Auburn #1??

[boomo26]

Just heard that Hooten has Auburn ranked #1 in the magazine that comes out this week.  Do you agree??  USC and LSU are in the top 10.  That would mean we are "suppose" to lose these 3 games.

Boomo

[hogsNbeer]

Just heard that Hooten has Auburn ranked #1 in the magazine that comes out this week.  Do you agree??  USC and LSU are in the top 10.  That would mean we are "suppose" to lose these 3 games.

Boomo

We will lose those 3 games....... Auburn will be very good this year..... I don't see that being a bad choice as a #1 pick.....

[HogHillbilly]

If that's true....................Think about if something freaky happens, and we win those three !

[MJ2]

I despise Tuberville.

[blake]

I would love to see another NC for the SEC.

[NATEHOGG216]

ya me too, maybe b/c it is our turn

[Pork Twain]

I would love for TT to win a NC for the SEC at Arkansas.

[Conway Cool Daddy]

Who says they have an easy schedule?
I see Buffalo and Ark State as major roadblocks to their NC hopes.

[NATEHOGG216]

I would love for TT to win a NC for the SEC at Arkansas.

TT?

[return2glory]

Tommy Tuberville

[pigsooie1000]

If Courtney Taylor lives up to the hype before last year and the rest of the WRS are servicable, their offense will be easily the class of the SEC.  The defense is a question mark but will be solid at the worst.  I'd pick them #2 behind Ohio State.

[NATEHOGG216]

ahaa, sorry, sometimes i am just stupid

thanks

[NATEHOGG216]

Really?  I think Ohio state may be a little over rated.  They are gonna have to patch some pretty big holes on D

[FLKeysGuy]

Where can I find the complete list?  Is it available online?  I'm interested to see where they have Iowa -- which I believe might be a "sleeper" this year.

[Pork Twain]

Nevermind, my bad TT doen't coach us.  HDN does...   

[HotRodHog]

GT got Auburn early, and the Tigers, although they are at home, better watch out for Washington State. Their qb, Josh Brink, has a full year under his belt, and their wide-out, name?, decided to stay for his senior year. They lost their great rb, Harrison, but they have a good juco transfer coming. Auburn is the better team, but WSU has offense.

[cbjagman]

Gosh, could this happen to be the same Tommy Tuberville that: 1) Was seriously considered for the Arkansas head coaching  position before it was accepted by HDN? 2) The guy who the Auburn administration tried to run off a few years ago in a failed coup attempt? I would say the Tommy has more lives than a cat.

[pigsooie1000]

Really?  I think Ohio state may be a little over rated.  They are gonna have to patch some pretty big holes on D

Ohio State has plenty of talent coming in on defense to have a top of the line defense, not as good as last year but still top 20 in the nation.  Their offense is obviously immensely talented, but far from a sure thing.  If Troy Smith plays like he did vs ND in the bowl game last year, the Buckeyes will be very tough to unseat.  But of course, I will probably be wrong.  That is why college football is great, we all think we have it figured out pre-season but at the end of the year even the best, most researched preseason poll won't be even close.  Having said that, I think Auburn and Ohio State are on the top tier of college football right now, with no one else with them.  Texas and USC both have too many questions at major skill positions.

[wincrimson]

No sour grapes here but. . .

This year's best team, Auburn, got blistered by Wisconsin in the Cap 1 Bowl last season? The same team that Wisconsin kneeled on the goalline for out of mercy? Plus, they lost a lot on D and in the WR core.

If they can't beat a slow, Big 10 team, then what makes anyone think that they will be the best team in the nation? It's not happening. Allbarn will be a good team, but they'll lose some games... bank on it.

[wincrimson]

No sour grapes here but. . .

This year's best team, Auburn, got blistered by Wisconsin in the Cap 1 Bowl last season? The same team that Wisconsin kneeled on the goalline for out of mercy? Plus, they lost a lot on D and in the WR core.

If they can't beat a slow, Big 10 team, then what makes anyone think that they will be the best team in the nation? It's not happening. Allbarn will be a good team, but they'll lose some games... bank on it.

I don't know but they sure have whooped a fast Bama team lately. 

That doesn't necessarily make them #1 in the entire nation.

[boomo26]

Where can I find the complete list?  Is it available online?  I'm interested to see where they have Iowa -- which I believe might be a "sleeper" this year.

You can get it later this week from the Hooten's magazine.  Hooten was on the Huddle this afternoon that is where I got the info.

Boomo

[billself4prez]

When we hired HDN instead of TT, I told everybody that we would live to regret it.  I like Houston, but he can't start TT as a head coach.  TT will coach on Sundays one of these days.

