Thanksgiving eve tidbits

[GO]

If it is already Scanlon then why did they announce the search committee members was finalized and they will begin the process of finding our AD. If it is a done deal no need to waste everyone's time just announce it and no committee needed. Last time a committee got involved we got stick with HDN....btw I have no problem at all with  KS as the new AD probably do a fine job. Gus, well let's just say I don't think he's more than a minor step up to 6/7 yearly wins here. Occasionally a bit better.  Pulling like hell for the plainsman to kick bama

[RockyMtnHog]

If you think that this board has been crazy this week.  Watch the Aubbie Board on Saturday night.

[Hawg Life]

If you think that this board has been crazy this week.  Watch the Aubbie Board on Saturday night.

They'll be mad Gus is staying @ Auburn.

[grayhawg]

They'll be mad Gus is staying @ Auburn.

So Kristi is moving to Springdale without him, or has Gus put his foot down, which is it?

[jgphillips3]

Way to trash up a great thread with this same old BS we have to read on here all of the time guys.

Tell that to Mr. Porkleone and his "how depressing" that someone would like to stay in Little Rock.  Some of us are particularly sick of that crap.  This isn't the NWA board.  This is the "ARKANSAS Razorback" board.  It's time to stop this NWA vs. the rest of the State crap.

[Hogs-n-Roses]

This man knows his stuff.

What peoples would like is for us to have a press conference and walk our new AD out and introduce him and he turn to his right and introduce his HC. May not be possible so then our AD may come first.

[WhenPigsFly]

If it is already Scanlon then why did they announce the search committee members was finalized and they will begin the process of finding our AD. If it is a done deal no need to waste everyone's time just announce it and no committee needed. Last time a committee got involved we got stick with HDN....btw I have no problem at all with  KS as the new AD probably do a fine job. Gus, well let's just say I don't think he's more than a minor step up to 6/7 yearly wins here. Occasionally a bit better.  Pulling like hell for the plainsman to kick bama

Read the release.  It's an advisory committee, not a search committee.

[Hogtimes]

Drop Gus from the list.  I don't want him and I'm sure I am not alone in that sentiment.  Sick and tired of seeing his name.  People act like he would be the second coming of Frank Broyles or some such nonsense.  I wan't that big on Frank either after some of the things he did.  We need a new fresh face.

I hope the Gus Bus throws a rod and has 4 flat tires.

Agree that Gus will not be a good choioce....don'think it will end well.

[colbs]

If he loses to Alabama, even certain Auburn insiders believe he'll be the next Hog coach. If he wins, that does not mean he won't be the next Hog head coach but the odds become much much greater he doesn't. The biggest question from the Auburn side is, how much to they play with Jimmy Sexton in this effort to get Gus about $2 million more a year and 5 more years of security? Do they say, "Jimmy, thanks, but we're going to spend that money on somebody else"? If Gus beat Alabama and beat Georgia a second time, he's in the CFP and it's hard to imagine the Arkansas powers-that-be waiting it out then, but somebody in that Arkansas PTB circle has decided they want to go all in on getting him.

This is my worry.  I'll be pissed if they hold out on Gus and miss on others.  Surely they won't wait on him if Auburn makes the CFB playoff.

[Darren DeLoach]

Is there any source or coverage out there from Arizona State that he's a high-level recruiter? If there is, I haven't found it.

Many view Norvell as a Gus with better recruiting and networking skills.

https://247sports.com/Coach/Mike-Norvell-750/AllTimeRecruits

[TX HOG]

Most view Norvell as a Gus with better recruiting and networking skills.

https://247sports.com/Coach/Mike-Norvell-750/AllTimeRecruits

I think if he were to get an 'interview' He would impress

[Boarcephus]

Many view Norvell as a Gus with better recruiting and networking skills.

https://247sports.com/Coach/Mike-Norvell-750/AllTimeRecruits

I agree plus he's about 15 years younger.  I've said from day one, the ONLY problem I have with Gus is he hasn't done that well the past 3 years with the talent he has access to. From what I've read, Gus is not a dynamic recruiter, doesn't really enjoy it but evidently he puts together a staff who are good recruiters. 

I'd rather go with Norvell. 

[31to6]

Looks like Scanlon will be our next AD.  If he does turn it down, the PTB will choose between Trainor or Varady. 

