LSU's Trendon Holliday

[El Puerco Grande]

I heard Timmy B. refer to Holliday as being timed in the 40 at 4.09. Anybody buying that? I've heard of a few 4.2's, but never that fast.

[spudhog]

i buy it. that kid is a blur. i thought i heard at one time reggie swinton and deion running near the magical 4.00 line. can't confirm that though.

[COCHISE]

No way.

[DeltaBoy]

He is a NCAA 100 meter Champion !

[El Puerco Grande]

I hear 4.19 for Deion, and that's moving. Anyhow, the fastest guy at Ohio State wouldn't be 4th or 5th fastest at LSU.

[razorback3072]

i'm not buying it.  they said during one of the games that he is a 10.08 hundred meter guy.  Bo Jackson was timed @ 4.15 one time.  I'm just not buying Holliday running that fast

[spudhog]

i wonder what devin hester runs? and what ole daryl green ran in his hayday.

[Nashville Fan]

OSU won't know where is his. He is a difference maker. You can't build an offense around him like DMAC or Hester; but he definately causes serious missmatches for a defense, when he is in.

[Nashville Fan]

i wonder what devin hester runs? and what ole daryl green ran in his hayday.

I think Hester is 4.5ish. Closer to 4.6

[El Puerco Grande]

In our lifetime, I predict someone will run a 3.99!

[spudhog]

I think Hester is 4.5ish. Closer to 4.6

wow, he must have game speed then

[OnYourToes]

He is a NCAA 100 meter Champion !

He was runner up.

http://www.lsusports.net/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=5200&ATCLID=233482&Q_SEASON=2007
10.06 is still fast

[Mark_Freeman]

I heard Timmy B. refer to Holliday as being timed in the 40 at 4.09. Anybody buying that? I've heard of a few 4.2's, but never that fast.

Now im not positive, but i think they may have taken his 100 time and equated it to that 4.09, guesstimating as to how fast he is... either way, the man is fast. he isnt an NCAA 100 meter champ by accident.

[Nashville Fan]

wow, he must have game speed then

All heart and vision. They were commenting during the AR v LSU game what a difference a tenth of a second makes in paychecks in the NFL.

[Hogs GoneWild]

I think Hester is 4.5ish. Closer to 4.6

I think he is referring to the Hester that plays for the Bears. He runs easily a 4.4 or 4.3

[Mark_Freeman]

or runner up, i thought they said he was the champ? i shoulda known listening to CBS announcers is almost as bad as taking ESPN talking head opinions as fact...

[buckyhog]

From Wikipedia:

Many players with incredible times have also done amazing things in the NFL, for example:

Bo Jackson ran a 4.12[2]. As a part-time player, Bo averaged 5.4 yards per carry. He also had 221 rushing yards on November 30, 1987 (just 29 days after his first NFL carry), which is still a Monday Night Football record.
Deion Sanders officially ran a 4.17. He also ran a 4.57 backwards.
DeAngelo Hall, a cornerback currently playing for the Atlanta Falcons, ran a 4.15 second 40 yard dash (on a rubber track, which is considered informal for the 40 yard). On a regular dirt track he ran a 4.24.
Randy Moss, a wide receiver currently playing for the New England Patriots, ran a 4.25 second 40 yard dash. Moss currently holds the rookie TD reception record with 17.
Devin Hester ran a disappointing 4.5 40 at the 2006 NFL Scouting Combine, but then ran a 4.24 when he participated in the Pro Day event held by the University of Miami. He is now considered one of the best kick returners in NFL history and holds numerous return records.
Reggie Bush ran a 4.33, in 2006, he was the only rookie and the only running back to score a rushing TD and punt return TD. He also led the rookie running backs in receiving and set the NFL record for most catches by a NFL rookie running back
Ellis Hobbs, a cornerback currently playing for the New England Patriots, ran a 4.39 second 40-yard dash and has gone on to tie the record for the second-longest play, the longest being from chargers cornerback Antonio Cromartie on a field goal that was returned. (a 108 yard kick return; Devin Hester and Nathan Vasher), and also hold the record for the longest kick return.
Other notable 40 yard dash times (not all official or electric gate times) are:

Joey Galloway ran a 4.18, Michael Bennett supposedly ran a 4.13, Willie Gault, who played with Walter Payton on the 1985 Chicago Bears, supposedly has time of 3.95 and 4.08. Considering this, the fastest 40 ran by a professional sprinter was 4.2/4.3 by Asafa Powell (9.74,World Record), so the 3.95 stands as incorrect. However, Gault did once run a more legitimate 4.1 40. There have been many other 4.1 and 4.2 40 yard dashes recorded, and many of these were hand timed once again bringing in the human factor of, "margin for error".

