This Just In

[missippihog]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

[dmac_iz_kin]

Stan Heath has accomplished just as much as Houston Nutt - nothing.
10-4 (71% winning percentage) great, where is our trophy for this great season.

Nutt and Heath are both chronic underacheivers however, Nutt is 2 games over 500 in the sec for his career, and Heath i'm sure is way under it. Nutt has managed to fill his arena (so far), while Heaths attendance is dwindling.

[razorhead94]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

[missippihog]

In FB we went to the Capital One Bowl which is the best bowl outside the BCS, this means the 5th best bowl right? That would be equal to at least the sweet 16 round in BB. We don't even have a "real" chance to make it to the tourney now.

Like I said earlier....4-7 and 5-6....I guess you were content with this?  Why should he have got to keep his job through that?

I didn't say he should have, fact is he did though. You can't fire him now after a good season. Wait until next year and if we suck, can him.

[BartIV]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

[razorhead94]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

Woooowwww. a cotton bowl win and a INDEPENDENCE BOWL WIN!!!! Now, how many BCS wins and Championships? This should be good.

Still more than Stan has ever done...thats my point

[PigPusher]

Just heard that Stan Heath WILL BE FIRED the day the team gets back from the SEC Tournament. This is coming from a reliable source who works close to the team. Please don't delete this post because it is not a rumor it is a fact that was told to a reporter for a NW Arkansas paper.

Hope you are having fun with your garbage.

[missippihog]

I just don't understand why we cant have a decent discussion of any topic on here without some "insert adjective here" bringing up HDN.

[phoggy]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

1/3 =1/3 congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

[weresoclose]

Who cares about the HDN/Heath thing if it's a done deal!

Mods, has this been confirmed yet?

[BartIV]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

Should USC be able to throw down 70 points and 50 points in football against us, or is this acceptable.

[allyoucaneatbuffet]

Why wait?

To give Stan a little dignity.  He's a really nice guy, just out of his league in the SEC.  This season is a wash anyway.

And what if he wins the SEC Tourney? What if goes to the NCAA and wins two more? It is an interesting predicament. Do we fire now or later?

I don't think we'll win the SEC tourney, especially if he's been told he is gone after the season.  But if we do win the tourney, it would be an interesting predicament.

Mike Davis, Indiana. 

was out of the NCAA picture, MADE the ncaas, already announced the firing.

team WON a game and it was all emotional for him in the tourney but still fired after the round of 32

[missippihog]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

[RhodeHog]

I just don't understand why we cant have a decent discussion of any topic on here without some "insert adjective here" bringing up HDN.

The fact is most of us dislike Nutt.  Nothing anyone can say or do will ever change our mind...and no, we can never let it go. 

With that being said, I do understand your point about this thread being hijacked into a discussion about Nutt.

[RhodeHog]

Who cares about the HDN/Heath thing if it's a done deal!

Mods, has this been confirmed yet?

It would be in Vents and Rumors already if it hasn't been confirmed.

[missippihog]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

1/3 =1/3 congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

So the SECW is just as tough in BB as it is in FB. Go tell that to the NCAA selection committed, Please!

[BartIV]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

[razorbacks1usa]

WELCOME BILL SELF ABOARD

[phoggy]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

1/3 =1/3 congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

So the SECW is just as tough in BB as it is in FB. Go tell that to the NCAA selection committed, Please!

I'm not familiar with the "selection committed".

[The_Bionic_Pig]

If you haven't done so, you need to confirm your source with an Admin immediately.

I have heard the same thing but didn't want to put that out their without a link/proof, but the guy is not at all making this up.

[RhodeHog]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

FWIW, I don't disagree with you.  I'm not sure it's accurate, but I don't disagree with you.

[missippihog]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

It is always about race to some people. Obviously you are one of these regardless of what color you are.

[razorhead94]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

Should USC be able to throw down 70 points and 50 points in football against us, or is this acceptable.

Stan would have played a Zone defense and lost by 100 because he can't coach.

[missippihog]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

1/3 =1/3 congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

So the SECW is just as tough in BB as it is in FB. Go tell that to the NCAA selection committed, Please!

I'm not familiar with the "selection committed".

This is a good thing because they would laugh if you tried to convince them that perinneal powers Ole Miss and MS State are leading the SECW but it is a tough division.

