College Football's Easiest to Toughest Recruiting Job 1-65

[RazorPiggie]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14312923/college-football-easiest-toughest-recruiting-jobs-1-65

[hawgmasta]

Can't argue with that; especially since we usually do fall around 25 in most recruiting rankings. I like how ole miss is only one spot ahead of us despite being in a much more fertile recruiting area, oh yeah and lots of 100$ handshakes.

[HogFansReunited]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/14312923/college-football-easiest-toughest-recruiting-jobs-1-65

Good find.  I honestly thought we would be a little lower than 25th though, I would think around 30th.

[RazorPiggie]

Good find.  I honestly thought we would be a little lower than 25th though, I would think around 30th.

I honestly thought we would have too. I guess they have just taken the class rankings over the last 5-10 years and came up with the rankings that way.

[opineonswine]

Good find.  I honestly thought we would be a little lower than 25th though, I would think around 30th.

9th in SEC....about what you would expect.  That should be recognized when evaluating the coaching job.

[Oklahawg]

9th in SEC....about what you would expect.  That should be recognized when evaluating the coaching job.

Frank was right?

[bigdaddyhawg]

Florida should be #1 on the list.

Urban Meyer said one time he could have a top 5 class year in and year out and never go more than 2 hours from his campus.

[opineonswine]

Frank was right?

I started to say that.   
Where I differ from what he said, is that a good coach can somewhat overcome the disadvantage. 

[Hogarusa]

I would think that since there are 8 SEC schools in front of us that our rankings should be much lower.  That makes it a real unique situation for the Hogs over all schools.  The state is certainly last in the SEC for players that come to the conference.

[rzrbackrob]

Wisconsin #37

[HognitiveDissonance]

Frank was right?

Frank was always right. 90% of the time, anyway.

[DeltaBoy]

Frank was always right. 90% of the time, anyway.

Yep even as meddlesome as he was He made the Right move to the SEC!

[Hoggish1]

Lots of BS to see there.  But as for No. 24, without $ they would never get the players they've been getting to Johnny Rebville...

[Piglet Dispersion Syndrome]

Spreading the insider love here...Merry Christmas...


9. Arkansas Razorbacks: 18 out of 25

Favorable geography/local recruiting territory: 2 -- Since 2013, there have been a total of 10 recruits from Arkansas in the ESPN 300.

Recruiting/football budget: 5 -- $615k according to the most recent data, which is for the most part equal with other SEC programs.

Facilities to attract recruits: 4 -- Arkansas has solid facilities that are on par with pretty much the rest of the SEC.

Next-level considerations: 5 -- The Razorbacks have had 21 players selected in the NFL draft since 2010.

Other intangibles: 3 -- Arkansas joined the SEC in 1990, and while the Razorbacks have played in the SEC championship game twice (2002, 2006) and have more or less been a fixture of bowl season, they have never won the conference title. A lack of a consistent, winning tradition can play a role on the recruiting trail.

[Piglet Dispersion Syndrome]

Interesting mentions regarding players drafted to NFL from SEC since 2010:

Arkansas: 20
Alabama: 44
Auburn: 12
Florida: 27
Georgia: 33
Missouri: 16
Kentucky: 10
LSU: 39
Miss St: 18
Ole Miss: 8
S. Carolina: 22
Tennessee: 16
Texas A&M: 16
Vanderbilt: 9

Can't hardly believe how low Auburn and Ole Miss are. Ole Miss should have 4 more this year, but that's still pretty low. S. Carolina with a good showing as well.

[RazorPiggie]

Interesting mentions regarding players drafted to NFL from SEC since 2010:

Arkansas: 20
Alabama: 44
Auburn: 12
Florida: 27
Georgia: 33
Missouri: 16
Kentucky: 10
LSU: 39
Miss St: 18
Ole Miss: 8
S. Carolina: 22
Tennessee: 16
Texas A&M: 16
Vanderbilt: 9

Can't hardly believe how low Auburn and Ole Miss are. Ole Miss should have 4 more this year, but that's still pretty low. S. Carolina with a good showing as well.

Need to show that to recruits when it comes down to us, Ole Miss, aTm, & Auburn.

[hogcard1964]

interesting

37. Wisconsin Badgers

The Badgers have a strong tradition to sell recruits and have seen 21 players drafted in the NFL since 2011, but they spend the least money in the Big Ten on recruiting, according to the most recent data, and that has been a problem for a couple of recent ex-coaches.

[HotlantaHog]

25th seems about right.

It is worth pointing out that these rankings are ever changing. So that if Arkansas were to establish a better winning tradition and send more players to the NFL, for example, its appeal to top recruits would increase. So while Arkansas ranks low for some reasons that won't change -- a small state with not a lot of elite kids every year -- lots of other things could change... It is not the case that Arkansas is destined to be around 25th in the recruiting rankings forever and that is unchangeable.

Of the playoff teams:
                6. Alabama
               10. Oklahoma
               13. Clemson
               23. Michigan State

So there is some obvious correlation with being a good place to recruit and winning, though it is a pretty loose link.

[wildturkey8]

I wonder if a couple of conference championships can change that perception?

[DukeOfPork]

Frank was right?

We didn't want to hear it, but Frank was just speaking the truth.

