Props to every poster on here........

[Pigstie]

Who had the audacity to even question JC or his philosophy with CBB. Many of your threads have been locked this season because you even questioned our OC. He now leaves and its either because CBB did not think he was warranted a raise or didn't want him at all. Kudos to all of you!  :razorback:

[Doug]

This thread + OP =

[Großer Kriegschwein]

You the man Douglas. Couldn't have said it better.

[popcornhog]

Who had the audacity to even question JC or his philosophy with CBB. Many of your threads have been locked this season because you even questioned our OC. He now leaves and its either because CBB did not think he was warranted a raise or didn't want him at all. Kudos to all of you!  :razorback:

Its not like the OP needed it's use of proper grammar to make a pointless post.

[Hog1966]

In before "Who is Pigstie"

[Pigstie]

In before "Who is Pigstie"

I'm the one who has gotten 4 emails in the last hour regarding my post. It's a shame so many aren't even posting opinions anymore for fear of being banned.

[Pigstie]

Its not like the OP needed it's use of proper grammar to make a pointless post.

So thee gramer nazee makes anuther grate cuntribution to a post,;

[BigSexyHog]

That's hogville for you.   We eat our own.  Sad but true.

[Bebop]

Being reasonable, respectable, and keeping an open mind to correction goes a long way in keeping a thread unlocked. Attack the argument not the person. And yes, I did criticize Chaney hoping that the problems that we had would get corrected. I think our offense made incremental progress. We had 2nd half problems the entire season and it never got better.

[Pigstie]

That's hogville for you.   We eat our own.  Sad but true.

Is what it is...... I started the post simply because so many threads locked and so many opinions of JC shot to hell this year, mine included. Now it seems many were on to something all along. I think it's a valid point.... but oh well.

[Pigstie]

Being reasonable, respectable, and keeping an open mind to correction goes a long way in keeping a thread unlocked. Attack the argument not the person. And yes, I did criticize Chaney hoping that the problems that we had would get corrected. I think our offense made incremental progress. We had 2nd half problems the entire season and it never got better.

+1

[bruisemeister]

I guess I don't read enough posts? Are we glad hes gone or not? I heard a conservative commentator on the radio this morning commenting on the rumor. He was telling the person giving him the news "not to lead him on" and  that he didn't know which was better: JC leaving or the Republican victories in November.
Then I read posts and it says we are going to lose big recruits and he is going to take some of our key assistants.

Which is it? Glad hes gone, wish he stayed, I don't care?

[lechon]

I'm the one who has gotten 4 emails in the last hour regarding my post. It's a shame so many aren't even posting opinions anymore for fear of being banned.

+10000000000

[alohawg]

I complained about Chaney plenty during the season and rightfully so. No doubt in my mind Arkansas can do better and will.

[pigture perfect]

I hate that BA has to learn another system in his senior year. We were set to have a tremendous year. Still might, but now we will have more questions than answers. If nothing else, it will drive Hogville until the middle of September.

[alohawg]

PP- I think we'll have to sit back and trust the head hog on this stuff. I suspect these moves were in the master plan for a while. CBB wants next year to be every bit as successful as we do and is in a position to make the tweeks he sees as necessary towards that end.

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

PP- I think we'll have to sit back and trust the head hog on this stuff. I suspect these moves were in the master plan for a while. CBB wants next year to be every bit as successful as we do and is in a position to make the tweeks he sees as necessary towards that end.

^This^
We are still in transition of the coaching changes and don't know how we will fair in the end. I don't know of any key assistants that we have lost since JC left, the only thing that I have heard is that CBB was able to secure raises for ALL of the assistants that he asked for. We haven't lost any recruits either, but it could happen and only one has mentioned that it "might" play a part in his decision. BTW, recruiting in Florida sure has been good in the last 12 hours. WPS!

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

I hate that BA has to learn another system in his senior year. We were set to have a tremendous year. Still might, but now we will have more questions than answers. If nothing else, it will drive Hogville until the middle of September.

Pigture, I think BA will learn any new system quickly, he is a coaches son, so I doubt there is much that he hasn't seen or heard at some point in his career. Lord knows he's already seen some changes as a Razorback.

[Mike Irwin]

Threads on Jim Chaney were not locked until there had been a good year and a half of complaining about him by the same people. The point you and others were making was well established. There was virtually nothing else that could have been posted about the man.