On to football. It's still Gus' job to turn down.  Norvell is the clear #2 at this point.   The wild card is that Mike Leach has some pretty influential people behind him and they are letting it known that he wants the job.

That's all I've got for now. 


Porkatarian out...

Happy with all the names in the post.

Thx.

[PigTimePlayer]

Great thread....Thanks for posting, Porkatarian. For one of very few times in my life, I will be saying Roll Tide on Saturday.

[DeltaBoy]

Thanks Pork It going to Great Thanksgiving!

[Hawg Life]

Great thread....Thanks for posting, Porkatarian. For one of very few times in my life, I will be saying Roll Tide on Saturday.

WAR F"N EAGLE!!!! No Gus.

[haystack]

WAR F"N EAGLE!!!! No Gus.

Can't believe I'll actually be rooting for Auburn... I'm with you! Keep the Gus Bus down there!

[grayhawg]

WAR F"N EAGLE!!!! No Gus.

Are you saying you will no longer be a fan if it''s Gus?

[SooieGeneris]

Tell that to Mr. Porkleone and his "how depressing" that someone would like to stay in Little Rock.  Some of us are particularly sick of that crap.  This isn't the NWA board.  This is the "ARKANSAS Razorback" board.  It's time to stop this NWA vs. the rest of the State crap.

I can't blame someone for taking exception to some of the comments like that. Like Dari said last night, generalization often leads to bad things. As I said, there are very nice parts of LR and I could deal with living in either place. Neither is for everyone.

My ex-wife wanted to relocate to Rogers, but I resisted because of a domineering in-law type situation.

The most controversial situation the next AD will have at the start is dealing with trying to keep both sides in this thing placated. (Unless this coaching hire is completely botched).

I don't say 'happy' because we all know not everyone is going to be happy no matter what is done. With that said, the new AD will have to be a good salesperson to sell whatever is decided.

That is why this position is a tough one. Given a choice between AD here and elsewhere, if this is not their "dream job," many would go somewhere they didn't have to deal with such a sticky situation on top of the NCAA and everything else.

That probably eliminates a lot of candidates, even some in staters.

[Hawg Life]

Are you saying you will no longer be a fan if it''s Gus?

He's not coming, so it's a no factor.

[ur]

He’s not coming, so it’s a no factor.

Even if bama wins? You think aub will match what we offer a coach that can't beat bammer?

[grayhawg]

He's not coming, so it's a no factor.

I'll ask again how do you know for sure?

[Dr. Starcs]

My biggest worry with Norvell is would he bring any semblance of a competitive defense? I'm tired of seeing terrible defense.

[Darren DeLoach]

I do find it a bit interesting that Arkansas folks in charge would take the state of Alabama's seconds in Gus and TT. They aren't good enough or up to the pressure for the same jobs in Auburn but a dream duo here. Maybe, if we want to pull from an organization in Alabama it should be the flagship. Not the dirty little cousin.

[Hollywood_HOGan45]

Give me norvell.

[swineology]

Looks like Scanlon will be our next AD.  If he does turn it down, the PTB will choose between Trainor or Varady. 

On to football. It's still Gus' job to turn down.  Norvell is the clear #2 at this point.   The wild card is that Mike Leach has some pretty influential people behind him and they are letting it known that he wants the job.

That's all I've got for now. 


Fake news

They wouldn't brought a committee together if it was Scanlon


Porkatarian out...

[Boston RedHogs]

My biggest worry with Norvell is would he bring any semblance of a competitive defense? I'm tired of seeing terrible defense.

Aren't you at least tired of seeing terrible offense, defense, AND special teams? Playing good complimentary football left our stadium years ago...

We certainly need a competitive defense, but we need major improvements in the other 2 areas as well if we want to see a jump in the Win column...a dynamic offense and sound special teams would be a major step up from where we are now

[lumphog]

I want to see HOW BAD he wants to come HOME... I want AU to beat Bama & Georgia again...
And SEE... IF he comes to Arkansas....THAT'S the only way I'll support him (I want Norvell or Leach)

[Hawg Life]

I'll ask again how do you know for sure?

I have a hunch.

[moses_007]

Yes, the job has been offered to Gus

Yes and he is taking our offer.  Namely because of

1.  He's tired of being threatened to be fired if he doesn't beat LSU and Alabama.

2.  Arkansas is his dream job.

3.  He wants to come home.

4.  His wife really wants to come home.

5.  His wife has a sick mother in Ft. Smith she wants to be closer to.

Enough reasons?  Money won't be an issue here.  He'll make millions here, so why does it matter?

