50 & Older

[Kevin]

I am 50, wish we were playing somebody else in Texas. There is no rivalry

[Pigsknuckles]

...Are old guys going to be lecturing everybody for the next three weeks?...

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[Boarcephus]

Texas is up there with Notre Dame when it comes to programs that people love to hate and each individual has their own reasons.  I have no animosity towards Bama, FSU, USC or any other school but have grown to despise those two programs whatever the sport.

[hoglady]

Well - one reason us old timers like playing Texas is it reminds us of a time when we weren't considered the also rans of a conference.
When we were competitive and respected throughout the college football world.
We were really a premiere program.
The SEC financially has been good for us - but the prestige of the program has been greatly diminished.
Hopefully Beliema will get us back there.

[ballz2thewall]

So you have to be over 50 to understand how bad we hated Texas during our time in the SWC?

Is it huge? No.

Is it an important continuance to a historic rivalry? Yes.

Does it mean as much to Texas as it does to us? No.

Silly OP.

it's not huge, eh......

ah; ok.

[snoblind]

Arkansas is 21-56 all time vs Texas. Series have to be a bit less one sided for me to call it a rivalry.

If 50 years from now when y'all are dead and gone, I'm old like all you old guys, and Arkansas has played like 5 games against Texas it sill won't be a rivalry. It will just be 5 more times Arkansas has played (and hopefully beaten) Texas.

But if you think it's a rivalry game, then hey, go out there and do what you do, enjoy yourselves, just don't think everybody should share your excitement.

My thing is hatred for something gives it standing; ignoring it belittles it. But have fun hating Texas, you guys earned it for enduring the 1970s of Arkansas vs Texas rivalry series.

When the game was being played we were, at best, #3 on their list.  And that was probably only from 50's onward when we won all but 5 of those 21 games.  Back in the day SMU & TCU were big dogs, but every old SWC team probably had a similar winning percentage against them.  And if you ask any of their older fans Texas was the #1 team they wanted to beat.  So when we call it a rivalry game we get it isn't Alabama/Auburn, etc. But if you spend 30 something years of your life wanting to beat a certain team more than any other team it does take on a life of its own.

After 20 plus years of not playing every year and having good friends in Texas I don't really hate Texas any more.  But to this day I enjoy seeing Texas lose.  And relish the opportunity to hand them another loss.

[greenie]

Last Ark/Texas game I attended was in 1981.  Really looking forward to going to another.

[Hog lite]

How many have heard the Craig O'neal prank call?  Thought it was fitting tonight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgTjfSZJfOc&sns=em

[Pigsrus]

Agree with all here -- Texas needs a biotch slapping in the worse way.  I hate their fans almost as much as LSU's.  Go Hogs!

[snoblind]

jrulz83, I'm telling hoglady you called her an old guy.

Texas is always going to be one of our top 2 or 3 recruiting areas outside the state.  So another game in Texas against Texas with the month of free publicity is a big deal.  Louisiana being next door to Houston doesn't hurt.  Yep, we know it ain't 64, 69 or 81.  But maybe outside of playing Miami in Shreveport there isn't any other bowl remotely close to the benefits.

[ChicoHog]

Last Ark/Texas game I attended was in 1981.  Really looking forward to going to another.

That was a great one to see.  I was there also and it was awesome.  And last texas/Arkansas game I attended too. My junior year on the hill.

Edit:  I forgot i went to the game in 2004 when Jones fumbled in the last couple minutes.  that was a great game and fantastic crowd. Best crowd I have ever seen/heard including the 2010 Bama game. 

[Hog Fan n Tx]

With the Houston area devoid of a major college team (sorry Uof H) to take up the sport pages in the Houston Chronicle for the next month, there will be a lot of coverage of the Texas Bowl.  We have a lot of highly ranked high school football payers reading about us.  I would think a lot of them and their coaches will be invited to several events.  This would not be happening at a Liberty or Independence Bowl.

[jrulz83]

jrulz83, I'm telling hoglady you called her an old guy.

Texas is always going to be one of our top 2 or 3 recruiting areas outside the state.  So another game in Texas against Texas with the month of free publicity is a big deal.  Louisiana being next door to Houston doesn't hurt.  Yep, we know it ain't 64, 69 or 81.  But maybe outside of playing Miami in Shreveport there isn't any other bowl remotely close to the benefits.

I'm sure she'll be crushed. 

If Arkansas was playing Penn State in Houston would you feel the same way about the game?

[Sooie71923]

I'm 28 and feel this is the biggest bowl matchup of the last 10 years. HUGE game for so many reasons.

I hate texas all the way down to my itty bitty tip of my pinky.