It was starting to drive most of the people reading and posting here up a wall. The position the mods took was simple. Until there is a change on the staff at that position the complaining was going to stop. If there was a legitimate reason for Chaney to be gone either by his own choice or by Bielema then the situation would take care of itself.

I'm sure the OP and those he's referring to consider themselves heroes. Like the evil Houston Nutt, they've gotten rid of another bad guy who was holding the Razorbacks back. Well Chaney is not Nutt. He's just a coach who was doing his job. Now there will be another coach who will do that job.

I hope he gets a better reception here.

Lanny, Doug and the other people who manage this board have a thankless job. I know them. I like them and as one of the few people in the media willing to post on a message board I applaud them.

They are not bad guys. They are the people that have made this place one of the top fan boards in college athletics.

[ZERO]

I hope he gets a better reception here.

Must. Resist. Low. Hanging. Fruit.

[OneTuskOverTheLine™]

I complained about Chaney plenty during the season and rightfully so. No doubt in my mind Arkansas can do better and will.

Complaining/flaming two different puppies...

[A_R_K_A_N_S_A_S]

Lanny, Doug and the other people who manage this board have a thankless job. I know them. I like them and as one of the few people in the media willing to post on a message board I applaud them.

They are not bad guys. They are the people that have made this place one of the top fan boards in college athletics.

MI, whether Hogvillians always agree with you or not, I'm sure most appreciate you posting and sharing on this board, I know I do. And, you are right about Lanny and those that manage this board. It's easy to forget what they do, as we have no idea what they do behind the scenes and often make tough decisions to try to keep this board one of the best in the country. Thanks guys!

[Pigstie]

Threads on Jim Chaney were not locked until there had been a good year and a half of complaining about him by the same people. The point you and others were making was well established. There was virtually nothing else that could have been posted about the man.

It was starting to drive most of the people reading and posting here up a wall. The position the mods took was simple. Until there is a change on the staff at that position the complaining was going to stop. If there was a legitimate reason for Chaney to be gone either by his own choice or by Bielema then the situation would take care of itself.

I'm sure the OP and those he's referring to consider themselves heroes. Like the evil Houston Nutt, they've gotten rid of another bad guy who was holding the Razorbacks back. Well Chaney is not Nutt. He's just a coach who was doing his job. Now there will be another coach who will do that job.

I hope he gets a better reception here.

Lanny, Doug and the other people who manage this board have a thankless job. I know them. I like them and as one of the few people in the media willing to post on a message board I applaud them.

They are not bad guys. They are the people that have made this place one of the top fan boards in college athletics.

Oh give me a break Mike.... It's a long season with a lot of offensive plays. So yeah... a lot of conversations are going to turn into the OC and the QB. Not rocket science. As far as the same people complaining over and over, I don't know. I Didn't pay attention to threads I wasn't interested in at any given time.  I simply asked you a question mid season about the philosophy between the two coaches... because I saw telling signs, and you immediately shot it down and reminded me that JC wasn't going anywhere, and then of course the tread is locked. You are flawed in your thinking if you think anyone feels like a "hero" because our OC has left. There wasn't a concerned effort by a large group to fire the man. Anyone who seeks that kind of validity from a msg board has more issues than I care to discuss. Lanny was the first person to even teach me the game of football on Lakeshore Drive  when I was 5 yrs old. No one appreciates, or is more proud of his job than me. 

[Choctaw Hog]

Who had the audacity to even question JC or his philosophy with CBB. Many of your threads have been locked this season because you even questioned our OC. He now leaves and its either because CBB did not think he was warranted a raise or didn't want him at all. Kudos to all of you!  :razorback:

The threads were locked because they were worthless drivel posted by ignorant fans.  And please explain how someone with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on a subject question the actions of an expert? The short answer is they shouldn't because it just makes then look like the fools they are. 

Regardless of who Bielema brings in to replace Chaney the fact remains that Coach Chaney craps more football knowledge everyday than you and his other detractors collectively know.

So, props to the Hog Fans who support all our coaches and appreciate all the time and effort they put in to put so they can put a quality product on the field.     

[Pigstie]

The threads were locked because they were worthless drivel posted by ignorant fans.  And please explain how someone with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on a subject question the actions of an expert? The short answer is they shouldn't because it just makes then look like the fools they are. 

Regardless of who Bielema brings in to replace Chaney the fact remains that Coach Chaney craps more football knowledge everyday than you and his other detractors collectively know.

So, props to the Hog Fans who support all our coaches and appreciate all the time and effort they put in to put so they can put a quality product on the field.     

