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RandallA

Since we all know that SEC football is the best, what conference would yall say is the most overrated? For me that's easy... the Big 10. Compared to the SEC, the Big 10 is a joke.

sasnakrafan

Big 10. Michigan won the game for Loyd Carr, Slohio will lose to LSU.

 

PigglyWiggly

PAC 10 (except USC, I hate them, but they're legit)
And this year only, I think I'd put the Big 12 ahead of the Big 10 in terms of crappiness

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RandallA

I agree the Pac10 is also overrated, but we all know USC is a power house... and Oregon was pretty damn good before Dixon got hurt. That said, almost every other team in the Pac10 really sucks.

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Pac-10. The whole conference rides on USC's apron strings. Majority of their fans are bandwagoners.
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I also say Pac10. Huge drop off from USC to the next team.
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PAC-10 with of course USC being the cream of the crop.

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Quote from: RandallA on January 03, 2008, 12:48:55 pm
Since we all know that SEC football is the best, what conference would yall say is the most overrated? For me that's easy... the Big 10. Compared to the SEC, the Big 10 is a joke.

The SEC is more overhyped than any other conference is overrated.  People take the SEC dominance too far.  Egg can definately be thrown in our faces when you do this.  A Big 10 fan will point out they have a clear winning bowl record against us over the last 4 years (6-3) I believe.   Yes, we have more quality depth than any other conference, we have a slightly better bowl record than any other major conference over the past few years, and we have more national champions than anyone else in recent years but the top teams of any other major conference can beat the top teams of the SEC.  I totally disagree with you that the "Big 10 is a joke".  That is a terrible overstatement, one that many SEC fans are guilty of.  

LZH

Pac 10 = Big Ten = Big 12...

The SEC teams are all built to beat (and beat up on) each other.  I have to think this is why when an SEC team steps out of conference against a 'weaker' opponent (and no, I'm NOT referring to Mizzou), they sometimes struggle to win games you'd think would be a blowout, imo.  Of course, I guess every BCS conference could say the same thing...I never would have thought WV would manhandle OU, ya know.

 

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rockyb_78

Big 10 and PAC 10.  They both have a couple of good top teams but it's a big drop off after that.  I do agree that the best teams in those conferences could beat a lot of SEC teams, but top to bottom the SEC is better.

jpenrod1

Last year was the Big 10. this year the Pac 10. Everybody in the Pac 10 is average at best except USC.

LZH

Quote from: BigDrDon on January 03, 2008, 01:18:39 pm

WAC sucks!

That's funny...I can't even think of 'WAC' without a grin..."crack is WAC"...

hogfanshan

Sun Belt...According to TCTWF, we had some great wins against quality opponents.

Just joking...gotta be PAC 10 or BIG 10.

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aar0n

Pac 10, Big 10 and 12
WAC makes me giggle a little too
Sunbelt!!!!!!!  (sarcasm)

memphishog

i think the pac-10. big 10 isn't as much over rated as they are just being left behind in 3 yards and a cloud of dust.

aar0n

Quote from: memphishog on January 03, 2008, 02:09:45 pm
i think the pac-10. big 10 isn't as much over rated as they are just being left behind in 3 yards and a cloud of dust.
plus you actually have to be "rated" in the first place to be overrated

razorback93

Quote from: LedZepHog on January 03, 2008, 01:54:31 pm
That's funny...I can't even think of 'WAC' without a grin..."crack is WAC"...
The WAC is wac, dawg.

RandallA

Those chumps from Hawaii are definitely wac

 

arkjay19

I think all of them are tied as most overrated except for the ACC, because they thought they were going to be awesome but they know they aren't, and the SEC, because they know they're the best and the prove it.  The Big 11, the Big XII, Pac-10, and Big East try to say every year that they're the best and/or most competitive conference in the nation.

Big 10 - maybe the slowest BCS conference and plays overwhelmingly weak OOC games.  They do have pretty good in conference tradition, but they're just overhyped way too much each and every year by the media; that conference deserved only one BCS bowl this year, but got the privelege of a second.

Big XII - Oklahoma and Texas dominate the conference almost every year, you can't be the best conference if one or two teams constantly dominate.  Oklahoma has now lost their last 4 BCS bowl games.  Yeah, good thing they got the national championship bid over Auburn a few years ago.

