I REALLY want to know...the most overrated college football player EVER?

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

Well, since all my other picks have already been taken, I want to throw out a name that's not on the list  yet.

Andre Ware.

oldbooniehog

Actually he has

[dana caldwell]

archie griffin. yep, he was good, but not two heismans good (the last to do it; not sure if the only to do it). not close in my mind.

anthony davis (USC) was a much better back and should've been heismaned when griffin got his second. i'll never forget his performance against ND when the trojans trailed 28-0 at the half. davis returned the second half kickoff and scored, i think, six TDs in that second half. the guy was amazing.

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

Archie is who a lot of my PEERS said

[dana caldwell]

well, you've got brilliant peers! 

[navyhog24]

akili smith or however you spell it...former qb from oregon
kijana carter, rashan salaam, curtis enis, ryan leaf. i wanna put phil rivers on here but he's had to play behind drew brees. he gets his chance finally. chris simms. charles rogers. joey harrington. this will get a few differences but i also have to say herschel walker. with all the hype he got out college. he never measured to it in the nfl. ricky williams,  he had like 2 good seasons. bo jackson, same as herschel walker.

[hogfancb]

JuJu Hersaw (sp)

[navyhog24]

actually michael vick is very overrated also

[RhodeHog]

Matt Leinart

[dishhog10]

floidakeysguy

[Franchise_Hog]

Maurice Clarett - overrated, overhyped, whatever you want to call it

[razorbrock]

Rick Mirer
Heath Shuler
Danny Wuerffel
Desmond Howard - good return man but had "stone hands" as a wr--a heisman winner should perform better in the nfl

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

JuJu Hersaw (sp)

Harshaw

[razorbrock]

akili smith or however you spell it...former qb from oregon
kijana carter, rashan salaam, curtis enis, ryan leaf. i wanna put phil rivers on here but he's had to play behind drew brees. he gets his chance finally. chris simms. charles rogers. joey harrington. this will get a few differences but i also have to say herschel walker. with all the hype he got out college. he never measured to it in the nfl. ricky williams,  he had like 2 good seasons. bo jackson, same as herschel walker.

I disagree about Bo Jackson.  He was an incredible RB in the NFL, but a hip injury essentially ended his NFL and MLB career.  I guess you could label him a bust if major injuries count in this discussion.

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

akili smith or however you spell it...former qb from oregon
kijana carter, rashan salaam, curtis enis, ryan leaf. i wanna put phil rivers on here but he's had to play behind drew brees. he gets his chance finally. chris simms. charles rogers. joey harrington. this will get a few differences but i also have to say herschel walker. with all the hype he got out college. he never measured to it in the nfl. ricky williams,  he had like 2 good seasons. bo jackson, same as herschel walker.

I disagree about Bo Jackson.  He was an incredible RB in the NFL, but a hip injury essentially ended his NFL and MLB career.  I guess you could label him a bust if major injuries count in this discussion.

I disagree about Bo Jackson as well. He was perhaps the most talent the NFL has ever seen. He had hip problems and was gone but that dude was a STUD.

[Cure]

Forgot about Danny Wuerffel..definetly overrated

[RhodeHog]

Bo Jackson was one of the best athletes I've ever seen.

[RebelHawg]

Bo Jackson is arguably one of the best athletes to ever play college or professional sports. I consider there to be only a few people to be better athletes than Bo one of which is Jim Thorpe.

[DOGALUM]

This is easy........Charles Woodson.     Heisman Trophy winner from Michigan.  Beat the elder Manning brother out for it.  Made the Heisman, in my mind, a stupid award.  Champ Bailey out of Georgia made ALL of Woodson's numbers look like crap the next year. 

NO WAY was woodson the best player in the NCAAs that year.  NO WAY.   




Now.....if we're talking about college to pro.....that's a tough one.  Mandarich, Leaf, Boz, Ki-Jana Carter, Rashan Salaam, the list goes on and on......

[DOGALUM]

By the way...........Bo Jackson was absolutely the greatest athlete I've ever seen or known of.  Simply amazing!!!     IMO

[clemensrules01]

Y'all are gonna hate me for this,  but I'm gonna say Cedric Cobbs. 
For 2 seasons we squandered carries on Cobbs that should have gone to Fred Talley.  He was always the better back.

Now go ahead and beat me up.

cobbs, when healthy, was much better than talley. talley was a better player in the long run because he wasnt always injured like cobbs.

[zwhogfan]

I have to say in the past 10 years, Maurice Clarett, Peter Warrick, and I am surprised no one has listed Tim Couch... he was just a product of the system at Kentucky.

