Please, for the love of all that is sacred, reneg your last statement.  We don't want Don Cheat anywhere near our program.  He is among the most hated men in all of NCAA athletics.
"You've got to give a little love to those who love to live"

Philip Lynott

fu-man-soo

the governor of tx adressed aggie basketball in his state of the state this year, he is the biggest aggie fan of them all

chillinhoggie

Quote from: Boner on February 19, 2007, 10:16:30 am
Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 09:24:57 am
Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

Calapari is a creep.

Let me get this straight. I guy that has coached at basketball powerhouses UTEP and Texas A&M wouldn't even consider Arkansas?

You guys can't be serious. I am not saying that we would pay what it would take, but get real.

First things first, Gillispie has yet to go to the final four. All he has really done is win in places that don't generally do that. An accomplishment for sure, but hardly reason to consider him in the elite coaching ranks.

For crying out loud, it's not like the state of Texas doesn't have enough talent to keep 4 teams at the highest level of D1 basketball if those schools ever made the commitment.

Gillespie may some day actually accomplish something special. But he has not yet done so.
He turned down Indiana last year.  And that's a better job than Arkansas.
Indiana's a mess... not even close to being the job it once was
Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?
You think Fans hate the coaches we have on the hill NOW ????  bring in Calipari...

polandhog

Quote from: little pigee on February 19, 2007, 12:49:10 pm
Quote from: polandhog on February 19, 2007, 11:30:47 am
Quote from: Hong Kong SooeyRamona?  I didn't know you read Hogville...

I would lay off her... she seems to have taken more than her share of lumps.  I witnessed these idiot redneck types at the Florida game last year bashing her and saying racist things to stan... and she kept her mouth shut.  they were cussing out stan, all game long, and she kept her mouth shut.

finally, they said the wrong word and she turned around and let em have it, she said 'thats my husband, you know thats my husband, you have done this all year, whether we are winning or losing, please dont say those things in front of me or my children'

and the rednecks cussed her out

that was the 'incident' that everyone always talks about, and it wasnt her fault, not even 5%.

if i was her i would hate everyone in this state from the treatment she gets.


This was in Fayetteville?  Were there no Humans to take the scum out, or at least call the law.  That sounds like it is OUR fault, at least if we were witness to it.  All the name-calling on here is in fun (I assume), but we can't allow that type of thing to go on.  What's next, kicking the kids if someone misses a layup?

eventually the security guards 'escorted' them out, but this was just during 1 game and i've seen & heard them do it many games all last year.

some pepole would tell them to shut up but really what can you do?  start a fight?  get the super nice elderly woman usher to body slam them?

 

LR Hog

BOB HUGGINS!!!  DWIs and all!  This guy is a crazy recruiter.  He is getting the top players in the nation to go to Kansas State.
Like a boss.

rfen

Gillespie has a better chance leaving A&M then the U of A getting any other top notch coach.  I attended UTEP when he led them to the first final four since the 64 championship team, and after a season like that he up and left for A&M.  He is having an exceptional season with the Aggies, but don't think that he won't leave just to see if he can turn things around at another college so it will look good on his resume. 

jamie72921

Quote from: LR Hog on February 19, 2007, 01:33:16 pm
BOB HUGGINS!!!  DWIs and all!  This guy is a crazy recruiter.  He is getting the top players in the nation to go to Kansas State.

The magic eight ball says there will be probation in their future.
Bless your heart

rfen

Or...I know I have some supporters on this one.  Bobby Knight.  yea yeah. lol

jamie72921

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:36:17 pm
Gillespie has a better chance leaving A&M then the U of A getting any other top notch coach.  I attended UTEP when he led them to the first final four since the 64 championship team, and after a season like that he up and left for A&M.  He is having an exceptional season with the Aggies, but don't think that he won't leave just to see if he can turn things around at another college so it will look good on his resume. 