[ErieHog]

Trindon Holiday is a world-class sprinter;  not the typical garbage you hear about football players with world-class speed [read: college track competitor]--  Holliday is a legitimate threat to be an Olympic sprinter.  His best time this year was .05 seconds off the fastest 100 meters in the world this year, and the best time posted by an American.

[spudhog]

I think he is referring to the Hester that plays for the Bears. He runs easily a 4.4 or 4.3

yeah, that sounds more like it. i could care less about what the lsu hester runs. he's a bruiser.

[Nashville Fan]

yeah, that sounds more like it. i could care less about what the lsu hester runs. he's a bruiser.

My bad. Devin Hester was clocked at 4.27 somewhere. Seems like most have him at 4.29.

Jacob Hester I just looked up is 4.73

[spudhog]

My bad. Devin Hester was clocked at 4.27 somewhere, I think. Jacob Hester I just looked up is 4.73

that's cool. it just blew me away that devin hester would be that slow. thanks

[JLaws]

He never really panned out in the NFL but when the Rams drafted Trung Canidate in 2000, he ran 4.0 according to Martz.

[taintlint]

Trendon is like lightning.

Of course, he also weighs 57 lbs.

[ICEman]

He probably does not have enough leg strength to push through a forty from a sprinter's start in that kind of speed (a converted average of 20.00 mph).  Most 10.00 sec sprinters do not hit their max speed until the 60 - 70 meter (65 to 75 yd) interval.

[bd93]

I think Hester is 4.5ish. Closer to 4.6

He ran a 4.24 at Miami's pro day back when ever he was coming out.

[Nashville Fan]

Check this out from buckyhog's post. It's from Wiki so believe what you want

Deion Sanders officially ran a 4.17. He also ran a 4.57 backwards

[Nashville Fan]

He ran a 4.24 at Miami's pro day back when ever he was coming out.

My bad I was talking Jacob Hester from LSU since the topic was about Holliday. I have a one track mind.

[bd93]

Check this out. It's from Wiki so believe what you want

Deion Sanders officially ran a 4.17. He also ran a 4.57 backwards

Yeah I read that too.  If it is ture and accurate, then that is pretty bad(in a good way).

[ICEman]

Trindon Holiday is a world-class sprinter;  not the typical garbage you hear about football players with world-class speed [read: college track competitor]--  Holliday is a legitimate threat to be an Olympic sprinter.  His best time this year was .05 seconds off the fastest 100 meters in the world this year, and the best time posted by an American.

Asafa's 9.74 100m run in early September is the fastest this year.  The TrackBack's own Tyson Gay has run a 9.84. These times are 0.30 and 0.20 seconds faster, respectively, than Trindon's collegiate best.

[LSUFan]

He ran the 4.09

The problem with him is he is so short it's hard to spot him coming out of the backfield before he gets going full speed.

Why he doesn't get more carries, I don't know.

[ICEman]

He ran the 4.09

The problem with him is he is so short it's hard to spot him coming out of the backfield before he gets going full speed.

Why he doesn't get more carries, I don't know.

Durability.

[LSUFan]

Durability.

Probably, I think he weighs in at a whopping 156lbs.

[eclipse]

I heard Timmy B. refer to Holliday as being timed in the 40 at 4.09. Anybody buying that? I've heard of a few 4.2's, but never that fast.

There was an article about 40 times done by an olympic running coach(will try to find it).  He broke down the world record 60m run and said the 40 yards was run in 4.29. 

He just laughed at the times some schools and the NFL were putting out for guys.  Neither the NFL or NCAA use electronic start and stop times.  Most are handheld and are VERY inaccurate.

[RazorsEdge]

Here is a good piece on 40 times

http://www.usoc.org/11611_32384.htm

[nolt]

hes *** fast

[taintlint]

Anytime I hear something from a track coach it falls in line with most 40 times being wildly inaccurate.

I read a good article somewhere about WHY the times are so messed up and it made sense. In other words, 4.1 & 4.2 times are almost mythical.

[Boarcephus]

Here you go.....


In track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time that is often considered to average 0.24 seconds when a starter reacts to the smoke of the starting gun). Although the 40-yard dash is not an official race in track and field, the 60 meter dash is an official distance in indoor track and field, with the world record for that race being 6.39 seconds (run twice by Maurice Greene, and once by Ben Johnson, whose record was annulled for Steroids). The fastest 60m split time is probably 6.32 seconds by Asafa Powell, in his 9.74 second 100m World Record run in Rieti, Italy. Fast starting elite sprinters such as Powell (and others past and present) can run a "Football 40" in less than 4 seconds, due to the sprinter not having to react to the sound of the gun, and the starter having to react to their movement before the clock starts. In the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, putting his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.242 seconds. When you subtract the reaction time to the gun (0.13 seconds), and a hypothetical timer's reaction time to Greene's motion, Greene's "Football 40" time for this race would have been less than 4 seconds.

