Alex Collins

[Pig in the Pokey]

I think this is one of the very very few situations where hogville knows something that the professionals don't and that is that someone is going to be getting the steal of the draft by drafting Collins this late.

i mean, we were right about Knile. And right about McFadden, too (that he had to play for ANybody else and he'd get his 1000 yds)

[The Hogfather]

I previously said he was making a mistake and I still stand by it.  He may go undrafted.

Only if you're referencing him not getting his degree and/or more college accolades.  He had nothing else to gain.

[hogcard1964]

Only if you're referencing him not getting his degree and/or more college accolades.  He had nothing else to gain.

True, and he still woudn't have played in the NFL if he stayed his senior year anyway.

[hogman99]

Ryan Leaf, RGIII and countless others said yeah that's right.  NFL guys are always right.  BS.

More right than not. I guess we should soon see HogBreath as an NFL executive, coach or scout in the very near future. I hope I can get your autograph someday.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Only if you're referencing him not getting his degree and/or more college accolades.  He had nothing else to gain.

YES HE DID HE HAS ONLY played 5 years of football in his life. how would 20% more experience not make him better? How would a year of blocking not improve his stock? How would a year proving himself to be a 4 year star not help? This dumb oft-repeated mantra is pure speculation at best and completely ridiculous in reality.

[Ex-Trumpet]

How many teams kicked themselves over Montana and Brady?  Even Tony Romo.

[a0ashle]

Only if you're referencing him not getting his degree and/or more college accolades.  He had nothing else to gain.

Can we just call this objectively false now?

[The Hogfather]

YES HE DID HE HAS ONLY played 5 years of football in his life. how would 20% more experience not make him better? How would a year of blocking not improve his stock? How would a year proving himself to be a 4 year star not help? This dumb oft-repeated mantra is pure speculation at best and completely ridiculous in reality.

His draft stock would've stayed the same and it is a much better RB class next year.  Good move to leave, even if he ends up as an UDFA.  He'll stick and get a big contract 1 year sooner.

[rljjr]

How many teams kicked themselves over Montana and Brady?  Even Tony Romo.

Bingo. It's not a science as much as they would like it to seem. Sometimes these scouts are too smart for their own good.

[The Hogfather]

Can we just call this objectively false now?

Only if you're a dumb.

[DOGALUM]

Tom Brady says hello.

[Ex-Trumpet]

His draft stock would've stayed the same and it is a much better RB class next year.  Good move to leave, even if he ends up as an UDFA.  He'll stick and get a big contract 1 year sooner.

Draft stock remaining the same in a stronger class means you are a better player.  Isn't it everyone's objective to become better and more valuable?

[rzrbackramsfan]

His draft stock would've stayed the same and it is a much better RB class next year.  Good move to leave, even if he ends up as an UDFA.  He'll stick and get a big contract 1 year sooner.

It sure would be worth a try to improve draft stock.  Udfa's rarely make the team.

[Professor Psychosis]

Seattle just picked him at 171.

[SONofHAM]

He's a Seahawk

[jjdlc]

Agree, he's also a very smart and patient runner and allusive and difficult to get a square hit on. All typical characteristics of good nfl backs.

Agreed, I think this is a case where they are getting too hung up on measurable a, and forgetting that some of the best backs in the NFL have been backs that didn't have the best measurables.

[War Boar]

Seahawks got a steal.

[hawginbigd1]

Just thinking this was a spot for him congrats AC

[alohawg]

Great spot for Alex! Now he proves Carroll made a brilliant pick.

[The Hogfather]

Draft stock remaining the same in a stronger class means you are a better player.  Isn't it everyone's objective to become better and more valuable?
[/qoute]

Boom!  Seahawks!  Perfect situation.

[Jborohog09]

Great place for him to go.  Congrats to AC!

[a0ashle]

Great spot, Beast Mode 2.0

[PigTimePlayer]

Great pick by Seahawks...congrats AC! Rooting for him to have a great career.

Seattle is about as far away from his home as you can get in the NFL. Wow.

[RME]

All you guys griping about him being passed over, Collins just landed in the best possible spot he could be in.

[rzrbackramsfan]

The rb class is better at the very top we know that, but we don't know if the running back class is better at 5-11th best running backs.  Ac could've gone from being the 12th rb to like the 5th.


THAT BEING SAID, THERES NO OTHER TEAM I RATHER AC WOULD HAVE GONE TO THEN THE HAWKS!!

[jjdlc]

He's a Seahawk

Good place for him, he can do well there.

[Pig in the Pokey]

Seahawks got a steal.

THIS. worked out for the kid. Woooo Pig!!!

[greenEGnHAWGS]

All you guys griping about him being passed over, Collins just landed in the best possible spot he could be in.

This. 100%. Wonderful opportunity for AC here.

