Best college jobs

[LRrazorback]

ESPN insider has a list of coaching jobs. Number 24 is Wisky. Curious if any of you are insiders and can say where we rank?

[The_Boot_stops_here]

#22, right in front of Miami and right behind Nebraska....top5 of Texas, Bama, USC, Ohio St and Florida

[LRrazorback]

Great thanks!!

[ChicoHog]

Agree on the top 5.  Those 5 should always have good teams.  In fact I would say of those 5 Bama is the toughest to win at but of course Saban has changed that. 

The next 5 should include FSU, LSU, OU, UGA and now I might even put A&M in that group.  Michigan, ND, Tenner, Auburn, Clemson, Penn st, UCLA, Oregon all close. 

[Hoggish1]

#22, right in front of Miami and right behind Nebraska....top5 of Texas, Bama, USC, Ohio St and Florida

Would you trust someone's judgement that puts us between Miami and Nebraska?  Not me...

[HiggiePiggy]

Would you trust someone's judgement that puts us between Miami and Nebraska?  Not me...

Are you saying that we are a better job or a worse job than both of them? 

[Hogwild]

Complete SEC Rankings:
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Texas A&M
6. Auburn
7. Tennessee
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
10. Ole Miss
11. Missouri
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt


8. Arkansas: Arkansas has a lot going for it, even if it isn't in the heart of the Southeast's most fertile recruiting territory. It's essentially the only team in the state -- something LSU and Georgia can't even say -- and the school has unloaded some funds on improving facilities. However, since the state doesn't typically have a lot of top-notch prospects, coaches must heavily recruit other states such as Texas and Oklahoma.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/98420/ranking-the-sec-college-football-coaching-jobs

[usf15cc]

However, since the state doesn't typically have a lot of top-notch prospects, coaches must heavily recruit other states such as Texas and Oklahoma.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/98420/ranking-the-sec-college-football-coaching-jobs

Shows how much ESPN knows since when have we recruited Oklahoma hard?

[hawgwash]

Shows how much ESPN knows since when have we recruited Oklahoma hard?

Petrino had some success there.

[usf15cc]

I count 11 Commits most of them came because of Garrick McGee, and few of them had little to no impact, during their time here.

[Uncommon]

I count 11 Commits most of them came because of Garrick McGee, and few of them had little to no impact, during their time here.

To further emphasize how little Oklahoma we have on our team, on next year's team we'll only have 4 Razorbacks from the state of Oklahoma.

68 OL Austin Beck
TE Austin Cantrell
29 DB Jared Collins
4 WR Keon Hatcher

[ArkansasI]

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. LSU

5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M 
7. Missouri
8. South Carolina 
9. Arkansas
10. Auburn
11. Kentucky
12. Ole Miss
13. Mississippi State

14. Vanderbilt*

*Vandy may arguably be a better job than as ranked.  Nashville is a nice city and the expectations are more reasonable than elsewhere.

[George S. Pigton]

I wouldn't put OK in my top 10, if you don't have the right coach there, you can lose a lot of games.  They have a
lot of tradition but so does Bama.  If the wrong man is heading the program even Bama will struggle as we saw in the
early 2000's.

OK does not produce a lot of kids so they rely upon TX as we know, before Stoops, and recently under Stoops, if
you can't recruit, you can't win.

[Hogberry Snortcake]

1. Florida
2. Georgia
3. Alabama
4. LSU

5. Tennessee
6. Texas A&M 
7. Missouri
8. South Carolina 
9. Arkansas
10. Auburn
11. Kentucky
12. Ole Miss
13. Mississippi State

14. Vanderbilt*

*Vandy may arguably be a better job than as ranked.  Nashville is a nice city and the expectations are more reasonable than elsewhere.

Academics might be an issue though (Vandy).  Course its private so they might just do whatever they want.  I'd be curious to know how that works for them actually.  Vandy was my #2 back in the day.

[LRrazorback]

Vanderbilt has one thing going for it and their last coach Franklin took advantage of their one major recruiting advantage...education.  As funny as it may sound you're still going to school to get an education, not every kid will go to the NFL.  So, to offer a kid a $300,000+ education for free, from a prestigious school like Vanderbilt is a heck of a deal.  I heard Franklin's pitch to recruits was something like, "Vanderbilt $300,000+ education vs. Arkansas or anywhere else, $150,000, then you can expect to earn "X" amount (which is more than any other SEC school)."  Not a bad recruiting pitch.

[ChicoHog]

Shows how much ESPN knows since when have we recruited Oklahoma hard?

They probably meant because of geography and Fayetteville's proximity to Ok. 

[Inhogswetrust]

Agree on the top 5.  Those 5 should always have good teams.  In fact I would say of those 5 Bama is the toughest to win at but of course Saban has changed that. 

Actually a certain former Arkansan changed that a long time ago.

[clutch]

Are you saying that we are a better job or a worse job than both of them? 

I'd say now we are most definitely a better job than Miami. Nebraska is probably pretty close. The Miami job isn't even close to what it once was.

[HiggiePiggy]

The question really is which ones have better resources and better recruiting grounds.   You have a great coach and he will win anywhere.  You have a bad coach he will lose anywhere.   Certain schools you can win huge if you are a great coach others it takes a little time to build up before you start winning big.   

