DOC SADLER

[Squealsonwheels]

Gotta love anyone named "Doc"  Milburn Stone was great...How about a coach named Festus?  Never mind   He coaches our football team.  Golly bill Frank..These here fans are fixin to put a whoopin on us.   Im sorry this soap opera is starting to get to me

[NMHog]

My next post is same as my first.

Reggie Theus here at New Mexico State...

[ArchitectHog]

DOC sucks.  He will not be able to compete in the SEC.

Doc Sadler is a great coach and good all round person.  He was the A.D. and head BB coach @ UAFS when i played baseball there.  Just knowing the type of person that he was around his players, and all the athletes there at that time, he would be a great coach for the S.E.C. He loves to compete and takes his job very serioulsy.  Why do you think that he wouldnt be able to compete?

[mattfromhuntsville]

Doc, would be a GREAT choice

[Lt. Caffey]

Should there be a vacancy at Arkansas, Doc Sadler would be the first guy I'd talk to to take the job. Come on, the guy's won everywhere he's been. He continued a storied winning tradition at County Line, was an assistant on successful teams at Texas Tech and returned a UAFS (then Westark) program back to prominence after a lean stretch in the early 90s that saw the chancellor cancel the later part of a season because of off-the-court problems. He took UAFS to back-to-back national Juco tournaments and helped re-establish it as one of the premier, all-around junior college programs in the nation.
That said, his D-I record speaks for itself.
He had success at UTEP and now at Nebraska, he's winning with guys that are much smaller and less talented — with the exception of Maric — than the rest of his competitors. Yes, it is true. He is doing much more with less.
Nebraska only lost to Texas by one point, and the Longhorns have one of the top freshman in the nation and a surefire lotter pick in next year's NBA draft.
Doc's a disciplinarian that won't tolerate much BS, like lack of hustle, excuses, attitudes, etc. I've witnessed it first hand. As they said on the Nebraska-Colorado broadcast the other night, the motto in Nebraska is "No excuses!"
"If" Arkansas finds itself needing a new coach, it would be wise to schedule an appointment with the D-O-C, pal.

[Biggus Piggus]

My only concern with Sadler would be whether he could recruit right off the bat.  I very much doubt he would lose any major in-state talent.  Where he would go for talent first, unsure.  It's tough for a coach who has changed zip codes frequently over a short period.  Doc needs a few years at Nebraska before he goes off to another job.

[Lt. Caffey]

There's no need for people to worry about Doc recruiting players. That's the whole key to junior college basketball. Sure, you've got to be a good coach to be successful, but you could be John Wooden and if you don't have the hosses, you're not going to win. If anything, Doc's extensive Juco background makes him a perfect would-be candidate for the job. The guy knows everybody in the business and has enough connections to get the players he needs.
Doc is a tireless recruitor, as is his assistant David Anwar. I visited with him last year on a stop at Fort Smith, and he had coached at Marshall on Saturday night, drove to somewhere in North Carolina to scout a player on Sunday, flew into Tulsa early Monday morning, scouted UAFS that night, left the next morning to fly to Florida to scout some players down there.
There are many more positives with Doc.
He should have been an assistant at Arkansas after Eddie's departure, but, as many accounts say, he was left high and dry when Nolan took over.
He's got the ties, the background and the expertise. Plus, he's got a demeanor that everybody loves. He can schmooze with millionaires and paupers the same and there's absolutely nothing phony about him. He remembers where he came from and has never forgotten it. That's why when returns to Fort Smith, it's as though the president had walked in ... only Doc's approval rating is about three-times better

[Mister_BS]

Glad to hear that Doc hasn't changed since I first met him in 1976. I haven't seen him since 1985, I think, but was glad to see his success at various stops and to realize that he was highly regarded by James Dickey, Billy Gillespie, etc. I thought he was an up-and-comer as a g.a. for Eddie.

I smiled when reading how Doc is accepted when he returns to Fort Smith. Doc comes from a terrific family, a coach's family.

BTW, I used him mercilessly in pickup games!

[seqco]

Southern Illinois coach is Chris Lowery would be a good choice, I don't know if he would leave his alma mater, SIU as of today is a just as good a program as Stan Heath's Arkansas is right now.

