Need A Way Out

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Obviously, this relationship isn't going to work. I also don't think hogville is going to pool $15 million dollars for the buyout. We need an innovative solution to end this that is mutually beneficial.

[lamont7906]

What are the conditions of his buyout is it at one time or can be spread out?

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Is the contract public domain?

[JOKERHOG]

Negotiate a fair amount and move on.  If he balks for threatens to sue, show him video of the last two games of last year and the last two games of this year.  His attorney will suggest he settle

[MountieDawg]

Obviously, this relationship isn't going to work. I also don't think hogville is going to pool $15 million dollars for the buyout. We need an innovative solution to end this that is mutually beneficial.

Spend 30k on a Harley

[damgoodestuffyhog]

What would be a fair buyout offer? I think we are owed an explanation at this point that the obligations of the terms of the contract in exchange for the millions of dollars are being met.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Are excessive turnover of assistant coaches, a losing record, and fighting in the locker room contractually defensible and acceptable? I would like to see these questions asked/answered by professionals because at least it has a chance of leading to a resolution.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Is starting a true freshman on the offensive line reflective of an inability to do basic program planning and management?

[Bubba's Bruisers]

Is starting a true freshman on the offensive line reflective of an inability to do basic program planning and management?

It's definitely a black mark on OL recruiting in general.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Does reliance on juco transfers reflect poor planning and a lack of recruiting ability?

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Is starring in a reality tv series an intelligent use of your time/resources?

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Is it acceptable to openly criticize a specific  player from the podium?

We need to start thinking logically and working towards the outcome that we want.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

We don't need $15 million dollars, we need people with the motivation and the skill set to negotiate an exit. This has to be the issue if we want a change in coaching.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Is describing a win as "erotic" professional and producing a favorable public perception for our program?

[Karma]

I don't think y'all understand how contracts work.  Anything other than
Moral terpitude he gets the buyout. and try hiring a new coach if you breach the contract with the old one and refuse to pay.

[LRHawg]

We should be able to garnish Long's wages to pay the buyout. 

[damgoodestuffyhog]

https://www.scribd.com/mobile/doc/294243570/bret-bielema-employment-contract?skip_app_promo=true

So this is the contract, it has many many stipulations

[my3boneheads]

Go the Nebraska route and fire the AD responsible for this mess. 

[HardCore]

We should be able to garnish Long's wages to pay the buyout. 

I am for this.  No AD is better than Long as AD.  Ask Pitt Fans

[damgoodestuffyhog]

It appears to me that we owe the buyout if we terminate for "convenience"

[BoynamedWooPigSooie]

Our only hope is a health related issue that ends his career.

[HardCore]

Obviously, this relationship isn't going to work. I also don't think hogville is going to pool $15 million dollars for the buyout. We need an innovative solution to end this that is mutually beneficial.

Well, that's 15,000 of us dishing out $1000.  Or, if we end up waiting until January (which was stupid on Long's part....again.  January?), then 11,000 of us could dish out $1000.  I will put up my $1000, now we are down to 10,999 to go.  Jeff really put our Alma Matter in a crap position with that contract.  He needs to be fired for that alone.

[HogMantheIntruder]

Is describing a win as "erotic" professional and producing a favorable public perception for our program?

I don't blame you for getting drunk after this debacle, but maybe sober up a bit before going on a nonsensical rant?

[alohawg]

Even if the ptb want him out now, with the season already toast, they can do it for half the cost after Jan 1.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Haha, I am not drunk. Agreed on the ranting part. Honestly, I feel that the next few months are probably gonna be rough for all of us, and I am hoping to get some inertia working towards a solution rather than chanting fire the coach. I guarantee you there are people from the UAF that are reading these posts. Otherwise all of the emotional energy that we are expending complaining likely won't produce much change. May not be to your style, but at least I am trying to find an answer.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Paragraph 2, Section a) "Coach shall be responsible for evaluating, recruiting, training, conditioning, instructing, supervising, disciplining, and coaching student-athletes to prepare them to compete successfully in the SEC and against major college competition on a national level."

Well, he obviously hasn't met this condition.

[alohawg]

Paragraph 2, Section a) "Coach shall be responsible for evaluating, recruiting, training, conditioning, instructing, supervising, disciplining, and coaching student-athletes to prepare them to compete successfully in the SEC and against major college competition on a national level."

Well, he obviously hasn't met this condition.

Terms must be defined.