Get on the Gus Bus, or be left behind.  We aint hiring no unproven coach from Memphis, regardless of his record.  I'd rather give the job to Dan Enos instead of doing that....

[tusksincolorado]

Just to asshats that don’t live here.  Some of us don’t want to move to NWA.  Shocking...I know.  Despite what the racist hillbillies think, a huge portion of Little Rock and North Little Rock is an incredibly nice place to live.

Where?

[porkurina]

Gus may not be my first choice but it will drive Butt crazy.  Enough for me for now.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

Yes and he is taking our offer.  Namely because of

1.  He's tired of being threatened to be fired if he doesn't beat LSU and Alabama.

2.  Arkansas is his dream job.

3.  He wants to come home.

4.  His wife really wants to come home.

5.  His wife has a sick mother in Ft. Smith she wants to be closer to.

Enough reasons?  Money won't be an issue here.  He'll make millions here, so why does it matter?

Get on the Gus Bus, or be left behind.  We aint hiring no unproven coach from Memphis, regardless of his record.  I'd rather give the job to Dan Enos instead of doing that....

Central Michigan won't even hire him back.

[ChicoHog]

Top 15 this year.

This year yes.  Not over his head coaching tenure though.  We had a good defense in 2014 also and that was an aberration, just like Leach this year. 

[hoofer]

Yes and he is taking our offer.  Namely because of

1.  He's tired of being threatened to be fired if he doesn't beat LSU and Alabama.

2.  Arkansas is his dream job.

3.  He wants to come home.

4.  His wife really wants to come home.

5.  His wife has a sick mother in Ft. Smith she wants to be closer to.

Enough reasons?  Money won't be an issue here.  He'll make millions here, so why does it matter?

Get on the Gus Bus, or be left behind.  We aint hiring no unproven coach from Memphis, regardless of his record.  I'd rather give the job to Dan Enos instead of doing that....

What happens if Gus wins Saturday, wins SECC and makes playoffs?

[grayhawg]

I have a hunch.

Okay that's better, why didn't you say that to begin with.

[Großer Kriegschwein]

This year yes.  Not over his head coaching tenure though.  We had a good defense in 2014 also and that was an aberration, just like Leach this year.

Coaches can get better, they can also get worse.

They rarely ever stay the same over an extended period of time.

You're being obtuse.

[HoggieStyle]

Malzahn is as divisive as Nutt.

Just say no.

[ChicoHog]

This is tough decision time for me.  I am an avid Auburn hater so I want them to lose to Bama Saturday.  But since I don't want Malzahn as coach I am probably better off having Auburn win to keep their chances of going to the playoff alive and Malzahn keep coaching there. 

I think I'd rather have Malzahn as our coach than seeing Auburn win.  Roll Tide!!

[Hawg Life]

Okay that's better, why didn't you say that to begin with.

Honestly, there are about 3 different stories circulating right now, and 2 don't involve Gus. I'm not sure The Iron Bowl is going to answer all questions. If you believe the $6.5 M offer that has been said that's seems very high for someone fleeing expectations and pressure. Odds are strong that we are being played by Sexton. It kind of depends on who you listen to and I don't listen to the media because they tell you what they want you to know. There was a time I knew a lot of what was going on and Jeff along ended that, so know you really don't know what to believe. There are only 3-4 that candidates that'll be given a serious look. I think if Gus was the candidate what's to stop him from throwing the game Saturday? Gus was insecure so he started looking around, but now he's secure again. He'll get more money and a bigger buyout @ Auburn if he stays. Now, if he leaves look for NCAA investigations and sanctions @ Auburn. The most Gus thing to do would be jump ship before the hammer drops:

[DoctorSusscrofa]

Are you saying you will no longer be a fan if it''s Gus?

That IS what I'm saying. I will actively oppose the Hogs if Gus is coach until he leaves. Despise him.

[zerose]

Hey pork, you steal my magic crystal 8-ball?