I would like to see Doc, but I would like to mention Jeremy Cox I think he is a great coach he is down at A&M with Billy Gillespie, I don't know who would take the Hog job that is already at a similiar BCS league school.

[elksnort]

I noticed in an old Basketball press guide that there was a Doc Saddler as a manager for one of the old Razorback teams. Is this the same guy?

[Lt. Caffey]

Yah, Doc was a manager while going to college there, but he was later a Grad Assistant there, and as was mentioned earlier, was to be an assistant when Eddie left, but got hung out to dry when Nolan brought in his own people.

[Space Man]

Southern Illinois coach is Chris Lowery would be a good choice, I don't know if he would leave his alma mater, SIU as of today is a just as good a program as Stan Heath's Arkansas is right now.

I would like to see Doc, but I would like to mention Jeremy Cox I think he is a great coach he is down at A&M with Billy Gillespie, I don't know who would take the Hog job that is already at a similiar BCS league school.

I believe Chris Lowery would leave for the pay increase, and he would have the opportunity to become a coaching legend.  Lowery has continued to get SIU in the tournament, and I believe more times than Doc Sadler did with UTEP.  I know that he has not been at SIU long, but I feel like he would be a better option for UA.   

[BRC0180]

Chris Lowery would have one of the same problems as Coach Heath:  Can't recruit in the south.  Why do you think Glenn Cyprien was hired?  We have yankees on this staff that can't recruit our region.  for you all:  What coach could you get to the UofA that could recruit Tulsa/okc, Memphis, Chicago, Dallas? 
Self:  Ain't coming
Gillespie:  Won't talk to us except to recommend:
Doc:  Has recruited those areas HARD and STRONG
Sutton/Dickey:  Already have jobs.

Chris Lowery?  Doing a nice job at SIU, but why has he not been hired at a bigger job?  Peterson could have hired him at Nebraska.  Could have hired Turgeon at Wichita State.  Why did he hire Doc?  Because he knew how tough a job UN basketball is.  He did not need an up and comer.  He needed a hard nosed, recruiting/coaching sob.  And that is what he has in DOC.  Getting 10,000 fans at a Nebraska Basketball game is like putting 20,000 in BWA with 2,000 waiting in line outside to get in.

[Arkiejared]

How old is he?

[WilsonHog]

"Bill Self ain't coming."

"Billy Gillespie ain't coming."

"Tubby Smith ain't coming."

Geez, no wonder we can't get anybody. Our own fans think our job isn't a worthy one.

I wonder......what do you think would happen if (assuming there was a vacancy), our AD (or his gaurdian ad litem) called Bill Self and said, "Bill we'd like you to coach at Arkansas. Here's how badly. Take whatever you're making now and add $1,000,000 a year to it."

Reckon what Bill would say?

You know what you do if you want someone bad enough? Simple.

YOU BUY THEM.

[NuttinItUp]

I like ol' Doc

[tvhogs1]

I thought Doc was excellent on Gunsmoke.

[Hogpuddin]

Totally agree.

*Editors note:  Doc's brother Pedro was my coach at Ramsey Junior High.

Doc Coached at County Line back in the day.  He is successful everywhere that he has been.

[bringeddieback]

Doc would be great for the University of Arkansas!!!! But how about Bringing Eddie Back?

[BRC0180]

"Bill Self ain't coming."

"Billy Gillespie ain't coming."

"Tubby Smith ain't coming."

Geez, no wonder we can't get anybody. Our own fans think our job isn't a worthy one.

I wonder......what do you think would happen if (assuming there was a vacancy), our AD (or his gaurdian ad litem) called Bill Self and said, "Bill we'd like you to coach at Arkansas. Here's how badly. Take whatever you're making now and add $1,000,000 a year to it."

Reckon what Bill would say?

You know what you do if you want someone bad enough? Simple.

YOU BUY THEM.

Direct quote from A&M's AD:  "If BG leaves A&M it will not be for money, resources, committment."  He is home.  A Texas guy.  A&M is a better job right now than UA.  He has better players, better recruits coming.  He could leave for another job, maybe Texas.  Can't see that happening. 

Bill Self:  Is at The University of Kansas, genius.  One of the top 5 jobs in college basketball.  He has better players, better recruits. 