[gangstaback]

We need an innovative solution to end this that is mutually beneficial.

1. There's a reported 21,000 Hogvillians here.
2. Assuming they are mostly fatties is pretty safe.
3. Quit going to Sonic for happy hour for 1 year, that's at least $1 per user per calendar day because , let's face it , you'll still go on christmas or go twice on 4th of july.
4. Next August, that will be $350 per each of the x 21,000 strong = $7 Million.
5. Quit going to Sonic and lose some weight, so mutually beneficial.

Ya happy? Was that really so hard?

[TNRazorbacker]

Hoping he sees the writing and makes the move himself after this season. There has been some talk about Nebraska.

[(notOM)Rebel123]

Terms must be defined.

10-23 in the SEC defines it pretty well.

[Hogeration]

Maybe Nebraska will come after him.

[East Clintwood]

It appears to me that we owe the buyout if we terminate for "convenience"

What happens if we terminate for "our sanity"?

[damgoodestuffyhog]

1. There's a reported 21,000 Hogvillians here.
2. Assuming they are mostly fatties is pretty safe.
3. Quit going to Sonic for happy hour for 1 year, that's at least $1 per user per calendar day because , let's face it , you'll still go on christmas or go twice on 4th of july.
4. Next August, that will be $350 per each of the x 21,000 strong = $7 Million.
5. Quit going to Sonic and lose some weight, so mutually beneficial.

Ya happy? Was that really so hard?

I can definitely appreciate the irony of involving Sonic in this debacle haha. Maybe they can sponsor our fan base?

[alohawg]

10-23 in the SEC defines it pretty well.

Works for me, but does compete successfully mean win or just compete? I think the later, gray area that's subjective.

[DoubleReedHawgCaller]

He's a drinker. It's not that hard.

[bondhue]

What are the conditions of his buyout is it at one time or can be spread out?

Let's pay $1.00 per year for the next 15 million years.

[Johnny Razorback]

He's a drinker. It's not that hard.

This.

My Company's former CFO is a big Wisconsin booster, and he was so happy when they got rid of BB.  He said his reputation in Wisky was a drunk and a womanizer.  I haven't seen that so much here, but if there is truth to it, then it could definitely be used against him......

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Let's pay $1.00 per year for the next 15 million years.

Maybe we can mine for bitcoins?

[ZERO]

Let's pay $1.00 per year for the next 15 million years.

That's dumb. We're looking at a 15 million year rebuild job. You want to fire him the very season he's supposed to break out and win the division? Short sighted fans like you are why we can't get anywhere.

[ricepig]

Negotiate a fair amount and move on.  If he balks for threatens to sue, show him video of the last two games of last year and the last two games of this year.  His attorney will suggest he settle

Lol, his attorney and agent got the buyout, they aren't rolling over for us if/when he is dismissed.

[HammusArkansus]

Fire Long!  Give Alvarez an 'offer he can't refuse'.

[farmhawg]

Go the Nebraska route and fire the AD responsible for this mess. 

Long's boss needs to be up if long is still here.....

[HogMantheIntruder]

Haha, I am not drunk. Agreed on the ranting part. Honestly, I feel that the next few months are probably gonna be rough for all of us, and I am hoping to get some inertia working towards a solution rather than chanting fire the coach. I guarantee you there are people from the UAF that are reading these posts. Otherwise all of the emotional energy that we are expending complaining likely won't produce much change. May not be to your style, but at least I am trying to find an answer.

Fair enough. Didn't realize this was supposed to be a constructive post. And just to be clear, I am now officially off the CBB bandwagon after 4 years of defending him and pumping sunshine.

[The_Iceman]

Bielema may love that $15 million, but he doesn't want being fired on his resume. He'd be better off trying to find another job that's a better fit for him....maybe Nebraska.

[damgoodestuffyhog]

Fair enough. Didn't realize this was supposed to be a constructive post. And just to be clear, I am now officially off the CBB bandwagon after 4 years of defending him and pumping sunshine.

Thanks. I really appreciate it. For the record I too appreciate Bielema and would love the wins and losses to match up with how much effort he puts in. On a good day, you could convince me to wait things out because of his positive traits and apparent morality. However, that really isn't how coaching cycles go in the modern day and I can see the frustration that these embarrassing losses are causing friends/family that are hog fans. It's a shame when we as fans say I'm not watching any more games yet still watch the games, hoping for a different outcome. At some point winning matters.

[HogMantheIntruder]

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