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daprospecta

I think some people forget that we won 6 road games last year.  I don't see Georgia beating us even at their house.

Rirruto

Quote from: UNCLE BACK on August 21, 2017, 10:30:08 am
I think Gafford is the Wildcard, if he can get us 10 pts 8 Rebs and 2 blocks a game,(or close to that) We can win 25 to 28 games.
That's a pretty huge ask, but I think we're a 25+ win team anyway. Portis averaged 12 pts, 6.8 board, and 1.4 blocks. He ended up being second team all SEC with those numbers. Kingsley was 4 pts and 4 rebounds. Gafford falls somewhere in the middle in terms of recruiting rankings, which aren't everything but are useful in making comparisons. If we end up with 5-7 points and 5 or so rebounds out of Gafford, we should all do back flips. That's essentially Jimmy Whitt/Anton Beard level of impact, and it's generally tougher for big guys to adjust.

I love this team enough that I put some cash on us to win to whole thing, but I think we (at least a lot of posters here) might be expecting too much from the freshmen. If we get the above out of Gafford, a solid rotation player out of Garland, and count anything from Hall as a bonus, we'll be in great shape. These guys are going to be great for us. Someday.

 

Hawg Red

Quote from: daprospecta on August 24, 2017, 09:45:40 pm
I think some people forget that we won 6 road games last year.  I don't see Georgia beating us even at their house.

I haven't forgotten anything, including losses at Missouri last season and Clemson and Tennessee in 2014-2015. Winning on the road is hard. There's a reason why 6 SEC road wins was a record for the program last season. The league is tougher now than it ever has been since Anderson has been here. Could we win more than 2 road games? Sure. Will we win 6 again? Probably not. This team lost 3 leaders, including the leader scoring and leading defender/rebounder/shot blocker. You'll have to excuse my conservative prediction.

Did you see Missouri beating us, even at their house, last season?

Pinto

Quote from: FineAsSwine on August 24, 2017, 11:59:35 am
Gafford is going to have a big impact with his size and athleticism. Just hope he can stay out of foul trouble. Who do you like to win the wing spot?

I agree on the foul trouble issue although a big reason for his foul woes in high school was fatigue and awful officiating.

I'm going with Darious winning the wing spot by SEC play. Of course CMA will go with Beard, Macon, Barford, DT/Cook, Thompson to start the season though

FineAsSwine

Quote from: Pinto on August 25, 2017, 05:14:36 pm
I agree on the foul trouble issue although a big reason for his foul woes in high school was fatigue and awful officiating.

I'm going with Darious winning the wing spot by SEC play. Of course CMA will go with Beard, Macon, Barford, DT/Cook, Thompson to start the season though

It would be huge for the team if Darious could have that type of impact. I hope you are right.
Hogs up! Covid down!

ShadowHawg

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 25, 2017, 08:51:09 am
Did you see Missouri beating us, even at their house, last season?

I did. Not because I thought they were better than their record but because of the law of averages they were due and had nothing left to lose, especially there.

Youngsta71701

11/10 - Samford (W)
11/12 - Bucknell (W)
11/17 - Fresno State (W)
11/23 - Oklahoma [PK80] (W)
11/24 - North Carolina [PK80] (L)
11/26 - Michigan State/Oregon [PK80] (L)
12/2 - @ Houston (W)
12/5 - Colorado State (W)
12/9 - Minnesota (W)
12/16 - Troy [NLR] (W)
12/19 - Oral Roberts (W)
12/27 - Cal State Bakersfield (W)
12/30 - Tennessee (W) [1-0]
1/2 - @ Mississippi State (L) [1-1]
1/6 - @ Auburn (W) [2-1]
1/10 - LSU (W) [3-1]
1/13 - Missouri (W) [4-1]
1/17 - @ Florida (L) [4-2]
1/20 - Ole Miss (W) [5-2]
1/23 - @ Georgia (W) [6-2]
1/27 - Oklahoma State [SEC/Big 12 Challenge] (W)
1/30 - @ Texas A&M (L) [6-3]
2/3 - @ LSU (W) [7-3]
2/6 - South Carolina (W) [8-3]
2/10 - Vanderbilt (W) [9-3]
2/13 - @ Ole Miss (W) [10-3]
2/17 - Texas A&M (W) [11-3]
2/20 - Kentucky (L) [11-4]
2/24 - @ Alabama (L) [11-5]
2/27 - Auburn (W) [12-5]
3/3 - @ Missouri (W) [13-5]