Tubby:  (although I personally have always liked TS) At this stage I am not convinced he is a great hire.  I mean if you can't win at Kentucky.  The decline of UK basketball from the elite status Pitino left it is evident.

The UofA is definitely one of the top 20 basketball jobs (maybe borderline top 10)
in the country.  You act like I think we can't get a good coach.  Doc is a very good coach.  The same AD that gave Ben Howland (UCLA's head coach) his first big-time job, made Jamie Dixon the Head Coach Designee at Pitt, thought Doc was a good enough coach to get the job done at the equivalent of a basketball morgue like Nebraska.  You may have heard of those guys now.  Nobody knew about Howland and Dixon.  Here is some news for you, you can't hire those guys either.  They are not leaving those jobs for Arkansas.  Your idea to give them 1 millon more than their current job pays, sounds good in theory.  But in reality it is like saying (for example) Jim Tressel, Pete Carrol, Mack Brown, Urban Meyer, Charlie Weiss, are viable candidates for the UA football job if HDN leaves.

Billy Donovan - Not unless he gets fired for running naked on the beach with 3 coeds
Ben Howland - You should talk to my assistant
Bo Ryan - I do not believe in coaching outside the state of Wisconsin
Roy Willams - no smart*ss remark needed
Thad Matta - I am having a hard time recruiting to OSU, I will think about UA
Billy Gillespie - You need to hire Doc Sadler
Ernie Kent - I would take the job (makes me want to wait in line for tix)
Bill Self - You should hire the guy who recommended me to Coach Sutton:  Doc
Jamie Dixon - I am really happy at Pitt, but will use your interest for a raise.
Coach K - See Roy Willams above
Butlers Coach- He would come
Mark Gottfried - Might be available if season continues
Joe Scott - From 40 minutes of Hell  to Princeton Offense (that will fill BWA)
John Calipari - I will need 25% ownership in Wal-Mart to begin serious negotiations
Mark ? (Nevada's HC) - He would come (recruiting in the south? )
Sean Sutton - Sorry but James Anderson said he would not come with me
Oliver Purnell - Would probably take the job if offered
Tony Bennett - Yea, I promise we will play faster than my old man
Lute Olson - See Roy, and Coach K comment
Tom Crean - We could try and get him.  (But everyone else has tried the last 5 yrs)
Mike Brey - How good of a job has he done at Notre Dame?
John Brady - Hell yea I'll take your money (do we really want him)
Seth Greenburg - He would come
Kelvin Sampson - Probably not leaving IU for anything short of UNC job
Tubby Smith - Will probably be available
Tim Floyd - I have a pretty good player coming.  u might have heard of him
Jay Wright - Thanks but I am waiting on the 76ers job
Bruce Pearl - Can I paint my bare chest red and sit with the students at ladybax gms
Lon Kruegar - He will come if we add roulettes at the indian casinos
Northern Iowa's Coach - I am sure he would come
Rick Barnes - Gary Ervin or DJ Augustine?  Tough choice
Tom Izzo - If I can be the OC and CALL MY PLAYS, I will come
Virgina Commenwealths coach - Would love an interview
Chris Lowery - yea I'll take it.
Paul Hewitt - (curious if we could get him interested)
Kevin Stallings - (A real possibility)
Gary Willams - I got 2 more years and I am tenured at Maryland
Al Skinner - (Southern recruiting ties a concern for me)
John Thompson II - Kinda liking carrying on my dads deal here at GTown
Jim Calhoun - The only thing you can understand is my cursing?
John Beilin - (a personal favorite) but doubt he would leave WVU for UA
   Now those are the Coaches of the Top 25/recieving votes list:
Don't forget Mark Few/Gonzaga:  Indiana, UCLA, North Carolina, Kansas could not hire me, but


Sorry for the length

[Space Man]

Chris Lowery would have one of the same problems as Coach Heath:  Can't recruit in the south.  Why do you think Glenn Cyprien was hired?  We have yankees on this staff that can't recruit our region.  for you all:  What coach could you get to the UofA that could recruit Tulsa/okc, Memphis, Chicago, Dallas? 
Self:  Ain't coming
Gillespie:  Won't talk to us except to recommend:
Doc:  Has recruited those areas HARD and STRONG
Sutton/Dickey:  Already have jobs.

