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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1200 on: August 15, 2017, 04:51:18 am »

 AL.com sports‏Verified account @aldotcomSports 8h8 hours ago

What does Jarrett Stidham need to work on before his first start at Auburn?



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Gus Malzahn had repeatedly referred to Jarrett Stidham as a "gym rat" that's always in the film room and trying to perfect his understanding of the game and offensive coordinator Chip Lindsey's offense.

As optimistic as Auburn's fifth-year coach is about the physical abilities of the program's newest starting quarterback, he also emphasized Stidham's lack of playing experience after nearly 21 months without playing in a colelge football game.

"I think we've also got to keep in mind that (Stidham)'s still an inexperienced guy," Malzahn said Monday night. "I mean he still has some things that he's gonna have to go out on the field and play more and get use to things. He's really impressed coach Lindsey and myself and his teammates."

Stidham remains self-critical and is working on "a lot of things" in order to best understand the offense before the season opener against Georgia Southern on Sept. 2.

The challenge will be much greater against defending national champion Clemson on Sept. 9 and in week-to-week grind of the SEC.

"There's going to be some learning processes that you can only do in the course of games," Malzahn said. "There's not one area I can sit here and say, 'He needs to improve on this.' I think it's more of just the big-picture area of the experience when you go out and you fine-tune your whole game."

Stidham can readily recall the last time he was on the field, Nov. 21, 2015.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1201 on: August 20, 2017, 07:17:28 am »

Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger

Thru camp, #LSU's top 2 QBs have emerged: Danny Etling, of course, and a true freshman

QB decision coming next week


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Freshman Myles Brennan has emerged, along with returning starter Danny Etling, in this quarterback race, and a decision on a starter is expected next week, coach Ed Orgeron said on Saturday.

The two players attempted 20-plus passes during the Tigers final scrimmage of preseason camp on Saturday, both taking the majority of the first-string snaps and pulling away from others two weeks before the Sept. 2 opener against BYU.

“Haven’t named a starter yet,” Orgeron said following the scrimmage. “We don’t know that yet. We’re very close. I believe that’s going to happen next week. Big discussion with staff about it (Sunday).”

Etling completed 13 of 22 passes for 168 yards, three touchdowns and one interception. Brennan, the decorated rookie from the Mississippi Coast, went 10-for-20 for 122 yards, a touchdown and interception. Freshman Lowell Narcisse was 0-for-2 and scored on a rushing touchdown.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1202 on: August 21, 2017, 05:18:05 am »

Brent Zwerneman‏ @BrentZwerneman

Quarterback choice at A&M has impact from top on down: http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/aggies/article/Kevin-Sumlin-s-quarterback-choice-at-A-M-has-11944940.php …


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A&M's quarterbacks, with the receivers busy elsewhere during a recent practice, ran some of the most painstaking - putting it charitably - routes ever witnessed on the Coolidge practice fields.

In the midst of quarterback-to-quarterback passing to loosen up for the real thing and with no defender in sight, senior Jake Hubenak laboriously hustled along the right sideline before one of his mates opted for another wide-open quarterback impersonating a receiver. (Hint: They were all wide-open.)

"I would have scored on that one," Hubenak muttered with a chuckle before heading to the huddle.

Confidence, whether passing or receiving or rock-paper-scissoring, isn't a problem among A&M's three quarterbacks contending for the starting gig, with the opener at UCLA two weeks away. Pegging a clear-cut starter among Hubenak, redshirt freshman Nick Starkel and true freshman Kellen Mond is a more protracted task, especially when another job is riding on it.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1203 on: August 23, 2017, 04:51:52 am »

 Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger 10h10 hours ago

Danny Etling is #LSU's fifth different QB to start a season in the last seven years.

http://bit.ly/2wlCXbb




 Ross Dellenger‏Verified account @RossDellenger 9h9 hours ago

Orgeron on QBs: "Danny goes in the game and flops, I don’t have no problem putting in Myles, but we don’t expect that." #LSU
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1206 on: August 31, 2017, 04:57:11 am »

Tennessee football coach Butch Jones said Sunday night on The Nation radio show that the Vols have “a pretty good idea” of who will start at quarterback in the season opener Monday against Georgia Tech in Atlanta.

Three days later, he had no interest in telling anyone who that might be.


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On the depth chart released Wednesday morning, there was an “or” between junior Quinten Dormady and redshirt freshman Jarrett Guarantano. At Jones’ weekly news conference just after noon, he said he wanted the quarterbacks competing all the way up through pregame warmups on Monday.

He wasn’t willing to give away anything on the weekly radio call-in show Vol Calls on Wednesday evening, either.

“We don’t really need to name anyone,” Jones said. “Why would we, right now at this point in time?”