[bigred7987]

archie griffin. yep, he was good, but not two heismans good (the last to do it; not sure if the only to do it). not close in my mind.

anthony davis (USC) was a much better back and should've been heismaned when griffin got his second. i'll never forget his performance against ND when the trojans trailed 28-0 at the half. davis returned the second half kickoff and scored, i think, six TDs in that second half. the guy was amazing.

Didn't Jason White win 2 heismans? or he finish 2nd in the last one

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

This is easy........Charles Woodson.     Heisman Trophy winner from Michigan.  Beat the elder Manning brother out for it.  Made the Heisman, in my mind, a stupid award.  Champ Bailey out of Georgia made ALL of Woodson's numbers look like crap the next year. 

NO WAY was woodson the best player in the NCAAs that year.  NO WAY.   




Now.....if we're talking about college to pro.....that's a tough one.  Mandarich, Leaf, Boz, Ki-Jana Carter, Rashan Salaam, the list goes on and on......

Charles Woodson winning the Heisman was a joke, and was not the best college player that year!

[Adam Stokes]

Ty Detmer

[hogman64]

Restricting this question to arkansas .......I would say the two Garys

[DOGALUM]

Restricting this question to arkansas .......I would say the two Garys

If it's just Arkansas......I'll go with Tyrone Henry.

[ThisLittlePiggie]

Is this the most overrated COLLEGE player ever?  Or college to NFL player? 

Because most of these guys were awesome in college...

Crouch, for one, was a beast. 

College to NFL

Then it should have been titled...Great College Players that were major Busts in the NFL.

Terry Baker, Heisman Trophy winner, Oregon State
Gary Beban, Heisman Trophy winner, UCLA
John Huarte, Heisman Trophy winner, N.D.
Steve Spurrier, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Steve Owens, Heisman Trophy winner, OU
Pat Sullivan, Heisman Trophy winner, Auburn
Johnny Rodgers, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
John Capelletti, Heisman Trophy winner, Penn State
Archie Griffin, Heisman Trophy winner, Ohio State
Charles White, Heisman Trophy winner, USC
George Rogers, Heisman Trophy winner, So. Carolina
Herschel Walker, Heisman Trophy winner, Georgia
Mike Rozier, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Andre Ware, Heisman Trophy winner, Houston
Desmond Howard, Heisman Trophy winner, Michigan
Gino Toretta, Heisman Trophy winner, Miami
Rashaan Salaam, Heisman Trophy winner, Colorado
Danny Wuerfel, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Ricky Williams, Heisman Trophy winner, Texas
Ron Dayne, Heisman Trophy winner, Wisconsin
Chris Weinke, Heisman Trophy winner, FSU
Eric Crouch, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Jason White, Heisman Trophy winner, OU

[navyhog24]

and hdn almost hired pat sullivan for qb coach lol

[navyhog24]

spurrier as a player and a coach ...from college to nfl...

[Arazorbackguy1]

Houston Nutt

Hardy har har   I bet Homania thought he was the most clever person on this board with that comment... 

[whatsshakinbacon]

Rudy

Bacon out...

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

Is this the most overrated COLLEGE player ever?  Or college to NFL player? 

Because most of these guys were awesome in college...

Crouch, for one, was a beast. 

College to NFL

Then it should have been titled...Great College Players that were major Busts in the NFL.

Terry Baker, Heisman Trophy winner, Oregon State
Gary Beban, Heisman Trophy winner, UCLA
John Huarte, Heisman Trophy winner, N.D.
Steve Spurrier, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Steve Owens, Heisman Trophy winner, OU
Pat Sullivan, Heisman Trophy winner, Auburn
Johnny Rodgers, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
John Capelletti, Heisman Trophy winner, Penn State
Archie Griffin, Heisman Trophy winner, Ohio State
Charles White, Heisman Trophy winner, USC
George Rogers, Heisman Trophy winner, So. Carolina
Herschel Walker, Heisman Trophy winner, Georgia
Mike Rozier, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Andre Ware, Heisman Trophy winner, Houston
Desmond Howard, Heisman Trophy winner, Michigan
Gino Toretta, Heisman Trophy winner, Miami
Rashaan Salaam, Heisman Trophy winner, Colorado
Danny Wuerfel, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Ricky Williams, Heisman Trophy winner, Texas
Ron Dayne, Heisman Trophy winner, Wisconsin
Chris Weinke, Heisman Trophy winner, FSU
Eric Crouch, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Jason White, Heisman Trophy winner, OU

You got lots of time, but that's cool!

