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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #50 on: November 14, 2017, 07:11:06 am »

Good luck Florida. We will see how CK does in the SEC if they get him.

I would venture to guess quite well.  Chip made his name at Oregon by reaping the benefits of California talent and speed.  The state of Florida has that in droves.  Luckily they are in the SECe.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #51 on: November 14, 2017, 07:11:50 am »

Would be a great hire.  Within the next 2-3 years the East may be every bit as top heavy as the West depending on who is hired.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #52 on: November 14, 2017, 07:22:56 am »

Hogs need Florida and Tennessee to be good again.  They are LSU's and Bama's permanent East opponents, respectively.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #53 on: November 14, 2017, 07:51:10 am »

A great move by the Gators. CCK built a perennial championship contender in a place that is extremely hard to recruit, with absolutely no tradition, money, or facilities.  Florida is arguably the most fertile recruiting state in the country...and has deep tradition, lots of money, and incredible facilities. Plus, most of Kelly’s salary is still being paid by the 49er’s.

Money or facilities?  Maybe Google "Phil Knight" or "Nike".  See what pops up. 
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #54 on: November 14, 2017, 07:57:54 am »

Money or facilities?  Maybe Google "Phil Knight" or "Nike".  See what pops up.

They aren't necessarily poor but they are not on the same level as Florida.  Phil knight did make a huge contribution a few years back for facilities, but again, it's nothing to the level of UF.

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #55 on: November 14, 2017, 08:18:07 am »

That’s what you get when make the early coaching move.  Unlike us.

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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #56 on: November 14, 2017, 08:24:11 am »

Doesn't the show clause Kelley got at Oregon need SEC approval to get into the league?
The SEC Commish has to approve... Doesn't have to tell anyone but Florida if they ask for the exception. 
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #57 on: November 14, 2017, 01:54:31 pm »

The SEC will approve Kelly if he wants the job ... the home office is desperate to have Florida good and relevant again. Polishes the prestige of the conference, and restores one of the conference's Favored Four

To that, Florida could become a giant again if Kelly does at Florida what he did at Oregon - he will have the recruiting base to do so.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #58 on: November 14, 2017, 01:57:21 pm »

A great move by the Gators. CCK built a perennial championship contender in a place that is extremely hard to recruit, with absolutely no tradition, money, or facilities.  Florida is arguably the most fertile recruiting state in the country...and has deep tradition, lots of money, and incredible facilities. Plus, most of Kelly’s salary is still being paid by the 49er’s.
No money at Oregon?
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #59 on: November 14, 2017, 01:59:59 pm »

No money at Oregon?

I think he means compared to Florida. Oregon does ok thanks to Phil Knight but nothing compared to Florida.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #60 on: November 14, 2017, 02:00:09 pm »


I hate to break this to you. There is simply no way in HELL any high profile name will come to Arkansas at this point. It doesnt matter how early we fire our coach. We are not a destination Job. .

That’s what you get when make the early coaching move.  Unlike us.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #61 on: November 14, 2017, 02:06:49 pm »

If true...look out.
He is going to be able to put the same speed he had at Oregon on the field.

The difference is that at Florida, that speed will not be undersized.

Worst case scenario, Florida football becomes worth watching again.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #62 on: November 14, 2017, 02:13:28 pm »

Sexton isn't chips agent. Not saying it's wrong but...
I saw something on Football Scoop that Florida (and others) were tired of dealing with Sexton clients. 
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #63 on: November 14, 2017, 02:14:15 pm »

This will be similar to when Saban left for Bama. You just knew it would be a decade plus of being unstoppable. This will be it for Florida and he'll be there 10 years.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #64 on: November 14, 2017, 02:14:37 pm »

Hogs need Florida and Tennessee to be good again.  They are LSU's and Bama's permanent East opponents, respectively.
Hogs need Hogs to be good again. Damn Florida and Tennessee. It's time for us to stop depending on other teams to make a mistake and it's time for us to make something happen for ourselves.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #65 on: November 14, 2017, 02:15:00 pm »

Starting to be a lot of smoke on this.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #66 on: November 14, 2017, 02:19:48 pm »

From what I've been told Florida doesn't have all of the money in the world as some would assume.

If motivated, Phil Knight can match anyone.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #67 on: November 14, 2017, 02:21:11 pm »

He is going to be able to put the same speed he had at Oregon on the field.

