5.4 seconds left after timeout

[Birddawg23]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

[Arazorbackguy1]

Hindsight it 2020

[code red]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

Totally agree we were fortunate to win in ot...... absolutely a cluster in the last possession of regulation.

[ShadowHawg]

Yep. Every other coach has a play in their pocket that works from 94 feet away except for MA

[(notOM)Rebel123]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

Great 12th post. Geez.

[East TN HAWG]

I have a different question here, and it is not directed at MA.  Why do colleges not go for the 2 for 1 when the clock is running down like the pros do? 

[Breems]

I can personally vouge for Mike that his go-to offensive set with 5.4 seconds remaining is Barford drawing a double-team in the backcourt, struggling to get up the court, and chucking a long 3.

Called him tonight and he's considering drawing up a new play, so don't fret.

[FineAsSwine]

Couldn't the negativity wait until tomorrow. We just won a double overtime game on the road. Who's looking for something to complain about immediately after a win that we had to have.

What about the fortitude shown by the team to shrug off that play and move on and fight to the finish in a very physical and tough game.

Just not understanding the mindset of some of our fans.

[TNhawgfan]

Yep. Every other coach has a play in their pocket that works from 94 feet away except for MA

True. GA got off a better shot with only 1.4 seconds left

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Couldn't the negativity wait until tomorrow. We just won a double overtime game on the road. Who's looking for something to complain about immediately after a win that we had to have.

What about the fortitude shown by the team to shrug off that play and move on and fight to the finish in a very physical and tough game.

Just not understanding the mindset of some of our fans.

+1

[ShadowHawg]

True. GA got off a better shot with only 1.4 seconds left

Lol. The shot was a bad angle bank that didn't draw iron, just like ours.

[TNhawgfan]

Lol. The shot was a bad angle bank that didn't draw iron, just like ours.

It was a better look than barfords, but I didn't say it was a great look. Point is we should have got a better shot with the amount of time left

[hoglady]

I'm about 100% certain that's not what Mike wanted them to do.
But it's basketball - sometimes the defense doesn't allow you to do what you want, or you're a step slow and can't get around the defender.

[sowmonella]

Couldn't the negativity wait until tomorrow. We just won a double overtime game on the road. Who's looking for something to complain about immediately after a win that we had to have.

What about the fortitude shown by the team to shrug off that play and move on and fight to the finish in a very physical and tough game.

Just not understanding the mindset of some of our fans.

They are NOT fans.

[hoglady]

Couldn't the negativity wait until tomorrow. We just won a double overtime game on the road. Who's looking for something to complain about immediately after a win that we had to have.

What about the fortitude shown by the team to shrug off that play and move on and fight to the finish in a very physical and tough game.

Just not understanding the mindset of some of our fans.

Apparently not - it's just relentless and non stop.
Seems there's a bunch in here who aren't too happy with the win.

[pghawg1]

  Bitch if we win and bitch if we lose. SAD

[ShadowHawg]

It was a better look than barfords, but I didn't say it was a great look. Point is we should have got a better shot with the amount of time left

Please tell how you would have done so.

With 5 seconds you can't throw it length of the court in a tie game like you can with 1.4 and trailing by 3.

When they showed the baseline view replay, GA had the situation very well defended. They doubled Barford by leaving Thompson unguarded 90 feet from the basket.

The only thing I saw we could have done differently was have Macon inbound to Barford and reverse the ball back to Macon which would still leave you with a half court attempt.

[hobhog]

Please tell how you would have done so.

With 5 seconds you can't throw it length of the court in a tie game like you can with 1.4 and trailing by 3.

When they showed the baseline view replay, GA had the situation very well defended. They doubled Barford by leaving Thompson unguarded 90 feet from the basket.

The only thing I saw we could have done differently was have Macon inbound to Barford and reverse the ball back to Macon which would still leave you with a half court attempt.

That was what I thought we'd try. Or let Macon get inbound since he is quicker off dribble and better FT shooter. Whatever. 20-20.

