Cole Kelly

[justmakeit2thebcs]

2017 QB Rushing

SMU - Ben Hicks  47 rushes -79 yds  1 TD
Hogs- Cole Kelly 53 rushes - 74 yds  2 TDs

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

2017 QB Rushing

SMU - Ben Hicks  47 rushes -79 yds  1 TD
Hogs- Cole Kelly 53 rushes - 74 yds  2 TDs

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[HamGrowsOnTrees]

No.


And no




Annnnd no
Just stop.


It's plain to anyone that has a brain that C.K. is a nose guard


He just needs to add 130 lbs of muscle and fat.

[AirWarren]

2017 QB Rushing

SMU - Ben Hicks  47 rushes -79 yds  1 TD
Hogs- Cole Kelly 53 rushes - 74 yds  2 TDs

Way too many facts for this thread. Or forum for that matter.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Ok I,m ready for a ton of smites but until I see some true remorse for driving under the influence then I don't care if he's gone and actually wish for it. Instead of being sorry he was being a smart ass to the cops asking if they had a warrant. Let him go to texas A@M. Fisher loves that kind of player.

I saw it in the cop car on the arrest film...

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

No.


And no




Annnnd no
Just stop.


It's plain to anyone that has a brain that C.K. is a nose guard


He just needs to add 130 lbs of muscle and fat.

NYJMSU.... That set's a smoke screen for the truly stoooopid to weasel their way out. You're an enabler.

[redleg]

Has there ever been a QB switch positions to OL??

Yes. Lane Johnson at OU.

[RebHog]

I saw it in the cop car on the arrest film...

Saw what? Remorse or bad attitude? Either way teenagers do and say stupid things add in alcohol that multiplies. To those wanting to crucify the kid after one incident I ask you to think about your past at that age if you can still stick your nose up to this kid well then kudos to you.

[kp72204]

Has there ever been a QB switch positions to OL??

Not sure, but I think the QB from Kentucky a few years back could have. Lorenzan, I think was his name.

[Michaelt]

I'm up in the air on this one....

If CK could lose a little weight, get quicker feet, and get better at his reads and some passes maybe he could do well in CCM's system.

Will be interesting to see what news and tidbits come out of practices and training reports.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Saw what? Remorse or bad attitude? Either way teenagers do and say stupid things add in alcohol that multiplies. To those wanting to crucify the kid after one incident I ask you to think about your past at that age if you can still stick your nose up to this kid well then kudos to you.

Remorse... I have a son with similar mannerisms as Cole. The kid didn't regret getting caught. He regretted letting people down.

[Piggfoot]

Ok I,m ready for a ton of smites but until I see some true remorse for driving under the influence then I don't care if he's gone and actually wish for it. Instead of being sorry he was being a smart ass to the cops asking if they had a warrant. Let him go to texas A@M. Fisher loves that kind of player.

What will it take for you to see that remorse. I too saw the tape. He was not being a smart ass as you said. I thought he was respectful. His speech was not slurred. He was asking for his parents. I guess people see things differently and maybe what they want to see.

[PORKULATOR]

Ok I,m ready for a ton of smites but until I see some true remorse for driving under the influence then I don't care if he's gone and actually wish for it. Instead of being sorry he was being a smart ass to the cops asking if they had a warrant. Let him go to texas A@M. Fisher loves that kind of player.

OK arselips, we'll get to smiting

[Pigstie]

2017 QB Rushing

SMU - Ben Hicks  47 rushes -79 yds  1 TD
Hogs- Cole Kelly 53 rushes - 74 yds  2 TDs

Means nothing. Have you seen Hicks play?  Not that impressive. SMU would have won 2 more games with a mobile QB. No one knows how TS would fare. If we sign GB, he's pushing for starting time from day one.

[BearsBisonsBoars]

It's 100% the kind of offense he ran at Clemson.  He adapts and plays to his strengths.

Well. There's a novel idea...

[Oklahawg]

You guys are fun! A small school QB from Arkansas is going to unseat in August drills a returning starter? Maybe get a package and ease into the role but his thing is CK's short of a grad transfer or Elite January enrollee. The entire roster is not optimal! Having the room of TEs, for example, means we will likely need a heavy package, at least.

[TheEnemy]

This thread leaves me......completely speechless.

CK will do fine in this offense.

[emdavenp]

Not sure, but I think the QB from Kentucky a few years back could have. Lorenzan, I think was his name.

Ah yes, Jared Lorenzen. the "Hefty Lefty"

[IronHog]

You guys are fun! A small school QB from Arkansas is going to unseat in August drills a returning starter? Maybe get a package and ease into the role but his thing is CK's short of a grad transfer or Elite January enrollee. The entire roster is not optimal! Having the room of TEs, for example, means we will likely need a heavy package, at least.

