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Have y'all watched Mitch's Tweets today?

Started by Razorback Pastor, December 03, 2017, 03:55:02 pm

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Razorback Pastor

Man, he is laying it out there and, it doesn't feel bitter to me at all. He HAS said somethings that sure shed light on "somethings" though! I for one am happy he is. We need to heal and move forward as a fan base.  And it sure feels like we haven't but, that this might very well help us do that.

I understand if you don't feel that way but, it doesn't feel like "Arkansas" the way it used to to me and, I want that back!

Styflin


 

Martygit

Based on his tweets yesterday and today, I wish he'd write a book about his time here
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KlubhouseKonnected

Yesterday he was all in the right and just brushing off idiots.
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Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 04:08:44 pm
Based on his tweets yesterday and today, I wish he'd write a book about his time here

Would love that.
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3kgthog

If only the egos of Nutt and Gus could've gotten along, we might've at least won an SEC Championship with the talent on campus at the time. Neither looked out for the kids and it's apparent some like Mitch are still haunted by it even though he'd never admit it.

Razorback Pastor

This is an exchange he just had.


Mitch Mustain‏
@MitchMustain
2m2 minutes ago
More Mitch Mustain Retweeted Josh Hilton
That is a tiny fraction of it all, but yes. I was in no position to be playing with RoJo available and CD on the mend, each more experienced and the staff having no extended development plan.Mitch Mustain added,
Josh Hilton

@DagCarson
Replying to @MitchMustain
As I understand it, you were upset that your redshirt was burned your freshman year at ARK? Is that accurate?
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NuttinItUp

Quote from: Styflin on December 03, 2017, 03:58:36 pm
Post them for the non Twitter folks

You can read them here even if you don't have a Twitter account:

https://twitter.com/MitchMustain

Martygit

This is an interesting one:

Was it coincidence that after I left the team in Jan, final papers from the fall sem disappeared and grades changed? That TAs I was in comms with about it disappeared? That after a phone call to HDN with a few details some people might find intriguing, my profs "found" my papers?Mitch Mustain added,
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Dropkick

Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere

razortrack

time changes things. Many things don't feel the same.

Razorback Pastor

Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 04:28:10 pm
This is an interesting one:

Was it coincidence that after I left the team in Jan, final papers from the fall sem disappeared and grades changed? That TAs I was in comms with about it disappeared? That after a phone call to HDN with a few details some people might find intriguing, my profs "found" my papers?Mitch Mustain added,



I agree. He is "saying" some stuff without "SAYING" some stuff.

Martygit

Quote from: Razorback Pastor on December 03, 2017, 04:34:57 pm

I agree. He is "saying" some stuff without "SAYING" some stuff.

Reading between the lines, he suggests that the university, including the FB administration which was influencing some of the academics, was attempting to keep him from transferring somewhere else by making it seem that he hadn't completed the fall semester.
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Roy Bacon

Quote from: Dropkick on December 03, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere

Stellar career ? what are you talking about ?
Just say no to the forward facing Hog !

dfwalumdad

Quote from: Dropkick on December 03, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere

back up QB at USC? he wasn't even an UDFA. he'd kill for brandon allen's career.

you're kidding right?

Dropkick

Quote from: dfwalumdad on December 03, 2017, 04:45:52 pm
back up QB at USC? he wasn't even an UDFA. he'd kill for brandon allen's career.

you're kidding right?
Haha, yes. I thought the sarcasm is implied.

dfwalumdad


buldozer

I think this kid was a spoiled brat hiding behind momma's skirt. And I really supported him while he was playing until all the negative stuff came out. I think he is still spoiled and posting sour grapes is what I seen yesterday. Lots of hate for UA in that kid... he should move on and stop sulking. He must be miserable stuck in the past.

Razorback Pastor

Quote from: buldozer on December 03, 2017, 04:55:46 pm
I think this kid was a spoiled brat hiding behind momma's skirt. And I really supported him while he was playing until all the negative stuff came out. I think he is still spoiled and posting sour grapes is what I seen yesterday. Lots of hate for UA in that kid... he should move on and stop sulking. He must be miserable stuck in the past.