I hope we get some legends to speak to the team before the game.  I hate to say it, he's not a legend, but I wouldn't mind if HDN spoke to the team before the game.

[kodiakisland]

With the Houston area devoid of a major college team (sorry Uof H) to take up the sport pages in the Houston Chronicle for the next month, there will be a lot of coverage of the Texas Bowl.  We have a lot of highly ranked high school football payers reading about us.  I would think a lot of them and their coaches will be invited to several events.  This would not be happening at a Liberty or Independence Bowl.

I read the paper every morning.  I'm in my 40's.  I bet most HS kids have never read the paper.

[JONAS]

I'm 41 and though I was not around for the '69 game, I remember the last second TD catch by Tony Jones in '87.  I still have not gotten over that one.  That cost us a SWC Championship.

[Hog Fan n Tx]

I read the paper every morning.  I'm in my 40's.  I bet most HS kids have never read the paper.

They read the chronicle sports online.

[hoglady]

jrulz83, I'm telling hoglady you called her an old guy.

Texas is always going to be one of our top 2 or 3 recruiting areas outside the state.  So another game in Texas against Texas with the month of free publicity is a big deal.  Louisiana being next door to Houston doesn't hurt.  Yep, we know it ain't 64, 69 or 81.  But maybe outside of playing Miami in Shreveport there isn't any other bowl remotely close to the benefits.

I'm a little disappointed not going to the Independence - but that's just selfish reasons ( I grew up in Bossier City). I think playing Texas in Houston gets more exposure than playing Miami in Shreveport. Advantage to Shreveport is that stadium would be a sea of red. I bet the Independence is sick with the matchup they have - neither team will bring many fans.

[Atlhogfan1]

I'm not close to 50 but I was raised right. 


Forgetting about our history with Texas, there are still reasons to hate the Horns.

They are the ultimate front runners in all of college sports.  The weaker the competition, the more advantages they have the better for the Horns.  Their arrogance is unsurpassed except perhaps only by their failure to back up for the past 40+ years. 

[SamBuckhart]

59 here. Ending the year with a win against those arrogant @#&s, will be a nice start to the new year.

[jmingram911]

No matter what age, what place, what time, it is ALWAYS great to play, and BEAT the Teasippers!!  Saw em off!!  Shorthorns!! 

[snoblind]

I'm sure she'll be crushed. 

If Arkansas was playing Penn State in Houston would you feel the same way about the game?

Probably not, we don't have any history with them.  Without looking it up, I don't think we have ever played them?  Penn St or any team not from Texas isn't going to get the same amount of local press.  And the high school kids wouldn't have the same interest I don't think.

But would still rather play in that bowl against someone else than most other bowls we had an actual shot at.  Apparently we can invite high school coaches and players to practices, etc.  So there are recruiting perks are still there. 

[snoblind]

I'm a little disappointed not going to the Independence - but that's just selfish reasons ( I grew up in Bossier City). I think playing Texas in Houston gets more exposure than playing Miami in Shreveport. Advantage to Shreveport is that stadium would be a sea of red. I bet the Independence is sick with the matchup they have - neither team will bring many fans.

IMHO, that would have the next best option for us.  I don't think Miami fills their stadium at home game?

http://students.com.miami.edu/netreporting/?page_id=1280

[jrulz83]

Probably not, we don't have any history with them.  Without looking it up, I don't think we have ever played them?  Penn St or any team not from Texas isn't going to get the same amount of local press.  And the high school kids wouldn't have the same interest I don't think.

But would still rather play in that bowl against someone else than most other bowls we had an actual shot at.  Apparently we can invite high school coaches and players to practices, etc.  So there are recruiting perks are still there.

To tell you the truth I don't care who or where Arkansas plays, I'm just glad they got to a bowl. I would be more excited because Arkansas played somebody more unknown to the fanbase than Texas, but that's just me.

To tell the truth I wanted Miami in Shreveport and Miami needs a face kicking from Arkansas. Win, lose or draw, the bowl game will be beneficial even if they played it on the moon against aliens.

[OTTER]

So you have to be over 50 to understand how bad we hated Texas during our time in the SWC?

Is it huge? No.

Is it an important continuance to a historic rivalry? Yes.

Does it mean as much to Texas as it does to us? No.

Silly OP.

Now that's asinine!

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

  That's how my family feels about the Horns.

[snoblind]

To tell you the truth I don't care who or where Arkansas plays, I'm just glad they got to a bowl. I would be more excited because Arkansas played somebody more unknown to the fanbase than Texas, but that's just me.

To tell the truth I wanted Miami in Shreveport and Miami needs a face kicking from Arkansas. Win, lose or draw, the bowl game will be beneficial even if they played it on the moon against aliens.