Big East - a pretty competitive conference, but still probably the weakest BCS conference.  Two of their preseason favorites were huge flops.  UCONN got a share of the conference title, that's like when Wake Forest won the ACC last year, except the ACC wasn't claiming to be the best conference either.

Pac-10 - dominated each and every year by one freakin team.  One player for Oregon is the difference between national championship game and 7 or 8 wins, are you kidding me?  Arizona State deserved a BCS bowl bid over Illinois, but there's a reason Erickson is getting so much praise for winning that much with THAT team.

jmalott86

January 03, 2008, 02:28:41 pm #25 Last Edit: January 03, 2008, 02:30:38 pm by jmalott86
How can it be the Big Ten, they have a winning record against the SEC over the last ten years, people are just blowing the OSU loss to Florida last year out of proportion. Big Ten can play with anyone.

Most of the so called slow players that play for OSU are recruited out of Florida and Texas, ask Miami a couple years ago if the Big Ten is slow or how about Florida this year?

RandallA

The top 0f the Big 10 can play with anyone (on occassion...), but the rest of that conference is one big craptacular joke.

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Quote from: PigglyWiggly on January 03, 2008, 12:53:00 pm
PAC 10 (except USC, I hate them, but they're legit)
And this year only, I think I'd put the Big 12 ahead of the Big 10 in terms of crappiness
I'd say Big 12 also.
Everyone was amazed at how good Oklahoma was and they got blown out by West Virginia.
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I don't see how hog fans can talk about stuff like this after getting a serious beatdown in the cotton bowl by a team that oklahoma beat twice.

Conference smack is for losers.

I want the hogs to win, if they do that the rest takes care of itself.

Maybe in the next few years we'll have some hog victories to talk about instead of how great the sec is.

WrigleyvilleHog

Quote from: RandallA on January 03, 2008, 02:31:59 pm
The top 0f the Big 10 can play with anyone (on occassion...), but the rest of that conference is one big craptacular joke.

The Big 11 has their moments but I would gladly play any of their top teams year in and year out before going against the likes of the SEC. 

RandallA

Quote from: WrigleyvilleHog on January 03, 2008, 02:38:15 pm
The Big 11 has their moments but I would gladly play any of their top teams year in and year out before going against the likes of the SEC. 

Completely agree.

jmalott86

OSU, Michigan, Illinois, MSU, Penn State, Purdue, and/or Wisconsin would consistently beat down the likes of Arkansas (the last ten years), Miss St., Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, or Alabama (nothing but a name lately). Its all about the top teams in each conference, overall Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, even Pac 10 probably pretty even at the top

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ESPN.............ok, I know they're not a football conference but after the bashing they have given Arkansas and Petrino, they are highly overrated and should be demoted to the ScFi Channel.
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With the American sports commentariat continually praising the SEC as the 'best' overall conference, how could any other conference be overrated?  The SEC is probably the best, top to bottom, but what does that matter?  Arkansas will never have the type of monsters that Michigan had on the field against Florida.  When was the last time you saw one of our receivers make a catch like WV's did intercepting in the end zone last night?  And the SEC speed advantage is purely a myth.  Not putting the SEC down, but it is clearly the most overrated.

PolishPigPower

I gotta go with the ACC.  BC, Wake, Florida State, Clemson, Miami, GA Tech... none of these impress me.  Granted, VT is tough as nails each year, but having one elite team doesn't make you a fierce conference.  NC State is another overrated team, too, IMHO.  How ironic that this was the conference we were initially raiding to find a new coach!
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Quote from: jmalott86 on January 03, 2008, 02:44:51 pm
OSU, Michigan, Illinois, MSU, Penn State, Purdue, and/or Wisconsin would consistently beat down the likes of Arkansas (the last ten years), Miss St., Ole Miss, Vandy, Kentucky, South Carolina, or Alabama (nothing but a name lately). Its all about the top teams in each conference, overall Big Ten, SEC, Big 12, even Pac 10 probably pretty even at the top