I disagree. I haven't gathered that from his tweets AT ALL!

jimmiewkersh

What Mitch is saying between the lines is exactly why Gus will never return to coach the Razorbacks.  Not enough time has passed and not enough people crossing over the river Jordan. 


DeltaBoy

Quote from: Dropkick on December 03, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere
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theFlyingHog

Quote from: Dropkick on December 03, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere
Don't worry about it, I got your post loud and clear. I won't rip on those who need the /s

theFlyingHog

Quote from: buldozer on December 03, 2017, 04:55:46 pm
I think this kid was a spoiled brat hiding behind momma's skirt. And I really supported him while he was playing until all the negative stuff came out. I think he is still spoiled and posting sour grapes is what I seen yesterday. Lots of hate for UA in that kid... he should move on and stop sulking. He must be miserable stuck in the past.
Sounds to me like he got screwed over more than I had realized, and I thought it was pretty bad. Reaffirms my feelings for Hooter

ShadowHawg

How many of you haters could be prosperous after taking an orchestrated skull fricking from some of the most powerful men in your home state...... at age 18?

Heck, you guys can't even handle disagreements on a fan board.

 

leroyhawg

Quote from: 3kgthog on December 03, 2017, 04:17:34 pm
If only the egos of Nutt and Gus could've gotten along, we might've at least won an SEC Championship with the talent on campus at the time. Neither looked out for the kids and it's apparent some like Mitch are still haunted by it even though he'd never admit it.
not many coaches bench an 8 an 0 QB.
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majestic

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hawaiianhogster

Might as well speak your mind Mitch. Lord knows the other side would not let you. Don't hold back either. Its all or nothing. No holds barred.

Hogman2

Who? The "aspirin" dealer who was arrested initially for selling drugs until they tested them and found he was selling aspirin as opioids?

PORKULATOR

Quote from: dfwalumdad on December 03, 2017, 04:45:52 pm
back up QB at USC? he wasn't even an UDFA. he'd kill for brandon allen's career.

you're kidding right?
well, duh!
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majestic

Quote from: Hogman2 on December 03, 2017, 05:42:41 pm
Who? The "aspirin" dealer who was arrested initially for selling drugs until they tested them and found he was selling aspirin as opioids?
Not even close. Try again.
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Mike Irwin

Quote from: buldozer on December 03, 2017, 04:55:46 pm
I think this kid was a spoiled brat hiding behind momma's skirt. And I really supported him while he was playing until all the negative stuff came out. I think he is still spoiled and posting sour grapes is what I seen yesterday. Lots of hate for UA in that kid... he should move on and stop sulking. He must be miserable stuck in the past.
What he's been tweeting about is over your head. It's not about the fans. It's not about the school. It's about adults who were in charge of 18 year old kids and used them like they were their personal property. Nutt and his staff weren't the only guilty parties. Some of the boosters who were heavily involved are either dead or no longer active in athletic affairs but a few are still around.

Honestly I don't think his attitude will change until the results of an internal investigation conducted by a university attorney in late 2006 and early 2007 are made public and apologies are made. I highly doubt that will happen so why should he have good feelings about the school?

He's not the only freshman on that team that feels this way but he's the only one who gets continually harassed on Twitter.

Athog

Quote from: Dropkick on December 03, 2017, 04:32:37 pm
Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere

Yes he led USC for 3 years to a National Championship! Sarcasm off!

Martygit

Quote from: Mike Irwin on December 03, 2017, 06:22:58 pm
What he's been tweeting about is over your head. It's not about the fans. It's not about the school. It's about adults who were in charge of 18 year old kids and used them like they were their personal property. Nutt and his staff weren't the only guilty parties. Some of the boosters who were heavily involved are either dead or no longer active in athletic affairs but a few are still around.

