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Started by Richard Davenport, May 24, 2016, 01:00:29 pm

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Any idea why?  We need to do as many of these camps as we can.
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The_Boot_stops_here

Need to figure out an alternative. Quickly

presidenthog

that was literally the big camp for us.

TM Hog

I don' t like how this makes Arkansas look in Texas.  I'm sure a lot of kids were interested in going now they are hearing that Arkansas cancelled. At least that's going to be the perception.  I'm not privy to all the details on what happened. 

rzrbk4life

Hate to hear that. The more exposure there the better
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BigSexyHog

Why don't we wait for all the details before freaking out
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ricepig

Quote from: BigSexyHog on May 24, 2016, 05:33:10 pm
Why don't we wait for all the details before freaking out

What would we have to talk about?

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rzrbackramsfan

Is this the same a&m commerce that people believe to have cancelled because of political pressure?

 

The_Hog_Father

Quote from: rzrbackramsfan on May 24, 2016, 07:41:40 pm
Is this the same a&m commerce that people believe to have cancelled because of political pressure?

It's the same school that Arkansas was going to partner with at The Dallas Camp.


From one of my favorite posters here on HV:

Quote from: factchecker on May 24, 2016, 06:25:18 pm
Here is MY OPINION on the reasoning:

We have a connection with the AnM Commerce program.  Former Defensive Assistant, Coach Mike Conrad, is now the linebacker coach at AnM Commerce.  We most likely had all the camp specifics planned out until someone threw a fit.

I'm now interested in why AnM Commerce pulled out of Dallas.  Commerce is less than two hours away from ATT Stadium.  Commerce is close to 5 hours away from Houston.

I am really interested in hearing what or who the trouble was with this Camp... I know everybody was excited for this to happen at Jerry World, I know I wanted to happen for the betterment of the Program.

factchecker

http://www.foxsportsarkansas.com/texas-am-commerce-coach-colby-carthel/

This interview was posted 05/13/16.


Commerce's head coach, Coach Carthel, mentions camping with Coach Rhoads in the past as a connection as well.


What happened between 05/13/16 and 05/18/16 (Houston announcement) to cause Commerce to back out of the AT&T deal?
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LRrazorback

Commerce is under the A&M umbrella so I bet A&m at college station nixed this.  Be like ark Monticello doing the same for another school. We need to get tx st since we play them and make it part of the package, if we play you host the camp

31to6

Quote from: LRrazorback on May 24, 2016, 08:42:31 pm
Commerce is under the A&M umbrella so I bet A&m at college station nixed this.  Be like ark Monticello doing the same for another school. We need to get tx st since we play them and make it part of the package, if we play you host the camp
I can *easily* see this being written into the rent-a-win contracts for schools in the right geo.

Lots of non-P5 and FCS schools are in major metro areas.

HogNDas

Yes, let's let the facts surface before we rush to judgment, but the initial appearance of this is not good.  I'm confident there is a reasonable explanation though...

LRrazorback

Another angle-if a&m college station paid commerce to not host then this could get all kinds of messy. NCAA will need to stop these, I feel.

The_Hog_Father

Quote from: HogNDas on May 24, 2016, 09:14:25 pm
Yes, let's let the facts surface before we rush to judgment, but the initial appearance of this is not good.  I'm confident there is a reasonable explanation though...

For whatever reason, the Camp is at Houston now:

Quote from: factchecker on May 24, 2016, 06:14:36 pm
Houston instead:

https://twitter.com/Lions_FB/status/733060114291249157

Hopefully there will be more details forthcoming as to why the Dallas Camp did not happen as originally planned.

But watching people jump the gun and expose their personal bias towards Our Coach, Staffand Program as supposed "Fans" has been quite entertaining. 😂🙌🏻🐗

The_Hog_Father

Quote from: LRrazorback on May 24, 2016, 09:23:45 pm
Another angle-if a&m college station paid commerce to not host then this could get all kinds of messy. NCAA will need to stop these, I feel.