[roundball]

NO WAY..we would have heard about that long ago!

[gobhog]

Here you go.....


In track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time that is often considered to average 0.24 seconds when a starter reacts to the smoke of the starting gun). Although the 40-yard dash is not an official race in track and field, the 60 meter dash is an official distance in indoor track and field, with the world record for that race being 6.39 seconds (run twice by Maurice Greene, and once by Ben Johnson, whose record was annulled for Steroids). The fastest 60m split time is probably 6.32 seconds by Asafa Powell, in his 9.74 second 100m World Record run in Rieti, Italy. Fast starting elite sprinters such as Powell (and others past and present) can run a "Football 40" in less than 4 seconds, due to the sprinter not having to react to the sound of the gun, and the starter having to react to their movement before the clock starts. In the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, putting his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.242 seconds. When you subtract the reaction time to the gun (0.13 seconds), and a hypothetical timer's reaction time to Greene's motion, Greene's "Football 40" time for this race would have been less than 4 seconds.

That is basically what I was going to say...but you beat me to it.
ANY reaction time faster than 0.1 seconds in a track and field race is ruled a false start because you can't react that fast

[lokopig]

i buy it. that kid is a blur. i thought i heard at one time reggie swinton and deion running near the magical 4.00 line. can't confirm that though.

I ran a 3.99......then I woke up

[Hogtropolis™]

Now im not positive, but i think they may have taken his 100 time and equated it to that 4.09, guesstimating as to how fast he is... either way, the man is fast. he isnt an NCAA 100 meter champ by accident.

I did that just for fun, and if you take his 10.06 sec 100-meter time and convert it to a 40-yard time, then he will have ran a 4.024 sec 40-yard dash.  So I am guessing they did something like that.

[pfrg999]

Joey Galloway ran a 4.19 but that is the fastest I have heard

[HogBaptist]

I ran a 3.99......then I woke up

I saw this joke one time....but I was in the 80's.

[Mrsherm]

What was Justin Gatlin's timed 40 at the combine last year?

I thought it was something sick like 4.10 or close to that. He was the sprinter that was facing a suspention from track n field for "banned substances" that tried out at wr in the NFL for a few teams.

I cant remember exact time, but it was LOOOOW.

[Beaverfever]

Don't know about 4.09 but he is FAST!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=psWYfO7rp9A

[Hog Fan from Camden]

Here you go.....


In track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which can take 0.10 to 0.20 seconds. For electronically timed 40 yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock (after a reaction time that is often considered to average 0.24 seconds when a starter reacts to the smoke of the starting gun). Although the 40-yard dash is not an official race in track and field, the 60 meter dash is an official distance in indoor track and field, with the world record for that race being 6.39 seconds (run twice by Maurice Greene, and once by Ben Johnson, whose record was annulled for Steroids). The fastest 60m split time is probably 6.32 seconds by Asafa Powell, in his 9.74 second 100m World Record run in Rieti, Italy. Fast starting elite sprinters such as Powell (and others past and present) can run a "Football 40" in less than 4 seconds, due to the sprinter not having to react to the sound of the gun, and the starter having to react to their movement before the clock starts. In the 2001 World Championship 100m final in Edmonton, Greene covered 30m in 3.75 seconds and 40m in 4.64 seconds, putting his 40 yard (36.576m) time at about 4.242 seconds. When you subtract the reaction time to the gun (0.13 seconds), and a hypothetical timer's reaction time to Greene's motion, Greene's "Football 40" time for this race would have been less than 4 seconds.

This is about the best explaination of 40 times that I have seen.  It makes perfect sense.   I'm impressed!

[PorkSoda]

I heard Timmy B. refer to Holliday as being timed in the 40 at 4.09. Anybody buying that? I've heard of a few 4.2's, but never that fast.

Hand Timed?

[JoePaul03]

Don't know about 4.09 but he is FAST!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=psWYfO7rp9A

I'm with you...In the LSU media guide/website it should just say "40 Time: Freaking Fast"
For real, I never believe all the junk you hear about insanely good 40Y.D. times...But if there was ever a guy who I would some outlandish story about, it'd be Holliday.

[Nutts and Bolts]

4.09?? Nope....

[SpiritHog]

yeah, that sounds more like it. i could care less about what the lsu hester runs. he's a bruiser.

Googled it and Devin Hester's 40 time in the combine was 4.27, which is the same as nfldraftscout has listed for Trindon.