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lakecityhog

You speak of libel after the crap you type?? That's a laugh!

WilsonHog

One thing I think is pretty much undisputed is that the most excited our fan base has been in years was the day Bobby Petrino was hired. Truth be told, Petrino has come out of this thing as if it never happened. We, on the other hand, have little to show for it.

 

Farmer Hogget

"The simplest response I have is: I'm sorry. These two words seem very inadequate. But that is my heart," Petrino said in a statement. "All I have been able to think about is the number of people I've let down by making selfish decisions. I've taken a lot of criticism in the past. Some deserved, some not deserved. This time, I have no one to blame but myself.

"I chose to engage in an improper relationship. I also made several poor decisions following the end of that relationship and in the aftermath of the accident. I accept full responsibility for what has happened."

mckinneyhog5

Quote from: redneckfriend on September 12, 2017, 09:15:31 pm
I love the experts on this board. Literally "everyone" knew Bobby P. was screwing a girl he recommended for a legitimate position. I mean it was common knowledge- Long knew it, the chancellor knew it, the president knew it-go Bobby! and does she have a sister? So what was the problem for goodness sake? I mean why fire a coach who could beat everyone but Alabama? Did Long just have a death wish or was his attachment to integrity so great that when the whole sordid thing came out he just had to pretend to St. Jeff the pious? If you know Long knew put your money where your mouth is and prove it. If he did know he should have been fired along with Bobby but I think, unless you can prove it, you ought to careful with the libel.
BS...your post is total horse manure. Not going into detail but first you claim everyone knew, then you state "if" they know. Total made up BS..anyone saying that BP shouldn't have been fired never has and never will be in a management position.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

FarmingtonFan

Quote from: redneckfriend on September 12, 2017, 09:15:31 pm
I love the experts on this board. Literally "everyone" knew Bobby P. was screwing a girl he recommended for a legitimate position. I mean it was common knowledge- Long knew it, the chancellor knew it, the president knew it-go Bobby! and does she have a sister? So what was the problem for goodness sake? I mean why fire a coach who could beat everyone but Alabama? Did Long just have a death wish or was his attachment to integrity so great that when the whole sordid thing came out he just had to pretend to St. Jeff the pious? If you know Long knew put your money where your mouth is and prove it. If he did know he should have been fired along with Bobby but I think, unless you can prove it, you ought to careful with the libel.
I don't know anything about what BP did or didn't do in his personal life.  I don't know anything about the conversations JL and BP had before or after the motorcycle wreck.  What I do know is the Razorback football was fun to watch and discuss during BP's tenure.  From a fan only standpoint I wish he was still here. 
Hate the apathy and discontent I feel about the football program now.  Am past the belief that CBB can get even close to BPs success.  So, have to hang on until changes are made, then give the new guy time.
Oh, I didn't graduate from the U of A, but have lived in AR almost all of my 57 years.  My opinion counts as much as a graduate.  Don't care what anyone else thinks.  Have two kids that have degrees from the U of A.
Don't give a crap who the coach is as long as we are competitive and win our share of games.  Want to feel like we are respected by all and yes feared by some.  Life has enough serious stuff, football is for entertainment.  Winning makes football entertainment.

mckinneyhog5

Quote from: FarmingtonFan on September 12, 2017, 09:56:28 pm
I don't know anything about what BP did or didn't do in his personal life.  I don't know anything about the conversations JL and BP had before or after the motorcycle wreck.  What I do know is the Razorback football was fun to watch and discuss during BP's tenure.  From a fan only standpoint I wish he was still here. 
Hate the apathy and discontent I feel about the football program now.  Am past the belief that CBB can get even close to BPs success.  So, have to hang on until changes are made, then give the new guy time.
Oh, I didn't graduate from the U of A, but have lived in AR almost all of my 57 years.  My opinion counts as much as a graduate.  Don't care what anyone else thinks.  Have two kids that have degrees from the U of A.
Don't give a crap who the coach is as long as we are competitive and win our share of games.  Want to feel like we are respected by all and yes feared by some.  Life has enough serious stuff, football is for entertainment.  Winning makes football entertainment.
Maybe some day we can get a coach that can beat Bama and Lsu in the same year..or better yet just beat Bama. Oh yeah BP "The Great" got drilled last year by Lsu 29-9 in the bowl game. He's nothing when it comes to real teams. A genius he's not. I'm not going to bring up the losses to Kentucky and Houston..oh wait, oops.
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

