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There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« on: November 12, 2017, 09:36:49 pm »

Not Ryan Mallet messing up the dorm leak but you get what I'm saying. Anyone know anyone attending U of A? What  are they saying?
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2017, 09:37:48 pm »

Players are the last to know.

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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2017, 09:43:18 pm »

No way, players I think would get a heads up prior to it breaking.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2017, 10:31:14 pm »

No way, players I think would get a heads up prior to it breaking.
They would be the last to know right before it comes out
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #4 on: November 12, 2017, 10:33:03 pm »

No way, players I think would get a heads up prior to it breaking.

Not true.

Hogville knew about Pittman leaving before many players knew.
« Last Edit: November 12, 2017, 11:22:43 pm by factchecker »
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #5 on: November 12, 2017, 11:02:34 pm »

What do you want to know? 

Players actually by a large percentage really like and support Bielema.  There are one or two position coaches not very well liked among players, surprisingly to me Anderson is really liked in the Oline room.  Players aren't stupid, they know it's possible a change could be made after this season.   They also honestly believe they are playing hard and fighting for this coach, it's just not working out. 

Also a side note, there are unfortunately many players currently upset with the fanbase.  They have been called many things when walking off the field and during games that really suprised some of them.  As I've been told, it's not just a comment about a fumble or one bad play, it's been multiple games and multiple just really bad things.  They are disturbed and bothered by these comments.

Players won't have time to leak any news unless Bielema resigns, in my opinion.  If he were to resign, I could see a team meeting called and he let them know what's about to go on.  If he's canned I assume it's made and he's give. A short time to talk to players as it's being leaked right before a press conference. 
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2017, 05:00:51 am »

What do you want to know? 

Players actually by a large percentage really like and support Bielema.  There are one or two position coaches not very well liked among players, surprisingly to me Anderson is really liked in the Oline room.  Players aren't stupid, they know it's possible a change could be made after this season.   They also honestly believe they are playing hard and fighting for this coach, it's just not working out. 

Also a side note, there are unfortunately many players currently upset with the fanbase.  They have been called many things when walking off the field and during games that really suprised some of them.  As I've been told, it's not just a comment about a fumble or one bad play, it's been multiple games and multiple just really bad things.  They are disturbed and bothered by these comments.

Players won't have time to leak any news unless Bielema resigns, in my opinion.  If he were to resign, I could see a team meeting called and he let them know what's about to go on.  If he's canned I assume it's made and he's give. A short time to talk to players as it's being leaked right before a press conference. 

Where did you get any of this information?
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2017, 05:49:33 am »

Where did you get any of this information?

He makes it all up out of thin air....

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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2017, 05:51:23 am »

And that's the hardest way to do it.

Thick air is much better as an information source.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2017, 06:06:33 am »

He is right. I've heard the same thing, although that doesn't mean it is true. I've heard from a guy who heard from a guy who knows someone on the team (not even joking) so it absolutely must be true.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2017, 06:08:38 am »

Also heard that some of the team leaders are not very well liked by some of the other players. Take it for what it's worth.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2017, 06:11:17 am »

He is right. I've heard the same thing, although that doesn't mean it is true. I've heard from a guy who heard from a guy who knows someone on the team (not even joking) so it absolutely must be true.

This guy knows a guy on the team.

Where did you get any of this information?

And.... It's not a friend of a friend.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2017, 06:40:04 am »

Ask and you shall receive.  Check out this tweet from Saturday night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CMorse418/status/929606358307131392

CK was doing a little celebrating.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #13 on: November 13, 2017, 06:41:39 am »

Players seem to always back the coach. Ex. John L Smith lol
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #14 on: November 13, 2017, 07:25:37 am »

Players will probably leak when the announcement is less than 24 hours away.  However, I doubt seriously that they have been told anything definitive at this point.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #15 on: November 13, 2017, 08:01:11 am »

And that's the hardest way to do it.

Thick air is much better as an information source.

Speaking of thick air, I made some Paul Eels chili cheese dip Saturday.  My wife is just now starting to recover from the Dutch Oven she had to endure the whole night.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #16 on: November 13, 2017, 08:28:14 am »

Ask and you shall receive.  Check out this tweet from Saturday night.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CMorse418/status/929606358307131392

CK was doing a little celebrating.

Lol.

Keep pushin, my man.

https://twitter.com/CMorse418/status/930073860518629376
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #17 on: November 13, 2017, 09:16:20 am »

What do you want to know? 

Players actually by a large percentage really like and support Bielema.  There are one or two position coaches not very well liked among players, surprisingly to me Anderson is really liked in the Oline room.  Players aren't stupid, they know it's possible a change could be made after this season.   They also honestly believe they are playing hard and fighting for this coach, it's just not working out. 

Also a side note, there are unfortunately many players currently upset with the fanbase.  They have been called many things when walking off the field and during games that really suprised some of them.  As I've been told, it's not just a comment about a fumble or one bad play, it's been multiple games and multiple just really bad things.  They are disturbed and bothered by these comments.

Players won't have time to leak any news unless Bielema resigns, in my opinion.  If he were to resign, I could see a team meeting called and he let them know what's about to go on.  If he's canned I assume it's made and he's give. A short time to talk to players as it's being leaked right before a press conference. 