[beachhog]

I think that when the coin is flipped, UA is a basketball school more than a football school.  That being said, more emphasis is on the basketball team finishing better than football.  I have been a fan of UA a long time and the football team has never been in the same spotlight as basketball.  I do think Nutt deserves to be fired and he will, I also thank Nutt thanks his lucky stars that Heath is on the hot seat and that basketball is still the major priority.

That is just my opinion.

By the way, todays game was pathetic.
No way Lofton scores at will and no way McCurdy should have guarded him any during the game.  Poor coaching was evident.

[BartIV]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

Should USC be able to throw down 70 points and 50 points in football against us, or is this acceptable.

Stan would have played a Zone defense and lost by 100 because he can't coach.

Houston Nutt can't coach either, there is the comparison i was looking for.

[cubbie]

We are a track school. Enough said.

[BartIV]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

It is always about race to some people. Obviously you are one of these regardless of what color you are.

I thought you said you were done discussing with me. You must have come out of the box and into reality for a bit.

[missippihog]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

If you honestly believe that the PTB sit around and say we aren't going to fire this guy because he is white and we are going to fire this guy because he is black, well then I really can't help you anymore.

[RhodeHog]

And why was McCurdy throwing in the ball?  There was always a guy on him much taller trying to obstruct his view.  Don't most coaches have taller guys throw in the ball from the out of bounds???

[Lanny]

Who cares about the HDN/Heath thing if it's a done deal!

Mods, has this been confirmed yet?

I'll be surprised if this is not Heath's last ride.

[razorhead94]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

Should USC be able to throw down 70 points and 50 points in football against us, or is this acceptable.

Stan would have played a Zone defense and lost by 100 because he can't coach.

Houston Nutt can't coach either, there is the comparison i was looking for.

Ok. i'll agree with you there...but you can't say you can't fire stan before nutt....stan has done ABSOLUTELY nothing

[razorhead94]

I think that when the coin is flipped, UA is a basketball school more than a football school.  That being said, more emphasis is on the basketball team finishing better than football.  I have been a fan of UA a long time and the football team has never been in the same spotlight as basketball.  I do think Nutt deserves to be fired and he will, I also thank Nutt thanks his lucky stars that Heath is on the hot seat and that basketball is still the major priority.

That is just my opinion.

By the way, todays game was pathetic.
No way Lofton scores at will and no way McCurdy should have guarded him any during the game.  Poor coaching was evident.

Yes, you are right on!

[Pignominious]

And why was McCurdy throwing in the ball?  There was always a guy on him much taller trying to obstruct his view.  Don't most coaches have taller guys throw in the ball from the out of bounds???

Who knows.  I think Heath used like 4 different trigger men today.

[BartIV]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

If you honestly believe that the PTB sit around and say we aren't going to fire this guy because he is white and we are going to fire this guy because he is black, well then I really can't help you anymore.

I am saying they will fire a black guy faster than they would a white guy. Its the good 'ole boy system of doing things. I am sorry for my comments before and i do apologize for them.

[Fletch]

If you haven't done so, you need to confirm your source with an Admin immediately.

I have heard the same thing but didn't want to put that out their without a link/proof, but the guy is not at all making this up.

I have also heard the same thing, and it too came from a reporter in NW Arkansas.

[missippihog]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

If you honestly believe that the PTB sit around and say we aren't going to fire this guy because he is white and we are going to fire this guy because he is black, well then I really can't help you anymore.

I am saying they will fire a black guy faster than they would a white guy. Its the good 'ole boy system of doing things. I am sorry for my comments before and i do apologize for them.

I don't take anything personally so don't worry about that. I just don't buy into your theory. We will have to agred to disagree. Have a great day.

[JustoHogFan]

If you fire Stan Heath and not Nutt, say what you want, this will turn into a Nolan Richardson trial, and rightly so. If Houston Nutt were african american, his @$$ would have been fired on the 5-6 season or 4-7 season.

This tells me all I need to know about you. Nevermind, just continue on. I am done discussing this with you.

Just a little too real for you. It might not hurt you to come out of the box sometime.
I am a white male so this is what i believe.

It is always about race to some people. Obviously you are one of these regardless of what color you are.