In previous seasons at Tennessee, Jones has been much quicker to eliminate doubt on the identity of his starter.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1207 on: August 31, 2017, 05:12:20 am »

 Dan Wolken‏Verified account @DanWolken 12h12 hours ago

McElwain finally named Franks the starting QB. A cynic would wonder if this long-awaited announcement is a coincidence given today's news


 Kevin Brockway‏ @gatorhoops 14h14 hours ago

Updated --> Scarlett, Wells suspended for Michigan game http://www.gatorsports.com/2017/08/scarlett-wells-suspended-michigan/ … via @GatorSports.com

Florida now has 10 players suspended for Wolverine game
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1208 on: September 03, 2017, 08:23:32 am »

COINCIDENTALLY

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131 passing yards by Eason in his college debut last year against a team from North Carolina. Eason was 8-for-12 with 1 touchdown and no interceptions.

143 passing yards by Fromm in his college debut against a team from North Carolina. Fromm was 10-for-15 with 1 touchdown and no interceptions.

Last year's Georgia true freshman QB Eason was injured early yesterday and replaced by 2017 true freshmen Jake Fromm.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1209 on: September 03, 2017, 09:30:46 am »

Michael Carvell‏ @Michael_Carvell

UGA win just another episode in Jake Fromm’s made-for-TV life


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ATHENS — If you’ve been following the storybook career of Jake Fromm, what happened Saturday night at Sanford Stadium will come as no surprise.

Of course he got thrown into action 8 1/2 minutes into his college football career. And of course he came through with flying colors. It’s what Jake Fromm does. It’s what he was born to do.

“He did exactly what I thought Jake Fromm would do,” Georgia coach Kirby Smart said following the Bulldogs 31-10 win over Appalachian State. “There’s not been a moment that was too big for Jake Fromm since he was a little kid. He’s always been that way.”

Indeed he has. Fromm was slugging home runs over the wall as a 12-year-old to help lead Warner Robins to the Little League World Series. Then he was zipping the ball around all over the yard at Houston County High School until he finished 116 touchdowns and 12,817 yards passing, 260 yards short of Deshaun Watson’s Georgia high school record.

So having to run into the scoreless game with little to no warmup, then leading his team’s offense to the tune of 300 yards and 31 unanswered points seemed almost like old hat to pride to the big kid with the Hollywood good looks.

The only downside of this whole scenario Saturday is it came at the expense of Jacob Eason. The Bulldogs’ incumbent starter injured his left knee on an out-of-bounds shove with 6:30 remaining in the first quarter.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1210 on: September 03, 2017, 09:26:46 pm »

 Ben Baby‏Verified account @Ben_Baby 5m5 minutes ago

Through three quarters, Kellen Mond is 1-of-8 passing for seven yards.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1211 on: September 04, 2017, 06:53:54 am »

Michael Carvell‏ @Michael_Carvell

At Second Glance: One key difference between Jake Fromm and Jacob Eason


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If Eason had never gotten hurt, it’s very possible, even probable, that he would have gone on to play well, led Georgia to a comfortable win, and anybody judging him on his first three passes and two fruitless drives would have been laughed out of Sanford Stadium.

But Eason did get hurt. So as we go into the great unknown of the next few days, weeks and months, we are left to dissect those first nine minutes of the game, and whether they reinforce red flags about Eason from last year, or whether we’re just being silly.

Eason’s first pass was in a three-wide set, and Eason went rather quickly to Jackson Harris for a negligible gain. Nick Chubb was actually alone on the left side, but Eason never looked at him. It may not have gained much more than the quick pass to Harris, but Eason didn’t even look his way.

The second pass, the overthrow of Isaac Nauta on third down, appeared to be a case of rushing his throw under pressure. Right guard Dyshon Sims couldn’t stop a linebacker who had blitzed off a stunt, and Eason threw off the wrong foot.

Eason didn’t attempt a pass on the second series, scrambling for no gain on third down. It looked like coverage was good, but Eason also appeared to misjudge where he should run, scrambling left when there was more room right. There were times last year Eason created a chance by scrambling to give his receivers time to get open. That time he didn’t.

Eason’s third pass, the overthrow to Javon Wims, was just one of those simple passes that Eason sailed on last year. It was why his completion percentage was only 55 percent. It was why the coaches emphasized improving that in the offseason. And it was why when the next guy came in, things changed.
JAKE FROMM’S FIRST IMPRESSION

Fromm’s immediate effect was just accuracy. He hit Nauta in the numbers, then Hardman in the hands on an out pattern, and that’s why the offense started clicking. As Kirby Smart pointed out afterwards, it’s not like they put in a different tempo package.

