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bythelake

If so how about an update?

Thanks in advance.

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NuttinItUp

I'd like to see McGregor have a shot, but everyone that knows anything about boxing is saying Mayweather is gonna be 50-0 after the fight. Who knows.

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bythelake

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MMA rules, then other.

NuttinItUp

Quote from: bythelake on August 26, 2017, 08:36:47 pm
The professional boxer, his rules.

MMA rules, then other.

They should have done something like kickboxing (no grappling) to give McGregor a better shot at it; Kind of like halfway in between.

ErieHog

The only thing that won't be disappointing about it, is that it will last a while;  beyond that, it is a waste of money.  I wouldn't be paying for it,  by myself.  As it stands, having about 10 people over for it, with everyone chipping in on the fight.
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HamSammich

It's free on the net. Gregor will look stupid against the most crappiest crappie person to ever live.... and they both get richer. Wonderful world

NuttinItUp

Some of the prop bets are amazing

https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2017/08/22/bieber-appearance-trump-tweets-here-are-mayweather-mcgregor-prop-bets

Who will have more people with them during the fight walkout?
Floyd Mayweather: -175
Conor McGregor: +125

Which fighter will have a longer fight walkout?
Floyd Mayweather: -155
Conor McGregor: +110

Will Floyd Mayweather wear a "The Money Team" hat during the fight walkout?
Yes: -400
No: +250

Will Lil Wayne wear a shirt during the fight walkout?
Yes:-230
No: +160

Will Nate Diaz walk out with Floyd Mayweather?
Yes: +115
No: -160

Will Justin Bieber walk out with Floyd Mayweather?
Yes: +300
No: -500

Total Donald Trump Tweets on the day of the fight
Over 6.5: -155
Under 6.5: +110

Will either corner throw in towel?
Yes: +800
No: -2500

Will either fighter lose their mouthpiece during the fight?
Yes: +425
No: -850

Who will be the first fighter to bleed?
Floyd Mayweather: +275
Conor McGregor: -450

Will there be a Boxing Rematch in 2018?
Yes: +450
No: -900

Which fight will end first?
Mayweather vs McGregor: -600
Alvarez vs Golovkin: +350

Will Conor McGregor fight in the UFC in 2017?
Yes: +125
No: -175

Will there be a MMA Rematch in 2018?
Yes +2000
No: -10000

ErieHog

That was such a joke.

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bennyl08

Good fight to watch.

McGregor did very well for an MMA boxer. Displayed very good technique, but deep into the match, he just didn't have the experience to keep going.

Mayweather didn't play his normal style. Barely punched at all in the first round, but went full on aggressor in the later rounds.

Can't fault the ref for stopping it when he did. Connor was done and the only left for him was to potentially get injured.

Would have been more fair to do something like kickboxing. Having McGregor go fully into Mayweather's world without any compromise wasn't truly fair, but McGregor is a fighter and doesn't care about fair, he wanted the chance at glory and did pretty well all things considered.
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NuttinItUp

I can't say those who bought it got their moneys worth since it was so high a pricetag, but it was an entertaining fight and as good as fight fans could have expected. Lots of action, and McGregor hung with him until he just tired out.

The fact that McGregor won the first 3-4 rounds was impressive, but he was definitely at a disadvantage fighting on Mayweather's turf.

Pig in the Pokey

Quote from: NuttinItUp on August 27, 2017, 12:09:53 am
I can't say those who bought it got their moneys worth since it was so high a pricetag, but it was an entertaining fight and as good as fight fans could have expected. Lots of action, and McGregor hung with him until he just tired out.

The fact that McGregor won the first 3-4 rounds was impressive, but he was definitely at a disadvantage fighting on Mayweather's turf.
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Großer Kriegschwein

McGregor won the first two rounds. After that, Mayweather was ahead on the scorecards.
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Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on August 27, 2017, 12:36:54 am
McGregor won the first two rounds. After that, Mayweather was ahead on the scorecards.

I've watched a decent but if boxing, but the score cards still just don't make sense. Almost every round is 10-9 in one or the others favor. You have to do terribly to only score 8.

Why is not more varied. A flawless round should score 10. An average round should bet around a 5. Ideally quantify somewhat with a rubric where you grade on different areas, weighted differently.
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Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: bennyl08 on August 27, 2017, 12:56:57 am
I've watched a decent but if boxing, but the score cards still just don't make sense. Almost every round is 10-9 in one or the others favor. You have to do terribly to only score 8.

