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Game Thread: Liberty Bowl: Kevin Smith Catching Barry, or Getting Croomed?

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Sao Ming

December 29, 2007, 07:47:38 pm #100
Pegues is a player now. 

ErieHog

December 29, 2007, 07:48:25 pm #101
Quote from: Sao Ming on December 29, 2007, 07:47:38 pm
Pegues is a player now. 

He's been a player since he arrived at MSU; at times, he was the best player on their team as a nickle-back as a Fr.
No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."
 

want2be

December 29, 2007, 07:50:07 pm #102
  Stick a fork in it............it's done

Sao Ming

December 29, 2007, 07:50:50 pm #103
The final stats on this thing are a laugher.  I would post them but MSU keeps losing yards.

Passing will end up 8/20 for 39 yards, no TD's and 1 INT for MSU.

El Supremo

December 29, 2007, 07:52:18 pm #104
First SEC Bowl win isn't it?

Sao Ming

December 29, 2007, 07:52:42 pm #105
Croom to bucket:  Ooooh schitt!  ooohhh shyte!

LOL

PorkBrainz

December 29, 2007, 07:53:10 pm #106
YEA!
Go Hogs!

Sao Ming

December 29, 2007, 07:53:55 pm #107
Nice 8-5 season for Croom. 

Congrats MSU.

Maverick Razorback

December 29, 2007, 07:53:56 pm #108
Congrats MSU on the win..chalk one up for the SEC!!
IF YOU AINT FIRST...YOUR LAST!!

One of Arkansas last lowriders.

ThrillaHog

December 29, 2007, 07:55:03 pm #109
Congrats to Croom and Miss. State, nice win for the SEC and your program

Rascal

December 29, 2007, 07:55:54 pm #110
Quote from: Sao Ming on December 29, 2007, 07:24:50 pm
HDN will have his hands full with the MSU defense. 


His hands are full with Twiggie's boobs

Sao Ming

December 29, 2007, 08:01:18 pm #111
Quote from: Rascal on December 29, 2007, 07:55:54 pm

His hands are full with Twiggie's boobs

Will you kindly vacuum the dinner roll I just sprayed the office with?

Qbackinman

December 29, 2007, 11:54:08 pm #112

I had a problem with Smith's "record run" anyway. Sanders did it when the NCAA didn't count bowl games in season statistics. Plus, Barry played only 11 games. Smith has played what 13?

Regular season should mean regular season and not count bowl games.
 

msudawgs64

December 30, 2007, 12:19:02 am #113
thanks guys...that was brutal at times to watch but man the defense rose to the occasion today. 

Croom has to get rid of McCorvey if he wants to run any half ass offense.  Basically from all indications, Carroll went to the bench before that last TD drive and told Croom to put him in and he would run the offense into the endzone.   

Henig only came in to wake Carroll up, he won't ever start again.

Anyhoo, this was a great year. 
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base.  ~Dave Barry

"I'd rather lose a game like that than a 5-4 ballgame when somebody walks in the winning run or makes an error" -MSU's former head coach Ron Polk after South Carolina pummeled the Bulldogs 20-3 on 3/23/2007.

Feb. 20, 2009-a new era in MSU Baseball begins.

Sao Ming

December 30, 2007, 12:23:10 am #114
Quote from: msudawgs64 on December 30, 2007, 12:19:02 am
thanks guys...that was brutal at times to watch but man the defense rose to the occasion today. 

Croom has to get rid of McCorvey if he wants to run any half ass offense.  Basically from all indications, Carroll went to the bench before that last TD drive and told Croom to put him in and he would run the offense into the endzone.  

Henig only came in to wake Carroll up, he won't ever start again.

Anyhoo, this was a great year. 

Great season bro.  8-5 is a nice turnaround and one to be very proud of. 

