Monk and Goodwin

[root_hawg]

Both starting today and on right now on NBATV. 

[Kevin]

was just going to post that. if archie's done with his rookie contract, then he is not making much money in this league

[rude1]

Is brother Marcus there working on the "Monk" brand?

[The_Bionic_Pig]

Take a gander at this:. https://kentucky.forums.rivals.com/threads/monk-and-bacon-to-g-league.252310/

[FineAsSwine]

Is brother Marcus there working on the "Monk" brand?

I think this might just boost his Q score, right?

[oldman1015]

Both starting today and on right now on NBATV. 

Never heard of them.

[FrJoseph]

was just going to post that. if archie's done with his rookie contract, then he is not making much money in this league

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

[rude1]

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

I think you need to go look up a stat on how many NBA players are broke 5 years after their playing days are over, and that includes guys who have made a lot more money than what you are talking about.

[FrJoseph]

I think you need to go look up a stat on how many NBA players are broke 5 years after their playing days are over, and that includes guys who have made a lot more money than what you are talking about.

That's a totally different conversation. I believe that both of these kids have good people around them. Hopefully they want "invest" in their buddies businesses like so many do. I worry more about Malik than i do Archie.

Fr Joe

[King Kong]

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

Goodwin is just about done with NBA money. Europe is now is where he will have to go make money in the future

[FrJoseph]

Goodwin is just about done with NBA money. Europe is now is where he will have to go make money in the future

Many scouts would disagree. If I were advising him, I would tell him to go to Europe and develop his game more. Then come back to the NBA. He relies too much on Athletic ability. As he gets older he will mature.

Fr Joe

[King Kong]

Many scouts would disagree. If I were advising him, I would tell him to go to Europe and develop his game more. Then come back to the NBA. He relies too much on Athletic ability. As he gets older he will mature.

Fr Joe

If they disagreed they wouldn't be signing him to 10 day contracts

[ShadowHawg]

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

After taxes and agent cuts, they get less than half that money in their pocket. They need to anage it well. If they do they can have all the money they will ever need......... in about 15 years

[bkjbearcat]

So both of them are in the G-League? After going to the great basketball factory KY?

Some business decision guys. Mark Zuckerberg would be proud.

[HognitiveDissonance]

That's a totally different conversation. I believe that both of these kids have good people around them. Hopefully they want "invest" in their buddies businesses like so many do. I worry more about Malik than i do Archie.

Fr Joe

Well, we know Malik bought his mom a new house and a car.
Typical first contract purchases, though.

[HogFoo]

Well I guess those of us that kind of predicted Monk to basically not make it in the NBA are being proven right. Same with Goodwin.  Monk's size and game was a dime a dozen. There were lots better players out there than he is at that size.  His whole argument for basically going to UK was just BS. He could have probably went further in ncaa if he came to arkansas, could have been drafted in an equal position if not better, could have been a home state hero when no teams in the NBA want him anymore and when he was done playing in some other country he could have came back to Arkansas with enough money to have lived very well here. He probably could have even got a job as some executive making a very decent salary too.  But, he and his brother Marcus screwed the pooch.  I can't say that I didn't crack a smile seeing him dropped to the G-league . But oh well.  Thats what ya get! 

The only thing worse is hearing ole Nick mason on the radio talking hogs. Especially since he was partners with Marcus to try to get money raised for all the tourneys the Monks were trying to schedule while trying to push the idea it may help the Hogs get Maliks signature while the whole time knowing he was never coming to Arkansas.  Nick mason was part of that too. So yeah I hold  some resentment towards Nick mason as well.  Anyways. 

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Well, we know Malik bought his mom a new house and a car.
Typical first contract purchases, though.

He didn't get a good UK deal then. Normally they take care of that

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

If they disagreed they wouldn't be signing him to 10 day contracts

Mic drop

[labb]

I watched Monk and Goodwin today. First time I have really paid much attention to Monk...didn't see much from Goodwin...Monk though is a different story. He was knocking down the shots. He is a lot quicker than I thought he was. Gets his shot off very quick. If the kid wants to work at it he can be very, very good. Needs to add the drive to the rim and mid range game so that the D has to respect that part of his game and not stack at the three line. Sorry guys but that is what I saw...JMO

[rude1]

I watched Monk and Goodwin today. First time I have really paid much attention to Monk...didn't see much from Goodwin...Monk though is a different story. He was knocking down the shots. He is a lot quicker than I thought he was. Gets his shot off very quick. If the kid wants to work at it he can be very, very good. Needs to add the drive to the rim and mid range game so that the D has to respect that part of his game and not stack at the three line. Sorry guys but that is what I saw...JMO

Context, he was doing that against other G-League players, not the same as doing it against NBA defenses.