hoghearted

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on September 12, 2017, 09:58:46 pm
Maybe some day we can get a coach that can beat Bama and Lsu in the same year..or better yet just beat Bama. Oh yeah BP "The Great" got drilled last year by Lsu 29-9 in the bowl game. He's nothing when it comes to real teams. A genius he's not. I'm not going to bring up the losses to Kentucky and Houston..oh wait, oops.

You're right, BP didn't beat Bama. But it doesn't look like this coach will either.. matter of fact, he hasn't even beaten aTm, yet. Funny you don't seem to hold him to the same standard,
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mckinneyhog5

Quote from: hoghearted on September 12, 2017, 10:15:05 pm
You're right, BP didn't beat Bama. But it doesn't look like this coach will either.. matter of fact, he hasn't even beaten aTm, yet. Funny you don't seem to hold him to the same standard,
Nope, if we're gonna get another coach at a minimum they shouldn't get skull shafted by LSU and never able to beat Bama. We need standards don't we? Or are you happy with mediocre results? Really though Huge Frezze and Sumlin both beat Bama but BP couldn't and just last year Lsu took Louisville behind the woodshed. This is the guy you worship?
Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on April 07, 2019, 10:29:55 pmGuys, we have hired the BEST coach that we could have hired. Musselman is gonna rock it here like we haven't seen since the early 90's. Just sit back and watch it unfold! We WILL be a nationally recognized program again soon.

hoghearted

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on September 12, 2017, 10:18:15 pm
Nope, if we're gonna get another coach at a minimum they shouldn't get skull shafted by LSU and never able to beat Bama. We need standards don't we? Or are you happy with mediocre results? Really though Huge Frezze and Sumlin both beat Bama but BP couldn't and just last year Lsu took Louisville behind the woodshed. This is the guy you worship?

There's only one guy I worship, and he ain't a football coach.




Look, I know you like BB; he seems to be a nice guy, loves his players (except his kicker), and all that. Reality is, he  is just not cut out for this job. He's in over his head, and we should be looking to make a change after the season. I realize that's not likely to happen, but I really think it should. 
It really is this simple. Unchecked government power leads to corruption, and lack of accountability for it is drastically eroding confidence in our institutions.    aristotle

PolishPigPower

Our fanbase gets married to an adequate woman with lots of personality who is loyal, but doesn't really turn us on the way we hoped.  So, we pine over the hot double-jointed redhead chick from our past who could eat a whole banana, and we gripe about our dad who made us break up with her because she was making the family look bad.  Then we throw in the bat-Starkville-crazy girl from way back who wore weird sweat pants and made random comments to remind us of how hot she thought she was.  Every once in a while we recall the one night stand with the old chick that we thought was a MILF but turned out to be on the verge of senility and bankruptcy.  So we wonder how we can land another new hot chick...

Then we remember the alimony that would be due the current wife if we divorce in the next two years, say dangittoheck, and hope her friends teach her a new trick or two soon.  And that is why we must make due with the current wife, even if she's packing on a few pounds... at least for a little while.
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redneckfriend

Quote from: mckinneyhog5 on September 12, 2017, 09:55:11 pm
BS...your post is total horse manure. Not going into detail but first you claim everyone knew, then you state "if" they know. Total made up BS..anyone saying that BP shouldn't have been fired never has and never will be in a management position.

I'm not sure but I'm sort of thinking you didn't understand the post. It was in response to a couple of posters claiming Long knew about Petrino's mistress and not just Long but "everyone" knew. I was just kind of interested how they knew that and why, if was such common knowledge, they didn't offer evidence. So, no, it wasn't me that claimed everyone knew but the poster in the quote. As my posts today make clear I don't think there is any doubt that Bobby P. should have been fired for the crime of defalcating university funds to pay his mistress.

