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Bielema: No conversations With Long
« on: November 13, 2017, 09:14:04 pm »

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« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 09:17:18 pm »

Irwin's article from today's presser for those interested...

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/bielema-no-conversations-with-long/856950948
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Re: Bielema No Conversations With Long
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 09:21:31 pm »

So we will be great with all the redshirt sophomores and depth but we will offer a lot of JC players playing time. What?
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Re: Bielema No Conversations With Long
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2017, 09:22:58 pm »

So we will be great with all the redshirt sophomores and depth but we will offer a lot of JC players playing time. What?

Hey like he said - it's full steam ahead  ::)
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2017, 09:24:00 pm »

Five years and he needs more time. No thanks, Maybe he can put his cliches on tv and earn money.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2017, 09:25:38 pm »

You think they'd at least be seeing if one or the other had any leads.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 09:44:39 pm »

Paul Rhoades is quoted talking about Bielema: ""He has not deviated from our approach in staying the course. I think consistency is a big factor..." I certainly agree Bielema has stayed the course and been consistent in his losing. 
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 09:48:57 pm »

Irwin's article from today's presser for those interested...

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/bielema-no-conversations-with-long/856950948
Makes sense because Long has no say in the firing of Bielema. Besides, Bielema thinks practices are great, so why would anyone believe anything he says at this point?
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 10:12:48 pm »

Lol bert.  It's really a good thing we are terrible, it'll help with selling recruits on playing time.  Genius...
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 10:16:47 pm »

If we are luck Long is gone first.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 10:42:52 pm »

Paul Rhoades is quoted talking about Bielema: ""He has not deviated from our approach in staying the course. I think consistency is a big factor..." I certainly agree Bielema has stayed the course and been consistent in his losing. 
Does anyone do it better?
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 10:59:15 pm »

I bet Jeff is thinking.  I was told these Arkies were a group of total dumbasses and that proved true for nearly 10 years.  I made the perfect hire in Bret and now they are blaming me.  Wonder just how bad it will get if they ever figure out we are tens of millions over budget on the North Endzone project and any of them are smart enough to know how it got that way.  Maybe i better start looking for another gig.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 11:17:08 pm »

I bet Jeff is thinking.  I was told these Arkies were a group of total dumbasses and that proved true for nearly 10 years.  I made the perfect hire in Bret and now they are blaming me.  Wonder just how bad it will get if they ever figure out we are tens of millions over budget on the North Endzone project and any of them are smart enough to know how it got that way.  Maybe i better start looking for another gig.

Most Yankees think that way about southerners
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 12:21:03 am »

I bet Jeff is thinking.  I was told these Arkies were a group of total dumbasses and that proved true for nearly 10 years.  I made the perfect hire in Bret and now they are blaming me.  Wonder just how bad it will get if they ever figure out we are tens of millions over budget on the North Endzone project and any of them are smart enough to know how it got that way.  Maybe i better start looking for another gig.
He probably got that idea in his head from logging in to Hogville.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2017, 01:03:26 am »

Most Yankees think that way about southerners

As a southerner, theyíre mostly right.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2017, 02:05:35 am »

Most Yankees think that way about southerners
Unfortunately most Yankees stupidity believe the civil war was about slavery when less than 6% of southerners owned slaves and less than 35% benefited from it! So what did the other 65% fight for? Hmmmm
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2017, 06:48:51 am »

There is nothing I don't like about your hc. He is pure class, and as real as they come.

To bad it did not work out for him.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2017, 07:11:33 am »

Did anyone expect him to say, "Yeah, Long and I have talked. I will probably be let go after the Missouri game. I have really enjoyed my time and the money I've made at Arkansas. Thanks for the catfish!"
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2017, 07:54:27 am »

There is nothing I don't like about your hc. He is pure class, and as real as they come.

To bad it did not work out for him.


What about him is real as they come? The guy is so full of **it and full of himself.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2017, 08:39:36 am »

There is nothing I don't like about your hc. He is pure class, and as real as they come.

To bad it did not work out for him.


Except he can not develop players nor win games.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2017, 08:40:57 am »

Not according to everyone that I know, and according to them the players really like him.

I think both he and Long are the types of people you would like to see be successful. Quality people.

To bad that is not the world we live in, and it is getting more difficult for people of good character like them to be successful, and don't ask me why, but that is not their problem.