People put too much into *'s and dual threat BS


Bama done went dual threat and can't win the big game without their pocket passer game managers or Kiffin 😬

[RideTillIDieHawg]

2017 QB Rushing

SMU - Ben Hicks  47 rushes -79 yds  1 TD
Hogs- Cole Kelly 53 rushes - 74 yds  2 TDs

Boom.

[Nashville Fan]

No but I think a QB in Kentucky at one time ate the OL.................................

longest game in AR history. I was there. Him and Matt Jones running over everyone.

[arslp]

OK arselips, we'll get to smiting

Oh, no!!! Not the dreaded smiting!!!! Who gives a rip about your smiting? You know when you would give a rip, smiter? If he or anyone else under the influence hits your sister, kid, Mom, or you. If he doesn't have any fear of the police as a teenager or young adult, you think  an attitude like his - or yours - would foster that? You can join your little boy's club of smiting all you like.  You're still an irresponsible jerk. Smite away.

[Josh Goforth]

free safety or maybe corner back.  just needs to work on his hip flexibility, but should be able to compete with tall receivers for those 50/50 balls

Thought this was silly from the start but Kelley as a CB? Hahaha 6'7 270 out there, you playing Madden or something.

[masbas3]

I agree if he is willing to run the ball and be tough.  There was a guy named Tebow who ran the spread pretty well.

Tebow can run alot better than Kelley can.

[PorkSoda]

Thought this was silly from the start but Kelley as a CB? Hahaha 6'7 270 out there, you playing Madden or something.

Prototype CB

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Oh, no!!! Not the dreaded smiting!!!! Who gives a rip about your smiting? You know when you would give a rip, smiter? If he or anyone else under the influence hits your sister, kid, Mom, or you. If he doesn't have any fear of the police as a teenager or young adult, you think  an attitude like his - or yours - would foster that? You can join your little boy's club of smiting all you like.  You're still an irresponsible jerk. Smite away.

Yawn...

"Smite's don't bother me.!!"  Then 10 minutes later... "Mom people don't like me!""... "Whaaaaaaa!!!"

[ChitownHawg]

He can IF he becomes a "dual-threat."  Only way that happens is if he drops 25-30 pounds which would improve his overall speed/quickness.  Seeing him this season during pre-game warm-ups, in a t-shirt without the shoulder-pads on, it is obvious he could drop some weight.

Do you know the name Ben Hicks? Go look at his rushing stats as he ran only 47 times. CCM's offense doesn't have to have a dual threat QB.

[HoggyCat]

Not sure why he'd need to lose weight. 

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

Thought this was silly from the start but Kelley as a CB? Hahaha 6'7 270 out there, you playing Madden or something.

Remind's me of a team of 7 footers that I built on NCAA 04 or some darn. 400lb linemen, 300lb RB's and LB's, 260lb WR's and DB's 250lb QB, all with 99 speed..!! We Were UNSTOPPABLE.!!!  LOL.!

[ChitownHawg]

I swear,  some of y'all need to go watch some video of SMU's offense from this year. The quarterback in the Morris system at SMU is NOT a dual threat QB, he is a pro style shotgun passing QB. Cole Kelly will fit perfectly in Morris's offense with the cannon he has for an arm.. Do any  of y'all remember when Mallett ran the spread under Petrino?? He was way slower than Kelly and he ran it just fine.

Thank you Guv. If people are expecting a dual threat run offense then they will be disappointed.

Ben Hicks people.  47 rushing attempts all year. 47.

[Billy Bats]

Thank you Guv. If people are expecting a dual threat run offense then they will be disappointed.

Ben Hicks people.  47 rushing attempts all year. 47.

OC at Clemson.  Deshaun Watson.  Deshaun Watson.  He does lots of stuff. 

[ChitownHawg]

Great coaches know how to adjust around the talent they have. That's what makes high school coaching legends. Petrino had Mallett we all saw what he did with him. Then he goes to Louisville and had Jackson with a completely different skill set and we saw what he was able to do with him. Point is, if Morris is the offensive guru we all hope he is then at least on the front end, he will work with what he has and make it work. I mean if Petrino could make Casey Dick into a decent QB isn't anything possible?

Exactly. This is what I like about CCM in that his offense will not fall apart simply because he doesn't have a dual threat QB. He adapts which probably will help him survive as a HC here.

[ChitownHawg]

Watched it two years ago and wondered here why he wasn't more highly recruited.

My understanding was off the field issues.

