BB is a coward.......

[007 License To Squeal]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

[RollHogTide]

It does appear that he likes to take a knee. 

[Oliver]

I certainly wouldn't call him a coward.  That fake punt call took balls.

Now ignorant on the other hand...

[Hogvillage Idiot]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

Good point.

[Jamie Jones]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

[Silver Hog]

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

So true, better to just give up.

[TNRazorbacker]

I didn't understand the Neil down either. Not when you have one of the best kickers in college football. Hocker is probably the best offensive player we have- no joke. You have to at least give him a shot at winning the game for you.  Overly conservative and just not making the most of the tools at his disposal.

[BallHog1]

Better to go to ot than watch a pick six end it in regulation

[westside_player]

I have no problem with that strategy. The best chance to win was to get in to over time. This is not a quick strike offense. It's more probable we throw a pick then get a FG at that point on the field with that time left

[Silver Hog]

Better to go to ot than watch a pick six end it in regulation

just prolongs the pick till overtime, nothing gained.

[cmiller01]

Coward punted instead of kicking the field goal in the first half.

Put a knee on the ground at halftime and just before the end of regulation instead of trying to get into FG range.

[Jamie Jones]

So true, better to just give up.

Allen throws a pick six, trying to make something happen, and it is truly over in regulation.

[DukeOfPork]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

You are either ignorant about football or you hadn't watched the prior 59 minutes of the game.

Why would you think we had any chance at driving with a few seconds on the clock?  There was a much higher probability of throwing a pick 6 than in driving for a field goal.

[OhGreatOne]

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

I think his point is ... go down fighting and try to get into FG range....if BA throws an INT at end of reg vs OT, what difference does it make?

[007 License To Squeal]

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

No.  You don't get it. Taking a knee there took the game out of our control, and gave equal leverage and momentum to Miss St. 

[dagnamit]

You are either ignorant about football or you hadn't watched the prior 59 minutes of the game.

Why would you think we had any chance at driving with a few seconds on the clock?  There was a much higher probability of throwing a pick 6 than in driving for a field goal.

a tie in regulation is something to build on.

[ricepig]

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

I don't even understand why you bother to answer these types, they think it's an x-box game.

[007 License To Squeal]

I think his point is ... go down fighting and try to get into FG range....if BA throws an INT at end of reg vs OT, what difference does it make?

Bingo!

[Jamie Jones]

I think his point is ... go down fighting and try to get into FG range....if BA throws an INT at end of reg vs OT, what difference does it make?

MSU was in FG range. An int with any kind of return and they kick a fg in regulation...if they don't return it for a td. And nobody knew what was going to happen in OT. By this logic, we should never punt and people should shut up about the fake punt.

[dagnamit]

I don't even understand why you bother to answer these types, they think it's an x-box game.

come on RP. Tell me why he did not let the best field goal kicker in the land put 3 on the board.

[Jim Bo From Fort Smith]

Odds of throwing pick six in regulation were much less than the odds of losing in OT.

This was no-brainer.  Take a shot at big play to get into field goal range.

Please people.  It ain't beleimer's fault.  Anyone gonna take the multi-million dollar contract.  But that don't make him smarter than a hog farmer.

[ErieHog]

I think his point is ... go down fighting and try to get into FG range....if BA throws an INT at end of reg vs OT, what difference does it make?

It makes a huge difference.   It significantly increases the probability of winning, to move the game to short field OT.

[gchamblee]

are you guys ignoring the collins fumble on the game winning drive?

[007 License To Squeal]

You are either ignorant about football or you hadn't watched the prior 59 minutes of the game.

Why would you think we had any chance at driving with a few seconds on the clock?  There was a much higher probability of throwing a pick 6 than in driving for a field goal.

Predicting a long, long pick 6 is a stretch. 

[dagnamit]

are you guys ignoring the collins fumble on the game winning drive?

or the fumble they had

[Jim Bo From Fort Smith]

Odds of a pick six are what?  10%?

Odds of losing in OT are what?  50%.

Like I said, NO BRAINER.  Take some shots downfield for big play to get into field goal range.  It worked for Auburn last week.

This is not calculus.  Even a hog farmer should be able to do this math.

[Redhogs]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

Been doing it all damn year...Bert will NEVER big win in the SEC....mark it down.

[Oliver]

It makes a huge difference.   It significantly increases the probability of winning, to move the game to short field OT.

With all these poorly timed fake punt calls, since when does Bielema give a crap about percentages.

[Hogeration]

You are willing to put the pressure of moving the team 30-35 yards, with 19 seconds left and no timeouts on a qb who hasn't seen 75% of his open receivers all season and proved at the end of overtime that he cannot handle the weight of the offense in crunch time? You are the very type of fan who just does not get it.

At this point in a horrible season...Hell yeah. You don't get it. We had nothing to lose today. We faked a punt when we should have just lined up and gone for it. If you have lost seven games in a row, conservation is out the window.

[Speedracer]

Allen throws a pick six, trying to make something happen, and it is truly over in regulation.

Unfortunately I agree.  With a recent coach we had I would have said absolutely you're going for the FG.  But since we are stuck with the current staff and QB, nothing good could have come out of that situation. Gawd we're screwed

[gchamblee]

ok this is embarrassing, i accidentally stepped into a darksider thread. carry on, ill show myself out.

[ErieHog]

Predicting a long, long pick 6 is a stretch. 

It doesn't have to be a pick 6 to lose the game;  you turn the ball over and they get it in FG range, and you've lost the game just as effectively.

Keep in mind this is an offense that turns it over about every 21 PA, in all situations, and about every 12 on 3rd downs.    So, we're going to initiate a down the field passing attack, in an obvious down the field situation,  in the belief that we're going to magically flip the field, and completely buck our history of down the field passing failure,  all while being more predictable.

