Norvell is going to do awesome

[Broadway Rob]

So he's coming in here and bringing SEC talent when Bret isn't.



LOLOLOL

That's not the point.  Petrino was winning with less talented players (on paper).  It's called, doing more with less.  Something, CBB has proven he cannot do here in the SEC. 

[Broadway Rob]

The solution is to hire a coach from a P5 conference like Gundy. Not some one hit wonder like Norvell that beats up on the likes of Navy, Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulsa etc....

So Gundy, who could go to FL, Tenn, A&M (if open), Auburn (if open) would come to Arkansas? 

Delusional - characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.

[swineology]

That's not the point.  Petrino was winning with less talented players (on paper).  It's called, doing more with less.  Something, CBB has proven he cannot do here in the SEC.

Oh boy, this is rich right here

There's not 1 WR at Arkansas right now that could hold J. Wright, G. Childs or J. Adams jock strap.

And nor 1 DL that could hold R. Thomas, D Philon or T. Flowers jock strap

carry on

[jkstock04]

The solution is to hire a coach from a P5 conference like Gundy. Not some one hit wonder like Norvell that beats up on the likes of Navy, Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulsa etc....

Fair enough...at least you offer an actual solution.

Only problem with that is I'm about as anti-Bielema as it gets. I want the furthest thing from Bret Bielema as possible and hiring a retread power 5 coach again doesn't seem awesome to me at the moment....Chip Kelly or even Gundy for that matter ain't coming to fville so basically we are going to have to get a complete retread like Les Miles.

Also for a guy like that like that it's gonna take a big time contract and salary with a super long leash. He's gonna come in here looking to collect a paycheck and win 6 or 7 games/year just like Bielema.

Not my idea of what we need but that's just my opinion.

[BR]

The solution is to hire a coach from a P5 conference like Gundy. Not some one hit wonder like Norvell that beats up on the likes of Navy, Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulsa etc....

He is making 4.2, has a 3+ Million Buy-out...  In a much easier conference to win 9-10 games every year...          WHY would he want to come to the SEC, just signed a new contract that gives him all sorts of Perks..

[jacobp]

Didn't hugh freeze beat him twice

Sure but he sold his soul to do it, and look where he and the OM football program are headed now

[Broadway Rob]

Oh boy, this is rich right here

There's not 1 WR at Arkansas right now that could hold J. Wright, G. Childs or J. Adams jock strap.

And nor 1 DL that could hold R. Thomas, D Philon or T. Flowers jock strap

carry on

Didn't you just contradict yourself.  You're saying they both had talented players?  Do we compare their records now?

And are you saying that Petrino's WR's didn't do better because of his system?  I mean Wright is the only one who has done anything since. 

[swineology]

Fair enough...at least you offer an actual solution.

Only problem with that is I'm about as anti-Bielema as it gets. I want the furthest thing from Bret Bielema as possible and hiring a retread power 5 coach again doesn't seem awesome to me at the moment....Chip Kelly or even Gundy for that matter ain't coming to fville so basically we are going to have to get a complete retread like Les Miles.

Also for a guy like that like that it's gonna take a big time contract and salary with a super long leash. He's gonna come in here looking to collect a paycheck and win 6 or 7 games/year just like Bielema.

Not my idea of what we need but that's just my opinion.

That's a losers mentality, but I'll give you that.
Bret was a good safe hire at the time and it came out of no where.
Didn't, hasn't worked out.

Jeff can make a good hire and not have to scrape out an up and comer like Norvell and Morris. He proved it hiring Bob and Bret.

Arkansas and our facilities aren't chopped liver.

[Kneph13]

This entire season was an API Error.

[swineology]

Didn't you just contradict yourself.  You're saying they both had talented players?  Do we compare their records now?

And are you saying that Petrino's WR's didn't do better because of his system?  I mean Wright is the only one who has done anything since.

Wright, Thomas, Philon and Flowers all play in the NFL last time I checked.

