Anderson Supporters

[Sho Nuff]

Serious question - how many years are you ok with missing the tournament before you would want a coaching change?  At some point, continuing to support a coach that is failing your school is the opposite of supporting your school.

[pccmizuno24]

Good question!

[hog golf]

There will be no good answer though.

[Sho Nuff]

There will be no good answer though.

Should there be?  We will have missed the tournament in 5 of 6 years, that's failure in my eyes.  Some posters seem to be so emphatic in their support of Mike.  Just wanting to see how far that extends.  I think some people who so believed in him just want so badly to be right that they will bang the drum for him no matter what.  If that's the case, how are they really supporting the program by fighting for a guy that is causing us to fail season after season?

[McKdaddy]

at some point, continuing to support a coach that is failing your school is the opposite of supporting your school.

^^^^^

[Hook 'em Hogs]

I'll bite here with a few qualifications as an Anderson supporter:
-I will never be a guy that calls for someone to get fired. It doesn't matter either way what I think. However, I can offer opinions as to what I would think Jeff Long would do in his position. I have fired people and unfortunately will probably have to fire people again. I know at times it's necessary.
-I'm not near the basketball guy that most of you are. I'm a football guy, but I have an opinion so I can offer it.
-Though not a basketball guy, I'm very intelligent. I understand how this stuff works in a fairly logical level.
-I'm not an Anderson supporter specifically, I'm a Hog supporter. I want Anderson to succeed because that means that the Hogs are succeeding.

Here's my thought on all of this:
If we don't make the tournament, I think Jeff Long will probably need to fire Anderson. Long himself said that the expectation was for us to make the NCAA Tourny this year. Last year was the last year that I would think it would be acceptable for Anderson to miss the tourny. 6 years seems like an eternity in college basketball to give someone a chance to really get there and stay there (as far as tournament appearances go). If I'm Long and we lose tonight, I start looking for a BIG NAME replacement to come to Arkansas tomorrow if not tonight. A big name might be able to keep the future recruiting classes together. HOWEVER!  If Arkansas were to win the SEC Tourny and make it in, Mike's earned another year because that was the expectation THIS year. That will not go well with some, but getting hot at the right time is a sign of good coaching. I'll support Anderson as a fan of the Hogs until we are officially eliminated from the Tourny.

[Bkhardicars]

Before this game, I was thinking he should get another year. I have to admit he appears to have lost the team..How many dunks and layups has LSU made? That is just lack of effort on our part. These last few losses are just like the football teams nose dive. It's not THAT they lost, it's HOW they've lost.I hope I see the news tonight that we came back and beat LSU and then we go on a tear for the rest of the year and make the tournament...Sadly, I think there's a better chance of us losing the rest of our games.

[Dropkick]

Mike Anderson = Nolan's revenge

[Letsroll1200]

Keep your foot on the gas!! We can't let up on defense Manny

[Sho Nuff]

I'll bite here with a few qualifications as an Anderson supporter:
-I will never be a guy that calls for someone to get fired. It doesn't matter either way what I think. However, I can offer opinions as to what I would think Jeff Long would do in his position. I have fired people and unfortunately will probably have to fire people again. I know at times it's necessary.
-I'm not near the basketball guy that most of you are. I'm a football guy, but I have an opinion so I can offer it.
-Though not a basketball guy, I'm very intelligent. I understand how this stuff works in a fairly logical level.
-I'm not an Anderson supporter specifically, I'm a Hog supporter. I want Anderson to succeed because that means that the Hogs are succeeding.

Here's my thought on all of this:
If we don't make the tournament, I think Jeff Long will probably need to fire Anderson. Long himself said that the expectation was for us to make the NCAA Tourny this year. Last year was the last year that I would think it would be acceptable for Anderson to miss the tourny. 6 years seems like an eternity in college basketball to give someone a chance to really get there and stay there (as far as tournament appearances go). If I'm Long and we lose tonight, I start looking for a BIG NAME replacement to come to Arkansas tomorrow if not tonight. A big name might be able to keep the future recruiting classes together. HOWEVER!  If Arkansas were to win the SEC Tourny and make it in, Mike's earned another year because that was the expectation THIS year. That will not go well with some, but getting hot at the right time is a sign of good coaching. I'll support Anderson as a fan of the Hogs until we are officially eliminated from the Tourny.

Good points

[HogMantheIntruder]

I think the majority of Hog fans ,myself included, really want(ed) CMA to be the guy to bring us back, but unless we make the NCAAT this year, it will be time for a change. It may be time for a change even if he does get us there, but there's no way he loses his job if we do make it, IMHO.