[NaturalStateReb]

Florida should be #1 on the list.

Urban Meyer said one time he could have a top 5 class year in and year out and never go more than 2 hours from his campus.

I never realized the Florida State Penitentiary was so close to Gainesville.

[NaturalStateReb]

Interesting mentions regarding players drafted to NFL from SEC since 2010:

Arkansas: 20
Alabama: 44
Auburn: 12
Florida: 27
Georgia: 33
Missouri: 16
Kentucky: 10
LSU: 39
Miss St: 18
Ole Miss: 8
S. Carolina: 22
Tennessee: 16
Texas A&M: 16
Vanderbilt: 9

Can't hardly believe how low Auburn and Ole Miss are. Ole Miss should have 4 more this year, but that's still pretty low. S. Carolina with a good showing as well.

We had a couple of years of nuclear winter under the Dale, and then most of Freeze's teams have had large numbers of underclassmen.  I'm not shocked.

[WJBilly]

Did anyone else notice this about Tennessee?
will spend the money it takes to bring in elite-level prospects.

[Atlhogfan1]

Did anyone else notice this about Tennessee?
will spend the money it takes to bring in elite-level prospects.

Their recruiting budgets have been some of the highest for decades because they have to go out of state and region so much. 

Spreading the insider love here...Merry Christmas...


9. Arkansas Razorbacks: 18 out of 25

Favorable geography/local recruiting territory: 2 -- Since 2013, there have been a total of 10 recruits from Arkansas in the ESPN 300.

Recruiting/football budget: 5 -- $615k according to the most recent data, which is for the most part equal with other SEC programs.

Facilities to attract recruits: 4 -- Arkansas has solid facilities that are on par with pretty much the rest of the SEC.

Next-level considerations: 5 -- The Razorbacks have had 21 players selected in the NFL draft since 2010.

Other intangibles: 3 -- Arkansas joined the SEC in 1990, and while the Razorbacks have played in the SEC championship game twice (2002, 2006) and have more or less been a fixture of bowl season, they have never won the conference title. A lack of a consistent, winning tradition can play a role on the recruiting trail.

3 trips to the SECG- 95

[WJBilly]

Their recruiting budgets have been some of the highest for decades because they have to go out of state and region so much.       


I was thinking 100 dollar handshakes.

[Atlhogfan1]

Their recruiting budgets have been some of the highest for decades because they have to go out of state and region so much.       


I was thinking 100 dollar handshakes.

I know.  Tee Martin.

AU and OM are the ones we have to be concerned about right now.

Ok St should have gotten some bonus points for Gundy's negative recruiting. 

[NuttinItUp]

Of the playoff teams:
                6. Alabama
               10. Oklahoma
               13. Clemson
               23. Michigan State

Hey, if Michigan State can do it, so can we!

[DukeOfPork]

Hey, if Michigan State can do it, so can we!

If Michigan State played our schedule, they would certainly be ranked higher than we are, but they would have at least a couple losses and wouldn't even get a whiff of the playoff.

[Atlhogfan1]

25th seems about right.

It is worth pointing out that these rankings are ever changing. So that if Arkansas were to establish a better winning tradition and send more players to the NFL, for example, its appeal to top recruits would increase. So while Arkansas ranks low for some reasons that won't change -- a small state with not a lot of elite kids every year -- lots of other things could change... It is not the case that Arkansas is destined to be around 25th in the recruiting rankings forever and that is unchangeable.

Of the playoff teams:
                6. Alabama
               10. Oklahoma
               13. Clemson
               23. Michigan State

So there is some obvious correlation with being a good place to recruit and winning, though it is a pretty loose link.

Bama - 3rd in SEC
OU - 2nd in Big 12
Clem - 2nd in ACC
Mich St - 4th in B1G

[Atlhogfan1]

To put our world in perspective:

The SEC:
1 - why I have long said most underachieving program in college football, Texas is up there too but VY at least got them one NC, Clem has been up there too
5
6
7
11
12
16
24
25

B1G
2
9
18
23

Big 12
3
10
21
22
26

Pac 12
4
15
19
20

ACC
8
13
14 ND
17


The SEC with more than twice the teams as the other power conferences in the top 25 of this ranking. 

[Atlhogfan1]

Can break this down a lot of ways but it all comes out that life in the SEC is much tougher in terms of recruiting competition and the elite programs have less of an advantage as they do in other conferences.

SEC has 12 of 14 teams in the top 40

B1G 7 of 14

Big 12   6 of 10

Pac 12   7 of 12

ACC  8 of 14 if you give them ND with UVa at 40th


50 and up

SEC has 2 programs

B1G has 5 programs

Big 12 has 2

Pac 12 has 3

ACC has 4



Ranked 40-49

SEC 0

B1G 2

Big 12 2

Pac 12 2

ACC 4


Ranked 26-39

SEC 3

B1G 3

Big 12 2

Pac 12 3

ACC  3

[ChicoHog]

If Michigan State played our schedule, they would certainly be ranked higher than we are, but they would have at least a couple losses and wouldn't even get a whiff of the playoff.

I would disagree with you there.  The did not play Bama ( they will in a couple of weeks!) but beat Ohio st, Michigan, Iowa and Oregon all of whom I say are equal to any other team we played or at least very close.