From a Texas board.

[ballz2thewall]

What amazes me is they haven't recruited any stud QB's in several years.  Seems like the other schools in Texas don't have any trouble.  Couple of Heisman winners if my memory is correct.

i have to agree here.  swoopes is certainly not it.  he's terrible at qb.  texas is full of people that can do a decent if not fine job at qb.  hell, they have enough for every D1 school to have one on the roster at some level.

[mutiger91]

Love it!  Texas is a giant bag of suck

They have been for a while.  Karma really sucks.  Deloss Dodds once said that a bad year at Texas was better than a good year at Missouri.  I hope the arrogant pricks choke on their own failure.

[snoblind]

Mind if I steal that an avatar?

[Mulberry Squeezins]

I'd be inclined to say that Texas talent has been overrated in recent history.

Crazy talk.  Tejas High School talent is not overrated.  Still the richest recruiting ground in the nation, and don't see that changing for awhile 

[hogsanity]

i have to agree here.  swoopes is certainly not it.  he's terrible at qb.  texas is full of people that can do a decent if not fine job at qb.  hell, they have enough for every D1 school to have one on the roster at some level.

They never intended for Swoopes to be the man this year. No idea if they would have had a different season had their starter not had to quit football, but they would not have looked like they dd last night.

[ErieHog]

I'd say his assessment is pretty accurate.  I love beating Texas more than anything, but we need to remember that this was probably one of the all-time bad Texas teams that we beat.  They are embarrassing.

They weren't good, but they weren't all-time bad.

Texas is the slightly-better-than Georgia of the Southwest;  a ton of reputation, for comparatively little results.

One title in 45 years; a certified moron brought it to them, and is revered within the state.

Yep.  Georgia West.

[HF#1]

Crazy talk.  Tejas High School talent is not overrated.  Still the richest recruiting ground in the nation, and don't see that changing for awhile 

Volume wise, yes it's very rich.  Talent wise, it's been a mixed bag.  I don't think the talent coming from East Texas (Arkansas territory) is as plentiful as it once was.

[The Boar War]

Put the game in its proper context - this was the equivalent of a mercy killing. 
Would you enjoy Arkansas beating Arkansas State or UCA - because that is about the skill and talent level on display right now in Austin.

Enjoy the win but just keep a slight semblance of context to it...

I won't go so far as to say we beat a good team.  We beat a mid level Big 12 team....badly.  But to imply that Texas' skill level is equal to a team who couldn't win the Sunbelt and an FCS team is misleading and confusing on a day when we should be celebrating.

[pigmailyen]

As I pointed out on another thread, it's hard to understand why they're so bent out of shape.  Their offense averaged nearly 15 yards per quarter.  You just don't see that kind of balance very often. 

[SamBuckhart]

If texas is called for holding on the td run, they probably only get a FG. They were not ready to play from their first two snaps. Motion penalty and call TO to keep from getting delay call. Really bad.

[Wild Bill Hog]

I don't know if they were scared, but I'm certain they were on that slippery slope of almost expecting bad things to happen.  They had watched film.

[Calling All Hogs]

Mind if I steal that an avatar?

I got it off facebook so go for it.

[DeltaBoy]

It was nice to read we are good sports by taking that knee to end the game.

[HogScoutMaster]

It was nice to read we are good sports by taking that knee to end the game.

As bad as I hated seeing that Knee, I guess I have to understand

[carolinahogger]

From Orangebloods (posted by an Aggie):

These announcers sukking off the Texas program are a complete joke. Arkansas is administering one of the biggest beat downs of the bowl season, and all they can say is how great Strong is, how great Malik Jefferson is, etc, Seriously, you've gained 20 yards through 40 minutes of play against the last place SEC West team, and they're pointing to some 18 year old HS kid as evidence for how great Strong is and how bright the future is?