UTEP has been in the final four?
Bless your heart

polandhog

Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 01:37:29 pm
Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:36:17 pm
Gillespie has a better chance leaving A&M then the U of A getting any other top notch coach.  I attended UTEP when he led them to the first final four since the 64 championship team, and after a season like that he up and left for A&M.  He is having an exceptional season with the Aggies, but don't think that he won't leave just to see if he can turn things around at another college so it will look good on his resume. 

UTEP has been in the final four?

they won it in 1966.  the famous all black starters vs all white starters

jamie72921

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:37:17 pm
Or...I know I have some supporters on this one.  Bobby Knight.  yea yeah. lol

I'd be all in on that one. Guaranteed not to be boring.
Bless your heart

rfen

my bad, i meant to say the ncaa tourney.  I lost my mind there for a minute.  however, he did only loose by 2 points to the very strong maryland team

jamie72921

Quote from: polandhog on February 19, 2007, 01:38:40 pm
Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 01:37:29 pm
Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:36:17 pm
Gillespie has a better chance leaving A&M then the U of A getting any other top notch coach.  I attended UTEP when he led them to the first final four since the 64 championship team, and after a season like that he up and left for A&M.  He is having an exceptional season with the Aggies, but don't think that he won't leave just to see if he can turn things around at another college so it will look good on his resume. 

UTEP has been in the final four?

they won it in 1966.  the famous all black starters vs all white starters

I thought that was Texas Western. I didn't know that they had been back since they changed their name.
Bless your heart

jamie72921

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:39:15 pm
my bad, i meant to say the ncaa tourney.  I lost my mind there for a minute.  however, he did only loose by 2 points to the very strong maryland team

That's cool.

I told everyone here that Corliss won the Naismith award when I meant the Tournament MVP.

It happens.
Bless your heart

polandhog

Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 01:39:50 pm
Quote from: polandhog on February 19, 2007, 01:38:40 pm
Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 01:37:29 pm
Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 01:36:17 pm
Gillespie has a better chance leaving A&M then the U of A getting any other top notch coach.  I attended UTEP when he led them to the first final four since the 64 championship team, and after a season like that he up and left for A&M.  He is having an exceptional season with the Aggies, but don't think that he won't leave just to see if he can turn things around at another college so it will look good on his resume. 

UTEP has been in the final four?

they won it in 1966.  the famous all black starters vs all white starters

I thought that was Texas Western. I didn't know that they had been back since they changed their name.

well it was tw, but still the same school... i think oklahoma state counts the championships won as "oklahoma a&m", and missouri state counts the Sweet 16 won under "SW Missouri state"

rfen

it was texas western, now utep, but they made the touney with gillespie's first or second year there.  Again, it was 66 not 64.  I'm just a young pup.  I don't remember the dates that well.

jamie72921

Poland,

I knew what you meant. I also know that they beat Kentucky, specifically Rupp's Runts. Pat Riley played in that game. Texas Western was coached by Don Haskins, Nolan's college coach and alma matre, and that they only lost one game all season.
Bless your heart

Ross U (HDHF)

Quote from: cmakrzrbak on February 19, 2007, 01:15:31 pm
Quote from: dotnet on February 19, 2007, 08:50:14 am
It is widely known that what you said is a fact.  That is why I don't understand why people throw his name around like he would just come to Arkansas.  Why don't people just say we should get coach K to come?

This might be along the same lines, but is there any way Calapari (spelling?) would come from Memphis?

I don't want that scumbag within 200 miles of Fayetteville.  Please, for the love of all that is sacred, reneg your last statement.  We don't want Don Cheat anywhere near our program.  He is among the most hated men in all of NCAA athletics.