The difference is that at Florida, that speed will not be undersized.

Worst case scenario, Florida football becomes worth watching again.

Another difference though is that several SEC teams have defensive speed to match.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #70 on: November 14, 2017, 02:24:38 pm »

Just need Nebraska to hire someone not named Scott Frost now.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #71 on: November 14, 2017, 02:25:14 pm »

Supposedly, Chip Kelly does not like to recruit.

If so, then he will not like having to recruit against a resurgent Miami (FL) program and a Florida State program that recruits at an elite level.

He doesn't like to recruit. He pays for it.....
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #72 on: November 14, 2017, 02:27:18 pm »

I hate to break this to you. There is simply no way in HELL any high profile name will come to Arkansas at this point. It doesnt matter how early we fire our coach. We are not a destination Job. .

Your gonna break people's hearts posting that kind of stuff on here.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #73 on: November 14, 2017, 02:30:00 pm »

A great move by the Gators. CCK built a perennial championship contender in a place that is extremely hard to recruit, with absolutely no tradition, money, or facilities.  Florida is arguably the most fertile recruiting state in the country...and has deep tradition, lots of money, and incredible facilities. Plus, most of Kelly’s salary is still being paid by the 49er’s.

You clearly don't know much about Eugene. He didn't build that program. They had had 1 losing season in the decade before he became HC, 2 top 10 finishes, and 4 double digit win seasons, including the year before Kelly took over. It was a similar situation to Bielema as Kelley was the OC who took over for the retired HC after the HC moved on to become the school's athletic director.

Oregon isn't that hard of a place to recruit to. Certainly a lot harder than say Florida, but the sheer number of recruits from california is enough to fuel almost the entire pac 12.

No tradition? In the previous 20 years, that team went to 17 bowl games. 3 top 10 finishes. 8 seasons finishing ranked in the AP. Joey Harrington and Dennix Dixon as heisman finalists. The ducks had more tradition in the 20 years leading up to Kelly than the hogs did leading up to Petrino. Just that there is absolutely a strong east coast bias when it comes to football. Even after winning the superbowl, the sea hawks still could barely get any coverage outside of the PNW.

No money? Ever heard of Uncle Knight? I.e. Phil Knight? In total revenue, the Ducks in 2008 (year before Kelley took over) ranked 40th in total revenue, but pulled in more donations than the teams ahead of them up to 17th place in total revenue. They've boosted that in recent years now ranking at 23rd in part due to the steady build of their branding (something that Long gets made fun of for focusing on) as well as increasing ticket prices (again, something long gets made fun of), focusing on expensive suites, as well as getting a couple extra million out of the students now.

They have some of the nicer facilities out there. This was what they were working with back in 2002. They had a major upgrade in 2013 as well. If anything, Oregon has in part been driving the facilities arm race.

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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2017, 02:39:43 pm »

You clearly don't know much about Eugene. He didn't build that program. They had had 1 losing season in the decade before he became HC, 2 top 10 finishes, and 4 double digit win seasons, including the year before Kelly took over. It was a similar situation to Bielema as Kelley was the OC who took over for the retired HC after the HC moved on to become the school's athletic director.

Oregon isn't that hard of a place to recruit to. Certainly a lot harder than say Florida, but the sheer number of recruits from california is enough to fuel almost the entire pac 12.

No tradition? In the previous 20 years, that team went to 17 bowl games. 3 top 10 finishes. 8 seasons finishing ranked in the AP. Joey Harrington and Dennix Dixon as heisman finalists. The ducks had more tradition in the 20 years leading up to Kelly than the hogs did leading up to Petrino. Just that there is absolutely a strong east coast bias when it comes to football. Even after winning the superbowl, the sea hawks still could barely get any coverage outside of the PNW.

No money? Ever heard of Uncle Knight? I.e. Phil Knight? In total revenue, the Ducks in 2008 (year before Kelley took over) ranked 40th in total revenue, but pulled in more donations than the teams ahead of them up to 17th place in total revenue. They've boosted that in recent years now ranking at 23rd in part due to the steady build of their branding (something that Long gets made fun of for focusing on) as well as increasing ticket prices (again, something long gets made fun of), focusing on expensive suites, as well as getting a couple extra million out of the students now.