Honestly I don't think his attitude will change until the results of an internal investigation conducted by a university attorney in late 2006 and early 2007 are made public and apologies are made. I highly doubt that will happen so why should he have good feelings about the school?

He's not the only freshman on that team that feels this way but he's the only one who gets continually harassed on Twitter.

If anyone is the least bit interested in what really happened back then (and, I'm assuming that most of you weren't around then and don't really care) what Mike says is absolutely correct - Mitch Mustain, a Parade All American coming out of high school, was treated like crap by HDN and the University - I wish he'd write a book about his experiences but I'm sure many of you who are such homers that you would lambast him for it (assuming you ever read it).  He's a good guy who got caught up in what was though to be big time college football and its politics - he got run over and spit out - if anyone other than HDN had been the coach, he would have been a fantastically successful college QB and Ark would have had a lot more success in the years that followed his getting run off - deal with it

And, yes, Mike, what he's been tweeting about is way over the heads of some of the morons on HV
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PolishPigPower

A few years ago in LR, I watched The Identity Theft of Mitch Mustain.  For those who don't know, it's a film about MM's journey from 8th grade thru his days at USC.  Some of it is a little slanted, but it wasn't the film itself that stood out to me.  It was the Q&A that Mitch held after the film that went nearly an hour.  He fielded every question about everything asked, answered directly, and didn't make excuses. 

Bottom line that I got from it was he was a guy who was extremely talented, but lost his love for the game after the time at the UofA.  Furthermore, when Gus left for Tulsa up to the time of that Q&A, MM had not spoken to or heard from Gus.  Think about it.  Gus was like the dad he didn't have from 8th grade thru his freshman semester of college, and then... poof... he was gone.

Sounds like some things have improved there, and I'm glad for that.  When I talked to MM that day, he was passionate about the military and had found a love for training firefighters at a facility out there in AZ.  He doesn't sugarcoat anything, and it's easy for some of us to take potshots at him because he is well known.  But he was 18 when he was here, and then kinda was like a rudderless ship for a few years.  He's a standup guy now, and as someone who was also pretty freaking rudderless when I was 18-23, I'm not gonna hold it against him. 

It's not his sour grapes.  It's that he honestly doesn't care what happens with Arkansas football.  I don't share that sentiment... I care a heckuva lot... but I can't blame him for those feelings.  Walk a mile in that guy's shoes, y'all.
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Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 06:34:58 pm
If anyone is the least bit interested in what really happened back then (and, I'm assuming that most of you weren't around then and don't really care) what Mike says is absolutely correct - Mitch Mustain, a Parade All American coming out of high school, was treated like crap by HDN and the University - I wish he'd write a book about his experiences but I'm sure many of you who are such homers that you would lambast him for it (assuming you ever read it).  He's a good guy who got caught up in what was though to be big time college football and its politics - he got run over and spit out - if anyone other than HDN had been the coach, he would have been a fantastically successful college QB and Ark would have had a lot more success in the years that followed his getting run off - deal with it

And, yes, Mike, what he's been tweeting about is way over the heads of some of the morons on HV
Res Ipsa Loquitur seems a little to convenient to be a coincidence. But I'm on board with the idea that MM got screwed here.
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SpanHog

Quote from: dfwalumdad on December 03, 2017, 04:45:52 pm
back up QB at USC? he wasn't even an UDFA. he'd kill for brandon allen's career.

you're kidding right?

FIFY ... [sarcasm]Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere[/sarcasm]
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onebadrubi

This is the reason I didn't want gus here.  When gobn's are in place the best for all parties never happens and you have things like Mitch's debacle.  GOBN are not good for business, universities, or football programs. 

Martygit

Quote from: majestic on December 03, 2017, 06:44:31 pm
Res Ipsa Loquitur seems a little to convenient to be a coincidence. But I'm on board with the idea that MM got screwed here.