[ChitownHawg]

OC at Clemson.  Deshaun Watson.  Deshaun Watson.  He does lots of stuff.

Do we have a DW on our roster? Or does this "He does lots of stuff" mean CCM will miraculously produce one?

[Billy Bats]

Do we have a DW on our roster?

Do we have an NFL quarterback with a torn ACL on our roster?  No.  Will Morris play the best dude at QB available to him irrespective of what he did at SMU or Clemson?  Yes. 

[Ugly Uncle]

My understanding was off the field issues.

I was in south Louisiana during his Sr. year.  I laughed when a media/radio guy from down there called him a thug and that is why LSU wasn't recruiting him.  I laughed in his face.  "Oh, so LSU has standards now?  Like they don't have players arrested almost every year for beating people in or around a bar?"  I was in a group of LSU sympathizers but I couldn't hold back my laughter and my response to how stupid that was.

Anyway, apparently there was a shooting and I believe that Cole was shot.  The media guy told me that Cole still had the bullet in him.  I don't believe that is true.  Somehow this guy made it sound like Cole and two of his buddies were at fault for getting shot at.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2015/03/19/cole-kelley-testifies-first-fontenot-trial/25019939/

EDIT:  Bullet IS still in Cole Kelley.

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/bullet-lodged-in-his-leg-new-arkansas-qb-cole-kelley-still-getting-past-shooting

[HawgHawk]

I was in south Louisiana during his Sr. year.  I laughed when a media/radio guy from down there called him a thug and that is why LSU wasn't recruiting him.  I laughed in his face.  "Oh, so LSU has standards now?  Like they don't have players arrested almost every year for beating people in or around a bar?"  I was in a group of LSU sympathizers but I couldn't hold back my laughter and my response to how stupid that was.

Anyway, apparently there was a shooting and I believe that Cole was shot.  The media guy told me that Cole still had the bullet in him.  I don't believe that is true.  Somehow this guy made it sound like Cole and two of his buddies were at fault for getting shot at.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2015/03/19/cole-kelley-testifies-first-fontenot-trial/25019939/

EDIT:  Bullet IS still in Cole Kelley.

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/bullet-lodged-in-his-leg-new-arkansas-qb-cole-kelley-still-getting-past-shooting

I lived there too at the time. Some beer was stolen out of a truck and the owner of the beer/truck shot a cpl of people. Said owner is now in prison, I believe.

[ChitownHawg]

I was in south Louisiana during his Sr. year.  I laughed when a media/radio guy from down there called him a thug and that is why LSU wasn't recruiting him.  I laughed in his face.  "Oh, so LSU has standards now?  Like they don't have players arrested almost every year for beating people in or around a bar?"  I was in a group of LSU sympathizers but I couldn't hold back my laughter and my response to how stupid that was.

Anyway, apparently there was a shooting and I believe that Cole was shot.  The media guy told me that Cole still had the bullet in him.  I don't believe that is true.  Somehow this guy made it sound like Cole and two of his buddies were at fault for getting shot at.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2015/03/19/cole-kelley-testifies-first-fontenot-trial/25019939/

EDIT:  Bullet IS still in Cole Kelley.

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/bullet-lodged-in-his-leg-new-arkansas-qb-cole-kelley-still-getting-past-shooting

I am going off memory, dangerous to do, but I recall CBB saying when they looked into the matter they didn't see a reoccurring event happening with CK. Seemed to be isolated incident.

[naturalbornpigger]

This thread is evidence of a very slow day...

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

OC at Clemson.  Deshaun Watson.  Deshaun Watson.  He does lots of stuff. 

Look at how many times Watson ran His First Year. His First Year.!! That was Morris' only year with him...

[Billy Bats]

Look at how many times Watson ran His First Year. His First Year.!! That was Morris' only year with him...

He's a threat to run.  And pass.  Dual-threat. 

[ballz2thewall]

I'm thinking he starts next year too, he can run the RPO not because of his speed, but because of his power. 

He is still raw, but just means he has a lot of room to improve.

i agree. and he's got the body/arm strength to throw the ball while taking contact or even going down [ala jamarcus russell]. he's shown that this year.

i don't think he's the runner that others seem to think, but he's adequate and not afraid.

[MuskogeeHogFan]

Exactly. This is what I like about CCM in that his offense will not fall apart simply because he doesn't have a dual threat QB. He adapts which probably will help him survive as a HC here.

The notion that he needs a DT QB is erroneous if you just look at the stats from his teams in the last year that he was at both Clemson and SMU. The RB's carried the load of running the ball, not the QB's. They were passers, not DT QB's.

[Broke Tusk]

CK will do just fine in CCM offense dude has a cannon for an arm. Can't wait for him to run and TRUCK  some safeties/ corner backs , Gona be FUN .