Please stop. The information has been posted above.... Please look at the posts that fact checker provided on A&M Commerce now hosting the Camp in Houston....  ;)

HogNDas

Texas has been an area where we have traditionally recruited well and I attribute it partially to our history with the SWC and our proximity. 
What SEC schools are hosting camps in TX and where?  I really hate to lose any recruiting advantage we might currently have by NOT having a camp in North TX.....

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Quote from: LRrazorback on May 24, 2016, 08:42:31 pm
Commerce is under the A&M umbrella so I bet A&m at college station nixed this.  Be like ark Monticello doing the same for another school. We need to get tx st since we play them and make it part of the package, if we play you host the camp

ricepig

Quote from: Richard Davenport on May 25, 2016, 12:41:08 pm


So, are we doing the camp with them in Houston, and second, why did we pull out with Abilene Christian?

 

Richard Davenport

Quote from: ricepig on May 25, 2016, 12:45:50 pm
So, are we doing the camp with them in Houston, and second, why did we pull out with Abilene Christian?

There will be a camp, but not with a school.

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ricepig

Quote from: Richard Davenport on May 25, 2016, 01:55:16 pm
There will be a camp, but not with a school.

Ok, info you rely on you for, thanks.

azhog10

Wonder if we are doing something with the Texans due to CBBs relationship with JJ Watt???

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Quote from: Richard Davenport on May 25, 2016, 01:55:16 pm
There will be a camp, but not with a school.
so are you saying there will still be a camp at jerry world even though no schools will be sponsoring it?

or that we will still be doing a camp in texas, just not at jerry world?
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azhog10

Quote from: PorkSoda on May 25, 2016, 04:10:26 pm
so are you saying there will still be a camp at jerry world even though no schools will be sponsoring it?

or that we will still be doing a camp in texas, just not at jerry world?
I think he's saying there will be a camp, somewhere (houston or dallas is my guess), and no other University will be involved or that the "host" will not be a school.

BearsBisonsBoars

Quote from: azhog10 on May 25, 2016, 04:26:41 pm
I think he's saying there will be a camp, somewhere (houston or dallas is my guess), and no other University will be involved or that the "host" will not be a school.
Didn't know that was allowed.

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Quote from: BearsBisonsBoars on May 26, 2016, 09:36:49 am
Didn't know that was allowed.

Same here but LSU is partnering with the New Orleans Saints:

https://twitter.com/Operation2Dat/status/731185388488777728

I think there still might clearance problems due to Cowboys stadium being out of state.

We will see.
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LSU is holding a camp in Dallas and Houston. I certainly
Hope Bielema is working on making something happen cause right now it looks like we just rolled over and let A&M run us out of Texas.

The_Hog_Father

Quote from: LRHawg on May 31, 2016, 11:31:49 pm
LSU is holding a camp in Dallas and Houston. I certainly
Hope Bielema is working on making something happen cause right now it looks like we just rolled over and let A&M run us out of Texas.

The Hogs are holding a camp in Houston, Detroit, Tampa and more according to his presser with the Media today. Though a Dallas Camp is on the backburner... So, do the Coaches need to figure things out and approach this better? Yes, there is always room for improvement and yes there are some difficulties but I would not say that CBB rolled over and let A&M run the Hogs out of Texas.

But hey man... I wanted to see that camp go down at Jerry World too... Hopefully it will happen next year if the whole process is not banned.

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Quote from: LRHawg on May 31, 2016, 11:31:49 pm
LSU is holding a camp in Dallas and Houston. I certainly
Hope Bielema is working on making something happen cause right now it looks like we just rolled over and let A&M run us out of Texas.

