Maybe the worst call in MLB Postseason History

[RazorWorld]

Cards fans,

Please let me know how you would feel if that same infield fly had been called against the Cards?  This specific forum would be almost unreadable from all of the hate that would have been spewed.  You can't rationally argue that the ump made the right call when no other infield fly call on the season had been within 47 feet of its distance from home plate.  I can see where you would say Kozma was camped underneath it, but that wasn't the spirit of the rule ala the Pinetar Incident.  And don't come in here attacking me saying that I'm saying the terrible call cost the Braves the game because I'm not.  You can look at my post history and see what I think.

I would hope that if it had happened to the Cards at Bush stadium our fans would not throw anything on the field.
I'm not sure what surprised me more the call or the reaction. If my Cardinal fans had acted like that I'd be ashamed. If baseball fans can react to something like this in this fashion and it is accepted something is wrong.

[RazorWorld]

Game was help up over 20 minutes which forced Cards to change pitchers.

[Hogtropolis™]

I would hope that if it had happened to the Cards at Bush stadium our fans would not throw anything on the field.
I'm not sure what surprised me more the call or the reaction. If my Cardinal fans had acted like that I'd be ashamed. If baseball fans can react to something like this in this fashion and it is accepted something is wrong.

Agree completely.

[ucahogfan]

I would hope that if it had happened to the Cards at Bush stadium our fans would not throw anything on the field.
I'm not sure what surprised me more the call or the reaction. If my Cardinal fans had acted like that I'd be ashamed. If baseball fans can react to something like this in this fashion and it is accepted something is wrong.

I'm ashamed that the people at the game would throw stuff on the field in disagreement of a call.  That should never happen no matter the call.  I do agree that the infield fly could have been called in that situation, but it was against the spirit of the rule because the infield fly was meant to guard against easy DPs which wouldn't have been the case in that situation.  The fact that the LF umpire made the call makes it worse because none of the 4 regular umps would have made that call.

[bsking]

I would hope that if it had happened to the Cards at Bush stadium our fans would not throw anything on the field.
I'm not sure what surprised me more the call or the reaction. If my Cardinal fans had acted like that I'd be ashamed. If baseball fans can react to something like this in this fashion and it is accepted something is wrong.

Cardinals fans did the same thing in 1998.  Except it wasn't a game that really mattered.  And it was because McGwire was tossed arguing a strike call.  Which, if I'm correct, is a JUDGEMENT call.

So please tell me how the classless Braves fans differ from your fan base.

[OnTheHillHogFan]

Cardinals fans did the same thing in 1998.  Except it wasn't a game that really mattered.  And it was because McGwire was tossed arguing a strike call.  Which, if I'm correct, is a JUDGEMENT call.

So please tell me how the classless Braves fans differ from your fan base.

Didn't the same umpire that made the infield fly call toss McGwire out as well?

[RazorWorld]

Cardinals fans did the same thing in 1998.  Except it wasn't a game that really mattered.  And it was because McGwire was tossed arguing a strike call.  Which, if I'm correct, is a JUDGEMENT call.

So please tell me how the classless Braves fans differ from your fan base.

I don't recall that in 1998 there was any 20 min delay. I never said Braves fans are classless?? If that did happen in 98 then I would say in 14 years you wont remember this either. Actually I've always liked the Braves. Did you know they were once called the Boston Bees? 1936 Babe Ruth spent his last year as a Brave. The year after Ruth retired they changed the named from the Boston Braves to the Bees!!
Anyway sorry this had to tarnish a good game. They were also known as the Beaneaters once.....

[bsking]

I don't recall that in 1998 there was any 20 min delay. I never said Braves fans are classless?? If that did happen in 98 then I would say in 14 years you wont remember this either. Actually I've always liked the Braves. Did you know they were once called the Boston Bees? 1936 Babe Ruth spent his last year as a Brave. The year after Ruth retired they changed the named from the Boston Braves to the Bees!!
Anyway sorry this had to tarnish a good game. They were also known as the Beaneaters once.....

Didn't mean to target you specifically.  But there are several posters on here calling the Braves fans classless, while they call themselves the best fans in baseball.  Just pointing out that you can't have it both ways.

[bsking]

Didn't the same umpire that made the infield fly call toss McGwire out as well?

Yeah.  Odd.

[LVW]

Last nights call was bad but this one cost the Cards the title in 1985

http://mlb.mlb.com/video/play.jsp?content_id=13062921

That's B.S. Royals scored the winning run with 1 out. take away 1 baserunner and add 1 out and they still tie it. Jack Clark missed catching a catchable foul ball in the inning and that batter, Steve Balboni,  eventually got a hit.

[LVW]

http://www.nesn.com/2012/10/harold-reynolds-thinks-umpire-made-correct-call-in-controversial-cardinals-braves-infield-fly-ruling.html

If Harold Reynolds had been the batter he would have been the 1st one out arguing.

[Ray Piggers]

If Harold Reynolds had been the batter he would have been the 1st one out arguing.

Oh? He told you that? Interesting

[Ray Piggers]

I was just showing people that this HAS happened. Who gives a crap what Reynolds would have done, he explained why it WAS called.

[LVW]

Oh? He told you that? Interesting

I've seen him jump an umpire's butt over less before when he was playing.

[LVW]

The worst call I've seen in a "postseason" game; it was a game 163 which is technically a regular season game; but it was still directly tied to the postseason.



This was the last play of the game and ended the Padres Season in 2007 and Holliday still hasn't touched home.

[ImHogginIt]

The worst call I've seen in a "postseason" game; it was a game 163 which is technically a regular season game; but it was still directly tied to the postseason.



This was the last play of the game and ended the Padres Season in 2007 and Holliday still hasn't touched home.

He didn't touch home much this past post season either 

The Cards should make him give back some of his 17 million salary for sucking so bad in October

[tiber]

He didn't touch home much this past post season either 

The Cards should make him give back some of his 17 million salary for sucking so bad in October

Couldn't even finish the job when he tried to take out Scutero.

Classy.

[clutch]

Couldn't even finish the job when he tried to take out Scutero.

Classy.

Real baseball is fun to watch, I guess it's not for everybody though.

[bsking]

The worst call I've seen in a "postseason" game; it was a game 163 which is technically a regular season game; but it was still directly tied to the postseason.



This was the last play of the game and ended the Padres Season in 2007 and Holliday still hasn't touched home.

Really?

9/10 umpires, or anyone else for that matter call him safe on that play.  The umpire doesn't get a slow mo replay.  This isn't even remotely close to the same category.

[LVW]

Really?

9/10 umpires, or anyone else for that matter call him safe on that play.  The umpire doesn't get a slow mo replay.  This isn't even remotely close to the same category.

Since you're gonna take that attitude toward it, I change my mind and agree with the ump calling the infield fly. 

[clutch]

The worst call I've seen in a "postseason" game; it was a game 163 which is technically a regular season game; but it was still directly tied to the postseason.



This was the last play of the game and ended the Padres Season in 2007 and Holliday still hasn't touched home.

Still one of the best games I've watched.

[Ray Piggers]

Real baseball is fun to watch, I guess it's not for everybody though.

It's San Francisco... What do you expect?