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ballinhog

Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?

Pickled Pig

Quote from: ballinhog on March 01, 2008, 11:17:07 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?

I'm a 38 year old who had never really felt that old....until I read this post and question.

Thanks a lot.

 

ballinhog

Quote from: Pickled Pig on March 01, 2008, 11:19:46 pm
I'm a 38 year old who had never really felt that old....until I read this post and question.

Thanks a lot.

Lol sorry...beer makes me feel younger

cowboym

Cannon Whitby was in Nolan Richardsons first recruiting class that included Ron Huery.  He could shoot the 3 but was pretty slow and not that tall.  Huery was a good player but had some off the court problems.  He eventually played pretty well as a senior.  Whitby never played up to his potential ? in college.  If you remember Pat Bradley just think of Cannon Whitby as a slower and shorter Pat Bradley that couldn't shoot as well LOL
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ark30inf

Cannon was....well.....a cannon.  Brought some fun to a rebuilding era.

wooly

Quote from: cowboym on March 01, 2008, 11:32:02 pm
Cannon Whitby was in Nolan Richardsons first recruiting class that included Ron Huery.  He could shoot the 3 but was pretty slow and not that tall.  Huery was a good player but had some off the court problems.  He eventually played pretty well as a senior.  Whitby never played up to his potential ? in college.  If you remember Pat Bradley just think of Cannon Whitby as a slower and shorter Pat Bradley that couldn't shoot as well LOL


was huery not SWC freshmen of the year?

upperdeck_hawg

Quote from: ballinhog on March 01, 2008, 11:17:07 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?

you're probably hearing a lot of cannon whitby references because a lot of people seem to think rotnei clark may be a whitby clone. they both played for a lower classification in high school. they're both around 6 feet, white and not the most atheletic guys in the world. they both set all kinds of scoring records. whitby never sniffed any serious playing time and was a bust. we'll see how rotnei turns out.
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Hums

Does anybody remember the game he had against Ark St in the NIT, it saved Nolans job at the time. It was Nolans 2nd year here and we got paired up with A St, and had to come from way behind to force OT where we won the game.

hawgjawls

Quote from: Hums on March 02, 2008, 12:05:04 pm
Does anybody remember the game he had against Ark St in the NIT, it saved Nolans job at the time. It was Nolans 2nd year here and we got paired up with A St, and had to come from way behind to force OT where we won the game.
yeah, because Phillip McKellar who transfered to AState was lighting us up!

Wild Bill Hog

Quote from: Hums on March 02, 2008, 12:05:04 pm
Does anybody remember the game he had against Ark St in the NIT, it saved Nolans job at the time. It was Nolans 2nd year here and we got paired up with A St, and had to come from way behind to force OT where we won the game.

How far out were his shots from?  I remember he stopped way back of the 3 point line.  The ASU guy wouldn't come out on him and Whitby looked at him, shrugged his shoulders, sort of shook his head, and drained the shots.  He forced the OT and the Hogs won pulling away.

Boarcephus

Cannon was from Obion County, TN and was Mr. Basketball for his classification his senior year.  Averaged around 40 a game in highschool.  As cowboym said, was in Nolans first recruiting class and was definitely hyped as an all-world scoring machine.  Trouble was when he got to Arkansas, the competition got salty in a hurry.  He went up against bigger, faster, stronger, more athletic players and his career never lived up to the billing. 

Upperdeck-hawg has pegged it pretty good...both have similar success in lower division highschool ball, both white, both around 6 foot tall, not overly athletic.  Cannon's career was less than remarkable and that's the reason for some peoples doubts on how good Clark will be.
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Pigonometry

He could catch and shoot --- that was about it. 

And this question made me feel old too.............. 
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hogtheball

Quote from: Boarcephus on March 02, 2008, 03:07:49 pm
Cannon was from Obion County, TN and was Mr. Basketball for his classification his senior year.  Averaged around 40 a game in highschool.  As cowboym said, was in Nolans first recruiting class and was definitely hyped as an all-world scoring machine.  Trouble was when he got to Arkansas, the competition got salty in a hurry.  He went up against bigger, faster, stronger, more athletic players and his career never lived up to the billing. 

