Malzahn Non Compete

[jimmur74]

Surely Auburn has language regarding a Non Compete with other SEC schools. I just think the theory he may come is pipe dreams.

[Tusks]

He does not.

[moses_007]

He will be our coach immediately after the season is over if he doesn't have a non-compete clause in his contract.

I support Malzahn returning home!

[DeltaBoy]

Get on the Gus Bus !

[Grizzlyfan]

Most people familiar with the contract believe that Malzahn would have to be fired in order to take another job in the SEC.

[JOKERHOG]

Surely Auburn has language regarding a Non Compete with other SEC schools. I just think the theory he may come is pipe dreams.

Auburn is arrogant enough to think no one would leave Auburn for another school.  Funny thing is they barely have a winning record against us since we joined the SEC.  they are not near the program they think they are.

[ADavisTheGOAT]

What's his buyout if he were to leave Auburn?

[Mellon Collie]

Surely Auburn has language regarding a Non Compete with other SEC schools. I just think the theory he may come is pipe dreams.

Nodoby puts baby in a corner.

[ricepig]

https://2michy3wy0l30d34041dt1et-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/football/wp-content/uploads/coach-contracts/gusmalzahn-auburnu-employment-contract.pdf

[S.A.D.C]

https://2michy3wy0l30d34041dt1et-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/football/wp-content/uploads/coach-contracts/gusmalzahn-auburnu-employment-contract.pdf

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[Hogwild]

Auburn is arrogant enough to think no one would leave Auburn for another school.  Funny thing is they barely have a winning record against us since we joined the SEC.  they are not near the program they think they are.

They have played Vanderbilt over 40 times, and Auburn doesn't have a winning record against them.   Pretty sure when Tulane was in the SEC they beat Auburn more times than they lost.

[Hawg Life]

Surely Auburn has language regarding a Non Compete with other SEC schools. I just think the theory he may come is pipe dreams.

It's not going to be Gus!!!!

[ur]

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+1
He's free to go. Buyout is only the contracts of assistants that don't go with him or stay at auburn. Peanuts compared to other buyouts considering most of the assistants are ark or aub guys. I could see two or three staying with the next coach at aub. All the others come to ark.

[solitons]

Gus will be a good hire, but I just don't see why he leaves Auburn when he is doing so well there

[Grizzlyfan]

This is how Dudley Dawson put it on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/Dedsports/status/930588822756319232

[Hog10S]

I thought I saw a $500k per year for each year remaining under the contract for a Buyout should the coach terminate the Agreement.  However, the agreement linked to terms out 12/31/17, and I assume there has been an extension at some point in the past. Otherwise, the Buy Out is nothing really.

[Sooie71923]

Gus will be a good hire, but I just don't see why he leaves Auburn when he is doing so well there

theres no cushion at Auburn like there is Arkansas. if he has a year he doesnt do well at Auburn, hes out. if he has a year he doesnt do well at Arkansas, nobody bats an eye.

[dpetty121263]

Gus would not be that successful at Arkansas..Arkansas doesn't have the talent Auburn has access to.

[Godfather]

I thought I saw a $500k per year for each year remaining under the contract for a Buyout should the coach terminate the Agreement.  However, the agreement linked to terms out 12/31/17, and I assume there has been an extension at some point in the past. Otherwise, the Buy Out is nothing really.

Extended to 2020.  Still not a huge buyout.  I scanned it all.  Kinda interesting to read all the money thrown a coaches way for winning. 

Dudes not eating ramen ever again.

[Pigsknuckles]

Get on the Gus Bus !

[jimmiewkersh]

Actually took the time to read the contract.  While it is legaleze and a fine read, it is obvious that there is NOT a non-compete clause pertaining to any conference, division or school.  There is a Buy-Out clause, but it appears to be obligatory.  There is nothing within the contract to keep him from going anywhere at any time as long as he is willing to pay the school for terminating his portion of the contract.

[ur]

Actually took the time to read the contract.  While it is legaleze and a fine read, it is obvious that there is NOT a non-compete clause pertaining to any conference, division or school.  There is a Buy-Out clause, but it appears to be obligatory.  There is nothing within the contract to keep him from going anywhere at any time as long as he is willing to pay the school for terminating his portion of the contract.

He doesn't owe any for his contract. He only owes for the contracts of assistants that don't go with him or do not stay at auburn.

[Perennial 8-4 Team]

The contract states that, if he is not fired by Auburn, he must give written notification to the Athletic Director before he has contact with any prospective employers.

So he does not have a non-compete clause. He is free to negotiate without Arkansas if he's not fired; all he has to do is give written notice to Auburn's AD.

[ricepig]

He doesn't owe any for his contract. He only owes for the contracts of assistants that don't go with him or do not stay at auburn.

He has to pay off the loan he got to pay off ASU, haha.

[Perennial 8-4 Team]

The contract states that, if he is not fired by Auburn, he must give written notification to the Athletic Director before he has contact with any prospective employers.

So he does not have a non-compete clause. He is free to negotiate without Arkansas if he's not fired; all he has to do is give written notice to Auburn's AD.