Ex-Trumpet

Quote from: redneckfriend on September 12, 2017, 11:35:30 pm
I'm not sure but I'm sort of thinking you didn't understand the post. It was in response to a couple of posters claiming Long knew about Petrino's mistress and not just Long but "everyone" knew. I was just kind of interested how they knew that and why, if was such common knowledge, they didn't offer evidence. So, no, it wasn't me that claimed everyone knew but the poster in the quote. As my posts today make clear I don't think there is any doubt that Bobby P. should have been fired for the crime of defalcating university funds to pay his mistress.


Wow.  In one post you talk about libel, in this one you accuse BP of embezzlement.
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Ex-Trumpet

Quote from: PolishPigPower on September 12, 2017, 11:04:55 pm
Our fanbase gets married to an adequate woman with lots of personality who is loyal, but doesn't really turn us on the way we hoped.  So, we pine over the hot double-jointed redhead chick from our past who could eat a whole banana, and we gripe about our dad who made us break up with her because she was making the family look bad.  Then we throw in the bat-Starkville-crazy girl from way back who wore weird sweat pants and made random comments to remind us of how hot she thought she was.  Every once in a while we recall the one night stand with the old chick that we thought was a MILF but turned out to be on the verge of senility and bankruptcy.  So we wonder how we can land another new hot chick...

Then we remember the alimony that would be due the current wife if we divorce in the next two years, say dangittoheck, and hope her friends teach her a new trick or two soon.  And that is why we must make due with the current wife, even if she's packing on a few pounds... at least for a little while.

This is why the vetting process is a most important duty!!  :)
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GuvHog

Quote from: redneckfriend on September 12, 2017, 11:35:30 pm
I'm not sure but I'm sort of thinking you didn't understand the post. It was in response to a couple of posters claiming Long knew about Petrino's mistress and not just Long but "everyone" knew. I was just kind of interested how they knew that and why, if was such common knowledge, they didn't offer evidence. So, no, it wasn't me that claimed everyone knew but the poster in the quote. As my posts today make clear I don't think there is any doubt that Bobby P. should have been fired for the crime of defalcating university funds to pay his mistress.

The money BP gave Jessica came from his own private bank account. It was not University money.
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redneckfriend

Quote from: GuvHog on September 13, 2017, 08:13:52 am
The money BP gave Jessica came from his own private bank account. It was not University money.

So Bobby paid her salary of $55,000 +?  Mighty generous of him.

Razorbax

Why should he? Jeff Long hired her for that position.
Quote from: redneckfriend on September 13, 2017, 09:18:10 am
So Bobby paid her salary of $55,000 +?  Mighty generous of him.

Razorbackers


GuvHog

Quote from: redneckfriend on September 13, 2017, 09:18:10 am
So Bobby paid her salary of $55,000 +?  Mighty generous of him.

No, he gave her that money while she was working for the Razorback Foundation which is separate from the university and if I remember correctly, it was $25,000, not $55,000.
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311Hog

Quote from: GuvHog on September 13, 2017, 08:13:52 am
The money BP gave Jessica came from his own private bank account. It was not University money.

so you are cool with this, but mad that Hugh Freeze paid an escort service? they are the same thing you know.

Razorbax

So it is your belief gifts of objects/money in a relationship equal a transaction between prostitutes and "Johns"....Try explaining that to your significant other.
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 09:29:14 am
so you are cool with this, but mad that Hugh Freeze paid an escort service? they are the same thing you know.

311Hog

umm if i told my significant other that i gave a girl 20,000 dollars, oh and i slept with her what would you think she would say?

He didn't give her gas money or buy her a sandwich he gave her TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS and a nice 55k a year job right next to him.

ricepig

Quote from: PolishPigPower on September 12, 2017, 11:04:55 pm
Our fanbase gets married to an adequate woman with lots of personality who is loyal, but doesn't really turn us on the way we hoped.  So, we pine over the hot double-jointed redhead chick from our past who could eat a whole banana, and we gripe about our dad who made us break up with her because she was making the family look bad.  Then we throw in the bat-Starkville-crazy girl from way back who wore weird sweat pants and made random comments to remind us of how hot she thought she was.  Every once in a while we recall the one night stand with the old chick that we thought was a MILF but turned out to be on the verge of senility and bankruptcy.  So we wonder how we can land another new hot chick...

