Which In-state match up would you rather see?

[ADAM_713]

Don't if any of these games could happen in the next few years, but if they could...  I think instate play could be a very good thing for all of our programs.

[hogbud]

yawn>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[bigarrazorback]

i guess asu dont know why though

[Brownie Tuggle]

It's time for UA vs ASU. I mean what ever stogic old guard excuse for not playing them is so 1970ish! We dont have nothing to gain has been the main one. Why hell, we've been in the SEC for 16 years and aint won it outright yet! Who the hell are we fooling besides ourselves? UCA vs UAPB is already scheduled. Playing ASU is something that needs to take place. Don't give me that Frank Broyles excuse that we'll become what Ole Miss and MSU have become, losers all the way around. It won't happen! Mississippi is a 3rd world country that exist in the USA. Arkansas will not become Ole Miss!

[Killean]

It's a retarded idea with no real appeal to anybody outside of the state and serves no revenue or exposure purpose whatsoever for the University.


Does LSU play ULM every year?


It's a waste of a schedule spot.

[GuvHog]

Keep an eye on UAPB fella's. It may not be this year but with Monte Coleman as HC they're soon
gonna' be kickin' some serious SWAC BUTT!

[Bryan (CHF)]

Out of that list, only ASU, since they are the only Div 1A school.

I don't care too much if we play them or not. However, if we continue to pull a random Sun Belt team onto our schedule every year, to me beating down ASU is no different from ULM, North Texas or one of the others.

[ErieHog]

Where is  Arkansas- Har Ber?

It'd be a more appealing matchup

[ADAM_713]

It's a retarded idea with no real appeal to anybody OUTSIDE THE STATE and serves no revenue or exposure purpose whatsoever for the University.


Does LSU play ULM every year?


It's a waste of a schedule spot.

Well considering that a good number of Hog fans are in-state, and most that are out have some tie to the state or a state program.  I mean you can't tell me playing ASU or UCA wouldn't be a better more exciting match up than playing WIU or ULM. 

[OnYourToes]

Keep an eye on UAPB fella's. It may not be this year but with Monte Coleman as HC they're soon
gonna' be kickin' some serious SWAC BUTT!

Monte Coleman, the same Monte that played at UCA and then the Washington Redskins for almost a decade?

[ADAM_713]

Monte Coleman, the same Monte that played at UCA and then the Washington Redskins for almost a decade?

I believe he is from Pine Bluff, so he would be "coming home."

[GuvHog]

Monte Coleman, the same Monte that played at UCA and then the Washington Redskins for almost a decade?

You are correct, and he still looks like he could play today.

[WMHawgfan]

How about UA-Monticello? Don't want to leave the raging Boll Weevils off that list.

[GuvHog]

How about UA-Monticello? Don't want to leave the raging Boll Weevils off that list.

Unfortunently there hasn't been a whole lot of "Raging" goin' on down there lately.

[Brownie Tuggle]

LSU has played an in-state team every year since 2005. According to the school's official Web site, LSU will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

2012 - Tulane
2011 - Tulane
2010 - Tulane
2009 - UL-Lafayette
2008 - Tulane
2007 - La. Tech
2006 - UL - Lafayette

Thank you! and Texas plays North Texas and other low end Texas D-1 Schools. ASU vs UA aint gonna close down the program.

[cdclark09]

You can't put UA and UCA on the same field.  UCA maybe growing but athletically they still are no way comparable to UA or even ASU.  UA and ASU may happen with the new leadership in the athletic program buy I don't see it in the next 3 or 4 years.  Good ole Frank wouldn't let it happen over his cold dead body. 

[Brownie Tuggle]

It's a retarded idea with no real appeal to anybody outside of the state and serves no revenue or exposure purpose whatsoever for the University.


Does LSU play ULM every year?


It's a waste of a schedule spot.

I guess the fact we give ULM a home game spot to add to thier attendence stats holds real appeal outside the State. Your statement is retarded!
If Arkansas will play Sun Belt Schools and not play ASU, what value does the other Sun Belt Schools bring Arkansas outside of the State? Come a little closer so I can whisper this in your ear. NONE!!!!!

