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hogsanity

I would like to see the clock rules used for out of bounds be applied to incomplete passes as well. Once the ball is spotted, the ref stars the clock ( except in the last two minute of each half). This would cut several minutes of standing around time from each game.
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ballz2thewall

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pignparadise

Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 10:16:47 am
I would like to see the clock rules used for out of bounds be applied to incomplete passes as well. Once the ball is spotted, the ref stars the clock ( except in the last two minute of each half). This would cut several minutes of standing around time from each game.
Not going to happen. would make games shorter which means less commercials. Espn has an unofficial influence on the rules. TV is a cash cow for college football.
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hogsanity

Quote from: pignparadise on December 30, 2014, 12:23:09 pm
Not going to happen. would make games shorter which means less commercials. Espn has an unofficial influence on the rules. TV is a cash cow for college football.

Still wouldn't impact the breaks for commercials. All it would impact is the time the announcers are filling between snaps.
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BorderPatrol

Quote from: pignparadise on December 30, 2014, 12:23:09 pm
Not going to happen. would make games shorter which means less commercials. Espn has an unofficial influence on the rules. TV is a cash cow for college football.

I dunno....90% of the college games are running over, time wise. This could be very beneficial to both fans and advertisers...

bp

hogsanity

Quote from: BorderPatrol on December 30, 2014, 02:22:19 pm
I dunno....90% of the college games are running over, time wise. This could be very beneficial to both fans and advertisers...

bp

used to be they alotted 3hrs and 5 minutes for a game when they had a double header on, and occasionally you would miss the 1st minute or two of the 2nd game, then you started missing the entire 1st Q, so they went to 31/2 hrs alotted for a game. Now, even with that, the 2nd game routinely is in the middle of the 1st Q before the 1st game is over.
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

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The_Iceman

Not a bad idea.

I'd like to see the Targeting rule defined more. It needs to be vicious hits, where the defender clearly leads with his helmet.

Some of these calls are just weak.

pignparadise

Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 02:43:20 pm
used to be they alotted 3hrs and 5 minutes for a game when they had a double header on, and occasionally you would miss the 1st minute or two of the 2nd game, then you started missing the entire 1st Q, so they went to 31/2 hrs alotted for a game. Now, even with that, the 2nd game routinely is in the middle of the 1st Q before the 1st game is over.
Espn starts the game over on ESPN news or classic so the entire game is televised with commercials. If you shorten the game you have less possessions hence less times between possessions which is where commercials come in.
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Mike_e

I'd like to see any bogus call made against the Hogs be a capital offense.



Your idea is good too.


Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 10:16:47 am
I would like to see the clock rules used for out of bounds be applied to incomplete passes as well. Once the ball is spotted, the ref stars the clock ( except in the last two minute of each half). This would cut several minutes of standing around time from each game.
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SquidBilly

Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 10:16:47 am
I would like to see the clock rules used for out of bounds be applied to incomplete passes as well. Once the ball is spotted, the ref stars the clock ( except in the last two minute of each half). This would cut several minutes of standing around time from each game.

I thought that is what the playclock was for.  Personally I think passing plays should be treated like run plays where the clock doesn't stop except for after a first down for the chains to reset.  Used to be the same ball would have to be sent back to the original spot by the referees after an incomplete pass and that could result in quite a few seconds running off for the reset depending on how far downfield the pass was thrown.  Now they just get a new ball from the sidelines and send the old one off so that element of time is greatly reduced and the rule to stop the clock is no longer necessary.

Danny J

Down by contact only like the NFL is the biggest one followed by pass interference being a spot foul

thirrdegreetusker

Quote from: The_Iceman on December 30, 2014, 02:54:39 pm
Not a bad idea.

I'd like to see the Targeting rule defined more. It needs to be vicious hits, where the defender clearly leads with his helmet.

Some of these calls are just weak.

Agree. Out of all the "targeting" penalties (and ejections) I have seen, I think maybe 10% are truly deserved, in my opinion. They expect freaky-fast men to make decisions in slow-motion.

Dr. Starcs

I'd like to see college go to NFL clock rules (clock doesn't stop on first downs.)

 

HSVhogfan2

Change the targeting rule to launching. If you don't lead with your head intentionally then its no foul. Hell, anything from the pads up is targeting in some cases.
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arkmark

I'll take a review of the rule  called on the Hogs for slapping the helmet of the Texass QB.  Today, I'm chuckling about it when almost on every TD scored in the games result in the scoring player returning to the sidelines only to be head slapped by 15 to 20 players and half of the coaching staff, much of which was as hard or harder.  Doesn't seem to concern to many.