Why is not more varied. A flawless round should score 10. An average round should bet around a 5. Ideally quantify somewhat with a rubric where you grade on different areas, weighted differently.

It's a 10-Point Must system. Used to make judging boxing less subjective.

Judges score on a 10-point scale. Most rounds will end 10-9, with the more dominant boxer receiving 10 points, the other receiving 9.

If a boxer is knocked down, he loses a point. If a boxer is knocked down twice, he loses two points. If both fighters are knocked down, the knockdowns cancel each other out.

While uncommon, if a fighter completely dominates a round but doesn't score a knockdown, a judge can still score that round 10-8.

If a judge deems the round completely even, both fighters receive 10 points.

When the referee sees fit, he can take away a point or two for an intentional foul; he can do the same for unintentional ones, but that usually occurs after at least a warning.
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I respect McGregor for what he tried to do, but he violated the first rule of combat:  never fight the enemy on his terms.  An MMA fighter rarely has any business fighting a boxer in a boxing ring, and a boxer rarely has any business fighting in the MMA octagon.
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Quote from: The Chief on August 27, 2017, 01:12:49 am
I respect McGregor for what he tried to do, but he violated the first rule of combat:  never fight the enemy on his terms.  An MMA fighter rarely has any business fighting a boxer in a boxing ring, and a boxer rarely has any business fighting in the MMA octagon.

Money will make a man do strange things.

He comported himself well. But you could tell after 10 seconds that it was gonna turn into target practice for Floyd at some point and Conor wouldn't make it.
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sickboy

Honestly, I was pretty impressed with McGregor. I didn't think he'd last that long. And he came out stronger than I would have thought.

Overall, the fight was way better than I was expecting. It was way more entertaining than the Pacquiao fight.

bennyl08

Quote from: Großer Kriegschwein on August 27, 2017, 01:05:15 am
It's a 10-Point Must system. Used to make judging boxing less subjective.

Judges score on a 10-point scale. Most rounds will end 10-9, with the more dominant boxer receiving 10 points, the other receiving 9.

If a boxer is knocked down, he loses a point. If a boxer is knocked down twice, he loses two points. If both fighters are knocked down, the knockdowns cancel each other out.

While uncommon, if a fighter completely dominates a round but doesn't score a knockdown, a judge can still score that round 10-8.

If a judge deems the round completely even, both fighters receive 10 points.

When the referee sees fit, he can take away a point or two for an intentional foul; he can do the same for unintentional ones, but that usually occurs after at least a warning.

Thanks. Still think it's a weak scoring sytem, but it is what it is.

Quote from: The Chief on August 27, 2017, 01:12:49 am
I respect McGregor for what he tried to do, but he violated the first rule of combat:  never fight the enemy on his terms.  An MMA fighter rarely has any business fighting a boxer in a boxing ring, and a boxer rarely has any business fighting in the MMA octagon.

I feel like it would be way easier to do what McGregor did than the other way around. An MMA fighter knows most of the essentials of boxing. How to throw a punch, southpaw vs regular, holding your hands up, etc... It's the different type of stamina/training needed, and the more subtle nuances of boxing that become the challenge that direction.

If it went the other way, Mayweather would need to basically start learning how to kick, start learning how to grapple, much less having time to learn the nuances of those forms of combat.

Not to mention that there's no way that Mayweather would accept a challenge that didn't favor himself.
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HamSammich

Quote from: bennyl08 on August 27, 2017, 12:56:57 am
I've watched a decent but if boxing, but the score cards still just don't make sense. Almost every round is 10-9 in one or the others favor. You have to do terribly to only score 8.

Why is not more varied. A flawless round should score 10. An average round should bet around a 5. Ideally quantify somewhat with a rubric where you grade on different areas, weighted differently.
Because it's boxing. If a guy scores worse than a 10-9 he is automatically considered in someone's pocket.... you don't want to be in the street of Vegas doing that. And I'm dead serious

husker71

this was the 1st rule of combat with a caveat   Never fight the enemy on their own terms UNLESS you are getting $100,000,000 +    for you trouble.  I found the fight entertaining and was surprised how well McGregor fought but does this say more about Conor or more about Money????  He missed a lot of punches by just an inch even in the middle rounds and did not look nearly as quick as he has before.  That is what being 40 will do to you.

 

presidenthog

Conor won the 1st 3 rounds for sure. Could argue 5 just on being the aggressor. May figured him out. Put him on his heels, where conor isn't his best, and won the fight. Everyone knew conor would wear out for 12 rounds. I wanted a knock out either way. People on social media say conor could have died. I call b.s. he comes from a sport where you have to be knocked out cold to lose. He even told the ref let the man knock me out.