[GuvHog]

Well said.  Coach Strong will remake them into a pro style, power football team they should be.  But they have to find a QB.  Similar to florida over the last few years they have not found and developed a QB because of coaching, injuries, whatever, it just did not happen.  Then they hae to get back to playing power football which will set them apart in Texas as the other schools all play a more wide open type game.  I hope he succeeds and it may help us if they can out recruit A&M again. 

Texas is simply not getting the caliber of players they are used to getting and IMHO it's not likely to get any better. When A&M joined the SEC, I predicted that they would pass the Longhorns and become #1 in recruiting the state of Texas. they've done just that. Recruiting wise, A&M is where the Longhorns used to be and I don't see that changing. Being a member of the SEC has it's advantages

[carolinahogger]

More from Orangebloods:

    Originally posted by 4MNChampsHorn:
    Texas Tech scored 28 against this Razorback team.

Good god, do us all a favor and go buy yourself an aggy shirt. 

And Ol Miss (at one time #1) scored 0
And LSU scored 0.
And Bama scored 14. 

[Hawk]

Leaving Houston last night, I listened to the texass postgame show. Now I don't know how CCS will deal with the politics of UT, but that was once of only a few times I have ever heard a coach talk about getting embarrassed on the field and the lack of ANY pride those players had in anything. He ripped his own team a new one.

I thought it was dead on. At the start of the 4th quarter, their whole bench just looked whupped and ready to call it a night.

[Beaverfever]

I wouldn't have thought I'd ever see a Texas team look like it had no business being on the field with an Arkansas team but that's about what it looked like.  We looked like a decent 7A team playing a decent 5A team.  I don't know how Texas let that happen with their recruiting base. 

[DeltaBoy]

Best short horn post. From http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/154672-I-just-saw-the-worst-football-offense


Yeah, the highlight tonight was the tailgating. And Bevo, that dude did not want to be there. We were sitting right by him and he knocked over the railings a few times trying to get out of there. He was pissed all game, I finally just yelled for them to let him go, since he obviously doesn't want to see this $#@!.

[snoblind]

As bad as I hated seeing that Knee, I guess I have to understand

I agree with Surfing in the post below yours.  2 minutes left, but we are going to start the celebration early and just enjoy that we owned you. 

[tophawg19]

the real problem for Texas is that they have tons of talent but it is mismatched . they recruited well for talent but didn't worry about fit. We wanted a number of their players but lost out. Bet they wish they were hogs now . it's great to have top recruits but when the pieces don't fit together , the puzzle doesn't work.

[Paul]

Crazy talk.  Tejas High School talent is not overrated.  Still the richest recruiting ground in the nation, and don't see that changing for awhile

I'll take FL & LA

[ChicoHog]

They weren't good, but they weren't all-time bad.

Texas is the slightly-better-than Georgia of the Southwest;  a ton of reputation, for comparatively little results.

One title in 45 years; a certified moron brought it to them, and is revered within the state.

Yep.  Georgia West.

So if you don't win a national title then you're not any good?  Listen, I hated Texas for years because they were our arch rival when I was in school.  But they had a lot of good teams.  And mack Brown was a darn good football coach at UNC and at Texas.  Obviously he lost it the last few years but he was a winner for a long time.  Mark Richt is a good coach also.  Have they under achieved?  Maybe, but they have had a lot of good years also.  Only one team ends up on top.  That's another good thing about the bowl system.  You can finish the year on a winning note, feel good about yourself going into next year even if you finish 6-6 for the regular season. 

[DeltaBoy]

http://www.shaggybevo.com/board/showthread.php/153872-Texas-accepts-bid-to-Texas-Bow-in-Houston/page29

They wanted TAMU, didn't show up between the Ears and got rolled. They really thought they were going to Win.

[KennyForAD]

Crazy talk.  Tejas High School talent is not overrated.  Still the richest recruiting ground in the nation, and don't see that changing for awhile

I've disagreed with that notion for a long time.  Sure, Texas has large NUMBERS of recruits, but they have a population of 27 million... of course they have large numbers.  But several states, such as Louisiana and Mississippi have much higher percentages of successful players.