Thank you sir.  I don't want someone who thinks that we aren't a "good enough" program to play Memphis in the non-conf schedule.  I hate his teams.

rfen

With the Gillespie scenario almost being played out, what do you think about Coach Mark Few (Gonzaga)?  He hasn't had the greatest season this year and for some reason I don't think he will have as much talent as he has had in the past (Dickau, Morrison).  It might be time that Gonzaga looks for another coach.  What do you think about Few as the Razorback coach?

mbgrulz

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 02:08:58 pm
With the Gillespie scenario almost being played out, what do you think about Coach Mark Few (Gonzaga)?  He hasn't had the greatest season this year and for some reason I don't think he will have as much talent as he has had in the past (Dickau, Morrison).  It might be time that Gonzaga looks for another coach.  What do you think about Few as the Razorback coach?
Played out? that is a pretty weak fight that we put up to get BG. if that is all the resilliance we have, then no way do we pull a coach away from somebody.

As for Few, that would be a great pickup. please remember that out west, he competes with UCLA, Oregon, Washington, etc...for recruits. he battles the big boys and wins a lot of the time. dickau and morrison we're both 3 star recruits, and he has a couple of top 100 guys committed for the 07 class. he will get the talent, and he will develop it when he gets it.

i do think that a part of few wants to get into a big time conference and try his hand. beating pepperdine year in and year out gets kinda lame, and putting him with SEC caliber talent, may take him to the next level, which would be a NC. we could definately out-bid the Zags, and our great fly fishing at bull shoals and beaver dams would make Fayetteville very attractive to him, but i dont have a good feeling about our chances at getting him.


mbgrulz

Quote from: jamie72921 on February 19, 2007, 09:24:57 am
First things first, Gillispie has yet to go to the final four. All he has really done is win in places that don't generally do that. An accomplishment for sure, but hardly reason to consider him in the elite coaching ranks.

For crying out loud, it's not like the state of Texas doesn't have enough talent to keep 4 teams at the highest level of D1 basketball if those schools ever made the commitment.

Gillespie may some day actually accomplish something special. But he has not yet done so.
and when he does meet your criteria of "acomplishing something" he will be locked in to a contract that would be impossible to buyout, and he'd have recruiting built up so good, that he'd have no reason to every want to move.

by your standards, the george mason coach would be more desireable than BG. while the GM coach is a good one, it doesnt take 23 years of watching basketball to figure out that BG is getting a helluva lot outta that aTm team. they play defense better than anyone i've seen in a while, and if we could put him with our talent he'd have us in the NCAAT as a 1 or 2 seed.

rfen

The Gillespie thing is played out, seriously.  If Arkansas was to get a new coach don't you think it would have to come from a lower, not so strong conference?  Don't get me wrong, Gillespie left Tulsa for UTEP and then on to A&M.  He very well could leave and go somewhere else.  But I agree with you on the idea that Few would be a great pickup solely on the fact that he can turn 3 star recruits into national icons.  In this case, since the recruiting class for the UofA has never been that great, and we have never really had a coach who can work with less than average athletes, Few would be a nice candidate.

jamie72921

February 19, 2007, 02:38:41 pm #42 Last Edit: February 19, 2007, 02:42:23 pm by jamie72921
Quote from: mbgrulz on February 19, 2007, 02:29:46 pm
and when he does meet your criteria of "acomplishing something" he will be locked in to a contract that would be impossible to buyout, and he'd have recruiting built up so good, that he'd have no reason to every want to move.

by your standards, the george mason coach would be more desireable than BG. while the GM coach is a good one, it doesnt take 23 years of watching basketball to figure out that BG is getting a helluva lot outta that aTm team. they play defense better than anyone i've seen in a while, and if we could put him with our talent he'd have us in the NCAAT as a 1 or 2 seed.

Here is why accomplishments matter.

Until you are accomplished, you have been allowed to sneak up on people. Lot's of coaches have made it to the level Gillispie is at today.

It's not until you've worn that bullseye and taken people's best efforts on that you have actually accomplished anything.

Both UTEP and A&M are schools that noone has had respect for in quite some time. Let's see how they do after the bullseye is on him and instead of getting looked past, they aren't taking everyone they play's best shot yet.