I think he realized he couldn't knock him out after he got tired. Mental fatigue causes physical fatigue. He showed the heart of a lion either way. It was a good fight, and may deserved the win.

hawgon

Quote from: The Chief on August 27, 2017, 01:12:49 am
I respect McGregor for what he tried to do, but he violated the first rule of combat:  never fight the enemy on his terms.  An MMA fighter rarely has any business fighting a boxer in a boxing ring, and a boxer rarely has any business fighting in the MMA octagon.

For the kind of money they paid him, I'm pretty sure he would have fought wearing an adult diaper and one hand tied behind his back.

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Quote from: presidenthog on August 27, 2017, 05:31:34 am
I call b.s. he comes from a sport where you have to be knocked out cold to lose. He even told the ref let the man knock me out.


MIGHT have gone another round.  FWIW I doubt any fighter of any discipline wants to have the fight called because of decision.  That being said it's the ref's job to make sure that something horrible doesn't happen in the ring.  I'm not saying he could have been killed (although it's happened) but permanent brain damage and living life as a vegetable is no treat either.

If anyone should have a problem with the ref it's Mayweather: way too much rabbit punching for what was in fact a boxing match.

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: presidenthog on August 27, 2017, 05:31:34 am
Conor won the 1st 3 rounds for sure. Could argue 5 just on being the aggressor. May figured him out. Put him on his heels, where conor isn't his best, and won the fight. Everyone knew conor would wear out for 12 rounds. I wanted a knock out either way. People on social media say conor could have died. I call b.s. he comes from a sport where you have to be knocked out cold to lose. He even told the ref let the man knock me out.

I think he realized he couldn't knock him out after he got tired. Mental fatigue causes physical fatigue. He showed the heart of a lion either way. It was a good fight, and may deserved the win.

Floyd was the aggressor from the start.
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Quote from: hawgon on August 27, 2017, 07:54:16 am
For the kind of money they paid him, I'm pretty sure he would have fought wearing an adult diaper and one hand tied behind his back.

I would have done the same.
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Quote from: presidenthog on August 27, 2017, 05:31:34 am
Conor won the 1st 3 rounds for sure. Could argue 5 just on being the aggressor. May figured him out. Put him on his heels, where conor isn't his best, and won the fight. Everyone knew conor would wear out for 12 rounds. I wanted a knock out either way. People on social media say conor could have died. I call b.s. he comes from a sport where you have to be knocked out cold to lose. He even told the ref let the man knock me out.

I think he realized he couldn't knock him out after he got tired. Mental fatigue causes physical fatigue. He showed the heart of a lion either way. It was a good fight, and may deserved the win.

Not true.  Fights are stopped all the time in mma without someone being out.

You even get dropped the ref will normally stop it.

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Dillar Dog on August 27, 2017, 10:42:44 am
Not true.  Fights are stopped all the time in mma without someone being out.

You even get dropped the ref will normally stop it.

Conor cut so much weight that it probably had an effect on him after about round 5.

There would have been nothing served from McGregor getting pounded for another 6 minutes. He would have had more energy for about 15 seconds at the beginning of round 11 and probably 10 seconds in round 12. McGregor is a phenomenal draw in UFC, even more so after this fight. The ref knew just about what the scorecards were saying and decided to end it when he was getting pounded without throwing a punch for over a minute. No permanent damage done and everyone can go back to what they were doing without any damage that won't heal in the next two weeks.

They both earned it.
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Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Dillar Dog on August 27, 2017, 11:36:01 am
Not sure why you quoted me on that.

Agreeing with you. I thought it would be clear.
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Dillar Dog

You agree that fights get stopped in mma without someone being out cold?


Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Dillar Dog on August 27, 2017, 11:42:36 am
You agree that fights get stopped in mma without someone being out cold?

Of course. I didn't even think that was in question.

In UFC an out-cold knockout is referred to as a walk-off knockout. They even have a name for a real knockout.

In the Mayweather McGregor fight, there was no standing 8-count rule. That increased the chances of the ref completely stopping the fight.

That's been happening since about the time of the Ultimate Ultimate.
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It was in question.  That's why I said it.

Großer Kriegschwein

Quote from: Dillar Dog on August 27, 2017, 11:47:41 am
It was in question.  That's why I said it.

I didn't address it which usually means consent.
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