Then we remember the alimony that would be due the current wife if we divorce in the next two years, say dangittoheck, and hope her friends teach her a new trick or two soon.  And that is why we must make due with the current wife, even if she's packing on a few pounds... at least for a little while.

Sounds like my life, or wait, we're talking football, fire em all!

Razorbax

Didn't you take your significant other on a date? Did you pay for the meal? Movie? Trip? The dollar amount does not define the title.
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 09:35:11 am
umm if i told my significant other that i gave a girl 20,000 dollars, oh and i slept with her what would you think she would say?

He didn't give her gas money or buy her a sandwich he gave her TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS and a nice 55k a year job right next to him.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 09:39:26 am
Didn't you take your significant other on a date? Did you pay for the meal? Movie? Trip? The dollar amount does not define the title.

hahah wow you are deep in that Petrino groin area arent you?  there is no way you are married, or are serious.

Did you really just try and equate a date (with a mistress no less) to giving a side piece twenty THOUSAND dollars, not over time, not over a 20 year relationship AT ONE TIME lol....

She is hooker and he is a john spin it how you want but that is the reality.

 

Dr Carl aka Shorthog

If CBP ever wanted an ego boost all he'd have to do is come here. We still haven't gotten over him as a fanbase. Almost everyone I talk to wishes he would not have effed up and was still the coach. But he's not. Move on.

Razorbax

Probably not as deep as your immersion.....But have to leave you something to brag about...........Based on you defining that relationship as being equal to an escort service,  rational people can come to no other conclusion. Dollar amount does not matter....There are no laws that define solicitation with 20k as the starting point.   
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 09:41:07 am
hahah wow you are deep in that Petrino groin area arent you?  there is no way you are married, or are serious.

Did you really just try and equate a date (with a mistress no less) to giving a side pieces twenty THOUSAND dollars, not over time, not over a 20 year relationship AT ONE TIME lol....

redneckfriend

Quote from: GuvHog on September 13, 2017, 09:26:58 am
No, he gave her that money while she was working for the Razorback Foundation which is separate from the university and if I remember correctly, it was $25,000, not $55,000.

Well according to the contract I read, signed by Jeff Long, the salary was $55,000 (as player development coordinator). And maybe I'm mistaken but I don't believe that the Razorback Foundation was established as Bobby Petrino's slush fund. I assume people ponyed up money on the belief that it wouldn't be peculated or misappropriated.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 09:53:40 am
Probably not as deep as your immersion.....But have to leave you something to brag about...........Based on you defining that relationship as being equal to an escort service,  rational people can come to no other conclusion. Dollar amount does not matter....There are no laws that define solicitation with 20k as the starting point.   

You are right dollar amount doesn't matter in this case because he clearly cheated on his wife, paid the girl he was sleeping with large sums of money (out of the goodness of his heart i am sure), and then proceeded to surreptitiously get her hired so they could be closer together on recruiting trips while his wife was at home taking care of the kids.

yep totally stand up guy.

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Quote from: redneckfriend on September 13, 2017, 09:54:17 am
Well according to the contract I read, signed by Jeff Long, the salary was $55,000 (as player development coordinator). And maybe I'm mistaken but I don't believe that the Razorback Foundation was established as Bobby Petrino's slush fund. I assume people ponyed up money on the belief that it wouldn't be peculated or misappropriated.

She was being paid by the University after she was hired.

She was given the gift by CBMFP while she was still employed by the Razorback Foundation, before she was hired by the University.
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Razorbax

Blame the administrator that hired her. I am sure you can convince him of his error. athldir@uark.edu
Quote from: redneckfriend on September 13, 2017, 09:54:17 am
Well according to the contract I read, signed by Jeff Long, the salary was $55,000 (as player development coordinator). And maybe I'm mistaken but I don't believe that the Razorback Foundation was established as Bobby Petrino's slush fund. I assume people ponyed up money on the belief that it wouldn't be peculated or misappropriated.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 09:59:57 am
Blame the administrator that hired her. I am sure you can convince him of his error. athldir@uark.edu

blame the administrator that didn't know Petrino was banging the girl he hired.