Upperdeck-hawg has pegged it pretty good...both have similar success in lower division highschool ball, both white, both around 6 foot tall, not overly athletic.  Cannon's career was less than remarkable and that's the reason for some peoples doubts on how good Clark will be.

Cannon would have faired a lot better on Nolan's later teams.  When Whitby played - Nolan was running 40 minutes of pressing D - not exactly Whitby's forte.  Also, there were very few set plays on offense that allowed for perimeter screens.  Later (like when we won the championship in '94), Nolan's game plan had settled down A LOT.  we were only pressing for half a game, and the half court offense allowed for a lot more screens (i.e. the slowest defender in UA history - Scotty Thurman - was able to flourish). 

Whitby was a good shooter and always played his best when given a chance.  I always wonder why we don't list all of the 6'7" "big city" busts throughout Razorback history whenever we recruit another one of those. 
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I remember him being a really good free throw shooter.
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Anyone Remember who was the other guy that played with reid, hood, davis , and bradley? he was about 5'10, white with short hair. Great shooter but never got many minutes.  the name jason gilbert just popped in my head when i was typing. Was that his name? Thanks
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Wasn't Whitby the one who made the long range last second shot to beat ASU in the NIT('87 I believe)?  It was in Nolan's second year, and I still believe that had we lost that game to ASU in Barnhill JFB would have fired Nolan.  IMO, that shot saved Richardson's job.....and I believe it was Whitby who hit it.

Pigonometry

Quote from: Hums on March 02, 2008, 12:05:04 pm
Does anybody remember the game he had against Ark St in the NIT, it saved Nolans job at the time. It was Nolans 2nd year here and we got paired up with A St, and had to come from way behind to force OT where we won the game.

Yep!  I was there.  What a miracle comeback!
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Pigonometry

Quote from: hawgjawls on March 02, 2008, 12:39:16 pm
yeah, because Phillip McKellar who transfered to AState was lighting us up!

McKellar was a Hog that year and did not transfer unitl later. That was my freshman year at the U of A and McKellar was a Hog that season.
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DizzyHawgFan

Yeah McKellar was a Hog that year.  I have the video tape.  I know I shouldn't say it here, but I was cheering for ASU that game.  Of course it was one of ASU's greatest teams and one of UA's worst, but still as a teenager it was just exciting as heck to me to see David beating Goliath. 

Back to Cannon Whitby, me and my friends in high school used to pull our socks up to our knees and mimic his shooting style, just being goofy though, not like we idolized him.  I saw his little brother play in high school at a tourny in Jonesboro and he could light it up too.  He seemed bigger, was pretty cocky, and was a threat to shoot as soon as he crossed the half. 

Pancetta

When I think of great Arkansas streak shooters I think of Al Dillard.  He was second in 3pt attempts and 3pt fg in that 94-95 runner up season yet he only averaged 12.5 minutes per game.  If he was hot he would shoot from the Hog's snout with no hesitation. 
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Nah. Every single transfer can score. The shots will come once the pecking order gets sorted out.
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Overall Record: 30-5 (NCAA Final Four)
Conference Record: 14-2
Home/Away Record: 15-1 home, 8-3 away

Player          G GS  MIN  Avg   FG  FGA    Pct  3P 3PA    Pct  FT FTA    Pct
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Day, T         35 34 1008 28.8  237  483  0.491  71 176  0.403 139 183  0.760
Mayberry, L    35 35 1131 32.3  193  381  0.507  65 129  0.504  57  72  0.792
Howell, L      34 29  812 23.9  182  335  0.543   5  12  0.417 105 137  0.766
Miller, O      35 13  757 21.6  152  238  0.639   0   4  0.000  86 132  0.652
Huery, R       33  6  678 20.5  119  257  0.463  17  52  0.327  74  94  0.787
Credit, M      33 26  621 18.8  106  185  0.573   0   0  0.000  98 126  0.778
Bowers, A      35 25  736 21.0   63  165  0.382  11  34  0.324  54  68  0.794
Hawkins, D     35  1  362 10.3   59  111  0.532   1   2  0.500  24  32  0.750
Murry, E       34  1  381 11.2   48  118  0.407  20  59  0.339  21  35  0.600
Marks, L       30  4  251  8.4   46   83  0.554   0   0  0.000  20  45  0.444
Whitby, C      23  1  114  5.0    9   40  0.225   6  28  0.000   7   8  0.875
Linn, W        20  0   74  3.7    4   17  0.235   1   4  0.000   1   2  0.500
Fletcher, C     4  0   37  9.3    5   10  0.500   0   0  0.000   2   2  1.000
Hogue, M        5  0   47  9.4    6   12  0.500   0   0  0.000   2   5  0.400
Davis, S        3  0   16  5.3    0    5  0.000   0   0  0.000   0   1  0.000
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Arkansas       35    7025      1229 2440  0.504 197 500  0.394 690 942  0.732
Opponents      35    7025      1016 2252  0.451 190 472  0.403 570 807  0.706