[hobhog]

Apparently not - it's just relentless and non stop.
Seems there's a bunch in here who aren't too happy with the win.

You have to be realistic. People are frustrated with overall product. Happens to every coach not getting over hump eventually. Football season was brutal for last two years. If we get on a roll it will quiet things, but it just doesn't feel that way.

I'll be at OSU Saturday and hope for best, but will need a strong season end run to think MA is our best future.

[AirWarren]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

14-6.

Fire mike!!!!

[rude1]

Just simply a play where the defensive call guessed correctly on what the offensive set was going to be. The offense was going to get Barford the ball and let him run off the pick by TT and get to the open court headed to the rim, defense nullified by leaving TT and jump doubling Barford with TT, only open man in Barford's vision was TT, he took his only other remaining option. 

[HogMantheIntruder]

I'm about 100% certain that's not what Mike wanted them to do.
But it's basketball - sometimes the defense doesn't allow you to do what you want, or you're a step slow and can't get around the defender.

This is what I was thinking. Barford was tired and he couldn't split the defenders and go charging in for a layup at the buzzer, which is what I assume they were going  for (or a foul). You could argue that MA should have known that, but hindsight and whatnot.

[CapitalCityHawg]

Throwing a long pass is potentially disastrous in that situation too. If we had tried that it's possible they could get the ball back with little to no time off the clock

[k.c.hawg]

I bitched about it too. Mike put 3 men downcourt trying to clear traffic from the backcourt for Barford. They countered by letting Thompson inbound and doubled Barford. If Barford tries to split it and they steal it or if he tries to throw over the top and they deflect it, there is a good chance we lose the game. I think CMA thought Barford would have a chance to drive towards half court and hit Macon on the wing.  When you are down 16 early and the worst you can do is have a safe attempt to win or potentially give the game up, play safe. I did here them say CMA is 9-1 in his last 10 one possession games. Yeah I know hogville.....he's so damn lucky.

[hawginbigd1]

I can personally vouge for Mike that his go-to offensive set with 5.4 seconds remaining is Barford drawing a double-team in the backcourt, struggling to get up the court, and chucking a long 3.

Called him tonight and he's considering drawing up a new play, so don't fret.

Well it seems at the end of halves and games we only run slight variations of this same exact play every single time! So let's hope he comes up with a new one!

[FineAsSwine]

Well it seems at the end of halves and games we only run slight variations of this same exact play every single time! So let's hope he comes up with a new one!

9-1 in one possession games. Doesn't need to change a thing.

[alaback]

What does the OP think of the play Eddie Sutton drew up in the NCAA tournament against Louisville, down by 1 with 5 seconds left?

[East TN HAWG]

9-1 in one possession games. Doesn't need to change a thing.

One of the main reasons we are 9-1 is because Macon shoots free throws really well in the clutch.  Wining teams close it out on the free throw line.  Our guards are solid on the free throw line. 

[PonderinHog]

What does the OP think of the play Eddie Sutton drew up in the NCAA tournament against Louisville, down by 1 with 5 seconds left?

Well, according to Abe Lemons, Eddie had God as his point guard.  That always helps.

[logic]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

That was stupid. Georgia had 1.9 and go a shot off from 20 feet. It is also stupid to have 60 remaining and let the clock run down so you only get one position instead two.

[TebowHater]

https://twitter.com/Aaron_Torres/status/955974673539330048

This is the same national pundit who asked if he could adopt the hogs this year as his team (early in the year) since his favorite team sucked. AKA he isn't biased against us, in facts wants to root for us. That said, he is correct. We must have the lowest scoring percentage out of time outs from any team - and I am not even concerned about this one with 5.4 seconds left - there were many more / worse.

[hoglady]

You have to be realistic. People are frustrated with overall product. Happens to every coach not getting over hump eventually. Football season was brutal for last two years. If we get on a roll it will quiet things, but it just doesn't feel that way.