Chris Lowery?  Doing a nice job at SIU, but why has he not been hired at a bigger job?  Peterson could have hired him at Nebraska.  Could have hired Turgeon at Wichita State.  Why did he hire Doc?  Because he knew how tough a job UN basketball is.  He did not need an up and comer.  He needed a hard nosed, recruiting/coaching sob.  And that is what he has in DOC.  Getting 10,000 fans at a Nebraska Basketball game is like putting 20,000 in BWA with 2,000 waiting in line outside to get in.

That is absurd.  Stan Heath is an excellent recruiter, and I believe he has stolen a couple players out of Mississippi.  His team plays some of the toughest defense I have seen, which is the epitomy of hard nosed.  Nebraska is a step down from SIU.  They traditionally suck and will continue to, even with Doc at the helm.  I believe Lowery has been to the tournament more than Sadler over the past couple of years.  If Sadler is so great, then why has is he just getting hired at a major school, he is not exactly a spring chicken the last time I checked.  There is no question that Lowery would make mroe sense.   

[Jim Harris]

If there were a change on the hill in men's basketball, this is our guy.
If he were here you:
*would not have lost at South Carolina last night
*would have went from the bus to BWA for practice if you did
*would not have players cussing coaches/walking off

Look at his pedigree, track record.  He almost beat Texas with 1 player and walkons.  Not near the personnel the hogs have.

This is Doc's dream job.  Is loved by HS coaches/Juco coaches in the region.  Would bring toughness back to Hog Hoops.

We can get Doc.  We can't get Self.  Doc has beaten Anderson. Scott Sutton is not the answer.  

South Carolina sux so bad, they just went in and beat Mississippi State in Starkville. None of you people know anything about basketball. You just look at today's results and call it a referendum on Stan Heath.

[Jim Harris]

Gillespie would not leave A&M for the Arkansas job.  Would not even consider it.

right. Staying in Aggieland where basketball will always be third fiddle to football and spring football is his dream job.

[Biggus Piggus]

The only reason why someone would say Gillespie should prefer College Station over Fayetteville (where one actually can win a national title) is they have a vested interest in seeing Doc Sadler get the job.  Let's see Doc recruit some high-major talent first.  Juco recruiting, what a joke.  Completely different.  Can Sadler recruit on a high-major level?  Can he recruit at a place like Fayetteville?  I don't care how hard he works, can he close?  He has not had enough time in any job to prove it, and he's never really even held a high-major job.  Nebraska in basketball, they feel good when they get to the NIT.  If Sadler turns Nebraska into an NCAAT team & gets some impressive talent, then we can say something about his ability to recruit.  As a coach, I'm sure he could take Heath's players and win more games, but Heath's players won't be here much longer.

[Jordan10]

For all of you who want Stan gone and Doc to come coach the Hogs, turn on ESPN......

[Table Rocker]

this is the sadest thing i have seen in quite sometime, i actually feel bad for nebraska.

[Razorod]

Most of us we willing to give Stan a mulligan for his first year at Arkansas--I'd do the same for Sadler in this case, and I'm not even a big Sadler fan.

[Table Rocker]

in case you don't want to turn to espn, KU is up on nebraska 39-6 with 3 minutes remaining in the half at lincoln. NU hasn't had a GF in 13 minutes

[Table Rocker]

Most of us we willing to give Stan a mulligan for his first year at Arkansas--I'd do the same for Sadler in this case, and I'm not even a big Sadler fan.

it never got THIS bad did it? i remember being bad but this might be the worst team performance i've seen in college basketball in some time.

[Table Rocker]

larry the cable guy is in attendnce

[Razorod]

No, I don't think we ever looked that bad. Seriously, there is no talent at Nebraska. Also, Sadler didn't come in until August before the season started. At least Stan was able to nab an Eric Ferguson and Kendrick Davis. But, I'm not going to defend Sadler and there's no way I'd suggest bringing him in at this juncture.

[hawgtahm]

Don't know if anyone is else is seeing this, but Doc's 'Huskers are losing at home to Kansas 43 to 8. No opinion attached, just a heads up.