They have some of the nicer facilities out there. This was what they were working with back in 2002. They had a major upgrade in 2013 as well. If anything, Oregon has in part been driving the facilities arm race.

Their 2013 upgrades are insane...put them in the upper echelon of programs.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #76 on: November 14, 2017, 02:42:54 pm »

Just need Nebraska to hire someone not named Scott Frost now.
Kelly to Florida would pretty much assure Frost to Nebraska, wouldn't you think?
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #77 on: November 14, 2017, 02:43:26 pm »

Florida will be Oregon 2.0 with Kelly at the helm.

You mean no defense and unable to win big games?
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #78 on: November 14, 2017, 02:47:35 pm »

You mean no defense and unable to win big games?

that works for me.   Let em get all excited about the flash  and still be just outside the circle.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #79 on: November 14, 2017, 02:50:06 pm »

You clearly don't know much about Eugene. He didn't build that program. They had had 1 losing season in the decade before he became HC, 2 top 10 finishes, and 4 double digit win seasons, including the year before Kelly took over. It was a similar situation to Bielema as Kelley was the OC who took over for the retired HC after the HC moved on to become the school's athletic director.

Oregon isn't that hard of a place to recruit to. Certainly a lot harder than say Florida, but the sheer number of recruits from california is enough to fuel almost the entire pac 12.

No tradition? In the previous 20 years, that team went to 17 bowl games. 3 top 10 finishes. 8 seasons finishing ranked in the AP. Joey Harrington and Dennix Dixon as heisman finalists. The ducks had more tradition in the 20 years leading up to Kelly than the hogs did leading up to Petrino. Just that there is absolutely a strong east coast bias when it comes to football. Even after winning the superbowl, the sea hawks still could barely get any coverage outside of the PNW.

No money? Ever heard of Uncle Knight? I.e. Phil Knight? In total revenue, the Ducks in 2008 (year before Kelley took over) ranked 40th in total revenue, but pulled in more donations than the teams ahead of them up to 17th place in total revenue. They've boosted that in recent years now ranking at 23rd in part due to the steady build of their branding (something that Long gets made fun of for focusing on) as well as increasing ticket prices (again, something long gets made fun of), focusing on expensive suites, as well as getting a couple extra million out of the students now.

They have some of the nicer facilities out there. This was what they were working with back in 2002. They had a major upgrade in 2013 as well. If anything, Oregon has in part been driving the facilities arm race.


They are behind like 10 sec schools in revenue. It looks like they barely break even.  Florida will definitley allow more resources for Kelly. He may kill it at UF
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #80 on: November 14, 2017, 02:53:21 pm »

Just need Nebraska to hire someone not named Scott Frost now.

Boy, if Nebraska doesn't hire Frost they're dumb as hell.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #81 on: November 14, 2017, 03:05:05 pm »

Doesn't the show clause Kelley got at Oregon need SEC approval to get into the league?

I'm about 100% certain Kelley's show of cause letter has expired.  Further, I'm not an attorney and I never stayed at Howard Johnson (or whatever motel applies) but I would bet if the SEC got into this and caused Kelley to lose the position at Florida, he might never have to work again, if he chose not too. 

Trial lawyers and human resources experts would know for sure, I'm certain of that.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #82 on: November 14, 2017, 03:10:11 pm »

Why wouldn't FL go after Mullen - he and the AD are besties.

No they are not.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #83 on: November 14, 2017, 03:17:47 pm »

It seemed that Kelly was at Oregon forever as HC, but he was only there four years. After that, he spent four horrible years in the NFL. Back in 2009, the HUNH was pretty new, but now so many teams are doing it makes you wonder if it would transition to the SEC or not.

I think the spread will work in the SEC, still.  Saban is scared to death of it.  An adept play caller helps.  Of course they have to have athletes, but then I can think of four, Lincoln Riley, The Mad Pirate, the dude this thread is about, and the Clemson OC, who could get the job done in the SEC.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #84 on: November 14, 2017, 03:19:35 pm »

Kelly to Florida would pretty much assure Frost to Nebraska, wouldn't you think?

Not necessarily.  I was reading an article about Nebraska candidates earlier today and Frost wasn't even mentioned.