[JansterZ71]

Complete SEC Rankings:
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Texas A&M
6. Auburn
7. Tennessee
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
10. Ole Miss
11. Missouri
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt


8. Arkansas: Arkansas has a lot going for it, even if it isn't in the heart of the Southeast's most fertile recruiting territory. It's essentially the only team in the state -- something LSU and Georgia can't even say -- and the school has unloaded some funds on improving facilities. However, since the state doesn't typically have a lot of top-notch prospects, coaches must heavily recruit other states such as Texas and Oklahoma.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/98420/ranking-the-sec-college-football-coaching-jobs

ESPN NAILED THIS LIST

[NaturalStateReb]

The only thing better than being a coach at a major D-1 school is being a former coach at a major D-1 school.

[PaintballHog]

I think a school like UCF or USF would be perfect. Not alot of pressure and the gold mind of Florida recruiting. Even when the big dogs get their players, the leftovers are usually good enough to win in their conference.

[Murr]

14. Vanderbilt*

*Vandy may arguably be a better job than as ranked.  Nashville is a nice city and the expectations are more reasonable than elsewhere.

All the coach has to do is beat Kentucky once and finish 6th or better in the East just one season and their job is secure for another three or four.

8. Arkansas: Arkansas has a lot going for it, even if it isn't in the heart of the Southeast's most fertile recruiting territory. It's essentially the only team in the state -- something LSU and Georgia can't even say -- and the school has unloaded some funds on improving facilities. However, since the state doesn't typically have a lot of top-notch prospects, coaches must heavily recruit other states such as Texas and Oklahoma.

Because we don't recruit Oklahoma enough? 

OK does not produce a lot of kids so they rely upon TX as we know, before Stoops, and recently under Stoops, if you can't recruit, you can't win.

Stoops has been there too long, just like Richt at Georgia. Everyone has gotten too comfortable with the "we are so close" every year and "if we only make is minor adjustment, we'll win the conference next year" concept.  It sucks for the fans because they'll get their hopes up with a big win against a tough team which will then be followed by a lose to Vandy or Kentucky, thus ruining the season.

[HiggiePiggy]

At least stoops gets Oklahoma into the championship game every now and then.   Richt will never get his team into a NC game. 

[usf15cc]

Going into Oklahoma to recruit is like going into Missouri or Mississippi to get players it's tough to beat out those other schools for players. Not enough talent to go around that's why Texas and Florida are so important.

[regi]

Complete SEC Rankings:
1. Florida
2. Alabama
3. LSU
4. Georgia
5. Texas A&M
6. Auburn
7. Tennessee
8. Arkansas
9. South Carolina
10. Ole Miss
11. Missouri
12. Mississippi State
13. Kentucky
14. Vanderbilt


8. Arkansas: Arkansas has a lot going for it, even if it isn't in the heart of the Southeast's most fertile recruiting territory. It's essentially the only team in the state -- something LSU and Georgia can't even say -- and the school has unloaded some funds on improving facilities. However, since the state doesn't typically have a lot of top-notch prospects, coaches must heavily recruit other states such as Texas and Oklahoma.

http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/98420/ranking-the-sec-college-football-coaching-jobs

You really can't argue with this list. Those top 6 have a recruiting advantage over Vols and Hogs. It is what it is, but both UT and Arkansas can still win at a high level with the right Coach. Now it should read, heavily recruit Texas and LOUISIANA, bot Oklahoma, but other than that. Not bad

[gawntrail]

I'd say now we are most definitely a better job than Miami. Nebraska is probably pretty close. The Miami job isn't even close to what it once was.

But, what the Miami job could be...... It could be the USC of the East.  A non-stop reloading of talent year in and year out.  P5 conference with a very manageable path to the ACC CG and then a strong bid for one of the 4 spots in the NC playoff....

I would say the Miami job is potentially top 10.

[Darren DeLoach]

If the Florida job is so very prominent, why can they not find a big time coach? One would think that a job as revered as Florida would be able to pick their coach from the cream of the crop.

[Arkansas Fan]

If the Florida job is so very prominent, why can they not find a big time coach? One would think that a job as revered as Florida would be able to pick their coach from the cream of the crop.

Because it ain't as good as people think. Florida might be the top state to recruit from, but tradition wise, what was Florida before Spurrier? Facilities? Many schools across the country have good to great facilities. I just don't think Florida is as good as many people want to believe.

[1highhog]

Are you saying that we are a better job or a worse job than both of them? 

We are a far better job than Miami, even though you're close to really great recruiting, their facilities suck worse than some in the Sunbelt.

[usf15cc]

We are a far better job than Miami, even though you're close to really great recruiting, their facilities suck worse than some in the Sunbelt.

I also think our support is better too.

[clutch]

But, what the Miami job could be...... It could be the USC of the East.  A non-stop reloading of talent year in and year out.  P5 conference with a very manageable path to the ACC CG and then a strong bid for one of the 4 spots in the NC playoff....

I would say the Miami job is potentially top 10.

I think the path to them being a top 10 program is a lot harder now than most think. Sure, they are surrounded by swarms of talent, but their facilities and fan support are both horrible. Those are two very important factors. They just so happen to he two factors that are hard to fix too.

[clutch]

I also think our support is better too.

Way better. I don't think it's even close.

[HiggiePiggy]

If the Florida job is so very prominent, why can they not find a big time coach? One would think that a job as revered as Florida would be able to pick their coach from the cream of the crop.

Well because the top coaches are currently at places they want to be. The really great coaches are already at places that are top 5 programs.