Anyone else just hear Dan Wolken on Gary Parrish's show?

[FineAsSwine]

If playing in one ncaat in 5 years is winning, then, yea, I guess.

I was responding to a post that asserted that Frank Martin can coach because he has won everywhere he has been. Why did you quote me because we aren't having the same conversation?

[hogsanity]

I was responding to a post that asserted that Frank Martin can coach because he has won everywhere he has been. Why did you quote me because we aren't having the same conversation?

Because you are asserting that Anderson has done the same as Martin. If so then they are either both good coaches or both bad coaches.

[Kevin]

Mike Anderson has done the same.

I did not say cma cannot coach a girls b team.  I never said he cannot coach.

[dsims2k3]

Sounds like what happened here after Portis left. Oh, except they went from 27 wins to 16.

Billy  Kennedy  went from 28 wins to 13 wins thus far, but you claim he's a  better coach. 🤔 Something looks inconsistent with your logic.

[Smokehouse]

It's funny how much of a 180 this board has done when it comes to Buzz Williams. I was his most vocal supporter after Pelphrey was fired and I got HAMMERED by several posters.

Buzz was at the top of my list for coaches I thought we could realistically get at the time. Would still love to have him but I think it'd be much harder to get him to make the switch now.

[Jonteviosk]

If playing in one ncaat in 5 years is winning, then, yea, I guess.

How many Frank have at USC none? Gotcha ok your point is made.

[Sivad]

If playing in one ncaat in 5 years is winning, then, yea, I guess.

Working on his 6th and maybe his 7th.

[Hawg Red]

Buzz was at the top of my list for coaches I thought we could realistically get at the time. Would still love to have him but I think it'd be much harder to get him to make the switch now.

I believe that ship has sailed. But, hey, we beat Wofford by 3 points and lost to perhaps the worst team in Missouri's modern history.

[GuvHog]

that is ignorant. frank martin can coach. he has won everywhere he as been.

No doubt about it. As I said earlier, Frank is twice the Head coach Mike will ever be.

[Jonteviosk]

No doubt about it. As I said earlier, Frank is twice the Head coach Mike will ever be.

Again learn Basketball Frank hasn't even taken them to TOURNEY and yet hes 2 the coach. Spoken by someone who doesn't know the difference between golf and basketball.

[rude1]

If playing in one ncaat in 5 years is winning, then, yea, I guess.

LOL, still trying to figure the Frank Martin love. This is his 5th season, this will be his FIRST tourney visit there. Losing his best player by far at the end of this season, will be uphill to get back into tourney next year = 1 tourney visit in 6 years, sound familiar?

[Jonteviosk]

I'm in complete agreement with Rude.

[GuvHog]

LOL, still trying to figure the Frank Martin love. This is his 5th season, this will be his FIRST tourney visit there. Losing his best player by far at the end of this season, will be uphill to get back into tourney next year = 1 tourney visit in 6 years, sound familiar?

Check his record at Kansas State.

[Jonteviosk]

Check his record at Kansas State.

In that case check MA complete record at Missouri and elite 8 yeah boy

[Hawg Red]

In that case check MA complete record at Missouri and elite 8 yeah boy

Comparing Frank Martin at Kansas State vs Mike Anderson at Missouri:

Frank Martin - 4 NCAA tournament appearances in 5 seasons; one Elite 8; .684 winning % overall, .610 conference winning %

Mike Anderson - 3 NCAA tournament appearances in 5 seasons; one Elite 8; .661 winning % overall, .538 conference winning %


But your own desired criteria, Mike Anderson is inferior to Frank Martin in Big 12 play. Except, here's another thing -- Anderson followed a coach at Missouri who went to 4 NCAA tournaments and an Elite 8. Kansas State had not been to the NCAA tournament since 1993 (under Dana Altman) when Frank Martin took over. KSU had not been dancing for 15 years before Frank Martin. I'm not sure where this march to prove Mike Anderson is a better coach than Frank Martin is coming from when Martin outperformed him in the Big 12 and takes over and actually turns around tougher jobs.

[GuvHog]

In that case check MA complete record at Missouri and elite 8 yeah boy

Check Mike's record at Missouri after the previous coaches players had all left the team. It ain't pretty.

[hogsanity]

LOL, still trying to figure the Frank Martin love. This is his 5th season, this will be his FIRST tourney visit there. Losing his best player by far at the end of this season, will be uphill to get back into tourney next year = 1 tourney visit in 6 years, sound familiar?

I did not say I love Frank Martin, but for someone to say he could not coach girls b team, or whatever the stupid statement was, is just stupid.

[HognitiveDissonance]

I'm in complete agreement with Rude.

Me too, and I'm not an MA guy.
But I don't believe the grass is always greener.
MA has achieved everything those guys have.
I'm not crazy about Frank Martin, Billy Kennedy, Archie Miller. All of those guys have had moments of glory, but nothing consistently great. So has MA.
All I know is MA hasn't done as well as he has needed to, HERE AT ARKANSAS, and he's in trouble. I think we can do better, but if there's a next coach 'savior', he's probably an unknown guy at a mid-major. That's the recipe for Ark success---the legends generally came from nowhere to stardom(Eddie, Nolan, John McDonnell, etc)