[wincrimson]

If you want a coach, go after Auburn's OC, Al Borges. Tuberville never did anything at AU and will never do anything without Al Borges. As you see, AU was a consistent 5 loss per year team under Tuberville. Tuberville is no better coach than Dale Nutt. Just look at his record w/o the offensive genius. Not to mention the help he has recieved by us not being able to sign as many kids as he has... he's been virtually recruiting one of the most talent rich HS football states with little competition thanks to our scholly reductions.

Records prior to Borges as OC:

1999: 5-6
2000: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2001: 7-5 (Peach Bowl)
2002: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2003: 8-5 (Music City Bowl)

After Borges' arrival:

2004: 13-0 (SEC Champ; Sugar Bowl)
2005: 9-3 (Capitol One Bowl)

[boomo26]

If you want a coach, go after Auburn's OC, Al Borges. Tuberville never did anything at AU and will never do anything without Al Borges. As you see, AU was a consistent 5 loss per year team under Tuberville. Tuberville is no better coach than Dale Nutt. Just look at his record w/o the offensive genius. Not to mention the help he has recieved by us not being able to sign as many kids as he has... he's been virtually recruiting one of the most talent rich HS football states with little competition thanks to our scholly reductions.

Records prior to Borges as OC:

1999: 5-6
2000: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2001: 7-5 (Peach Bowl)
2002: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2003: 8-5 (Music City Bowl)

After Borges' arrival:

2004: 13-0 (SEC Champ; Sugar Bowl)
2005: 9-3 (Capitol One Bowl)

Those numbers speak for themselves, sounds like a pay raise is in order.

Boomo

[wincrimson]

If you want a coach, go after Auburn's OC, Al Borges. Tuberville never did anything at AU and will never do anything without Al Borges. As you see, AU was a consistent 5 loss per year team under Tuberville. Tuberville is no better coach than Dale Nutt. Just look at his record w/o the offensive genius. Not to mention the help he has recieved by us not being able to sign as many kids as he has... he's been virtually recruiting one of the most talent rich HS football states with little competition thanks to our scholly reductions.

Records prior to Borges as OC:

1999: 5-6
2000: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2001: 7-5 (Peach Bowl)
2002: 9-4 (Citrus Bowl)
2003: 8-5 (Music City Bowl)

After Borges' arrival:

2004: 13-0 (SEC Champ; Sugar Bowl)
2005: 9-3 (Capitol One Bowl)

Couldn't agree more.  Chizik should be a good coach as well.

True. As well as Muschamp (current DC at AU). That's easily the best staff in the league. Which is why I don't understand why TT recieves so much undue (IMO) praise.

[rzrbaxfan]

This year's best team, Auburn, got blistered by Wisconsin in the Cap 1 Bowl last season? The same team that Wisconsin kneeled on the goalline for out of mercy? Plus, they lost a lot on D and in the WR core.

They have gone 16-1 in the SEC the past 2 years including the SECCG.  One bowl loss doesn't take anything away from that.  Their losses on D & at WR may catch up with them, but I thought the same thing going in to last year at QB & RB.  They will be a strong team, I think

[wincrimson]

This year's best team, Auburn, got blistered by Wisconsin in the Cap 1 Bowl last season? The same team that Wisconsin kneeled on the goalline for out of mercy? Plus, they lost a lot on D and in the WR core.

They have gone 16-1 in the SEC the past 2 years including the SECCG.  One bowl loss doesn't take anything away from that.  Their losses on D & at WR may catch up with them, but I thought the same thing going in to last year at QB & RB.  They will be a strong team, I think

Oh, they will be a strong team. Don't get me wrong.

But there's a lot of room between "strong teams" and the #1 team in the country.

[HatfieldHog]

No sour grapes here but. . .

This year's best team, Auburn, got blistered by Wisconsin in the Cap 1 Bowl last season? The same team that Wisconsin kneeled on the goalline for out of mercy? Plus, they lost a lot on D and in the WR core.

If they can't beat a slow, Big 10 team, then what makes anyone think that they will be the best team in the nation? It's not happening. Allbarn will be a good team, but they'll lose some games... bank on it.

The Bowl Game vs. Wisconsin last year, was not a good indicator of the Auburn team of this year.  If you'll remember, that bowl was the last game for legendary coach Barry Alvaraze, and his team played above their heads for his last coaching performance.  You could see those guys playing with more emotion that Auburn ever had during that game.

See ya

[cbjagman]

While I'm certainly no big Tuberville fan, I think that one has to give him credit for having the insight and ability to hire two very good coordinators. IMO if you can hire extremely good assistants then you don't have to necessarily be the greatest head coaching genius in the world. Besides, I think most would agree that TT and his staff do a very good job of recruiting talent to the AUburn campus.