The first really good run of the day also happened when Fromm came in, a 10-yard cut to the outside by Sony Michel. That was mainly just better blocking, but credit to Fromm for running the play correctly, something you can’t take for granted from a true freshman suddenly thrust into action.

Fromm’s most impressive pass of the night was the 25-yard strike down the middle to Javon Wims late in the first quarter. Fromm stood strong in the pocket and just hit Wims perfectly.

After the first touchdown drive, the camera caught Kirby Smart grabbing Fromm by the jersey and pushing him into the receiver’s huddle. Almost a message: “Hey, you’re the starter now, get with your guys.”

In the rush to anoint Fromm, a couple plays to remember: On his first drive, he overthrew Michael Chigbu near the sideline, but if he had thrown it better it would’ve been an interception. Fromm didn’t check the coverage before he threw the pass, and didn’t see the cornerback was right there.

The scoring drive that Fromm probably had the least to do with was the one that ended with his touchdown pass: The 34-yard TD to Wims was his only completion of the drive, and Fromm shouldn’t have thrown it. It was into triple coverage, and Wims saved the play with the leap-and-snatch. It was the play of the game, I’d say.

Fromm got clocked on the play, so he deserves credit for his toughness. Hard to tell a guy after the fact if he should’ve done something other than throw it, but he did get lucky on that one.

In fact, Fromm got lucky again on the next drive. He rushed a pass again and heaved the ball to the right side for Terry Godwin, who would have been wide open had the throw been delivered on time and on target. But there was a pass interference call, which set up another touchdown run.

Sometimes lucky is part of someone’s aura. Sometimes it’s just luck.
A KEY POINT ON FROMM-EASON

Many people’s takeaway was the offense moved not just better but quicker with Fromm. Well, there was a reason for that.

When Eason was in the game, Georgia averaged 24 seconds between plays, by my count. (Not counting first downs.).

The tempo did immediately pick up on the drive Fromm entered, but mainly because of completions. The time between plays after completions averaged 11 seconds on that drive. But there were also two incompletions on that drive, and the next play then took 25 and 32 seconds, respectively.

The next few drives with Fromm in there mirrored that. A good play tended to lead to a quick play, while an incompletion led to the team regrouping and taking longer to get the next play in.

The point: Georgia’s tempo only seemed faster with Fromm because he was completing passes. But Fromm was completing those passes, leading to that quick tempo, while Eason was not.

GEORGIA’S OFFENSE IN GENERAL

Offensive coordinator Jim Chaney kept it simple, especially after the Jacob Eason injury. Eason did operate out of the shotgun, and there were some diverse sets, but nothing elaborate in the play-calling. That’s definitely understandable, given the opponent. You have to imagine that if the game was uncomfortably close in the second half that you might have seen something more interesting.

You also have to imagine that some deep strikes were planned for Eason. Then he left, and the play script probably shrunk about 50 percent with Fromm.

So what to think of Chaney’s play-calling this year? Well, let’s wait a week.
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1212 on: September 04, 2017, 02:28:46 pm »

Michael Carvell‏ @Michael_Carvell

Georgia teammates gush over Jake Fromm: ‘The real deal’


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“He always seems to find a way to win it,” Reed said. “I just think he’s got it in him. That’s what I think. It’s just that ‘it’ factor.”

Fromm may not be as tall as Jacob Eason, and wasn’t as heralded a recruit. But with Eason’s knee injury in Georgia’s season opener, Fromm is now the starter for at least a few weeks. That means a starting debut at Notre Dame, at night, on national television.

There are few around the team who seem to think Fromm can’t handle it.

“If you guys knew how well this guy prepares, as a student of the game, even in the summertime in seven-on-seven,” senior linebacker Davin Bellamy said. “The guy is the real deal.”

Ever since Fromm’s impressive debut Saturday against Appalachian State, when he sparked the offense to 31 points off the bench, more than a few Georgia fans have opined that their team will actually be better off with Fromm at the helm. Cooler heads will counter that it’s way too early to say that.

Fromm’s own teammates, while not discounting Eason, sure sound confident in the new guy, who they praise for his intangibles, including his very vocal leadership.

“He’s very talkative, but it’s all meaningful words out there,” Wims said. “He’s a field general. A true field general. At first I was shocked how fast he picked it up as a freshman, but now that he’s been doing it so long I’m not shocked at all.”
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1213 on: September 05, 2017, 10:45:35 pm »

 Michael Carvell‏ @Michael_Carvell 10h10 hours ago

Kevin Sumlin: With Nick Starkel out, both Jake Hubenak and Kellen Mond to play at QB for Texas A&M
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1214 on: September 07, 2017, 05:00:38 am »

Michael Carvell‏ @Michael_Carvell

QBL Week 1: Which SEC QBs are on the path to greatness?