BOAR_N2BWILD

I would like to see the rule change in the NCAA to the rule of the NFL in regard to a player being down if his knee is down with no contact he may advance the ball.
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EastexHawg

Quote from: arkmark on December 30, 2014, 08:23:38 pm
I'll take a review of the rule  called on the Hogs for slapping the helmet of the Texass QB.  Today, I'm chuckling about it when almost on every TD scored in the games result in the scoring player returning to the sidelines only to be head slapped by 15 to 20 players and half of the coaching staff, much of which was as hard or harder.  Doesn't seem to concern to many.

I agree.  It's not football when a rusher gets flagged for 15 yards because he tries to block the pass and when his hand comes down it grazes the head of the QB...who is typically a 6'3", 230 pound man wearing a freaking helmet and face mask on his dome.

rzrbackrob

Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 10:16:47 am
I would like to see the clock rules used for out of bounds be applied to incomplete passes as well. Once the ball is spotted, the ref stars the clock ( except in the last two minute of each half). This would cut several minutes of standing around time from each game.

This would be a good rule change.

Would also like to see the refs be given time to place the ball down and get fully out of the way before starting the clock. The hurry-up offenses that try to force the ref to place the ball down and run for his life are silly. Jameis Winston pushing the ref out of the way during a game this year was ridiculous.
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Hoggish1

Quote from: pignparadise on December 30, 2014, 12:23:09 pm
Not going to happen. would make games shorter which means less commercials. Espn has an unofficial influence on the rules. TV is a cash cow for college football.

Probably so since $ rules everything these days.

One rule I'd like to see is player not down until contact is made by defender.

Rzbakfromwaybak


mentioned this is another thread.

I would like to see pass interference & holding by the DB's, really enforced.

DB's are holding & grabbing receivers on half of the pass plays.  See it all the time. Sometimes it's called, often it's not.  It needs to be called each time it happens, not just part of the time.  Either call it every time, or do away with the rule.  When a DB is reaching for a receiver, it's usually obvious, & it's not because he wants a handshake. It's not that hard to catch. Too often, this violation is getting ignored......& it's getting worse each year.  Maybe after the 2nd penalty of this nature, the 3rd one should be a 20 yarder, etc.  Somehow, this needs to be enforced better. If we need another ref in the secondary, or need to use instant replay to do this, so be it.  Just enforce the rule.
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Elrod

I think ref should have a quicker whistle when a runners progress has been stopped. Many times 2 or 3 defenders will hold up a runner and another 1 or 2 will come in only trying to punch or jerk the ball out of his hands to cause a fumble.  I see no need to allow defenders to push a runner 6 to 8 yards backwards, pawing at him all the while. Blow the play dead and if the defenders continue call a personal foul on them.

hogsanity

After watching a ton of football the last 2 weeks, I have a new rule I would like to see, any player making the " throw a flag " gesture, would automatically get their wish, a 15 yarder for unsportsmanlike conduct.
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EastexHawg

Quote from: hogsanity on January 05, 2015, 03:55:46 pm
After watching a ton of football the last 2 weeks, I have a new rule I would like to see, any player making the " throw a flag " gesture, would automatically get their wish, a 15 yarder for unsportsmanlike conduct.

I agree.  Every receiver who doesn't catch the pass comes up with the "pulling flag from belt" gesture.  It's ridiculous.  I would like to see the nearest official come back with a "place hands together and catch the ball" or "zip your mouth shut" signal.

Pigdiana Jones

Quote from: hogsanity on December 30, 2014, 02:03:58 pm
Still wouldn't impact the breaks for commercials. All it would impact is the time the announcers are filling between snaps.

Less time to have to listen to Verne and Gary? I like it.
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idochog

I'm in favor of penalizing the throw the flag gesture
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demonHOG1013

Lets just change all of the rules and play flag football and not keep score. The targeting rule is stupid. Football is a collision sport. Dont like it dont play.

hogsanity

Quote from: demonHOG1013 on January 06, 2015, 08:05:53 am
Lets just change all of the rules and play flag football and not keep score. The targeting rule is stupid. Football is a collision sport. Don't like it don't play.

Still plenty of collisions without launching yourself, head down, into an opponent. Tackle head up, with your shoulder, you know with proper technique, and it is not a problem. Players know the rule, it has been around for two or three years now. Don't like it, don't play.
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

"Anything goes wrong, anything at all, your fault, my fault, nobodies fault, I'm going to blow your head off."  John Wayne in BIG JAKE

GuvHog

They should do away with that stupid excessive celebration rule and enact a taunting rule instead. It's getting to where the slightest celebration is flagged.
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Hawgzinbowlz


Change the 'fumble through the end zone is a touchback with the defensive team taking possession', to the fumbling offensive team receives a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the fumble and the offensive team retains possession with 1st and 10 at that spot. Excessive penalty for a team that has been successfully marching the ball down the field. If the ball goes out of bounds on the field of play sideline, after a fumble, the penalty isn't nearly as severe for the fumbling offensive team.