Free to negotiate with Arkansas*

Apologies

[PorkSoda]

What's his buyout if he were to leave Auburn?

not enough

[PorkSoda]

Gus would not be that successful at Arkansas..Arkansas doesn't have the talent Auburn has access to.

bull crap

[jvanhorn]

bull crap

If you don't think this is right, then you don't understand college football and recruiting.  I am not saying I like it, I am saying that it is a fact.

[Donny2665]

It's not going to be Gus!!!!

You're gonna be mad if it is.

[ur]

He has to pay off the loan he got to pay off ASU, haha.

ahhh true. Prob equal to a couple of jeff's jet rides.

[dc10x5555]

Get on the Gus Bus !

I have the seat right behind the driver

[Russ22]

Even if he had a non-compete clause, I think it would be difficult for a university to try and test this in court. I know Jeff Long was big on these clauses, but they were never tested - maybe other SEC schools didn't want the coaches the Hogs were gathering on the Hill.

[PorkSoda]

If you don't think this is right, then you don't understand college football and recruiting.  I am not saying I like it, I am saying that it is a fact.

I just think its a BS excuse by people who are afraid to compete if success isn't guaranteed.

[ricepig]

ahhh true. Prob equal to a couple of jeff's jet rides.

Dang, what are they charging per/hour for the Lear?

[Iwastherein1969]

Just get on the GUS BUS
drop off the key Jeffie,
Go on a diet Bret
and eat your food FAT FREE !

[ricepig]

Even if he had a non-compete clause, I think it would be difficult for a university to try and test this in court. I know Jeff Long was big on these clauses, but they were never tested - maybe other SEC schools didn't want the coaches the Hogs were gathering on the Hill.

Helped with Enos and Georgia.

[HoggyCat]

He has no non-compete clause. And I hear crap all the time about two "dream job clauses".  Well, read for yourself


https://2michy3wy0l30d34041dt1et-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/football/wp-content/uploads/coach-contracts/gusmalzahn-auburnu-employment-contract.pdf

[Tusks]

Actually took the time to read the contract.  While it is legaleze and a fine read, it is obvious that there is NOT a non-compete clause pertaining to any conference, division or school.  There is a Buy-Out clause, but it appears to be obligatory.  There is nothing within the contract to keep him from going anywhere at any time as long as he is willing to pay the school for terminating his portion of the contract.

Did you review the contract for the benefit of the Razorback foundation ?

[ShadowTheHedgehog]

I don't want Gus, but the Auburn games will be more intense if he comes.

[PorkSoda]

Helped with Enos and Georgia.

yeah, you see them for assistants.  I dont think I've ever heard of one for a HC.  even the assistant clauses usually have an exception if they take a HC position.

[1highhog]

Surely Auburn has language regarding a Non Compete with other SEC schools. I just think the theory he may come is pipe dreams.

There is no theory, just a bunch of BS from posters who don't know any better.  Gus Malzahn has no interest coming here to coach Arkansas, God almighty people!!

[HoggyCat]

It's not going to be Gus!!!!

And Long wasn't getting fired either....

[ur]

Dang, what are they charging per/hour for the Lear?

I hear $5-6k per hour but not sure what they figure into that equation. Prob the note on it also. Jeffy had to have a fancy newer jet instead of the old one. 

[Silver Hog]

Gus would not be that successful at Arkansas..Arkansas doesn't have the talent Auburn has access to.

I seriously do not understand this mentality. ANY school has access to any kid in the country.  Get a good coach, the kids will come.  Gus can recruit, he has proven that. Look what he did at Tulsa , look what he did at A-State, look what he did twice (and now three times) at Auburn. 

If we can't compete with Auburn, what the hell are we even doing in the SEC anymore.  That is such a loser attitude, drives me nuts.

[farmhawg]

And Long wasn't getting fired either....

[Michael D Huff AIA]

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburnauthority/2016/09/18/13795-million-decision-potential-buyout-analysis-gus-malzahn-his-staff/90623234/

[ricepig]

I hear $5-6k per hour but not sure what they figure into that equation. Prob the note on it also. Jeffy had to have a fancy newer jet instead of the old one. 

The old one wouldn't hold up under Bielema, Chaney, and Pittman on recruiting trips. The newer one can only handle Bielema and Anderson...

[Perennial 8-4 Team]

Even if he had a non-compete clause, I think it would be difficult for a university to try and test this in court. I know Jeff Long was big on these clauses, but they were never tested - maybe other SEC schools didn't want the coaches the Hogs were gathering on the Hill.

This would not be difficult to test in court; it's very cut-and-dry in the contract. Also, Jeff and Bret failed to install non-compete clauses in contracts until Sam Pittman left us for Georgia (and Chaney before him, although I don't think anyone was too upset about that). 

[HoggyCat]

Gus will be a good hire, but I just don't see why he leaves Auburn when he is doing so well there

Maybe because he's tired of the "win or be fired" mentality three or four weeks per year.

[ur]

http://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/story/sports/college/auburnauthority/2016/09/18/13795-million-decision-potential-buyout-analysis-gus-malzahn-his-staff/90623234/

That's if they fire him. Him leaving is in there also and I've stated what he owes before.