That is what I am talking about. Talk all you want, Gillispie hasn't done that yet. He is still a pig in a poke until he does.
Bless your heart

rfen

Is arkansas not one of these basketball teams that have not had any respect in quite some time.  I mean, even when they won the NC, people still didn't give them the respect they deserved.

jamie72921

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 02:43:18 pm
Is arkansas not one of these basketball teams that have not had any respect in quite some time.  I mean, even when they won the NC, people still didn't give them the respect they deserved.

Are you kidding?

We started getting everyone's best shot for years after that.

My gosh, we became Ole Miss' Superbowl. Same for every other team in the league, except maybe Kentucky. You should have seen it when LSU finally beat us.

Do we command that right now today? No.

Just watch what happens when we do climb the ladder again. Other teams still think its something to win a game at the Bud and it hasn't been a pit for awhile now.
Bless your heart

rfen

It's hard to climb a ladder if you keep breaking the supports for the ladder.  Why is it that the hogs play well against the good teams and then play down to the poop shoot teams?  I don't understand how we get so much "respect" for being the "red headed step child of the SEC".  Teams want a win, who do they play?  U of A

jamie72921

Quote from: rfen on February 19, 2007, 02:57:22 pm
It's hard to climb a ladder if you keep breaking the supports for the ladder.  Why is it that the hogs play well against the good teams and then play down to the poop shoot teams?  I don't understand how we get so much "respect" for being the "red headed step child of the SEC".  Teams want a win, who do they play?  U of A

This was the mistake both Frank and the "committee" made in hiring Heath. They brought in an up and comer to try and take care of a program that hasn't flown under anyone's radar for the last 30 years. Retarded, if you ask me.

Don't worry, if Heath doesn't turn it around soon, the rest of the basketball world will begin to see us as totally inept and completely forget about us.

I know some of our own believe this of us already, but it is not an accurate assesment.

Georgia, Ole Miss, Alabama, LSU all still think a win over us is a big deal. Even with Heath as our coach. With a 6-31 Sec road record even.

We need a proven commodity for coach, not another up and comer. Someone who has had sustained success in a power conference.

I would like the guy at Washington if he hadn't fallen down this season.
Bless your heart

wacohog

I live in central Tx and have been hearing about the
"sleeping giant" that is A&M for decades.  They don't have much to show for all of their BS....where is the BIG 12 or NCAA hardware in FB, BB, etc.  A&M defines itself primarily in FB...esp the Texas game.  Hell,  even the fightsongs seem to be about UT.

Sure they have money,  but they have no BB history or national prestige.  Nobody down here gives a damn about Aggie BB...even my LEGIONS of Aggie buddies.

WE can't outspend A&M,  but we can offer a better job with more prestige in a better conference(usually.)

I don't have one Aggie bud that thinks they will keep him....not one.  They all think that he will stay until he gets a bigtime position.  Maybe we offer him that chance; at least we try.

The idea that we shouldn't even try for him is just plain sorry. Ask bama...

You guys shouldn't waste your time on Aggie propaganda.  They are good people by and large,  it is a good school...good but not great in athletics.

slowride

Maybe we could get Phil Jackson to leave the Lakers.  You guys are dreaming.

slowride

Quote from: LR Hog on February 19, 2007, 01:10:33 pm
Gillespie's resume reeks of everything TEXASS.  He is at home there.  We would have to seriously pay this guy to get him here. 

EDUCATION
Texas State, 1983 (B.A. in Education)

COACHING CAREER
1982-85: Texas State, graduate assistant
1985-87: Killeen (Texas) HS, assistant coach
1987-88: Copperas Cove (Texas) HS, head coach
1988-90: New Braunfels (Texas) Canyon HS, head coach
1990-93: Killeen (Texas) Ellison HS, head coach
1993-94: South Plains JC, assistant coach/recruiting coordinator
1994-97: Baylor, assistant coach/recruiting coordinator
1997-00: Tulsa, assistant coach
2000-02: Illinois, assistant coach, recruiting coordinator
2002-04: UTEP, head coach
2004-: Texas A&M, head coach

Maybe instead of trying to take a coach from another state we should look at who has been successful at some of the colleges in Arkansas.  We would be able to afford them.