Yeah, I would have enjoyed a chance to curb stomp Miami.  And you are correct, after the past two years getting to a bowl is god.

[hogsanity]

Hog fans still pining away over a "rivalry" that one side simply dominated. I am glad the Hogs are in a bowl game, after the lst two seasons, the program needed it. However, hog fans talk all the time about how overrated Texas always is, and how weak the big12-2-1+3*1.5 is, but now beating a 6-6 Texas team is supposed to be some amazing thing? I don't get that.

And I am 44 years old, and one of my best Hog memories ever was watching the Horns melt down in Fay when ranked #1. It was a big deal when they were in the same league and often battling for the conf title.  But this is the Hogs 3rd game in Texas this year, FYI, there are places to recruit and play outside of that state.

[greenie]

That was a great one to see.  I was there also and it was awesome.  And last texas/Arkansas game I attended too. My junior year on the hill.

Then we're exactly the same age.  That was a great time in Ark sports.  Great coaches in Lou Holtz, Eddie Sutton, Norm DeBriyn, and John McDonnell. 

This Texas game has me fired up. 

[goodguytex]

I live in texarkana on the texas/arkansas border and the Texass hate never goes away. I get the sick burnt orange crap in my face every day. Time to shut em up.

[PolishPigPower]

I'm a man.  I'm 43.  I hate Texa$$ with pride.  My first memories of football are of Little and Erxleben kicking insane field goals.  Of all the mistakes I've made in this life, despising the Shorthorns is the one thing I know I've done right.

[Arkfan]

Why? So you could attend? Or is the independence bowl now a destination?

bp

I think Shreveport is just as much a "destination" as Houston is. At least Shreveport has casinos. What does Houston have if you dont speak Spanish? But thats not why Im less than excited.

Texas is a long time ago from a long gone conference. Yeah, I hate em but I would rather played Miami. I guess Ive moved on.

[DLUXHOG]

I'm over 50 and although it's a good match up, and was awesome when we were members of the SWC (ended in the 90's), but it is not nearly as good as playing LSU, Alabama, Auburn, A&M, Ole Miss, Miss State, or any SEC East team today, or playing in the SEC championship game today....

I will certainly try to be there as I was for the 2000 Cotton Bowl.

[DeltaBoy]

I'm 48 almost 49 and Yes I HATE all things Burnt Orange.

[GolfnHog]

It's by gawd reunion time for both the Hogs and me. I spent 28 years of my adult life (57 yoa now) in Texas and as a Hog there were times that the Longhorn arrogance was very amusing.

Like when they had to sign a Highway Patrol ticket and at the bottom of the clipboard  there were 3 running Razorbacks staring them in the face as they "sign here, press hard, there are 3 copies that require your signature".

#GoHogs #WPS

[MJ2]

Love to beat them, but we mean nothing to them and never have.    The series is very one-sided in their favor.

[SpaCityHawg]

I think Shreveport is just as much a "destination" as Houston is. At least Shreveport has casinos. What does Houston have if you dont speak Spanish? But thats not why Im less than excited.

Texas is a long time ago from a long gone conference. Yeah, I hate em but I would rather played Miami. I guess Ive moved on.

The players seem to be excited to play Texas, so that's enough reason for me to be excited about the game.

[Inhogswetrust]

Playing Texas is huge to us! Texas has thrown their weight around for years and we still beat them and yes we lost to them also. They are like BAMA of today except arrogant bunch that has had the Lions share of money proceeds in every conference they ever been in.
I remember watching the games as a kid and they have been my arch enemy ever since!
Beating Texas will make Old Razorbacks rattle the coffins.

I'm 57 and old enough to remember and went to school at the UA when we were still in the SWC. I couldn't care less about tejas. That's in the past and I don't like living in the past and didn't care who or where we played in the bowl. The only reasons I was happy to see where we played was for the players it seems like the best reward for all their hard work this year over the other bowls that were mentioned. Also for getting even more exposure for recruiting in tejas as well as giving back to the fans that are unfortunate enough to live down there. Also for the opportunity to beat what is traditionally a nationally known program that everyone loves to hate and not just Hog fans either...................Oh and don't forget the extra practices and money.

[Ex-Trumpet]

Love to beat them, but we mean nothing to them and never have.    The series is very one-sided in their favor.

Doesn't matter that we mean nothing to them...we hate them enough for the both of us!  Texas sucks!!

...and they hate us too.  Don't believe a word a longhorn says.

[SamBuckhart]

No Wooster-Spyrer sauce this year. Would be nice to shut them out. UP.