[Burt B.]

Why should barely making the tournament this year be the deciding factor? We shouldn't be hoping for a play in game in year six. We don't deserve a tournament spot.  No signature wins. Plenty of ugly losses.

[Youngsta71701]

Why should barely making the tournament this year be the deciding factor? We shouldn't be hoping for a play in game in year six. We don't deserve a tournament spot.  No signature wins. Plenty of ugly losses.

Can't help but to be negative huh? How about we just enjoy this road win? Our first win at LSU since 2009. As you should be able to tell if you have been watching SEC basketball this year. No win is a gimme. And that goes for not just Arkansas. We needed this to stop the bleeding.

[Youngsta71701]

Serious question - how many years are you ok with missing the tournament before you would want a coaching change?  At some point, continuing to support a coach that is failing your school is the opposite of supporting your school.

Pulled the trigger just a bit early...

[Sho Nuff]

Pulled the trigger just a bit early...

How so?  This post had a lot more to do with the past 6 years than just this game.  If you want to puff your chest out over beating a team that is 1-11 in league play then go ahead.  It's like bragging that you beat the special needs kid in a game of 1-on-1.

[Sow Lancelot]

How so?  This post had a lot more to do with the past 6 years than just this game.  If you want to puff your chest out over beating a team that is 1-11 in league play then go ahead.  It's like bragging that you beat the special needs kid in a game of 1-on-1.

Well, beating a 1-11 team on the road is better than losing to them.

[Hook 'em Hogs]

Pulled the trigger just a bit early...

I think it's a pertinent question. I think we have an uphill battle in making the tournament. I'm not confident that we will. I'm not sure anyone is CONFIDENT we will. So, in year 6, having little confidence we will make the tournament makes the OP's post relevant and not at all early.

[realistichog]

Pulled the trigger to early? What the hell does beating a horrible team that has lost 10 in a row have to do with making the tournament? Are you serious?

[ShadowHawg]

Pulled the trigger to early? What the hell does beating a horrible team that has lost 10 in a row have to do with making the tournament? Are you serious?

Joe Lunardi says we are still in the field with the win tonight. I would say that is significant.

[HogMantheIntruder]

Well, beating a 1-11 team on the road is better than losing to them.

Don't we know it!

[Youngsta71701]

Pulled the trigger to early? What the hell does beating a horrible team that has lost 10 in a row have to do with making the tournament? Are you serious?

I guess you missed the point. He obviously thought this game was over with in the 1st half.

BTW did we not lose to Missouri a couple of games ago? How about we stop taking any SEC win for granted? None is a given in this league for any team. You have to go out there an earn them not matter if your playing the last place team in the league or the first place team in the league.

Can we please enjoy a win sometimes instead of being negative about everything?! We did win. That's all that matters. Now shut the hell up and let the ones that want to enjoy this win enjoy this win! Geez...

[ErieHog]

Joe Lunardi says we are still in the field with the win tonight. I would say that is significant.

He said it before we won tonight, and before Tennessee lost-- so we'll have to wait and see what he says (and others) after this win.

[Slater]

Joe Lunardi says we are still in the field with the win tonight. I would say that is significant.

Facts and figures can not stop the hate all things Mike train, the obsession is there

[Youngsta71701]

I think it's a pertinent question. I think we have an uphill battle in making the tournament. I'm not confident that we will. I'm not sure anyone is CONFIDENT we will. So, in year 6, having little confidence we will make the tournament makes the OP's post relevant and not at all early.

No doubt we have an uphill battle. But this OP was obviously talking about this game. He was thinking the game was over with after the 1st half.

[Youngsta71701]

Facts and figures can not stop the hate all things Mike train, the obsession is there

I guess they have to hate someone instead of giving him some credit for some changes he made tonight. I know it was hard on him but he had to do what he had to do.

[Sho Nuff]

I guess you missed the point. He obviously thought this game was over with in the 1st half.

BTW did we not lose to Missouri a couple of games ago? How about we stop taking any SEC win for granted? None is a given in this league for any team. You have to go out there an earn them not matter if your playing the last place team in the league or the first place team in the league.

Can we please enjoy a win sometimes instead of being negative about everything?! We did win. That's all that matters. Now shut the hell up and let the ones that want to enjoy this win enjoy this win! Geez...

I didn't even reference this game in the original post.  So then, how do you determine that I obviously thought this game was over?  I think you're the one missing the point.  I'm sure it's not your first time.