Name the successful coaches today, especially in the SEC,  that people don't think, or know are cutting corners.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2017, 08:41:17 am »

Unfortunately most Yankees stupidity believe the civil war was about slavery when less than 6% of southerners owned slaves and less than 35% benefited from it! So what did the other 65% fight for? Hmmmm

In Arkansas, regardless of how many owners there were, 25% of the population was slave.

Even Confederate soldiers and Confederate leaders admitted the war was about slavery. Go to Pea Ridge. Itís there.  Stop denying fact. Even those who didnít  own slaves didnít believe in ending slavery.  The 6% figure is pure misdirection.  Owning or not owning slaves has NOTHING to do with support for slavery.

And, the war wasnít started by the 65%.  It was started and led by the wealthy. The same wealthy that owned or benefitted from slaves.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2017, 08:43:09 am »

coaches are professional liars, deceivers, & manipulators
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2017, 08:44:23 am »

Except he can not develop players nor win games.
Right, and I'm not discussing that. That's just business.

Still would like to see people like him and Long be successful.

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2017, 08:55:43 am »

In Arkansas, regardless of how many owners there were, 25% of the population was slave.

Even Confederate soldiers and Confederate leaders admitted the war was about slavery. Go to Pea Ridge. Itís there.  Stop denying fact. Even those who didnít  own slaves didnít believe in ending slavery.  The 6% figure is pure misdirection.  Owning or not owning slaves has NOTHING to do with support for slavery.

And, the war wasnít started by the 65%.  It was started and led by the wealthy. The same wealthy that owned or benefitted from slaves.

I'm sure you think WWII was about saving the world.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #25 on: November 14, 2017, 08:57:48 am »

I'm sure you think WWII was about saving the world.

Iím sure that you have no clue.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #26 on: November 14, 2017, 09:00:59 am »

Nothing left to say but Dilly! Dilly!
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #27 on: November 14, 2017, 09:01:11 am »

Iím sure that you have no clue.

Whatever makes you feel better.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #28 on: November 14, 2017, 09:10:08 am »

Nothing left to say but Dilly! Dilly!

What does that mean?

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« Reply #29 on: November 14, 2017, 09:17:32 am »

I know of no reputable historian in all of Academia who doesn't believe that the chief cause of the Civil War was slavery. It wasn't the only cause but by far the overwhelming one. Even the leaders of the Confederacy admitted as much at the time. I guess you might dig one up from Bob Jones or Liberty or East Podunk State but no one at a reputable school would agree.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2017, 09:58:41 am »

I know of no reputable historian in all of Academia who doesn't believe that the chief cause of the Civil War was slavery. It wasn't the only cause but by far the overwhelming one. Even the leaders of the Confederacy admitted as much at the time. I guess you might dig one up from Bob Jones or Liberty or East Podunk State but no one at a reputable school would agree.

Correct.  And most of them freely admit it is the economic aspect of slavery that led the way. Not the immorality of slavery.  I'm not claiming the North opposed slavery primarily because it was immoral.  I'm claiming (along with those experts) that slavery was supported in the South and opposed in the North because the South's economy required cheap labor and slavery provided it.  And many leaders and soldiers of the Civil War said as much in letters, speeches, etc.  I visited Pea Ridge the other day and read several of the quotes from Southerners at the time who said the war was about preserving slavery.
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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2017, 09:59:14 am »

I know of no reputable historian in all of Academia who doesn't believe that the chief cause of the Civil War was slavery. It wasn't the only cause but by far the overwhelming one. Even the leaders of the Confederacy admitted as much at the time. I guess you might dig one up from Bob Jones or Liberty or East Podunk State but no one at a reputable school would agree.

My mother is a southern Civil War historian. Sheíll be the first to tell you that the war was about slavey and the narrative that it wasnít helps southerners distance themselves from the core moral conundrum with the war, while still giving them something to be proud of in their heritage. Identity is a funny beast.
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Re: Bielema: No Conversations With Long
« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2017, 10:04:14 am »

coaches are professional liars, deceivers, & manipulators

The only relevant thing said since about the 4th comment.
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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2017, 10:18:05 am »

The only relevant thing said since about the 4th comment.

Irrelevant.
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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2017, 10:29:12 am »


Even Confederate soldiers and Confederate leaders admitted the war was about slavery. Go to Pea Ridge. Itís there.  Stop denying fact. Even those who didnít  own slaves didnít believe in ending slavery.  The 6% figure is pure misdirection.  Owning or not owning slaves has NOTHING to do with support for slavery.

well here's a confederate solider, an arkansan and writing at the time in his own words who had a different take.