[GuvHog]

The reason Auburn was so successful in the SEC last year was their OLine & DLine.
Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's
why they won the game. Auburn lost 2 starters on their OL, and almost their entire DL.
They won't be as good this year, for sure not #1.

[hogsNbeer]

The reason Auburn was so successful in the SEC last year was their OLine & DLine.
Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's
why they won the game. Auburn lost 2 starters on their OL, and almost their entire DL.
They won't be as good this year, for sure not #1.

Guv.....  Auburn or LSU will win the SEC West....  Just because they lose players in key positions doesn't mean they won't be good......   I guarantee you he is not pleading to fans that he's lost players in key positions, and saying they're young........ The good ones reload, the not so good ones are always rebuilding.......     Tubberville reloads....

[GuvHog]

The reason Auburn was so successful in the SEC last year was their OLine & DLine.
Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's
why they won the game. Auburn lost 2 starters on their OL, and almost their entire DL.
They won't be as good this year, for sure not #1.

Guv.....  Auburn or LSU will win the SEC West....  Just because they lose players in key positions doesn't mean they won't be good......   I guarantee you he is not pleading to fans that he's lost players in key positions, and saying they're young........ The good ones reload, the not so good ones are always rebuilding.......     Tubberville reloads....

I have them picked #1 in the west myself, but not #1 in the nation.

[MrSpook1352]

I would agree that AU won't be #1 in the nation.  But they will be very good.  I was a TT fan when we got Coach Nutt.  I'll admit he hasn't had great records at AU, but the SEC has a lot to do with that.  Very few - very few coaches have truly great records coaching in the SEC.  That's because so many teams are good on a fairly consistent basis that almost everybody is going to have the 2-4 loss seasons sometimes.  TT is better than Coach Nutt.  I think AU will be in the top 5 or 6 in the nation and either 1 or 2 in the SEC.

[rzrbaxfan]

Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's why they won the game.

Really?  I thought it was because they made some adjustments at halftime and we didn't.  (sarcasm)

Just because they lose players in key positions doesn't mean they won't be good......

Agreed.  They lost many key players after 04 and sure seemed fine in 05! 

I guarantee you he is not pleading to fans that he's lost players in key positions, and saying they're young........

What kind of coach does THAT???  (more sarcasm)

[GuvHog]

Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's why they won the game.

Really?  I thought it was because they made some adjustments at halftime and we didn't.  (sarcasm)

Just because they lose players in key positions doesn't mean they won't be good......

Agreed.  They lost many key players after 04 and sure seemed fine in 05! 

I guarantee you he is not pleading to fans that he's lost players in key positions, and saying they're young........

What kind of coach does THAT???  (more sarcasm)

How many key players did Auburn lose after 04 and what positions did they play?

[swinemaster]

Four players taken in the 1st round is quite a bit to lose don't you think?

QB
TB***
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FS

[rzrbaxfan]

Swinemaster beat me to it...but anytime you lose an experienced QB, there is an expected slide, but with 2 very talented RB's as well, I think few expected them to go 7-1 in SEC play in 05.

[Adam Stokes]

  Most people are also forgeting about Kenny Irons.  He's as complete a back you'll find in the SEC.  Most magazines have him higher than Darren on Heisman lists and whatnot because Auburn wins football games.  Of course we all know Darren is better, but people outside Arkansas just can't see things as well as we do.

[GuvHog]

When you return 18 starters at Auburn, you should finish at least 7-1.

[rzrbaxfan]

Phil Steele had them with only 12 returning starters, 2nd fewest in the SEC, going into the 05 season. 

I knew they would have someone waiting in the wings after the Caddy & Ronnie Brown left...I had no idea they would have a QB come in and do as well as Cox did.  The coaches deserve some credit for getting him ready.

[GuvHog]

Phil Steele had them with only 12 returning starters, 2nd fewest in the SEC, going into the 05 season. 

I knew they would have someone waiting in the wings after the Caddy & Ronnie Brown left...I had no idea they would have a QB come in and do as well as Cox did.  The coaches deserve some credit for getting him ready.

Swinemaster mention only 4 so I though that was all. Sorry.

[To Kill A Mockinghog]

 

The reason Auburn was so successful in the SEC last year was their OLine & DLine.
Auburns OL lined up in the second half last year and tore the Hog DL up, that's
why they won the game. Auburn lost 2 starters on their OL, and almost their entire DL.
They won't be as good this year, for sure not #1.

They lost two off their DL, one of which was a pass rush specialist.  They return arguably the best two DEs in the conference with Gunn and Groves. 

They won't be a pushover team this year. 

They also got a new DC from the Miami Dolphins.  We, on the other hand, are looking to a high school coach as the new savior at OC.