[DoubleJ]

Sadler is a fine coach, but that doesn't mean I think Stan should be gone just yet.

[Table Rocker]

Don't know if anyone is else is seeing this, but Doc's 'Huskers are losing at home to Kansas 43 to 8. No opinion attached, just a heads up.

a thread was just started about this

[Razorod]

I think if you are a Sadler fan and want to see him at Arkansas, you need to wait at least two more seasons. Best bet with that scenario is for Stan to have some succes, at least this year and next, and then either find another job or fall back to 6-10 after this year's junior class graduates.

[hawgtahm]

ty, Table

[Razorod]

Hey Scott, are you a Sadler fan?

[H-O-double g]

trailing 43-8 at home, I don't care who you, or how you don't have any talent. Nebraska is still a Big 12 school, and you're still at home with 10K plus in the stands. Oral Roberts and Depaul didn't have any problems with Kansas. No excuse! Doc will put up average seasons at Nebraska.

STAN STAYS!!

[football17]

And if you think that this game is an indication of Sadler's coaching ability, then you need to escape from la-la land.

[hawgtahm]

trailing 43-8 at home, I don't care who you, or how you don't have any talent. Nebraska is still a Big 12 school, and you're still at home with 10K plus in the stands. Oral Roberts and Depaul didn't have any problems with Kansas. No excuse! Doc will put up average seasons at Nebraska.

STAN STAYS!!

I'm not a complete Stan basher yet (we're going to have to have a very strong finish or I probably will be), so I agree with you H-O, if the alternative is Doc. He hasn't, IMO, done anything to prove he is worthy of coaching at BWA. If we're going to pull the trigger on Heath, then there are other coaches that I would look at, i.e. Mark Turgeon or even Tubby Smith (assuming the rumors of his impending availability are true).

[geoffhog]

larry the cable guy is in attendnce

Give Doc time, he'll "Git er done". 

[Dwight_K_Shrute]

We made the mistake once to get the latest and greatest after 1 year.  I say give a guy 4 to cycle through a recruiting class to see what he is made of.  With that being said, as bad as Stanley the Manley has been at times i don't think we have ever endured an a$$ kicking of these proportions.

[H-O-double g]

Arkansas will beat Kentucky by 20 on Saturday, and all the Heath Crunchers will still be displeased! That's sad!

[BRC0180]

Doc's playing with basically a NAIA team.  Take away his post player and its a high school team.  Is his team competing, playing hard?  If Doc was coaching the hogs they would probably be 16-5 or better.

[HawgG]

If we're going to pull the trigger on Heath, then there are other coaches that I would look at, i.e. Mark Turgeon or even Tubby Smith (assuming the rumors of his impending availability are true).

Tubby Smith has a hard time recruiting to Kentucky,arguable the most prestigious College Basketball program in the nation.
That is why UK fans complain so much about their program not being where it should always be.

Tubby would very much struggle at Arkansas, very much so.

[SuthrnFballer15]

Stan may not be great or elite but hes gotten us a top 25 recruiting class the last several years and he just needs a break...

[razornole]

what's the man crush for Doc about anyway?

[BRC0180]

If you can't get your players to play hard/compete, you can't coach.

[H-O-double g]

STAN is doing just fine! We will be a top 10 team next year! Remember, Stan's first 2 years dont' count! In my book, the first 2 years never happened! That's how bad the talent was that he was left with! This is only Stan's 3rd year. He's doing fine! The hogs b-ball team will be fine! Save your worry for the football program.

[BRC0180]

I like Coach Heath.  He just has not been able to guarantee that the hogs will play with great passion/effort, every time they touch the floor.  Regardless of your talent level, you can give great effort, if it is demanded of you.  Thats why we all like Doc.  His kids play hard or their is hell to pay.  It is a privaledge to play Division I basketball for the Razorbacks.  Do you think a player at Kansas, A&M, Nebraska, would cuss their coach and walk off the bench?(epecially an underachieving waste of talent that plays hard when he wants to.)  Townes may walk off/cuss Self, Gillespie, Sadler, but he better be doing it on his way to the bus station.  Those 3 coaches would not even put him on a plane, much less the playing floor the next game.