Put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard.  If they believed that they would schedule someone like that for OOC games.  It is a well discussed (nationally) issue of the Big Ten is that they work the bowl system, ie no loss Big ten team playing patsies gets a better BCS ranking than a 1 loss SEC team that came through a meatgrinder.  Then when the SEC team show up healthy at the bowl and layeth the smacketh down, they just say we were rusty.  It is not that any one team in the 10 could beat any one team in the SEC.  It is that you play all of them.  It's not like if you lined up Vandy and Wisconsin that I would be surprised with Vandy winning between 3-6 of them.  The same could be said for any of the other 10 or SEC schools you mentioned.  Some of them the ratio would go up or down depending on the school.  In your scenario, you mentioned the traditional bottom of the SEC against the top of the ten, that is the most telling aspect of all.  The top of a BCS conference should consistently beat down the bottom of another BCS conference.  The top of the SEC would consistently beat the bottom of the 10 as well.  If a ten game series were played between FL and Northwestern or LSU and Indiana, I don't 3-6 wins.  I see 1-2 wins.  I see no physical beating like you get in the SEC.  The only meaningful game in that whole conference is OSU and Michigan.  That's along way from true in the SEC.
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January 03, 2008, 03:17:03 pm #37 Last Edit: January 03, 2008, 03:21:27 pm by jmalott86
Quote from: wholehog92 on January 03, 2008, 03:11:29 pm
Put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard.  If they believed that they would schedule someone like that for OOC games.  It is a well discussed (nationally) issue of the Big Ten is that they work the bowl system, ie no loss Big ten team playing patsies gets a better BCS ranking than a 1 loss SEC team that came through a meatgrinder.  Then when the SEC team show up healthy at the bowl and layeth the smacketh down, they just say we were rusty.  It is not that any one team in the 10 could beat any one team in the SEC.  It is that you play all of them.  It's not like if you lined up Vandy and Wisconsin that I would be surprised with Vandy winning between 3-6 of them.  The same could be said for any of the other 10 or SEC schools you mentioned.  Some of them the ratio would go up or down depending on the school.  In your scenario, you mentioned the traditional bottom of the SEC against the top of the ten, that is the most telling aspect of all.  The top of a BCS conference should consistently beat down the bottom of another BCS conference.  The top of the SEC would consistently beat the bottom of the 10 as well.  If a ten game series were played between FL and Northwestern or LSU and Indiana, I don't 3-6 wins.  I see 1-2 wins.  I see no physical beating like you get in the SEC.  The only meaningful game in that whole conference is OSU and Michigan.  That's along way from true in the SEC.

Come on, the post I responded to stated that they would rather see arkansas face the top of the big ten than play in the SEC. Thats the point I was making with the comparison of teams from the top and bottom.

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Also, dont blame the Big Ten for being the only conf. smart enough to not play a championship game. What benefit do those games provide besides money? As for oocs, who did Arkansas play this year, how bout alabama (they did lose to ULM didnt they), Ky, Auburn loses to SF, come on get off your SEC high horse there is parody is college football all the big conf are just about equal.

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Quote from: jmalott86 on January 03, 2008, 03:17:03 pm
Come on, the post I responded to stated that they would rather see arkansas face the top of the big ten than play in the SEC. Thats the point I was making with the comparison of teams from the top and bottom.

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Big twelve until this year. OU is overrated in the preseason top 5 each year and only has to beat Texas to get to the N C game. Fortunately, this year they lost to TT and a nobody Colorado.


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Quote from: jmalott86 on January 03, 2008, 03:17:03 pmcome on get off your SEC high horse there is parody is college football all the big conf are just about equal.

No, not really. Not at all.

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Quote from: HogInBflo on January 03, 2008, 01:17:02 pm
The SEC is more overhyped than any other conference is overrated.  People take the SEC dominance too far.  Egg can definately be thrown in our faces when you do this.  A Big 10 fan will point out they have a clear winning bowl record against us over the last 4 years (6-3) I believe.   Yes, we have more quality depth than any other conference, we have a slightly better bowl record than any other major conference over the past few years, and we have more national champions than anyone else in recent years but the top teams of any other major conference can beat the top teams of the SEC.  I totally disagree with you that the "Big 10 is a joke".  That is a terrible overstatement, one that many SEC fans are guilty of.  

Atleast we are guilty of speaking the truth.
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If Kansas loses tonight I will just be embarrassed for the Big 12.

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The Big 10, followed so closely by the Pac 10 (USC the exception).

And therefore, the resulting choice for the most overrated game, by default, the Rose Bowl.

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