[ShadowHawg]

He said it before we won tonight, and before Tennessee lost-- so we'll have to wait and see what he says (and others) after this win.

He said, "win and stay in" about this particular game TODAY. Nothing to wait and see.

[ErieHog]

He said, "win and stay in" about this particular game TODAY. Nothing to wait and see.

More the other services which seem to have us on either side of the bubble.  Last I saw a CBS Sports tweet, they had us outside looking in, or at least one of their writers did.

[ShadowHawg]

More the other services which seem to have us on either side of the bubble.  Last I saw a CBS Sports tweet, they had us outside looking in, or at least one of their writers did.

CBS has had us out for a couple of weeks now.

Point is, this season is far from over and we are still alive. Lunardi is very accurate as well. Hard not to take him seriously. We are only in the last 4 in by Lunardi. Bubble could burst easily.

[pigture perfect]

I just don't see the Mike hate. It's just not good basketball. I've seen better high school coaching than what I've seen from this coaching staff. I've said that it depends on whether we make the tourney this year, but a part of me is scared that if we do, we might set a record for a beat down for a P5 team.

[ErieHog]

CBS has had us out for a couple of weeks now.

Point is, this season is far from over and we are still alive. Lunardi is very accurate as well. Hard not to take him seriously. We are only in the last 4 in by Lunardi. Bubble could burst easily.

CBS had us in before the Missouri game, and they only updated us to being completely out of the field after the Vandy Loss.

[Youngsta71701]

I didn't even reference this game in the original post.  So then, how do you determine that I obviously thought this game was over?  I think you're the one missing the point.  I'm sure it's not your first time.

I guess the timing was just a coincidence then. My bad...

[Youngsta71701]

I just don't see the Mike hate. It's just not good basketball. I've seen better high school coaching than what I've seen from this coaching staff. I've said that it depends on whether we make the tourney this year, but a part of me is scared that if we do, we might set a record for a beat down for a P5 team.

If we continue to make adjustments like we did in the 2nd half we'll be just fine. We ran a defense that kept Moses in the lane and in turn it helped our whole defense.

[HogMantheIntruder]

I guess they have to hate someone instead of giving him some credit for some changes he made tonight. I know it was hard on him but he had to do what he had to do.

Speaking of credit, who's responsible for our turnaround in FT shooting? I can't say for sure, but I believe this is the best FT shooting team Arkansas has had since before Nolan. I'm thinking it's a Scotty Thurman effect.

[Burt B.]

Can't help but to be negative huh? How about we just enjoy this road win? Our first win at LSU since 2009. As you should be able to tell if you have been watching SEC basketball this year. No win is a gimme. And that goes for not just Arkansas. We needed this to stop the bleeding.

This is not about me being negative or not. I'm just being a realist. Setting some ambiguous goal of squeaking into a field of 68 just doesn't cut it.
Based on our body of work, would you expect us to have a good showing even if we get into the tournament??
Please point out the quality wins this year.  Getting rolled up and embarrassed at home by mediocre and bad squads shouldn't happen repeatedly. We have been bleeding not just this season but most of Mike's tenure.

[Youngsta71701]

Speaking of credit, who's responsible for our turnaround in FT shooting? I can't say for sure, but I believe this is the best FT shooting team Arkansas has had since before Nolan. I'm thinking it's a Scotty Thurman effect.

I've noticed this also. In the games we shoot free throws well we usually win. In the games we shoot free throws poorly we usually lose. Their are a few exceptions. The Kentucky, Oklahoma State and Vanderbilt games would have been losses no matter how good we shot from the line.

[Youngsta71701]

This is not about me being negative or not. I'm just being a realist. Setting some ambiguous goal of squeaking into a field of 68 just doesn't cut it.
Based on our body of work, would you expect us to have a good showing even if we get into the tournament??
Please point out the quality wins this year.  Getting rolled up and embarrassed at home by mediocre and bad squads shouldn't happen repeatedly. We have been bleeding not just this season but most of Mike's tenure.

We won tonight that's what I'm talking about. Can't do anything about the past. I choose to enjoy this win tonight and worry about the next game when it comes. WooPig!!

I just wish we could enjoy a win without all the negative talk. That's all. We have enough of that when we lose.

[HogMantheIntruder]

I've noticed this also. In the games we shoot free throws well we usually win. In the games we shoot free throws poorly we usually lose. Their are a few exceptions. The Kentucky, Oklahoma State and Vanderbilt games would have been losses no matter how good we shot from the line.