[jkstock04]

That's a losers mentality, but I'll give you that.
Bret was a good safe hire at the time and it came out of no where.
Didn't, hasn't worked out.

Jeff can make a good hire and not have to scrape out an up and comer like Norvell and Morris. He proved it hiring Bob and Bret.

Arkansas and our facilities aren't chopped liver.

Hasn't worked out because it was a God awful hire. You guys can spin it and revision it all you want but we have been doomed for 6 years now.

Is what it is we will agree to disagree. You want a comfortable retread like Bielema and I want a young guy who still has something to prove. We will see what happens. Chances are we will probably be stuck with Bielema again next year anyways.

[MissippHog]

The solution is to hire a coach from a P5 conference like Gundy. Not some one hit wonder like Norvell that beats up on the likes of Navy, Connecticut, East Carolina, Tulsa etc....

My God man, how delusional are you?

Every team that he's beat would lose to Mizzou. I agree Bret needs to go, but hiring Norvell would be a disaster.

But carry on with your delusional thought process even though we still have a HC that will get a "w" today.

I was telling myself that I wasn't going to respond to you again but...............ha ha ha ha ha!  We are NOT getting Gundy or anyone like that.  After we pay CBB's buyout (assuming that he even gets fired) do you think we're just going to go pay $2-4 million on someone else's buyout plus a $4+ million salary?  Talking about delusional. 

[Hoggish1]

Didn't hugh freeze beat him twice

Yes he did.

[Hoggish1]

And he never lost to A&M, usually beat Auburn, and did well against LSU, who was playing for BCS championships during his time, not the train wreck LSU Bert has played against. 

Try to keep up.

Or go embrace you some 11-26, you seem to have a great affinity for that kind of suck.

While this is true, remember aTm was not in the SEC back then.  Things have changed with that program, unfortunately.

[Corkscrew Johnson]

While this is true, remember aTm was not in the SEC back then.  Things have changed with that program, unfortunately.

Please.  A&M has been the same exact team for 80 years....good but never great, always just failing to capture their potential, typically failing in some spectacular way that makes them the butt of all jokes here in Texas.  There is a misnomer that somehow being in Texas, and being so close to Houston, they are a dynasty in waiting.  But people easily forget that they are a school full of farming dorks, the town is the Starkville of Texas, and they simply cant replicate the talent or results of their brethren in Austin.  Hell, even Bret bielema should have beat them 4 years in a row, that's when you know it's bad.

[rhames]

I don't understand why anyone would what Bielema to coach the hogs next year.

[Gonzo]

It might get old after a few years of it but I'd enjoy it for a few years first.

I agree, just got to laugh at questions like that. Get back to us when that becomes an "every year" scenario and we'll talk about it. Don't see this staff ever making it a one year event.


Go Hogs!

[ChicoHog]

This is fun football to watch.  There are no guarantees with any coach. We thought we hit a grand slam with CBB .  But it does seem like the excitement that surrounds Norvell may be the closest thing to unifying our fan base and bringing life back to our program. There are a lot of names out there and a lot of positives and negatives but it just seems like Norvell is a dude we can all get behind and enjoy the ride.

And for those that say Norvell wouldn't want to come here now that he is blowing up, I think you are wrong. I think he would love to be here. Let's bring Mrs. Norvell back home!

I agree with your post but let's be honest in that they are playing teams with virtually no defense.  The only decent defense they have played was UCF and they destroyed the Tigers.  The only SEC teams with crappy defenses are Mizzou, Ole Miss and Hogs.  I think every other team would shut that down in a heartbeat.  I'll take Brent Venables and he can hire a good OC. 

[hawgsalot]

And he never lost to A&M, usually beat Auburn, and did well against LSU, who was playing for BCS championships during his time, not the train wreck LSU Bert has played against. 

Try to keep up.

Or go embrace you some 11-26, you seem to have a great affinity for that kind of suck.