[RazrRila99]

Id rather see a UCA v ASU matchup. 

[razorbackred]

None of the above!!!

I would much rather play Tulsa every year vs any of these schools, especially as long as Gus is there. 

There is only 1 progam that matters in this state so why should they take a step down to make a few people happy?

[ADAM_713]

None of the above!!!

I would much rather play Tulsa every year vs any of these schools, especially as long as Gus is there. 

There is only 1 progam that matters in this state so why should they take a step down to make a few people happy?

A step down?  You mean like playing WIU? 

And I think it is more than just a "few people"  who would like to see an instate game.

[GuvHog]

LSU has played an in-state team every year since 2005. According to the school's official Web site, LSU will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.

2012 - Tulane
2011 - Tulane
2010 - Tulane
2009 - UL-Lafayette
2008 - Tulane
2007 - La. Tech
2006 - UL - Lafayette

Very convenient isn't it? They only play the #3 team in Louisiana only once and the #2 team
isn't on the schedule at all.

[Dutch Creek Hog]

I'd be more interested in UA-UCA than I am Western Illinois.

Plus, it would make the Indian Wolves all the more jealous.

[Brownie Tuggle]

None of the above!!!

I would much rather play Tulsa every year vs any of these schools, especially as long as Gus is there. 

There is only 1 progam that matters in this state so why should they take a step down to make a few people happy?

So playing Tulsa because Gus is there makes not playing ASU a good Idea?
The Hogs are the Sun Belt Champs again. Playing Sun Belt teams and not ASU who's a Sun Belt member holds no water. So if Gus leaves Tulsa do we need to stop playing them? Stepping down to make a few people happy by playing ASU isn't what this is about. The Hogs have stepped down and lost to the likes of the Citidal, UNLV and Vandy! That didn't make anyone happy.
You've got  the following in State games.
Iowa vs Iowa St.
Ole Miss vs MSU
Kansas vs K-State
OU vs OSU
Arizona vs ASU
UVA vs VA. Tech
Georgia vs Ga. Tech
LSU vs Tulane
Texas vs TAMU
Colorado vs CSU
Oregon vs OSU
man it goes on and on and on. What do we have? Gus and frigging Tulsa!!!!

[hogfan064]

Very convenient isn't it? They only play the #3 team in Louisiana only once and the #2 team
isn't on the schedule at all.

Is there truly a #3 team in LA?  Tulane went 12-0 in 1998.  ULM, ULL, LT, and Tulane all have been equally bad this decade. 

I would say ULM and ULL both are worse than Tulane and LT.  LT and Tulane play in tougher conferences and both have been to bowls in the last decade.  Tulane went 12-0 in 1998 

[GuvHog]

Is there truly a #3 team in LA?  Tulane went 12-0 in 1998.  ULM, ULL, LT, and Tulane all have been equally bad this decade. 

I would say ULM and ULL both are worse than Tulane and LT.  LT and Tulane play in tougher conferences and both have been to bowls in the last decade.  Tulane went 12-0 in 1998 

You make good points. However, ULM is the only one of those teams to recently beat BAMA in Tuscaloosa. THAT qualifies ULM to be the #2 team in my book.

[Dutch Creek Hog]

Iowa vs Iowa St.
Ole Miss vs MSU
Kansas vs K-State
OU vs OSU
Arizona vs ASU
UVA vs VA. Tech
Georgia vs Ga. Tech
LSU vs Tulane
Texas vs TAMU
Colorado vs CSU
Oregon vs OSU
man it goes on and on and on. What do we have? Gus and frigging Tulsa!!!!

And none of the instate matchups listed here are comparable to UA/ASU.

LSU/ULM is the only one that I can really think of.

Man, that sure sends goosebumps up and down my spine. 

The LSU/ULM Showdown.

Wow.

We are really missing out.

[Brownie Tuggle]

Very convenient isn't it? They only play the #3 team in Louisiana only once and the #2 team
isn't on the schedule at all.