Player          REB   Avg   PF  AST   TO  BLK  STL  PTS   Avg
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Day, T          188   5.4   93   89   83   33   82  684  19.5
Mayberry, L     100   2.9   63  183   59    7   66  508  14.5
Howell, L       183   5.4   81   64   55   10   34  474  13.9
Miller, O       219   6.3  100   49   77   85   41  390  11.1
Huery, R         98   3.0   70   82   41   16   37  329  10.0
Credit, M       129   3.9   88   13   28   10   31  310   9.4
Bowers, A        64   1.8   52   83   31    0   40  191   5.5
Hawkins, D       62   1.8   53   31   29    3   13  143   4.1
Murry, E         40   1.2   29   49   27    1   24  137   4.0
Marks, L         71   2.4   28    5   12    5    5  112   3.7
Whitby, C         9   0.4   12   15    2    0    5   31   1.3
Linn, W           5   0.3    5    1    4    1    1   10   0.5
Fletcher, C       5   1.3    3    0    3    0    2   12   3.0
Hogue, M          9   1.8   10    3    3    0    6   14   2.8
Davis, S          9   3.0    1    1    1    1    1    0   0.0
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Arkansas       1296  37.0  688  668  455  172  388 3345  95.6
Opponents      1399  40.0  739  536  724   88  208 2792  79.8


Roster
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Mario Credit            Sr 6-9  C   *
Lenzie Howell           Sr 6-5  F   *
Cannon Whitby           Sr 6-0  G
Arlyn Bowers            Jr 5-10 G   *
Clyde Fletcher          Jr 6-7  F 
Ron Huery               Jr 6-7  F
Larry Marks             Jr 6-7  F
Ernie Murry             Jr 6-1  G
Shawn Davis             So 6-9  C 
Todd Day                So 6-8  G/F *
Darrell Hawkins         So 6-5  F
Lee Mayberry            So 6-2  G   *
Oliver Miller           So 6-9  C   
Michael Hogue           Fr 6-8  F
Warren Linn             Fr 6-6  G

* - starter

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mhuff

The thing about Cannon and his little brother is they both played cor their father and had carte blanche to shoot . Little brother shot the longest shots I've even seen. Ironically he made the ones four or five steps past half court but missed the regular 3p shots. Both were novelties as most coaches would have their players shoot higher percentage shots. Rotnei shot the ball more successfully

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ImHogginIt

Quote from: FineAsSwine on September 23, 2017, 10:24:21 am
Is he still connected with the Basketball program?

Don't know anything about him. Was trying to remember when he played and googled him. Saw this thread and link to his linkedin profile. Thought it was impressive that he is the President of a large company so posted it in the old thread.

FineAsSwine

Quote from: ImHogginIt on September 23, 2017, 04:32:26 pm
Don't know anything about him. Was trying to remember when he played and googled him. Saw this thread and link to his linkedin profile. Thought it was impressive that he is the President of a large company so posted it in the old thread.

Just thought he might still have a close connection to the Hogs since he played and graduated from UA.
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Quote from: Hums on March 02, 2008, 12:05:04 pm
Does anybody remember the game he had against Ark St in the NIT, it saved Nolans job at the time. It was Nolans 2nd year here and we got paired up with A St, and had to come from way behind to force OT where we won the game.