Here is the current camp list---

UPDATED CAMP LIST:


Satellite Camps

https://twitter.com/Panther_FB/status/730355174070329344

https://twitter.com/CoachPartridge/status/730138880339542016

https://twitter.com/SMSBFootball/status/734537523884658689



https://twitter.com/MCAOFGA/status/735840254427561988

*I'm guessing we will be sending half of our coaches to Detroit for the SMSB Academy and half to Georgia for the MCAOFGA Academy on June 9th and 10th -or- spend one day at one camp and one at the other.


Non-Satellite Camps

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/690271847053590528

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/705827601885982720

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/719999199928918016

Razorback Chronological Camp List

June 3-4             Atlanta, Georgia                  SMSB Academy
June 5th             Little Rock, Arkansas           All-Arkansas Camp
June 6th-7th       Houston, Texas                   SMSB Academy
June 8th             Fayetteville, Arkansas          Junior High Camp
June 9th-10th     Detroit, Michigan                 SMSB Academy
June 9th-10th     Stockbridge, Georgia           MCAOFGA Academy
June 12th           Tampa, Florida                    SMSB Academy
June 13th           Boca Raton, Florida              FAU Camp
June 15th           Fayetteville, Arkansas           Youth Camp
June 18th           Fayetteville, Arkansas           Specialist Camp
June 19th-21st    Fayetteville, Arkansas           Senior High Camp
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HogNDas

Quote from: factchecker on June 01, 2016, 12:06:13 am
Here is the current camp list---

UPDATED CAMP LIST:


Satellite Camps

https://twitter.com/Panther_FB/status/730355174070329344

https://twitter.com/CoachPartridge/status/730138880339542016

https://twitter.com/SMSBFootball/status/734537523884658689



https://twitter.com/MCAOFGA/status/735840254427561988

*I'm guessing we will be sending half of our coaches to Detroit for the SMSB Academy and half to Georgia for the MCAOFGA Academy on June 9th and 10th -or- spend one day at one camp and one at the other.


Non-Satellite Camps

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/690271847053590528

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/705827601885982720

https://twitter.com/ArkansasFBcamps/status/719999199928918016

Razorback Chronological Camp List

June 3-4             Atlanta, Georgia                  SMSB Academy
June 5th             Little Rock, Arkansas           All-Arkansas Camp
June 6th-7th       Houston, Texas                   SMSB Academy
June 8th             Fayetteville, Arkansas          Junior High Camp
June 9th-10th     Detroit, Michigan                 SMSB Academy
June 9th-10th     Stockbridge, Georgia           MCAOFGA Academy
June 12th           Tampa, Florida                    SMSB Academy
June 13th           Boca Raton, Florida              FAU Camp
June 15th           Fayetteville, Arkansas           Youth Camp
June 18th           Fayetteville, Arkansas           Specialist Camp
June 19th-21st    Fayetteville, Arkansas           Senior High Camp

GREAT!.... I feel better now...Thanks FactChecker!!!

LRHawg

Quote from: Pigs in Zen on May 31, 2016, 11:57:09 pm
The Hogs are holding a camp in Houston, Detroit, Tampa and more according to his presser with the Media today. Though a Dallas Camp is on the backburner... So, do the Coaches need to figure things out and approach this better? Yes, there is always room for improvement and yes there are some difficulties but I would not say that CBB rolled over and let A&M run the Hogs out of Texas.

But hey man... I wanted to see that camp go down at Jerry World too... Hopefully it will happen next year if the whole process is not banned.

I do feel better now that I know we're at least still holding one in Houston. I hope we can get back into Jerry World though. I was super excited about that one and think it holds the most promise considering the metro and our history there.

BoynamedWooPigSooie

I don't understand why there's not another school that can take up the reigns on the Jerryworld camp.

There's plenty available in N. Texas.
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Quote from: BoynamedWooPigSooie on June 01, 2016, 11:56:18 am
I don't understand why there's not another school that can take up the reigns on the Jerryworld camp.

There's plenty available in N. Texas.
I don't think any other school is having a camp at Jerryworld just in Dallas.