[FATHAWG08]

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

5 million for a pro with all the handouts he's dealing with is a recipe to be broke early.

[greasy_corner]

5 million for a pro with all the handouts he's dealing with is a recipe to be broke early.

$5M - tax - monkus mark fees = not enough to feed yo kids

[FrJoseph]

5 million for a pro with all the handouts he's dealing with is a recipe to be broke early.

Hmmmmmm. Where did you play? I would like to know about all of the handouts. My dad played in the early seventies, never mentioned much about the handouts.

Fr Joe

[PORKULATOR]

Never heard of them.

+1
And if i had, they'd be dead to me.

[FATHAWG08]

Hmmmmmm. Where did you play? I would like to know about all of the handouts. My dad played in the early seventies, never mentioned much about the handouts.

Fr Joe

If your Dad did play (would love to see  proof).Also, you're comparing the 70's where the majority of players had second jobs to 2017. Brilliant!!!! Troll much?

[ArkansasI]

5 million for a pro with all the handouts he's dealing with is a recipe to be broke early.

Not taking sides here, but whatever the net figure is for the above is a whole lotta money to me. I appreciate the frustration that comes along with snubbing the Hogs, but our poking fun of these guys making millions at young ages is juvenile.

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

Hmmmmmm. Where did you play? I would like to know about all of the handouts. My dad played in the early seventies, never mentioned much about the handouts.

Fr Joe

NBA now is much different than the Seventies. Now they play games on TV without tape delay

But I believe what the poster is talking about is friends and family wanting a piece of the pie from Malik.  No clue how Malik is handling that situation but it has put many players and musicians in the poor house.

[Letsroll1200]

He was only sent to the G-League for one game. He's back with the Hornets! No big deal and I hope the kid makes a boat load of money for his family.

[parallaxpig]

Goodwin is expendable because of his "small" contract. The salary cap in the NBA is off the charts. He has steadily gotten better and has still made around 4 million. He's 23. Monk can't play defense yet. He still has 5 million in his pocket guaranteed. Both of these kids will make far more money, and so far more good in  their community that their detractors ever will.

Fr Joe

What community would that be?

[woo.pig]

He was only sent to the G-League for one game. He's back with the Hornets! No big deal and I hope the kid makes a boat load of money for his family.

Oh look Nick Mason checking in.

[TheEnemy]

Hmmmmmm. Where did you play? I would like to know about all of the handouts. My dad played in the early seventies, never mentioned much about the handouts.

Fr Joe

He means the many hands out asking for money, i.e. posse, friends, family, baby mommas, hanger-ons, etc...

[FrJoseph]

If your Dad did play (would love to see  proof).Also, you're comparing the 70's where the majority of players had second jobs to 2017. Brilliant!!!! Troll much?

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/John-Ramsey-74819/

Went John Theodore Ramsey. Went by his middle name after he got through playing for obvious reasons. I don't hide behind a fake name. You still didn't answer the question of where you played. I mean, you must have played to know as much inside info.

Fr Joe

[FrJoseph]

What community would that be?

Whatever community they decide to settle in

Fr Joe

[FrJoseph]

He means the many hands out asking for money, i.e. posse, friends, family, baby mommas, hanger-ons, etc...

I wasn't aware that Malik and Archie had a lot of children. ........ or a "Posse" for that matter.

Fr Joe

[FATHAWG08]

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/John-Ramsey-74819/

Went John Theodore Ramsey. Went by his middle name after he got through playing for obvious reasons. I don't hide behind a fake name. You still didn't answer the question of where you played. I mean, you must have played to know as much inside info.

Fr Joe

What does playing college basketball have to do with having inside info? It's been pretty open knowledge on the Monk's. It's very obvious you're not from Arkansas. By the way what college team did you play for? Living off your Dad's accomplishments is pretty sad.

[FrJoseph]

What does playing college basketball have to do with having inside info? It's been pretty open knowledge on the Monk's. It's very obvious you're not from Arkansas. By the way what college team did you play for? Living off your Dad's accomplishments is pretty sad.

Fordham. So in other words it's just a guess?


Fr Joe