Razorbax

Moving the goal post? The discussion was not about right and wrong. Rather, it was about you and other's fabrications, name calling, and pure asshattery while claiming some moral high ground.
 
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 09:58:12 am
You are right dollar amount doesn't matter in this case because he clearly cheated on his wife, paid the girl he was sleeping with large sums of money (out of the goodness of his heart i am sure), and then proceeded to surreptitiously get her hired so they could be closer together on recruiting trips while his wife was at home taking care of the kids.

yep totally stand up guy.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:04:04 am
Moving the goal post? The discussion was not about right and wrong. Rather, it was about you and other's fabrications, name calling, and pure asshattery while claiming some moral high ground.
 

no goal posts were moved.  In any world to any person paying your mistress 20 k for a Xmas present is not right.  By any measure by anything.

Having anything to do with the hiring of your mistress to a position of direct report to you is not right by any measure in any organization.

It is easy to have the moral high ground in this situation because i have never and would never cheat on my wife. And if i did i would expect her to kill me and i wouldn't blame her for it.

Razorbax

You know this how? All we know is media personalities have said they and others knew. Besides, Long is an administrator. From I what I have seen, a good one. One characteristic of a good bureaucratic administrator is their due diligence. Either he knew or he didn't do his job. Both underlines his fitness to be the AD.
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:02:01 am
blame the administrator that didn't know Petrino was banging the girl he hired.b

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:10:11 am
You know this how? All we know is media personalities have said they and others knew. Besides, Long is an administrator. From I what I have seen, a good one. One characteristic of a good bureaucratic administrator is their due diligence. Either he knew or he didn't do his job. Both underlines his fitness to be the AD.
i read the notes from Long, Fagg, Petrino and the girl that were either posted in this thread or one of the others.

If Long did know that is debatable sure he could be lying.  Are you also assuming the committee knew? and yet you are blaming anyone and everyone except the person who did it.  Sorry but it is not Long's job nor a hiring committee's job to know if the head coach is banging a side piece and paying her 20k for some nice Xmas undies.

Razorbax

Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:07:19 am
no goal posts were moved.  In any world to any person paying your mistress 20 k for a Xmas present is not right.  By any measure by anything.
So is 5 dollars ok for Xmas? 100 dollar? Maybe 20k is not much for a coach making millions. Why is it not right he does what he wants with his money?
Having anything to do with the hiring of your mistress to a position of direct report to you is not right by any measure in any organization.
I am ignorant of your past or current circumstances. But, if you have not seen favoritism, and nepotism in both public and private companies, you need to get out more.
It is easy to have the moral high ground in this situation because i have never and would never cheat on my wife. And if i did i would expect her to kill me and i wouldn't blame her for it.
I am sure your wife is very lucky to have you. I agree, once you make that vow, you should stay faithful. However, studies have shown the number of infidelities, emotional and physical is 20%~40%. faithfulness s no way near the exception it once was. 

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:21:01 am


so because the world is more morally bankrupt we should let it go for the sake of a couple more wins (and not even against teams that matter i mean for Saban sure, but Petrino is no Saban) got it.

Razorbax

Bla
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:17:31 am
i read the notes from Long, Fagg, Petrino and the girl that were either posted in this thread or one of the others.

If Long did know that is debatable sure he could be lying.Sure and I can accept the premise he did not know. However, based on who professed to have known and knowing the gossipy nature of small offices, I would put my money on the fact he did know.  Are you also assuming the committee knew? too many variables to state with an unequivocal yes or no. If Jeff knew, wouldn't he be required to tell them? If Jeff didn't know, is there a possibility one of the members heard rumors?and yet you are blaming anyone and everyone except the person who did it. Was the discussion about who is to blame for the affair/lie? Because if it is, it totally falls on the lap of CBP. However, I went back and re-read our conversations and it seems I was disagreeing with you and others calling her a whore, prostitute and accusing him of embezzlement.   Sorry but it is not Long's job nor a hiring committee's job to know if the head coach is banging a side piece and paying her 20k for some nice Xmas undies. Maybe not, but it is Jeff Long's job to vet the applicants and not rubber stamp them. 