[Albert Einswine]

Y'all are gonna hate me for this,  but I'm gonna say Cedric Cobbs. 
For 2 seasons we squandered carries on Cobbs that should have gone to Fred Talley.  He was always the better back.

Now go ahead and beat me up.

cobbs, when healthy, was much better than talley. talley was a better player in the long run because he wasnt always injured like cobbs.

Not one shred of evidence to support that claim,  and Talley played injured and still performed admirably.  Cobbs never materialized past the hype.

[devildog]

The first name that popped into my head was Steve Owens
Ran behind a huge OU line against measley teams like Kansas and Colorado were back in those days.

Maybe lasted a season in the NFL

[Skip Foreplay]

Robbie Bosco

[afhogfan1980]

lol

Is this the most overrated COLLEGE player ever?  Or college to NFL player? 

Because most of these guys were awesome in college...

Crouch, for one, was a beast. 

College to NFL

Then it should have been titled...Great College Players that were major Busts in the NFL.

Terry Baker, Heisman Trophy winner, Oregon State
Gary Beban, Heisman Trophy winner, UCLA
John Huarte, Heisman Trophy winner, N.D.
Steve Spurrier, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Steve Owens, Heisman Trophy winner, OU
Pat Sullivan, Heisman Trophy winner, Auburn
Johnny Rodgers, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
John Capelletti, Heisman Trophy winner, Penn State
Archie Griffin, Heisman Trophy winner, Ohio State
Charles White, Heisman Trophy winner, USC
George Rogers, Heisman Trophy winner, So. Carolina
Herschel Walker, Heisman Trophy winner, Georgia
Mike Rozier, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Andre Ware, Heisman Trophy winner, Houston
Desmond Howard, Heisman Trophy winner, Michigan
Gino Toretta, Heisman Trophy winner, Miami
Rashaan Salaam, Heisman Trophy winner, Colorado
Danny Wuerfel, Heisman Trophy winner, Florida
Ricky Williams, Heisman Trophy winner, Texas
Ron Dayne, Heisman Trophy winner, Wisconsin
Chris Weinke, Heisman Trophy winner, FSU
Eric Crouch, Heisman Trophy winner, Nebraska
Jason White, Heisman Trophy winner, OU

You got lots of time, but that's cool!

desmond howard atleast won the superbowl mvp

[Skip Foreplay]

Only Archie Griffin has won 2.

archie griffin. yep, he was good, but not two heismans good (the last to do it; not sure if the only to do it). not close in my mind.

anthony davis (USC) was a much better back and should've been heismaned when griffin got his second. i'll never forget his performance against ND when the trojans trailed 28-0 at the half. davis returned the second half kickoff and scored, i think, six TDs in that second half. the guy was amazing.

Didn't Jason White win 2 heismans? or he finish 2nd in the last one

[Theolesnort]

ron powlus was supposed to win 8 heismans at notre dame under holtz--instead his play triggered a ND slide that for the most part continued until this past season save Ty's first year

Ditto

[DirectorM]

I agree with Chris Simms.  He was never the best QB in his team, but yet got to play because of pedigree and his physical build.  Same is going on with him in the NFL right now.  I know he isn't the Most Overrated ever, but at least in the last few years.

[clemensrules01]

Reggie Bush

ur not very smart, r u?

[noprayerfornutt]

Quincy Carter

[Razorhogs]

Gary Brashears

[Cresthog]

Darnell Robinson...oh wait..football

ok well in that case


Brashears

[Razorback0918]

david greene

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

Reggie Bush
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Smokin' what?

[Burnt Orange Sucks]

Reggie Bush
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Smokin' what?

+1

[bigyellowdog]

Jeff George
Heath Shuler
The Boz

[dana caldwell]

"I agree with Chris Simms.  He was never the best QB in his team, but yet got to play because of pedigree and his physical build.  Same is going on with him in the NFL right now.  I know he isn't the Most Overrated ever, but at least in the last few years."

this is way wrong. second part, anyway. i cover the bucs. gruden and company are sky-high on him for great reasons (as now are most who cover the league). he's a super hard worker, super smart, very humble, a true team leader the guys actually like and respect, can move and think on the run and has a rocket arm.

he got his shot, remember, bc brian griese was broken last season. all sims did was lead the bucs -- with not that many good receiving options -- to the nfc south (delhomme, vick, culpepper's division) in what was supposed to be a down year.

[hogfan064]

I think the name of this thread should be college players who were busts in the NFL.  Because guys like Archie Griffin, Hershal Walker, and George Rogers were great college players. 

[T2 RZB]

I think the name of this thread should be college players who were busts in the NFL. 

Art Schlichter