It is not all about race but if Houston Nutt was Black I can guarantee that he would NEVER befriended Frank Broyles and been embraced by Frank the way houston has... That is a fact proven by the "Good Ole Boy" system whether its acceptable or liked or not 

[HawgG]

My god mississippihog was gathering so many quotes necessary

[phoggy]

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

Fire Stan and Nutt at same time, then there is no controversy. If they fire Stan and Not Nutt, say what you want, it will be a nolan Richardson trial all over again, as it should.

No, it won't. There is a simple equation here.

Lawsuit = End of coaching career. 

Heath is not going to sue the university. There is no case.  He has no hardware and there is no specific example that he was racially discriminated.  Besides Heath can't even chew out a ref, how is this guy going to sue a major university?

Firing a black man who has had winning seasons every year.
Keeping a white man who has had losing seasons and has nothing but a 10-4 season to stand on.

A winning season is nowhere near the same or as hard to accomplish in basketball as it is in FB.

BS

Really. How many SEC teams will have a winning record in BB this year vs FB last year?

When does the BB season end? I'll know the answer to your question that afternoon.

Make a guesstimate. Not hard to figure out.

then why are you askin'?

3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=FB winning season. 1/3 SEC wins and take care of directional schools=BB winning season.

So which is harder to accomplish. Congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

1/3 =1/3 congratulations, you just defeated your own argument.

So the SECW is just as tough in BB as it is in FB. Go tell that to the NCAA selection committed, Please!

I'm not familiar with the "selection committed".

This is a good thing because they would laugh if you tried to convince them that perinneal powers Ole Miss and MS State are leading the SECW but it is a tough division.

As would you for thinking a football game is harder to win than a basketball game.

Damn that selection committed anyway.

[missippihog]

K

My god mississippihog was gathering so many quotes necessary

Relying on the quote button too much I guess. Sorry.

[missippihog]

Nevermind Phoggy, nevermind. Pointless to argue with some people.

[phoggy]

Nevermind Phoggy, nevermind. Pointless to argue with some people.

That's the one thing we can agree on.

[BartIV]

mississippihog,

+1

[weresoclose]

Who cares about the HDN/Heath thing if it's a done deal!

Mods, has this been confirmed yet?

I'll be surprised if this is not Heath's last ride.

Me too hsv, and I can read between the lines.  Just wondering about the timing of the firing.

[towneofbeverlyhills]

unless this poster has a source it is rumor....please put this in the trash can...we can't let hogville be held on a  double standard....

[missippihog]

mississippihog,

+1

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You guys have to stop with the positive Karma. You are ruining my rep.

[pigfeet]

Who cares about the HDN/Heath thing if it's a done deal!

Mods, has this been confirmed yet?

Rumor...send to trash can. J/K

He needs to go, I wish he could have done better here at Arkansas.

I'll be surprised if this is not Heath's last ride.

[missippihog]

unless this poster has a source it is rumor....please put this in the trash can...we can't let hogville be held on a  double standard....

Undoubtedly he has a source or the owner of the board wouldn't have posted in the thread in this forum.

[BartIV]

What has Houston Nutt won?
What has Stan Heath won?

Houston-  SEC coach of the year
           -  2 time SEC west champion
           - Cotton Bowl win
           - Independence bowl win
           
Stan - 1 NCAA tournament appearance (0-1)
        - no SEC west titles
        - no coach of the year honors

With all that said Houston should have more bowl wins and SEC champsionship....but Stan has NOTHING

You forgot to list all of the embarrassing minor bowl losses and losing the last 3 games 7 of the last 9 years; and you forgot to list the steady improvement by Stan until this year. 

Well if you would read i said houston should have more bowl wins.  I'm not even going to list all of stan's EMBARASSING losses during the season...ok, i'll just name this years' (Miss st, ole miss, auburn, georgia, south car, LSU has only 1 win last 10 games and beat who??)  Its just sad when you have more talent than your opponent and get beat..its frustrating.  Basketball has a lot more expectation than football; however, we should strive to be the best at both.  Potentially i think we can get there in basketball easier.

Should USC be able to throw down 70 points and 50 points in football against us, or is this acceptable.

Stan would have played a Zone defense and lost by 100 because he can't coach.

Houston Nutt can't coach either, there is the comparison i was looking for.

Ok. i'll agree with you there...but you can't say you can't fire stan before nutt....stan has done ABSOLUTELY nothing

Good ole boy system requires you to fire Stan Heath before Houston Nutt.