And some on Hogville are still sad we won that game and did not fire Nolan ultra quick
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Quote from: ballinhog on March 01, 2008, 11:17:07 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?

Without googling, only going by memory, he was a fan favorite who got in the game only if we were killing somebody.  If he scored the place went nuts. 
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Quote from: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 24, 2017, 10:46:39 am
Without googling, only going by memory, he was a fan favorite who got in the game only if we were killing somebody.  If he scored the place went nuts. 

If I remember correctly, he was a high school scoring machine that had unbelievable range.   However, he rarely saw the court as a hog. 

dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya

Quote from: East TN HAWG on September 24, 2017, 12:10:55 pm
If I remember correctly, he was a high school scoring machine that had unbelievable range.   However, he rarely saw the court as a hog. 

Sounds about right.  Didn't have the physical tools, especially for our style of play and the depth of our bench, to play regularly...
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ShadowHawg

I used to wear his arse out at the HYPR back in the day. He couldn't play a lick of d. He was a whiner and played with a hot head buddy I had to give an over night all expenses paid trip to the hospital while playing one day.

He would have scored a lot at a lower level college because he had a quick release and was knock down against mere mortals. Problem is, Div 1 guys back in those days weren't mere mortals.

dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya

Quote from: ShadowHawg on September 24, 2017, 02:59:10 pm
I used to wear his arse out at the HYPR back in the day. He couldn't play a lick of d. He was a whiner and played with a hot head buddy I had to give an over night all expenses paid trip to the hospital while playing one day.

He would have scored a lot at a lower level college because he had a quick release and was knock down against mere mortals. Problem is, Div 1 guys back in those days weren't mere mortals.

I love Hogville. 

Funny how that(the whiner part) was not part of the overall perception of Hog fans during his playing days.

Great story.
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nesjunk

Forgotten in all this is that he was caught up in scandal his senior season that cost him a whopping 10 games of suspension.  That's a significant amount of missed playing time, and the team sort of moved on without him.  He was never really integrated into the game plan after that, and the Hogs went to the Final Four. 

Tough break, but he is remembered fondly as one of the original long-range bombers.  I'm glad to see he has been successful.  WPS!

dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya

Quote from: nesjunk on September 24, 2017, 08:51:28 pm
Forgotten in all this is that he was caught up in scandal his senior season that cost him a whopping 10 games of suspension.  That's a significant amount of missed playing time, and the team sort of moved on without him.  He was never really integrated into the game plan after that, and the Hogs went to the Final Four. 

Tough break, but he is remembered fondly as one of the original long-range bombers.  I'm glad to see he has been successful.  WPS!

I had forgotten about that.  Those were crazy times, and man were those teams fun to watch!
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Quote from: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 24, 2017, 09:00:42 pm
I had forgotten about that.  Those were crazy times, and man were those teams fun to watch!

Uncommon times indeed

linkshog

well I work indirectly with him and he is a total jerk and has been successful in parlaying that into a profitable career.  He has been fired several times along the way.  i got to give it to him though.  He somehow manages to land another high paying gig.  He is working for Sysco Foods in Memphis and is not very well liked there either.  he was actually fired from Sysco in Arkansas several years back
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Quote from: linkshog on September 27, 2017, 01:49:37 pm
well I work indirectly with him and he is a total jerk and has been successful in parlaying that into a profitable career.  He has been fired several times along the way.  i got to give it to him though.  He somehow manages to land another high paying gig.  He is working for Sysco Foods in Memphis and is not very well liked there either.  he was actually fired from Sysco in Arkansas several years back
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Quote from: ballinhog on March 01, 2008, 11:17:07 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?
Quote from: ballinhog on March 01, 2008, 11:17:07 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?


Oh we've had bigger bust - Gilbert, Jennings, even Cutts and the list goes on

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Quote from: hogbud on September 27, 2017, 08:04:56 pm
Could someone fill me in on him? Im not old enough to remember him and I see his name on here alot..was he like a bigtime bust or sumthn?


Oh we've had bigger bust - Gilbert, Jennings, even Cutts and the list goes on

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phadedhawg

I loved Cannon Whitby...he'd be on my all time favorite hog team if I drafted one. 