11-2 OOC
13-5 SEC
24-7 overall (pre-SEC tournament)
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

Pinto

Quote from: Youngsta71701 on August 29, 2017, 07:52:40 am
11/10 - Samford (W)
11/12 - Bucknell (W)
11/17 - Fresno State (W)
11/23 - Oklahoma [PK80] (W)
11/24 - North Carolina [PK80] (L)
11/26 - Michigan State/Oregon [PK80] (L)
12/2 - @ Houston (W)
12/5 - Colorado State (W)
12/9 - Minnesota (W)
12/16 - Troy [NLR] (W)
12/19 - Oral Roberts (W)
12/27 - Cal State Bakersfield (W)
12/30 - Tennessee (W) [1-0]
1/2 - @ Mississippi State (L) [1-1]
1/6 - @ Auburn (W) [2-1]
1/10 - LSU (W) [3-1]
1/13 - Missouri (W) [4-1]
1/17 - @ Florida (L) [4-2]
1/20 - Ole Miss (W) [5-2]
1/23 - @ Georgia (W) [6-2]
1/27 - Oklahoma State [SEC/Big 12 Challenge] (W)
1/30 - @ Texas A&M (L) [6-3]
2/3 - @ LSU (W) [7-3]
2/6 - South Carolina (W) [8-3]
2/10 - Vanderbilt (W) [9-3]
2/13 - @ Ole Miss (W) [10-3]
2/17 - Texas A&M (W) [11-3]
2/20 - Kentucky (L) [11-4]
2/24 - @ Alabama (L) [11-5]
2/27 - Auburn (W) [12-5]
3/3 - @ Missouri (W) [13-5]

11-2 OOC
13-5 SEC
24-7 overall (pre-SEC tournament)

Oklahoma worries me. They've been playing well this summer...

Letsroll1200

Quote from: Pinto on August 29, 2017, 08:23:57 am
Oklahoma worries me. They've been playing well this summer...

One of their better players will be suspended for the game. Kristian Doolittle I believe that's his name. That might give us a slight advantage over Oklahoma. We really need Cook or Thomas to become impact players at the forward position.

Pinto

Quote from: Letsroll1200 on August 29, 2017, 08:44:24 am
One of their better players will be suspended for the game. Kristian Doolittle I believe that's his name. That might give us a slight advantage over Oklahoma. We really need Cook or Thomas to become impact players at the forward position.

Yeah that's helps a little. Hopefully Barford will stop Trae Young from penetrating the paint and picking us apart like Jawun Evans from OK St did last year.

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Pinto on August 29, 2017, 08:23:57 am
Oklahoma worries me. They've been playing well this summer...
Yep, that game and any road game still worries me. But in some of the 50/50 games I'm giving us the benefit of the doubt because of out experience. We have 6 seniors that have all played quite a bit. When is the last time we've been able to say that if ever?
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

Pinto

Quote from: Youngsta71701 on August 29, 2017, 09:56:05 am
Yep, that game and any road game still worries me. But in some of the 50/50 games I'm giving us the benefit of the doubt because of out experience. We have 6 seniors that have all played quite a bit. When is the last time we've been able to say that if ever?

07-08 year probably. What a let down that season was...

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Pinto on August 29, 2017, 10:19:22 am
07-08 year probably. What a let down that season was...
I'm thinking we have better senior players this year and to go along with a better coach. And hopefully the injury bug doesn't hit us. Not to mention I think our freshmen will be ready to contribute pretty early. At least by the time conference play roles around.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

 

FineAsSwine

Quote from: Pinto on August 29, 2017, 08:23:57 am
Oklahoma worries me. They've been playing well this summer...

Don't want our guys focusing too much on revenge against UNC and get bushwhacked by the Sooners. I know that they have been hearing a lot about how close they were to beating the Heels last season but that can be an unnecessary distraction from the task at hand.

To make a long story short, Oklahoma worries me too.
Hogs up! Covid down!