ULM is the #2 team in Louisiana? Do they get a trophy for that? Is it on the back of thier jersey when they visit other teams? Do they cherish and rally around this tag? We're #2, we're #2, we're #2!!!!

[ADAM_713]

And none of the instate matchups listed here are comparable to UA/ASU.

LSU/ULM is the only one that I can really think of.

Man, that sure sends goosebumps up and down my spine. 

The LSU/ULM Showdown.

Wow.

We are really missing out.

I think you are missing the point.  I don't think anyone is thinking that a ASU/UA game will have the hype behind it that the UA/LSU game does.  However it sure is a heck of alot more worthy than playing an outstate team like WIU.  Also who is to not say that it could be a rivalry in between them in 20 yrs.  Plus you are keeping all tax dollars and profits from the game in state. 

[Bryan (CHF)]

Since it seems this thread will turn into another should we or shouldn't we play ASU thread, I'll throw out a few questions that I can't seem to find all the answers too.

First, we play at least one sometimes more Sun Belt teams a year. Now, ULM is really in a different category as we have the agreement with them for 10 years (till 2014 I think?) to play every other year in LR and let them be the home team to help keep them up on attendance for Div 1A. Outside of them, we play Troy, North Texas, FIU and other Sun Belt teams. We pay each of them a nice large chuck of change to come play us at home. We typically don't sell out RRS for these games (unless it is the first game of the year) so we have been losing some revenue there.

Now, somehow I don't see how a UA/ASU game wouldn't sell out RRS. It might not but I would be willing to bet it would. The question then would be how much we have to pay them as a lower Div 1A team to come in and get their beat down. Since it would be an instate game, could we get the state to pay some of this money? I really don't know.

There are some obvious drawbacks to this game (or series if it was to become that). We enjoy being the top dog in the state and remain one of the few teams in the South that can do this. So recruiting the best of the best from Arkansas to come to Fayetteville vice Jonesboro hasn't been a problem. Could this change if ASU was to beat us or if they got better? Who knows but I doubt it. I think they would have to move into a different conference for that to begin to happen, maybe Conf USA.

I've always been practical about things and I would say give a look at all of the specifics, pros & cons to this particular game. Emotion should be left at the door step as it doesn't help. From an economic standpoint, does it make sense to continue to pay other Sun Belt teams to come to Fayetteville and play and not do it cheaper with ASU? Lots of unknowns that would need to be answered.

[Dutch Creek Hog]

  Also who is to not say that it could be a rivalry in between them in 20 yrs. 

I am to say it won't happen.

It won't.

The other arguements are legit, but the whole in-state "rivalry" angle is foolish.

If ASU is ever our rival, we will have to suck really, really bad for a really long time.

[Brownie Tuggle]

And none of the instate matchups listed here are comparable to UA/ASU.

LSU/ULM is the only one that I can really think of.

Man, that sure sends goosebumps up and down my spine. 

The LSU/ULM Showdown.

Wow.

We are really missing out.

That couldn't be because we've never had a instate match up could it? Yes those matchups are more valued than UA vs ASU because those States decided not to fall under Communist Tatics such as the Frank Broyles Czarship as Arkansas did. They need to play ASU if were gonna play the likes of Western Illni. If were gonna shove money in ULM's pockets, then play ASU. If you've got the balls to play "The Citidal", Troy, and UNLV play ASU.

[hogfan064]

You make good points. However, ULM is the only one of those teams to recently beat BAMA in Tuscaloosa. THAT qualifies ULM to be the #2 team in my book.

Maybe last season, but when LSU made out those schedule they were as bad as any other school in the state.  It's not as if LSU is ducking the Warhawks. 

Tulane was a rival of LSU's in the SEC days.  The 2 are big baseball rivals.  Tulane and LT historically are by far better than ULM or ULL.  Some might argue that Grambling historically is better than ULM. 

[Brownie Tuggle]

Since it seems this thread will turn into another should we or shouldn’t we play ASU thread, I’ll throw out a few questions that I can’t seem to find all the answers too.