It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all.  Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for.  It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.


that was patrick cleburne's view on why we fought that war. we named a county after him, he's kinda a big deal.

that war might have been fought by the south to preserve slavery, but it darned sure wasn't fought by the north to end slavery. it was fought by the north to preserve the excise tax on cotton which by 1861 provided 90% of all federal revenue. that's a simple fact.
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« Reply #35 on: November 14, 2017, 10:30:45 am »

Does anyone really expect him to say anything different?
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« Reply #36 on: November 14, 2017, 10:33:22 am »

Makes sense because Long has no say in the firing of Bielema. Besides, Bielema thinks practices are great, so why would anyone believe anything he says at this point?

From what I've seen this year on both sides, I'm sure practices are great!
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« Reply #37 on: November 14, 2017, 10:36:10 am »

What does that mean?



A moderator on a sports message board apparently doesn't watch sports on tv.

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« Reply #38 on: November 14, 2017, 10:47:24 am »

Bret Bielema discusses his job situation:

http://www.nwahomepage.com/razorback-nation/bielema-no-conversations-with-long/856950948

Good news in there.  Maybe an extra 5 signees this class.  Will have an upperclassmen team over the next couple of seasons.  One senior starting on offense is crazy.  Goes back to not stockpiling more at positions like oline and being forced to play too many early instead of getting to redshirt. 
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« Reply #39 on: November 14, 2017, 11:21:57 am »

A moderator on a sports message board apparently doesn't watch sports on tv.



I mostly watch replays, but even when I watch live sports I am jumping back and forth, during commercials. Never watch that one through to the end.
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« Reply #40 on: November 14, 2017, 11:35:21 am »

How did a thread about a quote from the current head football coach devolve into a debate about the civil war...sigh
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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2017, 05:51:01 pm »

So we will be great with all the redshirt sophomores and depth but we will offer a lot of JC players playing time. What?

Yeah, those JCS are gonna come in and make an immediate impact... like Deion Malone, Paul Ramirez, Brandon Martin, Britto Tutt and all the others.

The only impact they have made is their butts making an impact on the bench, or in Martin's case on Whaley's jaw.

If I hear that idiot say "I get it" one more time..
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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2017, 05:54:15 pm »

well here's a confederate solider, an arkansan and writing at the time in his own words who had a different take.

It is said slavery is all we are fighting for, and if we give it up we give up all.  Even if this were true, which we deny, slavery is not all our enemies are fighting for.  It is merely the pretense to establish sectional superiority and a more centralized form of government, and to deprive us of our rights and liberties.


that was patrick cleburne's view on why we fought that war. we named a county after him, he's kinda a big deal.

that war might have been fought by the south to preserve slavery, but it darned sure wasn't fought by the north to end slavery. it was fought by the north to preserve the excise tax on cotton which by 1861 provided 90% of all federal revenue. that's a simple fact.

As with the wars fought in the past century and this century, it's all about money.
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2017, 06:41:51 pm »

How did a thread about a quote from the current head football coach devolve into a debate about the civil war...sigh
And that's the great thing about Hogville - life is not dull  ;)
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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2017, 08:21:09 pm »

As a southerner, theyíre mostly right.

Completely agree, we've earned that perspective of others regardless of geography.
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2017, 08:37:34 pm »

Right, and I'm not discussing that. That's just business.

Still would like to see people like him and Long be successful.


Guess you are ok with the off field behavior? You must have liked Sutton as well.
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« Reply #46 on: November 14, 2017, 09:23:03 pm »

Guess you are ok with the off field behavior? You must have liked Sutton as well.
I don't remember if I liked him or not, to long ago. Thought he was a good coach.

Think the only Razorback coach I ever just liked was Lou Holtz. You could not help but like him.

As far as every other coach, what I thought about them depended on their record at the time you asked.
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« Reply #47 on: November 14, 2017, 09:23:26 pm »

How did a thread about a quote from the current head football coach devolve into a debate about the civil war...sigh


It's tardville.


Morons abound
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Re: Bielema: No conversations With Long
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2017, 09:26:12 am »

Quite obvious now why BB has not to talked to JL.
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« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2017, 10:27:26 am »

He definitely wont be having that conversation with long now  ;)
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