Agreed. And I know that FT% is largely proportional to how many great shooters you have on the team, but that doesn't tell the whole story. I looked back, and so far I have not found a better year for free throws for the Hogs. I wonder if CMA has addressed this...

Fun fact I just learned- Mike Anderson holds the Guinness World Record for free throw percentage at an AMAZING 97.3%!!!! I would say that that explains it, but for two facts:

1) We have not been a good FT shooting team under CMA until this season.
2) It's a different Mike Anderson, and this one is in no way affiliated with the Arkansas basketball program.

So the mystery lives on.

[Youngsta71701]

Agreed. And I know that FT% is largely proportional to how many great shooters you have on the team, but that doesn't tell the whole story. I looked back, and so far I have not found a better year for free throws for the Hogs. I wonder if CMA has addressed this...

I agree with you. Maybe Scotty has a lot to do with that. He was a pretty good free throw shooter in his playing days. Probably still is...

[ErieHog]

Agreed. And I know that FT% is largely proportional to how many great shooters you have on the team, but that doesn't tell the whole story. I looked back, and so far I have not found a better year for free throws for the Hogs. I wonder if CMA has addressed this...

Fun fact I just learned- Mike Anderson holds the Guinness World Record for free throw percentage at an AMAZING 97.3%!!!! I would say that that explains it, but for two facts:

1) We have not been a good FT shooting team under CMA until this season.
2) It's a different Mike Anderson, and this one is in no way affiliated with the Arkansas basketball program.

So the mystery lives on.

We've actually been pretty good from the line under Mike-- only one season under 69% as a team (for contrast, we failed to hit that mark 7 times between Nolan and Mike) this is the highest point since 77-78, though.

[Jonteviosk]

Before this game, I was thinking he should get another year. I have to admit he appears to have lost the team..How many dunks and layups has LSU made? That is just lack of effort on our part. These last few losses are just like the football teams nose dive. It's not THAT they lost, it's HOW they've lost.I hope I see the news tonight that we came back and beat LSU and then we go on a tear for the rest of the year and make the tournament...Sadly, I think there's a better chance of us losing the rest of our games.

I am sorry did we lose some game tonight that I wasn't aware of? No then shutup.

[Hogs958]

I am sorry did we lose some game tonight that I wasn't aware of? No then shutup.

ah yes the tried and true shut up argument. Next time try calling him a butthead, and tell him he's not invited to your birthday party.

[Jonteviosk]

CMA has not lost this team if he had they would not have almost pulled out Mizz game and wouldn't have outscored Vandy in second half and wouldn't have won tonight. These kids have heart.

[The_Iceman]

I still support MA but I can see where there are some that don't!  I want hungry hippo fired!

Let's give Mike and Bret a pass on their first season, even though Mike took over a program in much better shape than Bret and with a lot shorter needed turn around time.

On average, how often did Bret Bielema face a ranked team compared to Mike Anderson?

[KlubhouseKonnected]

I accept that Arkansas cannot get a better coach.

[Dirty]

Let's give Mike and Bret a pass on their first season, even though Mike took over a program in much better shape than Bret and with a lot shorter needed turn around time.

On average, how often did Bret Bielema face a ranked team compared to Mike Anderson?

Your right CBB faced more rank teams but I believe basketball in a whole as gotten more competitive all around.  Mike has gotten better about winning on the road than previous coaches. 

CBB blowing those last two big leads has done it in for me.  Now if the hogs don't make the tournament this year, I am willing to give MA one more year but that would be it.

[jm]

Nobody wants the Hogs to lose. The Anderson supporters truly believe he can win at a high level once he works through the train wreck that was Arkansas basketball when he arrived. They may be wrong, but it is not due to a hidden agenda or some weird desire to see Arkansas fail.

[12247]

Our two HCs have two common threads between them.  Both enjoy operating in a scheme that has less chance of success in our situation.  <Mike likes the supposed 40 minutes of hell pace and he hasn't provided that at any time since being here, with great success, except for maybe when we were playing a truly horrible rent a win team a few times.  Any team that is any good walks or runs right through us.  BB prefers to stand up and run over the competition and the only time that works is, once again, when we play a horrible rent a win.  Neither chooses to truly change what they like, work or not.  In both Football and Basketball, we are what we are.  You will not see a great and dramatic sustained change in either program with either of these Guys simply because their methods is not the best methods for wins when applying the barriers that Arkansas faces in each sport.

[Bkhardicars]

I am sorry did we lose some game tonight that I wasn't aware of? No then shutup.

[Seaghawg]

I would like to fire a lot of the fans that make idiotic remarks on here.