FootballFanatic

December 30, 2007, 02:53:16 pm #115
This was one of those games where you couldn't stand to watch on TV but was an amazing atmosphere there. The MSU fans were live and traveled well!. I believe they sold over 40k in tickets. There was a total of 63,000 which was a new Liberty Bowl record. All the fans brought the cowboys and their voices because they were ringing and yelling all game. Their fans were very respectable and were HIGHLY complimentory of DMAC. Saying "he shouldve won the Heisman", "he's the greatest running back they've seen", "they would take him over any player in the NCAA". Another thing they thought was funny was Houston Nutt going to Ole Miss.  They plan on making a few chants and signs for the Dale next year.

Trottsky

December 30, 2007, 03:10:49 pm #116
Hail Dear Old State!

They wore 'em down and took 'em out.

Never liked the cowbells (even in my 4 years there) but Sylvester is one bad puttytat!

Beat Ole Miss!

Donny2665

December 30, 2007, 06:42:55 pm #117 Last Edit: December 30, 2007, 06:59:08 pm by Hackett Hog Fan
Croomed, you gotta love it, and to think George O'Leary was mentioned as a possible Head Coach for us. We couldn't have a coach that has been Croomed.
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HoopS

December 30, 2007, 08:16:28 pm #118
Didn't Tubby get Croomed?

I wouldn't brag too much about that game.  They held MSU to 10 points and 7 of those came towards the end and Smith outrushed McFadden against them.

Bryan (CHF)

December 30, 2007, 08:22:07 pm #119
Quote from: Qbackinman on December 29, 2007, 11:54:08 pm
I had a problem with Smith's "record run" anyway. Sanders did it when the NCAA didn't count bowl games in season statistics. Plus, Barry played only 11 games. Smith has played what 13?

Regular season should mean regular season and not count bowl games.
Yeah Smith played in 14 total games. Barry would have had another 220-something yards if his bowl game was counted. Smith was still over 60 yards shy though. It was funny watching the UCF fans come on rivals and try to claim that Smith was better than McFadden since Smith had a better ypc 3.4 to 3.1. Needless to say, they got lambasted by fans from every other school, including non-SEC fans.
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Why Ed does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend... I just don't think I could bear it!

HoopS

December 30, 2007, 08:29:08 pm #120
I would certainly take DMac over him.  I think some are overstating the case for Smith because it is all falling on deaf ears.  I don't think he's better than Darren but the general reaction is that he is horrible when compared to Darren and that just isn't true.  He's good.  It's like some people have to tear him down in order to make Darren sound better.  Again, give me DMac, but Smith is nice as well.

Bryan (CHF)

December 30, 2007, 08:38:49 pm #121
Quote from: HoopS on December 30, 2007, 08:29:08 pm
I would certainly take DMac over him.  I think some are overstating the case for Smith because it is all falling on deaf ears.  I don't think he's better than Darren but the general reaction is that he is horrible when compared to Darren and that just isn't true.  He's good.  It's like some people have to tear him down in order to make Darren sound better.  Again, give me DMac, but Smith is nice as well.
I would agree HoopS. I think comparing their stats is really an unfair comparison. I don't think anyone can rationally say running in Conf USA is harder then the SEC. That being said, I won't say that Smith wouldn't run for 1000+ yards in the SEC either. I don't think he would have 2000+ though. There is a reason why NO SEC back has ever run for 2000 yards in the SEC. I would have to take McFadden as well because he is a more total player. Smith runs and that is about it.
Quote from: Doc Holliday
Why Ed does this mean we're not friends anymore? You know Ed, if I thought you weren't my friend... I just don't think I could bear it!

HoopS

December 30, 2007, 08:53:45 pm #122
People who understand mechanics better than I say he's got great hips.  He blocks well on the blitz.  He catches pretty well out of the backfield.  His speed is deceptive, because he is a long strider.  He has some wiggle to him when he needs to, rather than always running over backs. 

On the next level, I believe DMac needs to avoid some of the hits when possible.  We all love how he punishes the D, but in the long run, that is a career shortener.  He needs to be able to carry the ball with both hands.

The analysts who are saying KS will be a better NFL back (which I do not agree with) are factoring in those things.  And they are looking at the carries KS has had and his durability.  He gets around 30-35 carries per game and has remained healthy.  He doesn't have the speed that DMac has, but he'll make some team a nice back. 
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