I'm not pumping CBB but we have to remember CBP only beat 2 teams with a winning SEC record, two.  The SEC just wasn't as good as CBB first 4 years overall.

[EastTNHog]

My God man, how delusional are you?

Every team that he's beat would lose to Mizzou. I agree Bret needs to go, but hiring Norvell would be a disaster.

But carry on with your delusional thought process even though we still have a HC that will get a "w" today.

In what way would hiring Norvell be a disaster? And please, don't get personal.

[lumphog]

Just watched Memphis whip Tulsa, and if we get Norvell, I hope he does not get discouraged when he realizes he had more talent at Memphis. 

BULLSHEEET!!!! & WE need to recruit Memphis MORE!!!!!

[texas tush hog]

i wanna have his baby

His wife might resemble that remark.

[ATU HOG]

Both are risks, however I would like to see us go after someone who has success at a lower division and has that drive to have that success at the higher level.  Not sure how I feel about Norvel because he's only been a head coach for 2 years, but it's time to take a gamble and go a different direction

[ipigsooie]

I agree with your post but let's be honest in that they are playing teams with virtually no defense.  The only decent defense they have played was UCF and they destroyed the Tigers.  The only SEC teams with crappy defenses are Mizzou, Ole Miss and Hogs.  I think every other team would shut that down in a heartbeat.  I'll take Brent Venables and he can hire a good OC.

They beat ucla. They scored more against ucla than a&m did....oh and they beat ucla, unlike a&m.  You can only play the schedule you have. They had a bad game against ucf. It happens. They beat Houston on the road after trailing at half. The same Houston team that just beat usf who was ranked in the top 20 and coached by Charlie strong. Norvell is a good coach. He also places and emphasis on special teams. That would be something that would be unheard of under the CBB era.

[HoggyCat]

He's doing with equal talent as his opponents.

He won't have equal talent here.

[CDBHawg]

So, you'd be happy every year if we were #3 with two games to play and lost those last two games every year?

What year did this happen?

When we were #3, we lost to #2 LSU then beat #8 K-State.

[ipigsooie]

He's doing with equal talent as his opponents.

He won't have equal talent here.

I'm pretty sure ucla has more talent. Their qb is a projected to go in the top 10. I saw a mock where he is going to the giants at 3. The talent at ucla is way better than Memphis.

[Paul]

He's doing with equal talent as his opponents.

He won't have equal talent here.

. U think Memphis's talent is equal to UCLA?

[CDBHawg]

No, you wouldn't if it was followed by two losses every year.

Again, this didn't happen.

[LZH]

His name is spelled Bret, if you're gonna respond please spell his name right

Your name obviously isn't swineology, so what should we call you?
For Pete's sake man, get off your hands and knees and quit being such a puss.

[CDBHawg]

Petrino never beat Bama or any other top 10 team in his "error"

Beat #6 LSU in 2010.

Beat #10 South Carolina in 2011. Beat #8 KState in 2011.

[clutch]

He can think that from now to doom's day. But will Jeff Long even consider him?  You reckon he wrote Jeffrey a love letter?

I think that if he feels there's a good chance he's going to be here then his camp has probably already had some discussions.

[Ex-Trumpet]

There would be a lot to look forward to if Norvell gets hired. There would be absolutely nothing but crap to look forward to if JL tries to keep Bielema.

Wrong.  We will look forward to basketball and baseball season.

[ipigsooie]

I think that if he feels there's a good chance he's going to be here then his camp has probably already had some discussions.

^^^^^This. I guarantee you that if there is mutual interest, JL has had some contact with his agent. Say what you want about JL but he isnt a dummy. If he is even considering a change, he is researching his options and putting feelers out there.

[TNRazorbacker]

No No No. The Norvell love is Waaaaay premature. The man is in season 2 of his head coaching career and took over a team that was already rebuilt to win. He has no resume otherwise.