Razorbax

For Saban? So wins and losses define your morality? So your entire argument is not the lies or the unfaithfulness by CBP, but the number of wins. 
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:24:55 am
so because the world is more morally bankrupt we should let it go for the sake of a couple more wins (and not even against teams that matter i mean for Saban sure, but Petrino is no Saban) got it.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:40:55 am
For Saban? So wins and losses define your morality? So your entire argument is not the lies or the unfaithfulness by CBP, but the number of wins. 

no i threw that in there on the edit because i knew you would seize upon it.  A fake life line if you will to illustrate that you are willing to settle for slightly better than Beliema and a far cry from Saban for your soul/integrity/morality.

I was kidding, no i would not trade my schools soul for Saban or anyone, but i know alot of people that would and their names are more than likely not on the side walk.

gchamblee

Quote from: GuvHog on September 13, 2017, 08:13:52 am
The money BP gave Jessica came from his own private bank account. It was not University money.

Which was a breach of contract

gchamblee

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 09:33:19 am
So it is your belief gifts of objects/money in a relationship equal a transaction between prostitutes and "Johns"....Try explaining that to your significant other.

I bet Bobby had fun explaining that to his significant other :)

Razorbax

Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:43:29 am
no i threw that in there on the edit because i knew you would seize upon it.  A fake life line if you will to illustrate that you are willing to settle for slightly better than Beliema and a far cry from Saban for your soul/integrity/morality.You got that from? Better yet, find me a quote from our discussion where I advocated for bringing CBP back or absolving him of lying/unfaithfulness. I have more than accepted the fact he is gone and never returning, I have also accepted he was not a great person. However, you and the name calling bunch seem not to be satisfied with that. rather,
you insist everyone agree upon even more invectives and fabrications.


I was kidding, no i would not trade my schools soul for Saban or anyone, but i know alot of people that would and their names are more than likely not on the side walk. Logic at its finest.....Integrity, as you have defined it, only comes from graduating from the UofA..... Spent 5 wonderful years there and there were plenty of DBs I wouldn't trust a quarter in the urinal with.

Razorbax

I am sure he did...Deserved everything that was said by her too.
Quote from: gchamblee on September 13, 2017, 10:52:19 am
I bet Bobby had fun explaining that to his significant other :)

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:56:55 am


i am done trying to separate your posts from mine because you can't figure out how to quote properly.

Razorbax


HotlantaHog

I think it's entirely possible to believe Bobby Petrino is a very bad guy who did very bad things -- but that you would be fine with having as a football coach, after slapping him on the wrist... why he is back to coaching again Saturday night on ABC and was coaching again soon after leaving Arkansas.

I agree with what another poster said ... basically I don't care what he does in his private life, and while some of his conduct WAS bad and broke university rules and what you expect from an employee, there could have been a way to keep him with some discipline ....

Conduct that you couldn't forgive would be academic fraud such as what occurred at UGA under its former basketball coach or covering up a serious crime which is what happened at Penn State.

311Hog

Quote from: Razorbax on September 13, 2017, 10:59:53 am
Enlighten me, I have not heard this angle.

behavior unbecoming doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this.  it is in Long's notes to he even cut and pasted it from Petrino's contract.

So while to you the world is stupid and morally bankrupt there are still morality clauses in some people's contracts especially those that make so much money a chunk on the state's dime.

Razorbax

So your inadequacies are my fault.
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 10:59:44 am
i am done trying to separate your posts from mine because you can't figure out how to quote properly.

Razorbax

His money and how he spends it, within the letter of law, has zero to do with morality
Quote from: 311Hog on September 13, 2017, 11:01:24 am
behavior unbecoming doesn't take a rocket scientist to know this.  it is in Long's notes to he even cut and pasted it from Petrino's contract.

So while to you the world is stupid and morally bankrupt there are still morality clauses in some people's contracts especially those that make so much money a chunk on the state's dime.