[Tripod1]

I'm 64 and just glad we are in a bowl for the extra practice and exposure we will get.  Glad it is Texas but just don't have the fire to hate them like I did back in the SWC days.

[DemiHOG]

I am 61, I dispise longhorns, will always consider them as the dark side, will be fired up over this game, I even preach to my grandkids, not to like the longhorns. wps

[Arkfan]

The players seem to be excited to play Texas, so that's enough reason for me to be excited about the game.

Just for conversation do you honestly think any player or coach would say theyd rather play somebody else in another city in another bowl?

[Peter Porker]

If Texas is that big a deal then let's join the Big12.

I wish you guys hated Bama, LSU, Auburn etc as much as you hate texas. Maybe then we'd have a rival. Until then we are just misfits in the SEC that wish they were back inthe swc.

[OLDHOG]

Clearly, you don't get it.

No, he doesn't have a clue.

[redeye]

I am 50, wish we were playing somebody else in Texas. There is no rivalry

I would bet money that you're either lying about your age or haven't been an Arkansas fan for most of your life.  You didn't hear any of this griping about playing Texas as recently as 15-20 years ago, so it's hard to believe that anyone your age actually feels that way, despite that several claim they do.

Are old guys going to be lecturing everybody for the next three weeks? The Texas thing is over, it's just a bowl game. The most important thing about it is the extra practice, not the opponent.

If it were over, would we be having this discussion?  Don't pretend to speak for all Arkansas fans or even most of them.

[davglo35]

Anytime i see the longhorn logo i get this feeling. Its between anger and hate. My son's girlfriend's brother came to my house once with a longhorn cap on and i wouldn't let him in. I told him the cap goes in his truck or he has to leave. He thought i was joking but when he realized i wasn't he put it in his truck and has never worn it in my presence again. Longhorns are like Nazis to me.

[Athog]

Playing Texas is huge to us! Texas has thrown their weight around for years and we still beat them and yes we lost to them also. They are like BAMA of today except arrogant bunch that has had the Lions share of money proceeds in every conference they ever been in.
I remember watching the games as a kid and they have been my arch enemy ever since!
Beating Texas will make Old Razorbacks rattle the coffins.

Give it a rest!!

[urkillnmesmalls]

Be honest...how many here who are saying they don't at least dislike Texas have ever attended a game at UT?  Show of hands please... 

I think a big part of the dislike/hatred for UT by the "older crowd" is because the odds are much greater that they've actually attended a game in Austin over their lifetimes.  It's the very same reason I DESPISE LSU, and if you've been to a few games there, then you can probably relate.   

At Texas, they're as smug as any fans you're ever going to see...worse than Bama.  UT's campus is like a city...no joke.  MAJOR sense of entitlement.  I cannot stand LSU...they're worse than Texas fans, because they're a "Johnny come lately" to success and they feel that gives them the right to act smug, AND they act crass and low class to go along with it.   

And for those saying we never meant anything to Texas...you should try listening to some of the Texas players who played from the era spanning from the 60's through the 80's. They knew the Arkansas game was going to be a battle, and they had it circled in many years as the game they had to win for the SWC title.  Unfortunately, they won it most of the time.

As some have said...that 2004 game was loud and raucous.  There's a reason for that....   :razorback:

Having said all of that, this game scares me.  We're expected to win, and IMO we don't have much to gain.  Unfortunately, and I said it bothered me when they entered the league, TAMU will go right into the homes of the recruits that are on the fence and say, "You saw what Arkansas did to Texas in the Texas bowl...you should come play in the SEC, not the Big 10/12."  I'm not sure how much beating Texas really helps us in recruiting with the uprising of TCU and Baylor, and TAMU now being in the SEC.

Those of us who can't stand Texas's egocentric smug attitudes will love it though.    

[hogsanity]

Be honest...how many here who are saying they don't at least dislike Texas
 

See, right there is the big misconception about this whole discussion. I have not seen people saying they do not have a dislike for Texas. I do not like them, can't stand their smug attitude, and think they have been woefully under performing for years, BUT I also do not think playing them is the be all end all that some think it is.

If the Hogs were not already playing A&M every year, were not in the middle of a home and home with TT, and did not have TCU coming up on the schedule, I would think this game was great. There are so many teams the Hogs have rarely or never played, ND, PN St, VT, Clem, UCLA, Neb, Ohio St just to name a few, it would be nice to see a match up with one of those teams.  Are people really trying to tell me beating Texas is a bigger deal, FOR THE PROGRAM NOW, is better than beating a Ohio St or a UCLA?

I do not like Texas, I do not like any team other than Arkansas. I will usually choose sides in a game I want to watch, just to make it fun, but I do not follow any other team.