First, we play at least one sometimes more Sun Belt teams a year. Now, ULM is really in a different category as we have the agreement with them for 10 years (till 2014 I think?) to play every other year in LR and let them be the home team to help keep them up on attendance for Div 1A. Outside of them, we play Troy, North Texas, FIU and other Sun Belt teams. We pay each of them a nice large chuck of change to come play us at home. We typically don’t sell out RRS for these games (unless it is the first game of the year) so we have been losing some revenue there.

Now, somehow I don’t see how a UA/ASU game wouldn’t sell out RRS. It might not but I would be willing to bet it would. The question then would be how much we have to pay them as a lower Div 1A team to come in and get their beat down. Since it would be an instate game, could we get the state to pay some of this money? I really don’t know.

There are some obvious drawbacks to this game (or series if it was to become that). We enjoy being the top dog in the state and remain one of the few teams in the South that can do this. So recruiting the best of the best from Arkansas to come to Fayetteville vice Jonesboro hasn’t been a problem. Could this change if ASU was to beat us or if they got better? Who knows but I doubt it. I think they would have to move into a different conference for that to begin to happen, maybe Conf USA.

I’ve always been practical about things and I would say give a look at all of the specifics, pros & cons to this particular game. Emotion should be left at the door step as it doesn’t help. From an economic standpoint, does it make sense to continue to pay other Sun Belt teams to come to Fayetteville and play and not do it cheaper with ASU? Lots of unknowns that would need to be answered.

Ahh yes! a sensable approach from Ouachita County. Thank you sir Mr. Camden Hogfan!

[ADAM_713]

To be honest I think in the next twenty years it will be a series between UCA and UA not UA vs. ASU.  There is a much larger money base around UCA than ASU.  A much larger potential fan base.  And the fact that UCA was in their first year of D1 last year and still came in with players recruited to a DII school and racked shop.  They are moving up faster than a school like ASU.

[hogfan064]

And none of the instate matchups listed here are comparable to UA/ASU.

LSU/ULM is the only one that I can really think of.

Man, that sure sends goosebumps up and down my spine. 

The LSU/ULM Showdown.

Wow.

We are really missing out.

Clemson plays both The Citadel and SC State this year.  South Carolina plays Wofford. 

Georgia opens with Georgia Southern.

[secfan30]

It's a retarded idea with no real appeal to anybody outside of the state and serves no revenue or exposure purpose whatsoever for the University.


Does LSU play ULM every year?


It's a waste of a schedule spot.

To be honest, us playing a Westeren Illinois, or a utah State does not matter to anyone outside Arkansas, so why not play ASU and keep the money in Arkansas. Besides beating the crap out of them would shut up their annoying fans.

[GuvHog]

Here's what I think should happen. The Hogs should play AState one year then UCA the next. This
game would be called The Governers Cup Classic with the winner recieving the Governers Cup for
that year. Obviously the game would be played in WMS but the U of A would not have to pay to
play in this game. All ticket sales money, Consession money and parking money would be added together and divided this way: The U of A gets 25%, The other team (UCA,or ASU) gets 25%, and
the rest goes into a fund designated to be used solely for the construction of a new State-of-the-art 80,000 seat War Memorial Stadium to be located across Fair park Avenue from the current location. Once the new stadium is complete, the game would obviously move to the new stadium and the money wuold be divided this way: The U of A would get 35%, the other team (ASU or UCA) would get 35%, and the rest would go to WMS (30%).

[ADAM_713]

Lets start a petition amd let the voices be know. UofA is a state school funded by my money. I think we should vote on it. UofA vs ASU make it law like FSU and UofF

Couldn't hurt.  This board did help get Hootie kicked off the hill.