[hogtheball]

At very least, you run a sweep or two (if you can get out of bounds).  Those yards are easier at the end of a game than in overtime.

[Atlhogfan1]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

They don't trust Allen or the wr's.  That is clear with our play calls.  They weren't going to put Allen in a position to lose the game.  Plus our wr's struggle getting separation.  You are reaching for something to criticize him for where there were other legit concerns. 

Been doing it all damn year...Bert will NEVER big win in the SEC....mark it down.

Bret

[ErieHog]

With all these poorly timed fake punt calls, since when does Bielema give a crap about percentages.

Field position plays are the only relatively good gambles.  You'll be playing against the odds with our talent level all day, so you take the most likely favorable outcomes possible.   You don't see three long shots, two bad bets, and one slightly bad bet, and say  'Put all our money on the longest shot!'

[bphi11ips]

I certainly wouldn't call him a coward.  That fake punt call took balls.

Now ignorant on the other hand...

Has it occurred to anyone that the fake punts and onsides kicks are a not so subtle message that "it's not my fault"?

[rlreev01]

I would not put in writing the caption on this post. I might suggest that you say that to his face in private and find out who the real coward might be.  Calling someone a coward from the safety of a internet screen name really proves your manhood also. Idiots!!!

[Oliver]

Field position plays are the only relatively good gambles.  You'll be playing against the odds with our talent level all day, so you take the most likely favorable outcomes possible.   You don't see three long shots, two bad bets, and one slightly bad bet, and say  'Put all our money on the longest shot!'

Field position plays are only good gambles in the right situation. 

Today's play was the equivalent of having two pair and discarding three cards to try to get three of a kind.

[ErieHog]

Field position plays are only good gambles in the right situation. 

Today's play was the equivalent of having two pair and discarding three cards to try to get three of a kind.

20% is always better than 5%.

[Oliver]

20% is always better than 5%.

And could both still be ignorant, unnecessary plays.

[Atlhogfan1]

Has it occurred to anyone that the fake punts and onsides kicks are a not so subtle message that "it's not my fault"?

Seems to be more desperation as in he thinks he is undermanned and needs to take risks.  I still don't know if that was 100% his call even if he takes the responsibility for it(and correctly so).  It was a poor decision as we were not undermanned today even holding our backs out for a qtr today. 

[SMB Hogfan]

He had one of the best FG kickers ready.  But BB chose to put the game into OT with enough time left to get Hocker in range...sickening at best.   I would never have thought JLS would have a better season than BB.  This was a winnable game.

It was winnable. Blame is entirely at the feet of the fat boy and his million dollar staff.

[Redhogs]

They don't trust Allen or the wr's.  That is clear with our play calls.  They weren't going to put Allen in a position to lose the game.  Plus our wr's struggle getting separation.  You are reaching for something to criticize him for where there were other legit concerns. 

Bret

Bert...... as in Bert and Ernie.

[ricepig]

come on RP. Tell me why he did not let the best field goal kicker in the land put 3 on the board.

When, early in the game?

[007 License To Squeal]

It makes a huge difference.   It significantly increases the probability of winning, to move the game to short field OT.

Wrong. OT gives both teams equal leverage.  BB should have played to let Hocker win the game in REGULATION before goinig into OT.

[Atlhogfan1]

Bert...... as in Bert and Ernie.

Bret as in no reason to disrespect or get personal.  Show some class as a Hog fan if you are actually a Hog fan. 

[ErieHog]

Wrong. OT gives both teams equal leverage.  BB should have played to let Hocker win the game in REGULATION before goinig into OT.

And equal opportunity is a significant improvement from our situation at the end of regulation.

Home teams actually win OT games at closer to a 55% clip; throw in having the clearly better kicking game, and that is among the easier coaching decisions to be made-- you play for OT.

[Hogarusa]

What Hogs team have you guys been watching all season to believe we could have got 30 yards in 19 seconds with no timeouts?

[Uberanubis]

Odds of a pick six are what?  10%?

Odds of losing in OT are what?  50%.

Like I said, NO BRAINER.  Take some shots downfield for big play to get into field goal range.  It worked for Auburn last week.

This is not calculus.  Even a hog farmer should be able to do this math.

I guess you have not watch much Arkansas football this year. but here is a  simple question. how many times had BA crumbled, by throwing an interception, at the most in opportune time.

now obviously we only extended the game out. not trying to bash buit there was a higher then 50% chance that BA would have thrown the pick at the end of regulation and the d would have folded and mississipi would have scored.

It doesn't have to be a pick 6 to lose the game;  you turn the ball over and they get it in FG range, and you've lost the game just as effectively.

Keep in mind this is an offense that turns it over about every 21 PA, in all situations, and about every 12 on 3rd downs.    So, we're going to initiate a down the field passing attack, in an obvious down the field situation,  in the belief that we're going to magically flip the field, and completely buck our history of down the field passing failure,  all while being more predictable.

They don't trust Allen or the wr's.  That is clear with our play calls.  They weren't going to put Allen in a position to lose the game.  Plus our wr's struggle getting separation.  You are reaching for something to criticize him for where there were other legit concerns. 

Bret

at least there are some intelligent people on this board

[hawgfan4life]

It is OK to go for a CHANCE at a winning FG in a situation that pretty much had NO chance of it working and a far greater chance at a stupid play that could set MSU up for a winning FG and it was poor coaching to go for a fake punt on 4th and 2 near midfield with a fake they had practiced and prepared for based on the alignment they expected from MSU?  This logic is far more stupid than that you pile onto the coach.  I am a more stupid fan for reading this garbage.  Some of the people that have all the answers on this board are great entertainment.