I have to disagree with you here.  I know a player on the team and they are not happy with Bret and several other coaches.  In fact, he is even considering leaving if Bret is retained for next year. 
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #18 on: November 13, 2017, 09:20:28 am »

What do you want to know? 

Players actually by a large percentage really like and support Bielema.  There are one or two position coaches not very well liked among players, surprisingly to me Anderson is really liked in the Oline room.  Players aren't stupid, they know it's possible a change could be made after this season.   They also honestly believe they are playing hard and fighting for this coach, it's just not working out. 

Also a side note, there are unfortunately many players currently upset with the fanbase.  They have been called many things when walking off the field and during games that really suprised some of them.  As I've been told, it's not just a comment about a fumble or one bad play, it's been multiple games and multiple just really bad things.  They are disturbed and bothered by these comments.

Players won't have time to leak any news unless Bielema resigns, in my opinion.  If he were to resign, I could see a team meeting called and he let them know what's about to go on.  If he's canned I assume it's made and he's give. A short time to talk to players as it's being leaked right before a press conference. 
I've heard different about Andersons popularity with the players.
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Re: There's got to be leaks from players to students.
« Reply #19 on: November 13, 2017, 09:21:27 am »

I have to disagree with you here.  I know a player on the team and they are not happy with Bret and several other coaches.  In fact, he is even considering leaving if Bret is retained for next year.

Plays favorites too much?
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« Reply #20 on: November 13, 2017, 09:23:35 am »

Plays favorites too much?
I've heard a certain coach doesn't like being made fun of, to the degree that he wouldn't play the best players if they were guilty of it.
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« Reply #21 on: November 13, 2017, 12:32:50 pm »

I read the whole post and before I read the name on it was almost fooled into believing it.  Oneredrubi come up with some of the most rediculous post I’ve read on HV.

Oh really?  Like what?  To make a statement such as that you shouldn't have any issue coming up with proof to back it up. 

This came from a current player.  I will not share his name in the open like this.  I will howeve share it with a mod as done in the past or FOTH to verify.
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« Reply #22 on: November 13, 2017, 01:38:46 pm »

And that's the hardest way to do it.

Thick air is much better as an information source.
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« Reply #23 on: November 13, 2017, 01:41:25 pm »

Oh really?  Like what?  To make a statement such as that you shouldn't have any issue coming up with proof to back it up. 

This came from a current player.  I will not share his name in the open like this.  I will howeve share it with a mod as done in the past or FOTH to verify.

I messaged with onebadrubi and got his perspective and source.  There are over 100 guys on the roster and they have different perceptions and different things effect them different ways.  After talking, I have no doubt that what he shared is accurate.  Again, one players perception of things can be the polar opposite of another players, but I believe onebadrubi is giving an accurate description of what he was told.   I personally have heard similar statements and I’ve also heard the opposite.  No one is on the same page.  I think that’s a testament to the current level of dysfunction. 
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« Reply #24 on: November 13, 2017, 01:42:02 pm »

Doesn't matter. This is a team, a season, a program that has gone to sh*t. Hypocrite fired BP for Sunday School and now stinks.
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« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2017, 01:44:53 pm »

It’s just like when Hootie was coach.  His favorites love him.  Those who aren’t “his guys” think he is a fat boob.
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« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2017, 01:45:22 pm »

apparently one of our posters was close enough to the sidelines at the Auburn game and witnessed some things with players (his post).  Also, a Razorback mom of a defensive player (?) was crying and saying if BERT wasn't fired then this player (?) would transfer.

NOTE:  Can't remember the post or who made it but it was the Auburn game (his take).
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« Reply #27 on: November 13, 2017, 01:48:25 pm »

apparently one of our posters was close enough to the sidelines at the Auburn game and witnessed some things with players (his post).  Also, a Razorback mom of a defensive player (?) was crying and saying if BERT wasn't fired then this player (?) would transfer.

NOTE:  Can't remember the post or who made it but it was the Auburn game (his take).

Probably wasn't seeing the field, happens everywhere.
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« Reply #28 on: November 13, 2017, 01:49:15 pm »

Lol.

Keep pushin, my man.

https://twitter.com/CMorse418/status/930073860518629376
Are these the Twitter posts that said Cole Kelly and his boys were doing shots Saturday night in celebration of Bielema's impending employment demise?
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« Reply #29 on: November 13, 2017, 01:50:47 pm »

Are these the Twitter posts that said Cole Kelly and his boys were doing shots Saturday night in celebration of Bielema's impending employment demise?

I'm late to the party...every time I click the links the pages don't exist.
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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2017, 01:51:17 pm »

I think our play on the field pretty much sums up what you need to know about our locker room.
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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2017, 01:52:46 pm »

Are these the Twitter posts that said Cole Kelly and his boys were doing shots Saturday night in celebration of Bielema's impending employment demise?

They're gone now, so who knows?
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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2017, 01:52:55 pm »

Probably wasn't seeing the field, happens everywhere.