Of course it may very well be Frost.  Hopefully they pass on him, though.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #85 on: November 14, 2017, 03:23:26 pm »

They are behind like 10 sec schools in revenue. It looks like they barely break even.  Florida will definitley allow more resources for Kelly. He may kill it at UF

Never said Florida wouldn't offer more resources. Just denouncing the idea that they were a school that had no money, no tradition, no facilities, and were in a dead in the water location to recruit.

Oregon was already a school churning out wins, producing heisman finalists, have had facilities that could compete with anybody in the country's this entire millennia, and had enough money to to accomplish this, largely as Nike itself funds the school.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #86 on: November 14, 2017, 03:53:31 pm »

Don't buy it. Finebaum and others who actually know and talk with him all say he will coach again on the west coast

May be the absolute truth, but the dude was born and raised in New Hampshire.  And except for a short stint at Nevada, he coached in the northeast until he went Oregon in 2007. 

Still he might have had a rebirth while in Oregon or San Fran.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #87 on: November 14, 2017, 03:58:46 pm »

Strickland tweeted pics of him on campus all day today speaking to classes. Student have as well citing he is in our class...not Connecticut.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #88 on: November 14, 2017, 03:58:59 pm »

Hogs need Hogs to be good again. Damn Florida and Tennessee. It's time for us to stop depending on other teams to make a mistake and it's time for us to make something happen for ourselves.

Bingo. I don’t want to win the West or the SECC because everyone else sucks or has gotten beat by other opponents. I want to win because WE are good!
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #89 on: November 14, 2017, 04:10:16 pm »

I hate to break this to you. There is simply no way in HELL any high profile name will come to Arkansas at this point. It doesnt matter how early we fire our coach. We are not a destination Job. .


I known it for at least 25 years, but that knowledge doesn't make it any easier to accept.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #90 on: November 14, 2017, 04:16:20 pm »

Wouldnt say it looks like Chip to FL. They have strong interest,  like every other opening in college football.

Would be a great hire for the SEC/Florida if it happens.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #91 on: November 14, 2017, 04:17:20 pm »

Boy, if Nebraska doesn't hire Frost they're dumb as hell.

I think Frost will wind up at A&M ...
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #92 on: November 14, 2017, 04:23:01 pm »

I think Frost will wind up at A&M ...

I can think of a lot worse places to go, Nebraska for instance.  Ties be darned.  Nebraska may be a worse job than Arkansas right now.  At least we have Texas, La and Miss next door for recruiting.

He would be a killer at A&M.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #93 on: November 14, 2017, 04:33:33 pm »

Welcome to the real SEC, Jeff Long.
Where the only sin that's unforgivable is a loss on a Saturday, to a conference foe!  ;)
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #94 on: November 14, 2017, 04:50:48 pm »

Not so fast my friend.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #95 on: November 14, 2017, 04:52:14 pm »

Bingo. I don’t want to win the West or the SECC because everyone else sucks or has gotten beat by other opponents. I want to win because WE are good!

Like I told a couple of angry fans at the Auburn game, “It’s not Auburn’s fault we suck”.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #96 on: November 14, 2017, 05:01:10 pm »

I hate to break this to you. There is simply no way in HELL any high profile name will come to Arkansas at this point. It doesnt matter how early we fire our coach. We are not a destination Job. .
Apparently we are for one guy!
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #97 on: November 14, 2017, 05:11:22 pm »

A great move by the Gators. CCK built a perennial championship contender in a place that is extremely hard to recruit, with absolutely no tradition, money, or facilities.  Florida is arguably the most fertile recruiting state in the country...and has deep tradition, lots of money, and incredible facilities. Plus, most of Kelly’s salary is still being paid by the 49er’s.

Oregon is hard to recruit to and has no money or facilities? Phil Knight disagrees.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #98 on: November 14, 2017, 05:13:31 pm »

With the right assistants, he will not have to and there is plenty of talent in Florida to go around.

He didn't have all that great of Assistants when he was at Oregon.

Kelly may find the recruiting a tough sled in the State of Florida.  He won't have NIKE recruiting for him like he had at Oregon.
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Re: Looks like Chip Kelley to Florida
« Reply #99 on: November 14, 2017, 05:15:04 pm »

I would surmise that any "leaks" right now are designed with purpose.  Agents are playing a bunch of schools against others and coaches against coaches.  It is all par of driving the market price.

He may end up at FL but there's a lot of smoke from multiple places right now, including hogville.
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