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southeasthog

Quote from: Hawgzinbowlz on January 09, 2015, 06:38:11 pm
Change the 'fumble through the end zone is a touchback with the defensive team taking possession', to the fumbling offensive team receives a 15 yard penalty from the spot of the fumble and the offensive team retains possession with 1st and 10 at that spot. Excessive penalty for a team that has been successfully marching the ball down the field. If the ball goes out of bounds on the field of play sideline, after a fumble, the penalty isn't nearly as severe for the fumbling offensive team.

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I like this except I would say keep whatever down the team would have had. No reason to give a complete do over.

ICEman

I would like to see forward progress matched to the referee's whistle and the progress to be determined by a GPS chip implanted inside the football. =)
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Bacons Rebellion

I've agreed with this a long time. There is no longer any reason for the clock to stop after the ball is set for play. Much like the conclusion they came to on out of bounds plays.

Let the play clock run from the end of the pass. Let the game clock run from the spot.

It also pretty much gets rid of the tactic of spiking the ball -- which, if you think about it, is a pretty silly game artifact.

It actually would give passing teams an advantage from where they are now because they could pass the ball with a lead late in the game without worrying that they aren't running out the clock.

I do like the college rule that clocks stop on first downs. The team can't play because the chain gang can't get their act together, its not the team's fault. The fact that the chain gang are athletic young sprinters or fat, slow, middle aged guys shouldn't affect the game.

Hawgzinbowlz

Quote from: southeasthog on January 10, 2015, 08:05:50 am
I like this except I would say keep whatever down the team would have had. No reason to give a complete do over.
Either way is an improvement over a change of possession. The 15 yard penalty from the spot of the fumble is a fairly substantial distance.
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ErieHog

Another rule change to give you less football?  I can't say I'd like it.

Time wise,  they're never going to be satisfied.   Game won't fit a 3 hour program window?  Cut advertising, if it is that much of a premium to you.   Don't want to cut advertising?  Then game length isn't the problem.
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razorbackkid

I'd like to see a change in the rule where the football only has to break the front edge of the endzone line.  To me it is not a touchdown unless the ball actually gets into the endzone.  Change it to the back edge at least.
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longpig

Quote from: arkmark on December 30, 2014, 08:23:38 pm
I'll take a review of the rule  called on the Hogs for slapping the helmet of the Texass QB.  Today, I'm chuckling about it when almost on every TD scored in the games result in the scoring player returning to the sidelines only to be head slapped by 15 to 20 players and half of the coaching staff, much of which was as hard or harder.  Doesn't seem to concern to many.
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online-with-swine

I would like the prairie dog offense outlawed.  Once the linemen take their position and stance on the line, they can't move.  All calls to the line have to originate from the qb and not from the sideline.

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hogsanity

Quote from: ErieHog on January 10, 2015, 09:29:52 am
Another rule change to give you less football?  I can't say I'd like it.

Time wise,  they're never going to be satisfied.   Game won't fit a 3 hour program window?  Cut advertising, if it is that much of a premium to you.   Don't want to cut advertising?  Then game length isn't the problem.

Doesn't give less football. Just less down time between plays
People ask me what I do in winter when there is no baseball.  I will tell you what I do. I stare out the window, and I wait for spring.

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ErieHog

Quote from: hogsanity on January 11, 2015, 04:37:59 pm
Doesn't give less football. Just less down time between plays

It does give you less football; the more the clock moves, the more of game time is spent moving down the field, and lining up for plays,  rather than players moving and setting for additional plays, without the clock moving.     That's why NFL games inside of 2 minutes are noticeably shorter than college games-- more things keep the clock moving.

No cause, ever, in the history of all mankind, has produced more cold-blooded tyrants, more slaughtered innocents, and more orphans than socialism with power. It surpassed, exponentially, all other systems of production in turning out the dead. The bodies are all around us. And here is the problem: No one talks about them. No one honors them. No one does penance for them. No one has committed suicide for having been an apologist for those who did this to them. No one pays for them. No one is hunted down to account for them. It is exactly what Solzhenitsyn foresaw in The Gulag Archipelago: "No, no one would have to answer. No one would be looked into." Until that happens, there is no "after socialism."