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Introducing the QB Ladder (aka “QBL,” aka “Cube-uhl,” aka “Q-Bladder” to the haters), a new college quarterback formula and ranking system that tosses out the archaic NCAA “Passer Rating” and accounts for a number of previously ignored factors (Rushing yards! Strength of opponent! Duh!).

This is not a ranking of the “best” quarterback with the tightest spiral or the quickest decision-making ability or the fastest 40 time. It’s about “greatness,” that all-important factor that — until now — was unquantifiable.

These numbers can and should be compared against quarterbacks from different eras, and SEC Country plans to do so as the season goes on.

Consider Week 1 a test run

15. Austin Allen, Arkansas (0.19)
16. Cole Kelley, Arkansas (0.15)
17. Kellen Mond, Texas A&M (0.14)
18. Nick Starkel, Texas A&M (0.09)
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1215 on: September 09, 2017, 03:56:37 pm »

 Wes Rucker‏ @wesrucker247 15m15 minutes ago

Jarrett Guarantano in at QB for the #Vols in this series. First series of his career.

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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1216 on: September 09, 2017, 04:40:54 pm »

 Cecil Hurt‏ @CecilHurt 17m17 minutes ago

Jalen Hurts to start second half and WHAT CAN IT POSSIBLY MEAN?!?@?
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« Reply #1218 on: September 12, 2017, 04:55:26 am »

Mark Stoops defends backup quarterback Drew Barker


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Stoops offered a lengthy defense of former starter and current backup quarterback Drew Barker during the coach’s Monday news conference.

While Stephen Johnson completed 15 of 22 passes for 224 yards, rushed for 48 yards, produced two touchdowns and no turnovers on Saturday — while guiding Kentucky to a closer-than-expected victory over Eastern Kentucky — Barker completed 1 of 2 passes for 5 yards and presided over a pair of possessions that ended in quick punts during a brief relief appearance.

“I’m very happy that we inserted him into that game in the situation that we did, under some pressure,” Stoops said. “You have to get those quality reps. His play, I have to defend him just like I defend Stephen. It’s a lot of people around him. You don’t need to go in there and get a penalty on a screen pass and get a holding penalty on the first [possession for Barker]. And then protection issues. Give him some options on third down.”

On Barker’s first play since Week 3 of last season, Barker completed a 7-yard pass that was wiped out by a holding call. He was sacked on third-and-8. His second and final possession at the helm started with a false start, then a 2-yard run by freshman A.J. Rose, then a 5-yard completion. Again, he was sacked on third-and-8.

“There’s not many quarterbacks that are very effective on third-and-long when you’re not getting great, great protection,” Stoops said. “We have a guy [Rose] that hasn’t played college football yet and has a run that couldn’t possibly be set up any better — and we miss it. We bounced it outside instead of hitting it up inside or it’s a huge gain. We get in third-and-long again and the same back — that’s gonna be fine, who hadn’t played yet — gets completely blown up on a blitz. We get no time to throw the ball.”
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Re: SEC QB Controversy Thermometer
« Reply #1219 on: Today at 04:56:40 am »

 Tom Green‏Verified account @Tomas_Verde 19h19 hours ago

What does Sean White's dismissal mean for Auburn? For starters, QB depth is once again the Tigers' Achilles heel. http://www.al.com/auburnfootball/index.ssf/2017/09/what_sean_whites_dismissal_mea.html


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Sean White's time at Auburn has come to an end.

While White started 16 games since 2015, including 10 last season, the Boca Raton, Fla., native has not seen the field this year. He lost out on the starting job to Jarrett Stidham during fall camp before serving his suspension against Georgia Southern and Clemson. He was available and in uniform against Mercer, but did not see the field during Auburn's 24-10 win.

With White no longer part of the team, what does it mean for Auburn's plans at quarterback moving forward?

Stidham is Auburn's man this season, and is likely to maintain that status for as long as he is enrolled at Auburn. The redshirt sophomore, who is coming off the second-most efficient passing performance in SEC history, has two more years of eligibility after this season, so White's departure doesn't have much of an impact in that regard.

Where White's dismissal does have an immediate impact is behind Stidham on the depth chart, where freshman Malik Willis has been elevated to the role of backup quarterback.

Auburn entered the season with considerable depth at the position, as the team had a highly touted starter and an experienced backup who led the SEC in completion percentage in 2016 and helped spur a six-game win streak last season that had Auburn in the College Football Playoff discussion before White's shoulder injury contributed to the derailment of the offense late in the season. The Tigers will now have to turn to a true freshman in the event Stidham is injured or misses time for any other reason.

Went from six scholarship QBs to two.
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