HF#1

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 24, 2017, 02:16:51 pm
11/10 - Samford (W)
11/12 - Bucknell (L)
11/17 - Fresno State (W)
11/23 - Oklahoma [PK80] (W)
11/24 - North Carolina [PK80] (L)
11/26 - Michigan State/Oregon [PK80] (L)
12/2 - @ Houston (W)
12/5 - Colorado State (W)
12/9 - Minnesota (W)
12/16 - Troy [NLR] (W)
12/19 - Oral Roberts (W)
12/27 - Cal State Bakersfield (W)
12/30 - Tennessee (W) [1-0]
1/2 - @ Mississippi State (L) [1-1]
1/6 - @ Auburn (W) [2-1]
1/10 - LSU (W) [3-1]
1/13 - Missouri (W) [4-1]
1/17 - @ Florida (L) [4-2]
1/20 - Ole Miss (W) [5-2]
1/23 - @ Georgia (L) [5-3]
1/27 - Oklahoma State [SEC/Big 12 Challenge] (W)
1/30 - @ Texas A&M (L) [5-4]
2/3 - @ LSU (W) [6-4]
2/6 - South Carolina (W) [7-4]
2/10 - Vanderbilt (W) [8-4]
2/13 - @ Ole Miss (L) [8-5]
2/17 - Texas A&M (L) [8-6]
2/20 - Kentucky (W) [9-6]
2/24 - @ Alabama (L) [9-7]
2/27 - Auburn (W) [10-7]
3/3 - @ Missouri (L) [10-8]

10-3 OOC
10-8 SEC
20-11 overall (pre-SEC tournament)



Am I the only one that thinks this would be considerably disappointing?
"We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid."  <br /><br />Benjamin Franklin

Deli Owl

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 24, 2017, 02:16:51 pm
11/10 - Samford (W)
11/12 - Bucknell (L)
11/17 - Fresno State (W)
11/23 - Oklahoma [PK80] (W)
11/24 - North Carolina [PK80] (L)
11/26 - Michigan State/Oregon [PK80] (L)
12/2 - @ Houston (W)
12/5 - Colorado State (W)
12/9 - Minnesota (W)
12/16 - Troy [NLR] (W)
12/19 - Oral Roberts (W)
12/27 - Cal State Bakersfield (W)
12/30 - Tennessee (W) [1-0]
1/2 - @ Mississippi State (L) [1-1]
1/6 - @ Auburn (W) [2-1]
1/10 - LSU (W) [3-1]
1/13 - Missouri (W) [4-1]
1/17 - @ Florida (L) [4-2]
1/20 - Ole Miss (W) [5-2]
1/23 - @ Georgia (L) [5-3]
1/27 - Oklahoma State [SEC/Big 12 Challenge] (W)
1/30 - @ Texas A&M (L) [5-4]
2/3 - @ LSU (W) [6-4]
2/6 - South Carolina (W) [7-4]
2/10 - Vanderbilt (W) [8-4]
2/13 - @ Ole Miss (L) [8-5]
2/17 - Texas A&M (L) [8-6]
2/20 - Kentucky (W) [9-6]
2/24 - @ Alabama (L) [9-7]
2/27 - Auburn (W) [10-7]
3/3 - @ Missouri (L) [10-8]

10-3 OOC
10-8 SEC
20-11 overall (pre-SEC tournament)
Lose to Bucknell but beat KY?  I'm guessing Bucknell in the FF then.

HawgsPolo

Quote from: HF#1 on August 29, 2017, 12:03:51 pm
Am I the only one that thinks this would be considerably disappointing?
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They will win more than 20 games trust me on this one.
Go Cubs Go!!!!!

gmarv

Quote from: HawgsPolo on August 29, 2017, 12:27:37 pm
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They will win more than 20 games trust me on this one.
I second that.I,m thinking closer to 24 than 20 by sec tourney time.

Pinto

Quote from: FineAsSwine on August 29, 2017, 11:03:31 am
Don't want our guys focusing too much on revenge against UNC and get bushwhacked by the Sooners. I know that they have been hearing a lot about how close they were to beating the Heels last season but that can be an unnecessary distraction from the task at hand.

To make a long story short, Oklahoma worries me too.

Trap game for sure

PonderinHog

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 29, 2017, 12:18:04 pm
Lose to Bucknell but beat KY?  I'm guessing Bucknell in the FF then.
Second game of the season.  Lot of new pieces.  I hope he's wrong about the Bucknell game and right about the Kentucky game.

Pinto

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 29, 2017, 12:18:04 pm
Lose to Bucknell but beat KY?  I'm guessing Bucknell in the FF then.

...that's silly logic

Hawg Red

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 29, 2017, 12:18:04 pm
Lose to Bucknell but beat KY?  I'm guessing Bucknell in the FF then.

Helluva first post.

We have a winner here....

Hawg Red

Quote from: HF#1 on August 29, 2017, 12:03:51 pm
Am I the only one that thinks this would be considerably disappointing?

It's not what I want; it's what I see when I look at the schedule.

What do you think we'll do?