Not sure why I connected with him so much but every time he came in the game and popped a 3, we'd go nuts in my house. 

phadedhawg

Quote from: dj shanon "Notshavin" smeya on September 28, 2017, 12:34:31 am
Biley

Biley was a bit of a bust, that's true but let's just say it.  What Nolan did, starting him in the national championship game vs Duke...that was awesome. 

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Quote from: Wild Bill Hog on March 02, 2008, 02:52:47 pm
How far out were his shots from?  I remember he stopped way back of the 3 point line.  The ASU guy wouldn't come out on him and Whitby looked at him, shrugged his shoulders, sort of shook his head, and drained the shots.  He forced the OT and the Hogs won pulling away.
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Quote from: phadedhawg on September 28, 2017, 02:20:20 pm
Biley was a bit of a bust, that's true but let's just say it.  What Nolan did, starting him in the national championship game vs Duke...that was awesome. 
Loved Biley's attitude... or at least what I perceived as a good attitude.  Yes, starting him in the championship game was awesome!  A bit of a tribute to him for all his hard work.  And he did play hard on defense, so having him start didn't hurt us.  I can't remember who's spot he took in the lineup, but I figure it helped them have fresher legs later in the game when we really needed that.

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Plenty of responses here nail who Whitby was, but he also had a unique shooting motion.  Kind of like a flip of the ball from chest/neck height, if I recall correctly.  Another reason why he really had to be open to get off a shot.
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Quote from: MB Hog on October 05, 2017, 11:28:37 am
Loved Biley's attitude... or at least what I perceived as a good attitude.  Yes, starting him in the championship game was awesome!  A bit of a tribute to him for all his hard work.  And he did play hard on defense, so having him start didn't hurt us.  I can't remember who's spot he took in the lineup, but I figure it helped them have fresher legs later in the game when we really needed that.

I think it was Darnell's spot.
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Quote from: linkshog on September 27, 2017, 01:49:37 pm
well I work indirectly with him and he is a total jerk and has been successful in parlaying that into a profitable career.  He has been fired several times along the way.  i got to give it to him though.  He somehow manages to land another high paying gig.  He is working for Sysco Foods in Memphis and is not very well liked there either.  he was actually fired from Sysco in Arkansas several years back

Quote from: 98hogs on September 27, 2017, 06:26:03 pm
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Quote from: nesjunk on September 24, 2017, 08:51:28 pm
Forgotten in all this is that he was caught up in scandal his senior season that cost him a whopping 10 games of suspension.  That's a significant amount of missed playing time, and the team sort of moved on without him.  He was never really integrated into the game plan after that, and the Hogs went to the Final Four. 

Tough break, but he is remembered fondly as one of the original long-range bombers.  I'm glad to see he has been successful.  WPS!

I followed the Hogs closely then but I'm drawing a blank on what this scandal was about.  Anyone remember?

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Quote from: phadedhawg on October 06, 2017, 05:52:15 pm

I followed the Hogs closely then but I'm drawing a blank on what this scandal was about.  Anyone remember?

Goggled this:

Arkansas senior guard Cannon Whitby

was ruled ineligible to play Thursday because his name appeared

on several lists confiscated from a man charged with running

a betting operation, Coach Nolan Richardson said.
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Worked with him years ago for a food company.  A total d-bag. 

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Quote from: phadedhawg on October 06, 2017, 05:52:15 pm

I followed the Hogs closely then but I'm drawing a blank on what this scandal was about.  Anyone remember?

There was a bookie in Fayetteville with whom many of the students were placing bets on sports (except the Cubs.  I seem to recall he was a relative of one of their players.)  He was busted and he had records on hand of all of his active customers.  The authorities did  not pursue legal action against the customers, but it is against NCAA rules for student-athletes to wager (legal or not) on any NCAA sport.  All of the Razorback athletes in his files were suspended for roughly 1/3 of the season depending on the sport.  Whitby missed 10 games.  It seems a few baseball players missed about 20 games.  There were others in various sports - none in football - but I don't recall the details of their suspension.

Honestly,  I thought it was much ado about nothing,  but most NCAA infractions are.  But the suspensions were significant, especially for a senior like Whitby.