[ChitownHawg]

The notion that he needs a DT QB is erroneous if you just look at the stats from his teams in the last year that he was at both Clemson and SMU. The RB's carried the load of running the ball, not the QB's. They were passers, not DT QB's.

It seems some are running on the notion that all spread offense are run the same. It will be fun to see how he adapts with the current players. Especially how he works with the Oline to correct its issues.

[daprospecta]

Here is what weight loss will do.  Freshman year, 6'4 300lbs ballooned to 330 by end of semester and could barely dunk. Coaches told me to lose weight, started two-a-days at 260 and could almost do a 360 and had to run with the linebackers because I made the lineman look bad.  Weight loss can do some great things.

[Hogwild]

I was in south Louisiana during his Sr. year.  I laughed when a media/radio guy from down there called him a thug and that is why LSU wasn't recruiting him.  I laughed in his face.  "Oh, so LSU has standards now?  Like they don't have players arrested almost every year for beating people in or around a bar?"  I was in a group of LSU sympathizers but I couldn't hold back my laughter and my response to how stupid that was.

Anyway, apparently there was a shooting and I believe that Cole was shot.  The media guy told me that Cole still had the bullet in him.  I don't believe that is true.  Somehow this guy made it sound like Cole and two of his buddies were at fault for getting shot at.

http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/2015/03/19/cole-kelley-testifies-first-fontenot-trial/25019939/

EDIT:  Bullet IS still in Cole Kelley.

https://www.seccountry.com/arkansas/bullet-lodged-in-his-leg-new-arkansas-qb-cole-kelley-still-getting-past-shooting

It was during Mardi Gras at 1am , Cole was 15 and didn't have a license,  his friend was shot and died.  The shooter claim they were robbing his car again, judge only gave him 13 months.  Kelly wasn't happy with the decision.

"Y'all can clap now," an irate Kelley, 17, told Fontenot supporters as he walked out.

"Y'all can come see me," he told them before an adult shepherded the 6-foot, 7-inch teen out the courtroom door. Later Wednesday, Kelley tweeted "The Louisiana judicial system is a joke."

Fontenot, smiling and relieved after Rubin's decision, was handcuffed and whisked off by deputies. Guilbeau said he could be processed for the state Department of Corrections in Allen Parish, and that Fontenot would not be sent to the Louisiana State Penitentiary at Angola.

http://www.theadvocate.com/acadiana/news/article_a6d04eb5-637b-5a54-99b9-76953da8693a.html

Later came out the shooter dealt drugs at the high school out of the trunk of his car. Busted by the local police, not sure how much jail time he got for that.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

The notion that he needs a DT QB is erroneous if you just look at the stats from his teams in the last year that he was at both Clemson and SMU. The RB's carried the load of running the ball, not the QB's. They were passers, not DT QB's.

Which is the problem with CK.  I like the kid but he is not an accurate mid and deep passer. 

[TexArkHogFan]

My understanding was off the field issues.

You guys crack me up.  Ryan Mallett had off the field issues all the way back to high school.  Of course it was all covered up but it was no secret he was known as a thug.  Good luck with converting Kelley to another position.  You saw what happened when Nutt wanted to convert Mallett.

[bphi11ips]

The notion that he needs a DT QB is erroneous if you just look at the stats from his teams in the last year that he was at both Clemson and SMU. The RB's carried the load of running the ball, not the QB's. They were passers, not DT QB's.

I posted numbers in another thread for Morris's numbers during the Clemson years. Yes. The running load is on the TB, and he doesn't rotate them the way Bielema does. He had a 1000 yard feature back every year at Clemson. But Tahj Boyd was a dual threat QB and so was Deshaun Watson. Boyd rushed for almost 1200 yards and 25 TDs in 3 years as the starter. He also threw for almost 12,000 yards in a vertical passing offense that used a lot of play action. Watson was a true freshman and was not the starter for most of his only year with Morris. Much has been made of the fact he ran for only 200 yards that year. He only passed for 1000. He scored 5 rushing TDs.

Morris's offense is based on a QB who is a threat to run. Otherwise the read option at the LOS doesn't work and neither does the vertical game. It is not Mullen's offense, but it is nothing like Kingsbury or Leach's, either. It is closest to Malzahn's and works best with a Newton, or a Marshall or a Boyd or a Watson running it. That is why Morris wants Bohannon. He built his SMU offense around his best QB, and that's what he'll do at Arkansas.  Kelley is probably that guy next year. Look for something like what Snyder did with Klein at K-State.

Look at Clemson's stats for 2011-14 and you'll see what I mean.