BannerMountainMan

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 29, 2017, 03:04:49 pm
It's not what I want; it's what I see when I look at the schedule.

What do you think we'll do?
20-11 will be get you better than an 8 seed this year. So no complaints here, 22-9 will prolly get a 5-6 seed, not even counting a few wins in the SEC tourney
"Michael Qualls with the dunk at the buzzer, it goes and Arkansas wins, it goes and Arkansas wins"

 

Youngsta71701

Quote from: HF#1 on August 29, 2017, 12:03:51 pm
Am I the only one that thinks this would be considerably disappointing?
Nope, "You are not alone" in my Michael Jackson voice.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

Deli Owl

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 29, 2017, 02:50:29 pm
Helluva first post.

We have a winner here....
I have no idea why anyone would think you would lose to Bucknell.  If you have to worry about them, the season may be in trouble.

Pinto

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 30, 2017, 10:56:00 am
I have no idea why anyone would think you would lose to Bucknell.  If you have to worry about them, the season may be in trouble.

Because it's the second game of the season and they are a very experienced team...

Deli Owl

Quote from: Pinto on August 30, 2017, 10:57:54 am
Because it's the second game of the season and they are a very experienced team...
It's still Bucknell.  You got this.

Pinto

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 30, 2017, 11:32:15 am
It's still Bucknell.  You got this.

Bucknell beat us in the tourney like 10 years ago...

Hawg Red

Quote from: Deli Owl on August 30, 2017, 10:56:00 am
I have no idea why anyone would think you would lose to Bucknell.  If you have to worry about them, the season may be in trouble.

First of all, you disrespect the Bucknell Bison. If we lost to Bucknell, it wouldn't be a bad loss per se. They were 26-9 (15-3 Patriot League) last season. Lost by 6 points to WVU in the first round of the tournament. They bring back EVERYONE. I'm not saying it's a lock that we lose or that Bucknell is better, but an experienced returning group in the 2nd game of the season? We could slip up there if we aren't careful. Teams like Bucknell live for those non-con pick-off opportunities.

Pinto

Quote from: Hawg Red on August 30, 2017, 12:35:37 pm
First of all, you disrespect the Bucknell Bison. If we lost to Bucknell, it wouldn't be a bad loss per se. They were 26-9 (15-3 Patriot League) last season. Lost by 6 points to WVU in the first round of the tournament. They bring back EVERYONE. I'm not saying it's a lock that we lose or that Bucknell is better, but an experienced returning group in the 2nd game of the season? We could slip up there if we aren't careful. Teams like Bucknell live for those non-con pick-off opportunities.

Yeah man, Bucknell is a very important game.

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Pinto on August 30, 2017, 11:57:44 am
Bucknell beat us in the tourney like 10 years ago...
Exactly. 10 years ago...
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

Pinto


Hawg Red

Quote from: Youngsta71701 on August 30, 2017, 01:51:34 pm
Exactly. 10 years ago...

The fact that we are still talking about Bucknell as a tough out 10 years later tells us all we need to know. They've won 22 or more games in 7/13 seasons going back to 2004-2005. They've made the same number of NCAA tournament appearances as Arkansas has over that time span as well (5). Love Bucknell on our schedule, just wish it was sandwiched in between some of the lower RPI schools later on in the non-con.

UNCLE BACK

August 31, 2017, 12:42:24 pm #84 Last Edit: September 01, 2017, 03:09:47 pm by UNCLE BACK
Quote from: Hawg Red on August 30, 2017, 12:35:37 pm
First of all, you disrespect the Bucknell Bison. If we lost to Bucknell, it wouldn't be a bad loss per se. They were 26-9 (15-3 Patriot League) last season. Lost by 6 points to WVU in the first round of the tournament. They bring back EVERYONE. I'm not saying it's a lock that we lose or that Bucknell is better, but an experienced returning group in the 2nd game of the season? We could slip up there if we aren't careful. Teams like Bucknell live for those non-con pick-off opportunities.
This is a tough game and what bothers me is that our fan base will not show up most likely because of how early in the year it is played. We will have about 7200 people at the Bud.

Pinto

Quote from: UNCLE BACK on August 31, 2017, 12:42:24 pm
This is a tough game and what bothers me is that our fan base will not show up most likely because of how early in the year it is played. We will have about 7200 people at the Bud.

If this was last year I would agree but I think there will be a solid actual 10k at every game this season. We came off of a bad season the year before last and the average fan didn't know much about the new faces...