[ADAM_713]

Here's what I think should happen. The Hogs should play AState one year then UCA the next. This
game would be called The Governers Cup Classic with the winner recieving the Governers Cup for
that year. Obviously the game would be played in WMS but the U of A would not have to pay to
play in this game. All ticket sales money, Consession money and parking money would be added together and divided this way: The U of A gets 25%, The other team (UCA,or ASU) gets 25%, and
the rest goes into a fund designated to be used solely for the construction of a new State-of -the-art 80,000 seat War Memorial Stadium to be located across Fair park Avenue from the current location.

hear hear

[WindyCityHog]

Here's what I think should happen. The Hogs should play AState one year then UCA the next. This
game would be called The Governers Cup Classic with the winner recieving the Governers Cup for
that year. Obviously the game would be played in WMS but the U of A would not have to pay to
play in this game. All ticket sales money, Consession money and parking money would be added together and divided this way: The U of A gets 25%, The other team (UCA,or ASU) gets 25%, and
the rest goes into a fund designated to be used solely for the construction of a new State-of -the-art 80,000 seat War Memorial Stadium to be located across Fair park Avenue from the current location.

Yeah....that would quell the age-old GSD.

[hogfan064]

Here's what I think should happen. The Hogs should play AState one year then UCA the next. This
game would be called The Governers Cup Classic with the winner recieving the Governers Cup for
that year. Obviously the game would be played in WMS but the U of A would not have to pay to
play in this game. All ticket sales money, Consession money and parking money would be added together and divided this way: The U of A gets 25%, The other team (UCA,or ASU) gets 25%, and
the rest goes into a fund designated to be used solely for the construction of a new State-of -the-art 80,000 seat War Memorial Stadium to be located across Fair park Avenue from the current location.

I don't see why we can't play UCA and ASU in the same season.  Play ASU every year and rotate UCA/UAPB

Play the games in Fayetteville though.  It would be a certain sellout.

[mword]

UA Vs. ASU - I'll be totally shocked if it ever does happen.

[HotlantaHog]

Not quite instate, but Memphis would seem to be a decent nonconference game -- and Tulsa, as it is this year.

[docmic]

Here's what I think should happen. The Hogs should play AState one year then UCA the next. This
game would be called The Governers Cup Classic with the winner recieving the Governers Cup for
that year. Obviously the game would be played in WMS but the U of A would not have to pay to
play in this game. All ticket sales money, Consession money and parking money would be added together and divided this way: The U of A gets 25%, The other team (UCA,or ASU) gets 25%, and
the rest goes into a fund designated to be used solely for the construction of a new State-of-the-art 80,000 seat War Memorial Stadium to be located across Fair park Avenue from the current location.

How did such a smart guy get so many smites?

[Dutch Creek Hog]

Clemson plays both The Citadel and SC State this year.  South Carolina plays Wofford. 

Georgia opens with Georgia Southern.

And nobody calls any of the above games a "rivalry".

[Dutch Creek Hog]

That couldn't be because we've never had a instate match up could it? Yes those matchups are more valued than UA vs ASU because those States decided not to fall under Communist Tatics such as the Frank Broyles Czarship as Arkansas did. They need to play ASU if were gonna play the likes of Western Illni. If were gonna shove money in ULM's pockets, then play ASU. If you've got the balls to play "The Citidal", Troy, and UNLV play ASU.

LSU/ULM isn't valued.

Maybe in Monroe, but LSU doesn't care.

ASU/UA would be the same.

[Brownie Tuggle]

Not quite instate, but Memphis would seem to be a decent nonconference game -- and Tulsa, as it is this year.

We lost to Memphis 2 out of 3 times in our last contract with them in the mid 90's. Frank dropped the chance to renew it after those embarassments.
The Memphis folks wanted to continue the series. But Big Daddy Frank said that's enough of that Poppycock!!!!!!

[GuvHog]

How did such a smart guy get so many smites?

Read my origional post again, I've amended it so it's even better.

[hogfan064]

And nobody calls any of the above games a "rivalry".

And nobody would call ASU-Arkansas a rivalry either.  Still, it doesn't stop the teams from playing each other.

Heck, UA won't even play ASU in baseball.  That's a series that would pack Baum. 

[Dutch Creek Hog]

And nobody would call ASU-Arkansas a rivalry either.  Still, it doesn't stop the teams from playing each other.

Heck, UA won't even play ASU in baseball.  That's a series that would pack Baum. 

I'm only responding to the folks who cry about us not having an in-state "rival".

We don't.  We won't.

Playing ASU won't change that at all.