Said the "smart" fan.

[Ex-Trumpet]

The threads were locked because they were worthless drivel posted by ignorant fans.  And please explain how someone with absolutely no knowledge whatsoever on a subject question the actions of an expert? The short answer is they shouldn't because it just makes then look like the fools they are.,,,     

Good grief...MMQB wouldn't exist if all the ignorant posters never questioned an expert's actions. 

There would be maybe a half-dozen posters stroking each other telling each other what an expert they were.  Until one of the experts disagreed with another expert.  Then one would get bant for being an idiot and there would be only five posters left.  And no sponsors.

[Choctaw Hog]

Oh give me a break Mike.... It's a long season with a lot of offensive plays. So yeah... a lot of conversations are going to turn into the OC and the QB. Not rocket science. As far as the same people complaining over and over, I don't know. I Didn't pay attention to threads I wasn't interested in at any given time.  I simply asked you a question mid season about the philosophy between the two coaches... because I saw telling signs, and you immediately shot it down and reminded me that JC wasn't going anywhere, and then of course the tread is locked. You are flawed in your thinking if you think anyone feels like a "hero" because our OC has left. There wasn't a concerned effort by a large group to fire the man. Anyone who seeks that kind of validity from a msg board has more issues than I care to discuss. Lanny was the first person to even teach me the game of football on Lakeshore Drive  when I was 5 yrs old. No one appreciates, or is more proud of his job than me. 

Oh give us a break.  What Mike posted is absolutely true and if you take offense to it then that's just too damn bad. These so called fans get on here and are relentless with their worthless drivel questioning everything and that gets old really quick. 

And the pathetic thing about those criticizing someone like Jim Chaney wouldn't know the difference between a bubble screen and bubble bath but they act like they do.  That's why threads are locked.   

[Dominicanhog]

Lanny was the first person to even teach me the game of football on Lakeshore Drive  when I was 5 yrs old.

Was that last year?  You're like the rooster who thinks the sun came up because he crowed... you have no idea why Chaney left or if CBB was blindsided..

[Choctaw Hog]

Good grief...MMQB wouldn't exist if all the ignorant posters never questioned an expert's actions. 

There would be maybe a half-dozen posters stroking each other telling each other what an expert they were.  Until one of the experts disagreed with another expert.  Then one would get bant for being an idiot and there would be only five posters left.  And no sponsors.

Good grief....yes they would.  At one time message boards were places fans could get accurate, up-to-date information about their team, not worthless, ignorant opinions from so-called fans.  Otherwise they would commonly be called Opinion Boards instead of Message Boards. 

[Mike Irwin]

Oh give me a break Mike.... It's a long season with a lot of offensive plays. So yeah... a lot of conversations are going to turn into the OC and the QB. Not rocket science. As far as the same people complaining over and over, I don't know. I Didn't pay attention to threads I wasn't interested in at any given time.  I simply asked you a question mid season about the philosophy between the two coaches... because I saw telling signs, and you immediately shot it down and reminded me that JC wasn't going anywhere, and then of course the tread is locked. You are flawed in your thinking if you think anyone feels like a "hero" because our OC has left. There wasn't a concerned effort by a large group to fire the man. Anyone who seeks that kind of validity from a msg board has more issues than I care to discuss. Lanny was the first person to even teach me the game of football on Lakeshore Drive  when I was 5 yrs old. No one appreciates, or is more proud of his job than me.

You need to go back and read what you posted and ponder Doug's response. You may indeed be pals with Lanny but this thread was an in-your-face shot at those who locked threads on Chaney and Brandon Allen.

Plain and simple the threads were locked after a clear explanation of why they were going to be locked. There was no attempt to censor opinions. Those opinions were expressed on a daily basis for months and not by the majority posting here but by a small group of people that wanted a staff change. They got their point across.

[DeltaBoy]

Thanks MIKE!

[Pigstie]

You need to go back and read what you posted and ponder Doug's response. You may indeed be pals with Lanny but this thread was an in-your-face shot at those who locked threads on Chaney and Brandon Allen.

Plain and simple the threads were locked after a clear explanation of why they were going to be locked. There was no attempt to censor opinions. Those opinions were expressed on a daily basis for months and not by the majority posting here but by a small group of people that wanted a staff change. They got their point across.

All due respect.... the thread was recognizing the questions and debates that I and some others raised. If any of the admin takes it as a " in your face shot"... that was not the intention. It was a shot at the large group that think if you are not an "expert", you're opinions don't belong here. As I mentioned.. if there was a small group wanting a staff change, I was not one of them, nor did I pay that any attention.