[The Hogfather]

Draft stock remaining the same in a stronger class means you are a better player.  Isn't it everyone's objective to become better and more valuable?

His personal stock would remain the same, but there would be much more talent in the class.  He'd end up going lower and be a year behind in his career.

[Muskliketusk]

Lotta folks just selfish and wanted AC back for the Hogs not what was good for AC. He's gonna light it up in Seattle and hope their little jealous hearts can handle it.

[a0ashle]

Lotta folks just selfish and wanted AC back for the Hogs not what was good for AC. He's gonna light it up in Seattle and hope their little jealous hearts can handle it.

Yeah that's it, Seattle is great for him, but I bet Seattle in third would have been better.

[The Hogfather]

Lotta folks just selfish and wanted AC back for the Hogs not what was good for AC. He's gonna light it up in Seattle and hope their little jealous hearts can handle it.

Yup!

[hawginbigd1]

Lotta folks just selfish and wanted AC back for the Hogs not what was good for AC. He's gonna light it up in Seattle and hope their little jealous hearts can handle it.

Uh no, sure we wanted him back, but do you think Kenneth Dixon is better than AC? Kenneth Dixon is a 6th or 7th round guy last year, his great year, TD records, etc. in season 4 moved him way up IMO!

[greenEGnHAWGS]

I previously said he was making a mistake and I still stand by it.  He may go undrafted.

Hope you're still around when we see just HOW big of a mistake it was.

[The Hogfather]

Uh no, sure we wanted him back, but do you think Kenneth Dixon is better than AC? Kenneth Dixon is a 6th or 7th round guy last year, his great year, TD records, etc. in season 4 moved him way up IMO!

Such BS!

[RazorChuck]

SEA........HAWKS!
OUTSTANDING!

[hawginbigd1]

Such BS!

Like most of your posts! Any thing to substantiate your blabbering, again do you think Dixon is better than AC? Can't prove any of it, but serious dick move to call someone out on it!

[RME]

Like most of your posts! Any thing to substantiate your blabbering, again do you think Dixon is better than AC? Can't prove any of it, but serious dick move to call someone out on it!

I mean, it's obvious that the NFL thinks that Dixon is better than AC, and when it comes to the draft and money, that's really all that matters; what the NFL thinks.

Can Alex prove everyone wrong and have a 10x better career than Dixon? Yeah he can. Can Dixon have a 15x better career than Alex? Yeah he can.

But in terms of the draft and what number pick you are and how much money you'll make, the NFL thinks Dixon is better. And like I said, pertaining to those factors, that's all that matters.

[ricepig]

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/726493397083668481

[hawginbigd1]

I mean, it's obvious that the NFL thinks that Dixon is better than AC, and when it comes to the draft and money, that's really all that matters; what the NFL thinks.

Can Alex prove everyone wrong and have a 10x better career than Dixon? Yeah he can. Can Dixon have a 15x better career than Alex? Yeah he can.

But in terms of the draft and what number pick you are and how much money you'll make, the NFL thinks Dixon is better. And like I said, pertaining to those factors, that's all that matters.

You are right 100 my point is the press and accolades of his career accomplishments pushed the undersized Dixon up the draft board after year 4 and I am of the opinion that an injury free year 4 would have done the same for AC.

[hogcard1964]

Hope you're still around when we see just HOW big of a mistake it was.

+1000

I'll be here and I hope I am wrong. 

[WilsonHog]

Dial the testasterone down a bit, fellas.

[hogcard1964]

Like most of your posts! Any thing to substantiate your blabbering, again do you think Dixon is better than AC? Can't prove any of it, but serious dick move to call someone out on it!

Dixon's not as good as Collins.

[greenEGnHAWGS]

+1000

I'll be here and I hope I am wrong.

Same here.

[hawginbigd1]

Dixon's not as good as Collins.

I concur

[ChitownHawg]

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkwBo/status/726493397083668481

I would like to see that stat coupled with the number of times running between the tackles. Then compare him to the other 5. Hard to make a guy miss in a two foot hole, but AC did it time and again.

[ricepig]

I would like to see that stat coupled with the number of times running between the tackles. Then compare him to the other 5. Hard to make a guy miss in a two foot hole, but did it time and again.

That's what impressed me the most with AC, the guy's he avoided in the backfield, or hole.

[alohawg]

I would like to see that stat coupled with the number of times running between the tackles. Then compare him to the other 5. Hard to make a guy miss in a two foot hole, but did it time and again.

Better than any back in a long time, best since a guy named Barry S..

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

5 [CENSORED] broken tackles in 475 carries!!!!!!! Holy darn

According to Pro Football Focus AC had the third most broken tackles at 58

https://mobile.twitter.com/PFF/status/726494924481384448

[HOGINTENNESSEE]

See now you are seeing third down backs. And Collins can't catch

Collins can't catch? What games were you watching?

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