Rice, I looked for the post but couldn't find it.   A lot was said (observations) of the demeanor of the players on the sidelines as well as the mom.   Maybe you can find it, interesting post.
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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2017, 01:54:46 pm »


Rice, I looked for the post but couldn't find it.   A lot was said (observations) of the demeanor of the players on the sidelines as well as the mom.   Maybe you can find it, interesting post.

I read it when it was posted, as I said, usually those unhappy aren't playing.
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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2017, 01:55:10 pm »

Are these the Twitter posts that said Cole Kelly and his boys were doing shots Saturday night in celebration of Bielema's impending employment demise?

Yes. The initial Tweet was a joke Tweet that sensationalists and those who will believe anything believed.

The Tweet that I posted was the same guy following up basically saying, "Chill. That wasn't real."
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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2017, 01:55:55 pm »

They're gone now, so who knows?


That tweet was made sarcastically
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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2017, 01:56:10 pm »

They're gone now, so who knows?
Yeah I'm sure they have been taken down.  But I was talking to someone who saw the "celebration party" tweet in real time.  Just wondered if it was these.
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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2017, 02:26:26 pm »

Yeah I'm sure they have been taken down.  But I was talking to someone who saw the "celebration party" tweet in real time.  Just wondered if it was these.

This "this celebration party" happens every Saturday night. It just gets blown out of proportion when they lose.
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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2017, 04:31:23 pm »

Plays favorites too much?

No, he actually plays a substantial amount of time.  He just doesn't like the way the personnel handles things and doesn't like the atmosphere they bring.
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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2017, 04:32:26 pm »

apparently one of our posters was close enough to the sidelines at the Auburn game and witnessed some things with players (his post).  Also, a Razorback mom of a defensive player (?) was crying and saying if BERT wasn't fired then this player (?) would transfer.

NOTE:  Can't remember the post or who made it but it was the Auburn game (his take).

We may know the same mom. 
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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2017, 05:45:25 pm »

apparently one of our posters was close enough to the sidelines at the Auburn game and witnessed some things with players (his post).  Also, a Razorback mom of a defensive player (?) was crying and saying if BERT wasn't fired then this player (?) would transfer.

NOTE:  Can't remember the post or who made it but it was the Auburn game (his take).

Was this the post about a recruits parents saying they couldn't believe how the fans treated their own players?  It was during one of those brutal times this season where the staff's lack of effort was proven on the field, IMO
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« Reply #41 on: November 13, 2017, 05:47:31 pm »

I messaged with onebadrubi and got his perspective and source.  There are over 100 guys on the roster and they have different perceptions and different things effect them different ways.  After talking, I have no doubt that what he shared is accurate.  Again, one players perception of things can be the polar opposite of another players, but I believe onebadrubi is giving an accurate description of what he was told.   I personally have heard similar statements and I’ve also heard the opposite.  No one is on the same page.  I think that’s a testament to the current level of dysfunction.

Thanks FOTH.  I'm by no means saying every player feels the same way.  I fully believe players like clary feel different than Hammonds, morgan different than Baptiste and so forth. 

I have real issues with obvious coaching decisions with whose playing, I'm positive players do as well. I was quite amazed however, that this staff still had some players attention and support. 
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« Reply #42 on: November 13, 2017, 10:58:51 pm »

Ummmm, totally different story from what a starter told me during their off week. I was told and I quote “Bielema is not the same coach that recruited me; he’s worried about his reputation and show more than the team”
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« Reply #43 on: November 13, 2017, 11:14:36 pm »

Not Ryan Mallet messing up the dorm leak but you get what I'm saying. Anyone know anyone attending U of A? What  are they saying?
Because coaches make a habit of talking about getting fired in front of the players?  I mean, I believe they can get a vibe or a feel for what is going on but as has been mentioned several times, it is likely to vary from one player to the next.
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« Reply #44 on: November 13, 2017, 11:54:41 pm »

Ummmm, totally different story from what a starter told me during their off week. I was told and I quote “Bielema is not the same coach that recruited me; he’s worried about his reputation and show more than the team”

If Bielema is worried about his reputation it seems to be a bit late.  Pretty sure putting the best players on the field and putting them in a position to succeed and winning some games would have taken care of the " reputation".  His reputation, at this point, is basically a reflection of his coaching ability.   Or lack thereof.
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« Reply #45 on: November 14, 2017, 08:56:42 am »

Ummmm, totally different story from what a starter told me during their off week. I was told and I quote “Bielema is not the same coach that recruited me; he’s worried about his reputation and show more than the team”

Hard to defend himself if an AD were to ask why did you have a freshman blue shirt starting over merrick or Wallace.  Or how does a play maker like TJ ride the pine, etc. 

I definitely agree with the first part however.  There are roughly 150 people Bielema has either employed, recruited, or staffed.   I think you could get 120 or more different stories or philosophies.  Some like the guy, some support the guy, some can't wait for his replacement, some even wish he'd probably stay but get a better supporting cast, and I bet even someone wishes we had a special teams coach.

We won't know many of the truths until this staff is broken up. Like many times in the past, assistant coaches will release a little info here and there at their next stop, players will say a few tidbits to media in the spring as well if a new coach and staff are in place.
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