Hogopolis

Quote from: Razorod on August 21, 2017, 06:05:24 am
My thoughts are:

10-3 Non-conference
11-7 Conference
1-1 SEC Tourney

22-11 Overall

Don't know where that puts with regard to the NCAA tournament.
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If this team goes 10-3 non conference, with the teams they are playing, then no way they lose 7 in sec.  their non conference slate is tougher than the sec schedule.   

WorfHog

We got enough wins on there to make the dance. After that it's luck of the draw. Maybe we can avoid UNC in the second round and play them in the Sweet 16!

UNCLE BACK

Quote from: Pinto on September 02, 2017, 03:02:48 pm
If this was last year I would agree but I think there will be a solid actual 10k at every game this season. We came off of a bad season the year before last and the average fan didn't know much about the new faces...
It was the same way the year before that. I hope you are correct though...

Pinto

Quote from: UNCLE BACK on September 05, 2017, 04:23:21 pm
It was the same way the year before that. I hope you are correct though...

The year before last was the most boring Razorback team we've had in a really long time though

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Pinto on August 30, 2017, 02:16:29 pm
So it can't happen again?
Our program is in a whole lot better shape than 10 years ago. But upsets can always happen no matter how good your program is. That's a part of sports. But I wouldn't expect it.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

yocdaddy

Hard to tell if people are serious or sarcastic...

I don't think we are better than last year, since we lost Hannahs, Kingsley, and Watkins. 

In addition to those losses, the conference is likely better this year.  We'll have about 22 wins going into the NCAA tournament.  Likely to go 1-1 in the dance, depending on our draw.
"More people would learn from their mistakes, if they weren't so busy denying them."  --Harold J. Smith

Pinto

Quote from: Youngsta71701 on September 06, 2017, 01:30:25 pm
Our program is in a whole lot better shape than 10 years ago. But upsets can always happen no matter how good your program is. That's a part of sports. But I wouldn't expect it.

That's debatable.

Pinto

Quote from: yocdaddy on September 06, 2017, 02:19:35 pm
Hard to tell if people are serious or sarcastic...

I don't think we are better than last year, since we lost Hannahs, Kingsley, and Watkins. 

In addition to those losses, the conference is likely better this year.  We'll have about 22 wins going into the NCAA tournament.  Likely to go 1-1 in the dance, depending on our draw.

I'm fine with those losses. We'll miss Dusty's streaky scoring at times but I'll take a more experience Barford and Macon to make up for that scoring. Gafford will replace Kingsley pretty well and will be among the best paint protectors in the league. We will miss Manny's intangibles but we have more talented players ready to fill his spot. But I agree, SEC has more depth this year...

Youngsta71701

Quote from: Pinto on September 06, 2017, 02:20:32 pm
That's debatable.
Not even debatable unless of course you want it to be.
"The more things change the more they stay the same"

rzrbackramsfan

Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on August 22, 2017, 01:10:19 pm
12-1 OOC
14-4 Sec
3-0 Sec tournament

Sweet 16

31-6

Idk how I feel about this prediction with cook gone.  I know you say 2.5 points and 2.5 boards, but I saw him taking the juco jump.  Plus, we enjoyed that depth.  He definitely hAd games last year where he was our top power forward.  He said he was working on his three too which would've made our three point shooting only that more lethal. 

Hawg Red

Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on September 06, 2017, 04:56:39 pm
Idk how I feel about this prediction with cook gone.  I know you say 2.5 points and 2.5 boards, but I saw him taking the juco jump.  Plus, we enjoyed that depth.  He definitely hAd games last year where he was our top power forward.  He said he was working on his three too which would've made our three point shooting only that more lethal.

Yeah, the possibility of no Arlando Cook is what makes that prediction too optimistic.

Pinto

I don't think we would miss Cook that much. Plus it possibly could be an addition by subtraction situation. More minutes for Adrio Bailey which would help us out down the long run.

RebHog

Someone to replace Kingsley's non-stat sheet defense is key IMO. There were many missed shots or non attempts cause of his presence in the paint and who will replace him for battling on rebounds? I don't see that player on the roster so unless someone emerges the guards will have to be that much better to compensate for this.

HoopS

You also have to account for the improved defense in the Hannah's replacement. You kose some leadership from Watkins. Smarts. You'll gain a more natural scorer likely. I think losing Cook would equal a net loss. He may not be an AA but he's a senior with SEC experience. I always cringe when I see people wish players like that away. If he has proven to be someone coach believes should be dismissed, then i back it. Short of that, I look forward to him contributing.