[HogFanOSU]

Why on earth does everyone think the U of A is betting the future of the football program on the results of a single Alabama-Auburn game over which they have absolutely no control? That is ridiculous.  If it is the case, then there are much, much bigger problems than the football program.  Gus has not been offered the job because at this point there is no job to offer.  Arkansas has not even talked to him.  They would need permission from Auburn to do so, under NCAA rules, and Auburn would never let that happen right now.  Perhaps some informal discussions have taken place between non U of A people and his agent.  My guess all this talk of Gus wanting to come to Arkansas is nothing more than a play by Jimmy Sexton to get him a long contract extension with a big raise at Auburn.  Wouldn't be the first time he's done something like that.  Remember Houston Nutt going to LSU.

[Hawg Life]

Why on earth does everyone think the U of A is betting the future of the football program on the results of a single Alabama-Auburn game over which they have absolutely no control? That is ridiculous.  If it is the case, then there are much, much bigger problems than the football program.  Gus has not been offered the job because at this point there is no job to offer.  Arkansas has not even talked to him.  They would need permission from Auburn to do so, under NCAA rules, and Auburn would never let that happen right now.  Perhaps some informal discussions have taken place between non U of A people and his agent.  My guess all this talk of Gus wanting to come to Arkansas is nothing more than a play by Jimmy Sexton to get him a long contract extension with a big raise at Auburn.  Wouldn't be the first time he's done something like that.  Remember Houston Nutt going to LSU.

You're 100% right. Sexton has many media contacts, and a low moral compass. He's also the agent of our top 2 targets, so he controls negotiation power by raising the value of one to get him a raise and extension while raising the value of B by getting the $$$$$$ thinking up as to what they'll spend for B. It's old school genius and it's always worked.

[Tony Perkis]

This is tough decision time for me.  I am an avid Auburn hater so I want them to lose to Bama Saturday.  But since I don't want Malzahn as coach I am probably better off having Auburn win to keep their chances of going to the playoff alive and Malzahn keep coaching there. 

I think I'd rather have Malzahn as our coach than seeing Auburn win.  Roll Tide!!

Crazy times. Think about it. People are cheering for a coach to go to the college football playoff so he's not our coach.

[HogFansReunited]

Smoke and mirrors....

[Pcalitrack]

Nm

[Styflin]

That IS what I'm saying. I will actively oppose the Hogs if Gus is coach until he leaves. Despise him.

See ya

[TazorTusk]

Was pretty neutral on the Gus movement until a couple of days ago.  However, in the last 48 hours my gut has spoken clearly and I much prefer hiring Norvell to Malzahn.  Guess as much as I think Gus was mistreated when an assistant at the U of A, for me he has been on the opposing sideline too long now.

1. Norvell - (Hope the negotiations include the fact that he has a proven DC ready to sign on with him.  Like the idea of his AD coming with him -- but admit that my preference has been highly prejudiced by all of the posts here on HV about him.  He is by far my favorite for whatever reason.)
2. Campbell - (Somebody with much deeper pockets than I would have to be convinced that he is worth all of the cash.)
3. Frost - (No one seems to think he would rate us over Nebraska or Florida, but...)
4. Mullen - (Seems to me he has done a very good job of recruiting and coaching at a place where winning is not the norm. Am not sure how his low key personality would mesh with some of our fans.)
5. Gus - (His honeymoon here could be a really short one given the past.  Do any of you remember his player who fell to the ground as if shot by a sniper?  I know, we attempted the same thing with Sosa this year, but do you really think that elevator getting stuck was an accident?  I'd like to win without that sort of rinky-dink stuff.  And, a man with close ties to Auburn's program tells me that Gus doesn't do much of the recruiting.  Same source told me before the 2016 season last year that Auburn's defense was the fastest he had ever seen, and I think this has been shown to be fairly true.  Think they take Bama this weekend perhaps ending our quest for him anyway.)
6. Kiffin - (A sleeper and a winning choice only if he has grown up after Saban's chastisement.  He may need a couple of more years of seasoning.)
7. Leach - (Read his book, but I think his antics would get old really fast and think he has a ceiling at about 70% of what I'd wish for the Hogs).  Definitely prefer Malzahn over Leach.

Now, having paused to reflect this Thanksgiving season and realizing the paucity of information that I have to make the final call, you know what I am thankful for?  That this decision is not mine!!! 

Nonetheless, at this point we all can enjoy coming up with our own lists of favorites and eagerly waiting to see what unfolds.  It's good that we have something to keep our interests at the end of a most disappointing season.

Have a great Turkey Day.

Tazor

[Styflin]

Crazy times. Think about it. People are cheering for a coach to go to the college football playoff so he's not our coach.

I just shake my head head. It's amazing