This is just another example of being distracted by whomever happens to be flashing in the pan at the moment. If we are promoting from the mid majors we can afford to make sure its someone with the history worthy of the promotion.   

[moses_007]

No No No. The Norvell love is Waaaaay premature. The man is in season 2 of his head coaching career and took over a team that was already rebuilt to win. He has no resume otherwise.

This is just another example of being distracted by whomever happens to be flashing in the pan at the moment. If we are promoting from the mid majors we can afford to make sure its someone with the history worthy of the promotion.   

Absolutely agree.  Norvell isn't SEC ready. 

Pete Carroll for Head Hog?  He's always wanted our job.  He may be getting tired of the Seahawks.......

[Hawginj]

There is a lot to like about Norvell. Young energetic,  fun high scoring offense, great special teams, state ties ect. Plus gives some hope of change because lets face it all hope is gone with the current staff and philosophy. Go Hogs!

[Ex-Trumpet]

There is a lot to like about Norvell. Young energetic,  fun high scoring offense, great special teams, state ties ect. Plus gives some hope of change because lets face it all hope is gone with the current staff and philosophy. Go Hogs!

ALL hope is not gone.  There's some dingleberries still hanging on the the last hair.

[Hawginj]

ALL hope is not gone.  There's some dingleberries still hanging on the the last hair.

well i guess i dont value dingleberry opinions lol

[MissippHog]

No No No. The Norvell love is Waaaaay premature. The man is in season 2 of his head coaching career and took over a team that was already rebuilt to win. He has no resume otherwise.

This is just another example of being distracted by whomever happens to be flashing in the pan at the moment. If we are promoting from the mid majors we can afford to make sure its someone with the history worthy of the promotion.

Oh, ok, that makes sense.  Go find some established mid-major coach that's been toiling away at some small school and hasn't been able to land a P5 job.  Makes oerfect sense.

[Ex-Trumpet]

well i guess i dont value dingleberry opinions lol

I'm just getting scared that the powers that be are dingleberries.

[Hawginj]

I'm just getting scared that the powers that be are dingleberries.

They very well may be, but i have faith that the right call will be made.

[CDBHawg]

No No No. The Norvell love is Waaaaay premature. The man is in season 2 of his head coaching career and took over a team that was already rebuilt to win. He has no resume otherwise.

This is just another example of being distracted by whomever happens to be flashing in the pan at the moment. If we are promoting from the mid majors we can afford to make sure its someone with the history worthy of the promotion.

Who?

[East Clintwood]

They very well may be, but i have faith that the right call will be made.

Blind Faith.  Was a good group back in the day.

[ipigsooie]

No No No. The Norvell love is Waaaaay premature. The man is in season 2 of his head coaching career and took over a team that was already rebuilt to win. He has no resume otherwise.

This is just another example of being distracted by whomever happens to be flashing in the pan at the moment. If we are promoting from the mid majors we can afford to make sure its someone with the history worthy of the promotion.

Youre so right. This is his very first job. He didnt have a top 5 offense at a power 5 school for 2 years straight. Memphis just hired him off the street with no resume.

[King Kong]

There is no way we could land someone like Novell, considering how beaten down this program is.  We'll have to settle for a retread like Miles, or maybe an assistant that no one has heard of.

And I'm still not convinced that BB is leaving.

Stupidiest post I have seen in a long time.

[King Kong]

For the record it should be Kiffin we hire.

But Norvell brings some positives. SEC is tough if you haven't been there. I hope he can put together a good staff.

[Arkansas Fan]

Why do you love his offense? Because it's not what we're running now? If so, the style of offense we're running isn't the problem.

[CDBHawg]

Why do you love his offense? Because it's not what we're running now? If so, the style of offense we're running isn't the problem.

It averages 42.1 points per.

Ours is only 26.

[TNRazorbacker]

Youre so right. This is his very first job. He didnt have a top 5 offense at a power 5 school for 2 years straight. Memphis just hired him off the street with no resume.

Yes I am. Thank you.