I suspect that because of the popularity of, and importance placed on, high school football in Texas, that Texas recruits tend to have come closer to their ultimate potential than other states.  If so, that would explain why so many Texas players seem to be over rated and why Louisiana puts way more players, per capita, in the NFL than Texas.

[Pudgepork]

I'd say his assessment is pretty accurate.  I love beating Texas more than anything, but we need to remember that this was probably one of the all-time bad Texas teams that we beat.  They are embarrassing.

I'll take any and every win against their program that we can get, no matter how low they are.   Many of those 57 wins against the Hogs came before scholarship limits and texass would have 200 very good athletes standing on the sidelines waiting their chance to play.   Arkansas sidelines would look almost empty compared to texass.   I remember when teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, texass would have a sidelines full in pads and other teams would have 100 less.   I feel no pity because many of those 57 wins came against Hog teams in rebuilding mode

[ErieHog]

So if you don't win a national title then you're not any good?  Listen, I hated Texas for years because they were our arch rival when I was in school.  But they had a lot of good teams.  And mack Brown was a darn good football coach at UNC and at Texas.  Obviously he lost it the last few years but he was a winner for a long time.  Mark Richt is a good coach also.  Have they under achieved?  Maybe, but they have had a lot of good years also.  Only one team ends up on top.  That's another good thing about the bowl system.  You can finish the year on a winning note, feel good about yourself going into next year even if you finish 6-6 for the regular season. 

No, they really aren't anything near their reputation.    They haven't won more than 10 games a single time in the last 5 years;   Since 1970, they've only won 10 games 17 times.  Sounds good, right?   It is, until you give it program context.

FSU? 22
OSU? 20
USC? 15--- despite taking a 14 season break.
Oklahoma? 23
Nebraska? 22
Alabama?  24

This isn't even touching on programs like Miami, Notre Dame, etc., that have been at least as successful in the same era.   These are just 10 win seasons-- if you want to argue for hyper elite,  (0, or 1, or even 2 loss seasons) the gap widens even further.

Texas is remarkably and consistently overhyped.      People act like Texas is a year in, year out 10 win team, when they haven't been, even in the 13 to 14 game a season era.

[AWHAWG]

Still hung over?   

yep sorry

[The NewEra]

This is a pretty good quote from their board.

Why would our AD agree to a game with Ark when we all knew how this would turn out? CS didn't make that call. The sec shoved this right up our a** and Patterson bears some responsibility. We wanted to be in a bowl, but this sure to hell was not what we needed to launch our 2015 year with,.

[redeye]

They actually have a thread on the decline of Oklahoma.   

[KennyForAD]

I'll take any and every win against their program that we can get, no matter how low they are.   Many of those 57 wins against the Hogs came before scholarship limits and texass would have 200 very good athletes standing on the sidelines waiting their chance to play.   Arkansas sidelines would look almost empty compared to texass.   I remember when teams like Oklahoma, Alabama, texass would have a sidelines full in pads and other teams would have 100 less.   I feel no pity because many of those 57 wins came against Hog teams in rebuilding mode

Only Texas would boast about how great they were in the pre - facemask era.   LOL   

[Rzbakfromwaybak]

A good part of their problem should be apparent.  Strong has already dismissed around 10 players, & probably going to be a few more gone before next year.  They probably have more talent on their team that meets the eye, but too many have attitude problems, not buying into the new coach, his style or play, etc.  I saw one of the players in an argument with Strong on the sidelines last night.  The player didn't seem to be backing down, or showing any respect. You see it all the time, players with talent that aren't team players.  They don't play much, or last long with good coaches.  Looks like Texas has more than it's share of those kind of players when Strong arrived.  That's evidently why so many have been dismissed.  Bet most were not dismissed for lack of individual talent.  They evidently were not getting good leadership from their previous coaches.  That is changing. They are certainly lacking talent at the QB position right now.

