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SEC Sports / Re: HerbSt: Venables had to "c...
Last post by jbcarol - Today at 09:15:00 pm
Caleb Williams looks back on culture change between Oklahoma, USC

by: Kaiden Smith



QuoteCaleb Williams has one of the most well-documented football careers in recent history, bursting onto the scene as a true freshman at Oklahoma with an iconic performance off of the bench in the Red River Showdown against Texas. Followed by a transfer to USC where he'd take home the Heisman Trophy and maintain his status as the game's top overall prospect before being selected with the No. 1 overall pick in the 2024 NFL Draft by the Chicago Bears.

"I lived in DC, I went to Oklahoma, then I came here (Los Angeles), and it goes back to what my parents instilled in me and understanding the place that I want to be, the situation that I want to be in," Williams explained. "None of this was a culture shock to me because I understood where I was going, what I wanted, and how I was going to do and go about it."

There's no question that Norman, Oklahoma and Los Angeles are extremely different in many ways. But because of Williams' quiet life outside of football, those differences never became too magnified:

"I think those are the biggest things because I'm a normal guy, I go out rarely, I play video games, I like to drive, I'm a foodie, all of that, my other side is football. And so just a normal guy, I don't get all into the stars and the Hollywood stuff. If you've seen, you probably never see anything on me because I stay out of everything and out of the lights and cameras and stuff as much as I can," Williams said.

"So being here, it wasn't a change for me. It wasn't a culture shock because I've been doing the same thing since high school, Oklahoma, and now here."

Outside of his low-key personal life, Williams' hyper-focus on craft also played a role in his seamless transition from Oklahoma to USC.
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Jump Ball / Re: The Emerging Model in Coll...
Last post by bphi11ips - Today at 09:14:08 pm
Quote from: DoctorSusscrofa on Today at 07:55:02 pmFirst, congratulations on the successes with your kid. My comments here are not meant to belittle that experience.
However, I just disagree about the transfer rule and most of what's happening with NIL. I like the kids getting a share of the money. I just think the money is getting inflated and unrealistic. When it takes $1M to get a kid to come play for you on top of a full ride before they're ever even a junior in college, I think we're over-paying. I also don't think a 10 year old actor should get millions for 1 movie no matter how good the movie is. Or a 17 year old guitar player no matter how successful a band is. The money comes from somewhere. And it's not coming from Walmart or Tyson or Amazon or Facebook or IBM. Ultimately high salaries come from the disadvantaged. The folks who have to decide whether to buy popcorn for their kids or not. Paying what used to be pro money to college kids who are still more talented than they are skilled is - in my opinion - crazy. And I think that and the lack of loyalty to schools and fans (and replacing that loyalty to money) will eventually kill the goose that laid the golden egg.

Thanks for the congrats.

I don't disagree with you about the value of an education and doubt most parents of college athletes do, either. 

But as an American and an attorney who represents the rights of talent, the O'Bannon case was a no brainer for me.  So was the Alston decision.  But Alston went further than O'Bannon.  Alston stands for the principle that you can't cap the cost of labor by defining the product as amateur sports. 

I don't believe for a second that the NCAA and college presidents devised some devious scheme early in the last century to screw college athletes out of a fair share of revenue.  I think they viewed college sports as many of us still view them, myself included.  Sports is a key part of human development.  Physically, emotionally, etc.  And we've realized that and glorified sports for that reason for millenia.

People like us who still buy into that concept aren't hypocrites.  We aren't naive.  But - we are a nation of laws, and the NCAA's rules on amateurism and restrictions related to them are now anachronistic when viewed in today's marketplace.  That's why the Supreme Court engaged in a very detailed historic development in Alston. Court's aren't supposed to legislate, but circumstances do change over time.   

The free market dictates what Americans pay for services in most instances.  Ticket prices are a good example.  Want your daughter to see Taylor Swift?  Dig deep.  No one has a right to see a popular entertainer in concert any more than they have a right to see an Arkansas game.  You have to buy a ticket.  The market dictates the price, just like it's now dictating the price of college transfers.  No one is holding a gun to Cal's head or John Tyson's, either. 

Schools don't have to pay athletes at all.  Many don't even award scholarships.  If you're smart enough to get into Harvard and want to play football there and they want you on the team, they'll do what they can on tuition.  But the Ivys aren't going to get into a bidding war for athletes. 

What American businesses who compete with each other can't do is enter into agreements with each other to fix prices.  The NCAA's rules on amateurism might have been intended to promote a healthy education for college athletes, but they were clearly price fixing. 

So people who think like we do are sort of between a rock and a hard place.  You make a good point about the distribution of wealth in this country.  People who work the hardest often make the least.  Education helps.  But at the end of the day I'll take free markets over government controlled markets - or worse - monopolies or oligopolies - every day, and I'll bet you would, too.   
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Quote from: ricepig on Today at 01:09:40 pmI'm pretty sure we canceled his visit earlier in the week.

If we are canceling visits at a position of high need, we must feel confident about others.
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Jump Ball / Re: 2023-24 College Basketball...
Last post by hoglady - Today at 09:10:51 pm
Quote from: The real Hogules on Today at 07:35:52 pmBest of luck to a fun player to watch!

Sad to not see Battle again in a Razorback uniform.
But Go Zags!! I will be rooting for him to have a great year.
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Week 12
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I'd like to see more small ball, I know I'm in the minority and that's fine and I love our team and coaches. Not a knock on them at all, just feel like we need to do something to get some pressure on the other team. Get some guys on and move them around. Try to extend the inning, put a little more pressure rather than trying to just get the pitch count up. And I know we have a few guys that swing early and it's worked at times and at times it hasn't.if a pitcher is struggling I'm all for it. Either way I'll cheer em on till the end.
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I can't think of any sport where being predictable is a good thing.
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SEC Sports / Re: What has been the tenure o...
Last post by jbcarol - Today at 08:57:50 pm
2024 Top 25 head coach rankings: Steve Sarkisian, Lincoln Riley and Lane Kiffin all crack Top 10

by: Jesse Simonton



Quote1. Kirby Smart, Georgia
Smart is the undisputed top-ranked coach in America right now. He's won at least 11 games in six of the last seven years, has a pair of national titles and just inked another No. 1 recruiting class.

2. Brian Kelly, LSU
Kelly has done everything but win a national championship at the FBS level. He's won at least 10 games in seven straight seasons, producing a Heisman Trophy winner in quarterback Jayden Daniels in Year 2

3. Kalen DeBoer, Alabama
While DeBoer's resume as FBS head coach is fairly light, the man rarely loses — whether it's at Sioux Falls or Washington (104-12).

5. Steve Sarkisian, Texas
Sarkisian won 10 games for the first time in his career in 2023, resurrecting the Longhorns' program back to national prominence by winning the Big 12 and making the CFP.

10. Lane Kiffin, Ole Miss
Kiffin just led the Rebels to their first 11-win season in school history, and like Sarkisian, has overcome a rocky start to his head coaching career (be it the one-and-done season at Tennessee or the stint at USC). Before Kiffin arrived in Oxford, Ole Miss had just three 10-win seasons in 48 years. (FIFTY!!!)
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Standings
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