[Biggus Piggus]

We don't even know why Chaney's out. Regardless, it is an opportunity to improve the team. Not a certainty, but an opportunity.

[Pigstie]

Was that last year?  You're like the rooster who thinks the sun came up because he crowed... you have no idea why Chaney left or if CBB was blindsided..

Read CBB's tweet and you will have your answer. The rooster thing was stupid.

[popcornhog]

So thee gramer nazee makes anuther grate cuntribution to a post,;

I guess the irony was missed on you.

[Biggus Piggus]

BTW, happy birthday Jim Chaney. His birthday is today.

[Pigstie]

We don't even know why Chaney's out. Regardless, it is an opportunity to improve the team. Not a certainty, but an opportunity.

True... we don't know why he is out, but we do know it is with CBB's blessing. This is another opportunity for CBB to earn his $$.  I have complete faith in him.

[Biggus Piggus]

True... we don't know why he is out, but we do know it is with CBB's blessing. This is another opportunity for CBB to earn his $$.  I have complete faith in him.

Plenty of people -- including me -- managed to express their concerns about the offense without flying off the handle and getting muzzled. The people who were hammered down were the ones who intentionally posted repetitive flamebait and disrupted threads where people were trying to converse. If you don't know how to have a discussion, you're going to get ban-hammered.

[Pigstie]

I guess the irony was missed on you.

No, the irony is that you wouldn't correct my grammar in person... so why a msg board?

[Dr. Starcs]

+1 to the op.

I asked Mike a couple of days ago to give us his honest assessment of what kind of coach he believed Jim Cheney is/was since he has access to the program that the majority of us do not. And I got no response.

[The Hogfather]

I hate that BA has to learn another system in his senior year. We were set to have a tremendous year. Still might, but now we will have more questions than answers. If nothing else, it will drive Hogville until the middle of September.

This is my ONLY problem with losing Chaney right now.

[hogsanity]

I'm the one who has gotten 4 emails in the last hour regarding my post. It's a shame so many aren't even posting opinions anymore for fear of being banned.

Threads do not get locked for posting an opinion. Threads get locked because:

1. It gets personal

2. It is the same thread that has been started 400 times

3. It is a thread about something that has already been locked, only done so in a slightly different way to try to make it look different.

[popcornhog]

No, the irony is that you wouldn't correct my grammar in person... so why a msg board?

I was merely responding to an absurd post with an absurd post. Right over your head.

Also, it would be impossible to correct the use of an apostrophe in person unless we were passing notes back and forth.

[Biggus Piggus]

I would correct your grammar in person. Then I'd know you truly were ignorant, rather than just trying to type on a smartphone.

[Mike Irwin]

+1 to the op.

I asked Mike a couple of days ago to give us his honest assessment of what kind of coach he believed Jim Cheney is/was since he has access to the program that the majority of us do not. And I got no response.

If you ask around you'll find that I answer almost every question I get. I get a lot of them so I can't always respond immediately. However what does that have to do with the OP?

[Rawland Watson]

I was thinking Chaney might be in trouble when I was at the game in Houston and our offense look exactly like it did all year with no new wrinkles in it. it seems like he never made any changes even when we had bowl practice for 3 weeks the offense look the same.

[Mike Irwin]

I was thinking Chaney might be in trouble when I was at the game in Houston and our offense look exactly like it did all year with no new wrinkles in it. it seems like he never made any changes even when we had bowl practice for 3 weeks the offense look the same.

Maybe but going into that game the one thing Arkansas coaches worried about was Texas' secondary. It was supposedly the best in the Big 12.

Arkansas broke that game open with two TD passes in the 2nd quarter. In other words they went right at Texas' strength and won. Hard for me to believe that Bielema had an issue with Chaney's game plan or play calling in the Texas Bowl.

[Doug]

I want to note, for the record, that I initially locked this after my reply and was in the process of tossing this into Vents.

I changed my mind in order to let this flow, so that others could weigh in with their "ejumekaytud" and educated opinions.

I think we know which version applies to which people in this thread.

[Tim Harris]

Lanny, Doug and the other people who manage this board have a thankless job. I know them. I like them and as one of the few people in the media willing to post on a message board I applaud them.

And I'm still amazed that you chose to do the bolded part.

[PorkRinds]

I can't understand giving someone props for bashing coaches throughout the season.