[EastexHawg]

At the major college level if you don't have a quarterback you don't have a team.  Swoopes is awful.  Until they get a lot better at QB they are going to struggle against decent teams.

[EastexHawg]

They never intended for Swoopes to be the man this year. No idea if they would have had a different season had their starter not had to quit football, but they would not have looked like they dd last night.

David Ash sucked before he quit football, too.  Not as bad as Swoopes, but he was sub-par. 

[Brer Hog]

I'd say his assessment is pretty accurate.  I love beating Texas more than anything, but we need to remember that this was probably one of the all-time bad Texas teams that we beat.  They are embarrassing.

Sorta like when they beat us 55-10 a few years back?  No sympathy!  Our D and punishing O line is in large part the reason they were embarrassing.  WPS!  What fun that was!

[moses_007]

There's not one team in the SEC as bad as Texas.  I have honestly never seen such a lifeless, inefficient Texas offense than we saw Monday night. 

[Hogfaniam]

There's not one team in the SEC as bad as Texas.  I have honestly never seen such a lifeless, inefficient Texas offense than we saw Monday night. 

Vanderbilt.  Kentucky.

We made Texas look worse than they are.

Texas has talent.  They are just a head case.

[DeltaBoy]

It is great to beat Texas.

[hoghiker]

This is a pretty good quote from their board.

Why would our AD agree to a game with Ark when we all knew how this would turn out? CS didn't make that call. The sec shoved this right up our a** and Patterson bears some responsibility. We wanted to be in a bowl, but this sure to hell was not what we needed to launch our 2015 year with,.

They really hate it when it's someone else that's being bent over and mauled. Go Hogs. Sympathy. Not.

[DeltaBoy]

             
 



Short Horn tears are the Best.

[Mike Irwin]

The Big 12 Is eventually going to be absorbed by the SEC and the PAC 12. Texas will go west. It's where they've always wanted to be and where they belong. OU will go with them because OU defines itself through Texas.

[Hog1952]

I'd say his assessment is pretty accurate.  I love beating Texas more than anything, but we need to remember that this was probably one of the all-time bad Texas teams that we beat.  They are embarrassing.

Always a great win beating a Texas team that has always had better recruiting classes than us. Most fulfilling Hog game I've ever attended.

Best defense we've had in decades that made them look bad!

[mhuff]

Based on what? What you see from the University of Texas?

There are a lot of good players that come from Texas and perform well on other teams. At Texas, you have had lazy recruiting (just signing stars) and bad coaching. I think you will eventually see that change under Strong and then everyone will be whining about why we aren't recruiting Texas more. We need to hit Texas just like we need to hit Florida and a number of other states.

[forrest city joe]

There's not one team in the SEC as bad as Texas.  I have honestly never seen such a lifeless, inefficient Texas offense than we saw Monday night. 

Not true. i am sick and tired of hearing how bad Texas is. we made them look that bad. Texas played UCLA to the wire before losing. they lost to Baylor only 28 to 21. nobody dominated. they looked bad because we made them look bad.

[Hog1952]

Not true. i am sick and tired of hearing how bad Texas is. we made them look that bad. Texas played UCLA to the wire before losing. they lost to Baylor only 28 to 21. nobody dominated. they looked bad because we made them look bad.

[Hog1952]

Right on Joe!!

[DeltaBoy]

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_TH7F85JkPq4/R0dzGY3KGLI/AAAAAAAAAYM/BHassGg8L3Q/s400/Horns_Sawed_off.bmp

[Jborohog09]

Not true. i am sick and tired of hearing how bad Texas is. we made them look that bad. Texas played UCLA to the wire before losing. they lost to Baylor only 28 to 21. nobody dominated. they looked bad because we made them look bad.

They lost 28-7 to Baylor.