I get what you're saying - however, I'm a lawyer and chose that name simply because it is one of my favorite expressions in the law - "The thing speaks for itself" - I saw it on MM's Twitter profile last night when I went to it after he started tweeting - you can believe that or not but that's the truth - before last night, I never knew there was that relationship
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jmark

Quote from: Mike Irwin on December 03, 2017, 06:22:58 pm
What he's been tweeting about is over your head. It's not about the fans. It's not about the school. It's about adults who were in charge of 18 year old kids and used them like they were their personal property. Nutt and his staff weren't the only guilty parties. Some of the boosters who were heavily involved are either dead or no longer active in athletic affairs but a few are still around.

Honestly I don't think his attitude will change until the results of an internal investigation conducted by a university attorney in late 2006 and early 2007 are made public and apologies are made. I highly doubt that will happen so why should he have good feelings about the school?

He's not the only freshman on that team that feels this way but he's the only one who gets continually harassed on Twitter.

this is so messed up on so many levels
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Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 04:08:44 pm
Based on his tweets yesterday and today, I wish he'd write a book about his time here

He made a movie. It was enlightening.
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Martygit

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jmark

Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 06:58:15 pm
No, it is accurate on every level

i know its accurate.  I'm saying what happened to back then was messed up.
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Martygit

Quote from: jmark on December 03, 2017, 07:00:02 pm
i know its accurate.  I'm saying what happened to back then was messed up.

Sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying
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Justagp

Quote from: Mike Irwin on December 03, 2017, 06:22:58 pm
What he's been tweeting about is over your head. It's not about the fans. It's not about the school. It's about adults who were in charge of 18 year old kids and used them like they were their personal property. Nutt and his staff weren't the only guilty parties. Some of the boosters who were heavily involved are either dead or no longer active in athletic affairs but a few are still around.

Honestly I don't think his attitude will change until the results of an internal investigation conducted by a university attorney in late 2006 and early 2007 are made public and apologies are made. I highly doubt that will happen so why should he have good feelings about the school?

He's not the only freshman on that team that feels this way but he's the only one who gets continually harassed on Twitter.
Thought about writing the story Mike? May not be a good commercial film due to the outcome, but a documentary might work - maybe more stories than just Mitch's need to come to light. The U of A can't be the only school that has treated a kid like this.

a0ashle

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okrazorback

Quote from: ResIpsaLoquitur on December 03, 2017, 06:34:58 pm
If anyone is the least bit interested in what really happened back then (and, I'm assuming that most of you weren't around then and don't really care) what Mike says is absolutely correct - Mitch Mustain, a Parade All American coming out of high school, was treated like crap by HDN and the University - I wish he'd write a book about his experiences but I'm sure many of you who are such homers that you would lambast him for it (assuming you ever read it).  He's a good guy who got caught up in what was though to be big time college football and its politics - he got run over and spit out - if anyone other than HDN had been the coach, he would have been a fantastically successful college QB and Ark would have had a lot more success in the years that followed his getting run off - deal with it

And, yes, Mike, what he's been tweeting about is way over the heads of some of the morons on HV

I agree with you. Pulled after being the first freshman to win the first 8 games he started

Mike Irwin

Quote from: SpanHog on December 03, 2017, 06:50:42 pm
FIFY ... [sarcasm]Sad we let Mitch slip away and have that stellar career elsewhere[/sarcasm]
Can some of you people not understand this, it's not about what he didn't do on the football field. He freely admits they should have redshirted him. He takes no credit for the 8 game winning streak while he was the starter. He gives the credit to guys like D-Mac, Felix, Peyton Hillis, Marcus Monk and several defensive players. He's really not even mad about what happened to him because he's come to terms with it.

Like I've pointed out I think he would like the results of that investigation to be made public and apologies issued not just to him but several other players on that team. Those guys came to the school to try help win football games. They got caught up in a power struggle that took them totally by surprise. They were left stunned that grown men would get into what amounted to a junior high-type pissing contest with them caught in the middle. They have gradually come to terms with it but remain to this day bewildered that it happened and that nobody has ever officially acknowledged it.

NostraHOGus

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