I'll be at OSU Saturday and hope for best, but will need a strong season end run to think MA is our best future.

I am realistic - this basketball season does not mirror our football season in anyway at all.
We are currently sitting with a 25 RPI and are pretty solidly in the NCAA tournament.
There's no reason for the constant negativity - at this point we could end up with a great, good, mediocre or poor season. There's still tons of basketball yet to play.
Picking apart every win instead of being happy about it doesn't make sense to me.

[RedBird5]

Great 12th post. Geez.

Great rebuttal.  Geez.   Why the the fact that most  people don't have time to post 20,000 times on here mean they don't get an opinion?  Seriously would love an explanation. 

[niels_boar]

Barford should have passed ahead to Thompson, who might have had time to find an open player for a decent shot.  Still, teams don't score that often in that situation.  As a Hawks fan, Mike Budenholzer is a master at getting a wide-open look after a timeout during a game.  However, in four years I don't recall the Hawks hardly ever getting a decent look out of a timeout with 5 seconds or less in the game, even with the ball advanced. 

[jm]

It was just the normal conservative call.
1)Get it in bounds and do not lose possession at all cost.
2) Get a shot off toward the rim with a second left and hope for a make or tip in, but make sure you do not leave any time on the clock after if rebounded.
3) If you don't make it the game is still tied when play resumes. If you win it with 5 seconds, that is fine but make sure you don't lose the game with 5 seconds left and possession.

[Birddawg23]

Great 12th post. Geez.

Sorry I'm not a keyboard warrior on here like you. Most people like you are the reason I try to avoid posting on here. Your post count doesn't give you a superior opinion. I dont get my kicks in life based on my post count or star rating on a message board.

I'm not a hater. I love Mike and think he has done good things here. We are trending up from when he got here. If we are going to take the next step we have to play better and Mike has to coach better in certain situations.

[BannerMountainMan]

I am realistic - this basketball season does not mirror our football season in anyway at all.
We are currently sitting with a 25 RPI and are pretty solidly in the NCAA tournament.
There's no reason for the constant negativity - at this point we could end up with a great, good, mediocre or poor season. There's still tons of basketball yet to play.
Picking apart every win instead of being happy about it doesn't make sense to me.

+1

[Hoggish1]

True. GA got off a better shot with only 1.4 seconds left

Hammer meet nail or the other way round...

[hogfanny]

Sorry I'm not a keyboard warrior on here like you. Most people like you are the reason I try to avoid posting on here. Your post count doesn't give you a superior opinion. I dont get my kicks in life based on my post count or star rating on a message board.

I'm not a hater. I love Mike and think he has done good things here. We are trending up from when he got here. If we are going to take the next step we have to play better and Mike has to coach better in certain situations.

+1 Birdog. Could not have been stated any better.

[onebadrubi]

This wasn't the only dumb boneheaded I'll prepared out of a timeout play call late in a game by Mike.  We saw one just a week or two ago

[Inhogswetrust]

Well, according to Abe Lemons, Eddie had God as his point guard.  That always helps.

That says a lot about Abe's relationship with him moreso than Eddie's.

[daBoar]

Yep. Every other coach has a play in their pocket that works from 94 feet away except for MA

That's pretty danged critical. Did you notice that the UGA player that was fed the ball as we "fouled" the driving guard just prior to the 5.4 second spot camped for nearly 6 seconds in the paint.  It's not a 5 second rule there, by the way. Concurrently, the guard who was awarded foul shots with only 5.4 minutes left clearly committed an offensive charge (if any foul were to be called); Gafford clearly had solid position.

[1highhog]

And that was the play call??? I'm a mike fan but that was awful coaching. Losing faith

It was a bad play call, but as another poster said, hindsight is 20/20.  I'm no coach, but in that time of the game and with Macon being as unconscious as he was draining contested 3pointers from long range, I would have put the ball in Macons hands and let him go to work.