Where is the uptempo we were promised

[Coondog Hog]

The players like to run and have looked good at doing it this year in spurts. I guess Kentucky is making too many for it to happen today.

[Table Rocker]

when you go 7 deep its probably not the best idea to run and gun all game, just my opinion

[Ironhawg]

Not enough players.  Not enough athleticism.

[N HOG]

Yeah.  Might get beat if we did that.

[tiber]

Are you kidding?  Uptempo? 

Where is the 2nd wave going to come from? 

[3kgthog]

Washington could barely make make it to the huddle on the last timeout. Pretty sure we don't need to run.

[Coondog Hog]

with only 7 playing for the last 2 months they should all be in shape.

[MakeMeOink]

Anybody remember one of Nolan's teams beating Delaware State something like 121-60 with Al Dillard going for 39?  Well Kentucky is doing that to us today!!!!!!!!!!!!

Arkansas basketball is an EMBARRASSMENT!!!!!!!!!!

[Queen Hog]

when you go 7 deep its probably not the best idea to run and gun all game, just my opinion

True dat.

[PorkerOinker]

with only 7 playing for the last 2 months they should all be in shape.

Calm down Coondog I do believe it was you that just posted two weeks ago that we need to be more patient with the players and coach PEL. This team did not play that bad today, they were outmanned and just simply got beat by a better team. The effort and heart some of these guys are playing with in great and others are starting to come along. The good thing is they are all probably going to be back next year with a little more help coming in I really think next year will end up being closer to what we thought this year would be after the Oklahoma and Texas wins.

[Swine & Cheese Club]

Yeah.  Might get beat if we did that.

There's no MIGHT about it.  We don't have the depth to run and gun this year hence the losing leads in the second half and getting beat by double digits.  Get more bodies on the bench and you'll see us running and pressing more.

[N HOG]

There's no MIGHT about it.  We don't have the depth to run and gun this year hence the losing leads in the second half and getting beat by double digits.  Get more bodies on the bench and you'll see us running and pressing more.

I'm confused on two points:

1. How many conference games have we won by not running?

2. Contrary to what many are now trying to claim, we've only blown leads in a couple of conference games. Most of them we have been out of it early.

[Wayne Watson]

There's no MIGHT about it.  We don't have the depth to run and gun this year hence the losing leads in the second half and getting beat by double digits.  Get more bodies on the bench and you'll see us running and pressing more.

I agree but you can't get so called "fans" (spectators) to understand that.  It's like playing football with 18 guys.  Pel needs to get to recruiting, which I'm pretty sure he knows this, and get his team in here.  I give him and his team 2 more years.

[Swine & Cheese Club]

I'm confused on two points:

1. How many conference games have we won by not running?

2. Contrary to what many are now trying to claim, we've only blown leads in a couple of conference games. Most of them we have been out of it early.

1.  Irrelevant.  It's not a possibility in conference because of the short bench.

2.  I'm not claiming we have blown leads in every game but I can remember 2 recently that we ran out of gas and gave up double digit leads and eventually got beat by double digits.  We almost gave up a 20+ point lead in the OK game.  Luckily we had the depth to hang with them the last 4 minutes.  Depth is not a luxury we have now.

[RazorbakEuphoricDysphoria]

Its really hard to have an uptempo Offense when we are not playing D, the second half was more uptempo but they beat our press consistently!! I was still pleased with the effort!!

[woodhog14]

The players like to run and have looked good at doing it this year in spurts. I guess Kentucky is making too many for it to happen today.

For the 9,125,672 time...WE DO NOT HAVE THE DEPTH TO PRESS AND RUN. WE BARELY PRESSED OU AND TEXAS!!! We've barely pressed all year.

[woodhog14]

Its really hard to have an uptempo Offense when we are not playing D, the second half was more uptempo but they beat our press consistently!! I was still pleased with the effort!!

Agree!!! Great effort today!

[N HOG]

For the 9,125,672 time...WE DO NOT HAVE THE DEPTH TO PRESS AND RUN. WE BARELY PRESSED OU AND TEXAS!!! We've barely pressed all year.

For the 10 millionth time -- what difference does it make?

We are going to lose if we run; we are going to lose if we don't run.

I guess you could say we have some borderline moral victories when we don't run, if that makes you feel better.

[ErieHog]

For the 10 millionth time -- what difference does it make?

We are going to lose if we run; we are going to lose if we don't run.

I guess you could say we have some borderline moral victories when we don't run, if that makes you feel better.

It makes a *tremendous* difference.   The only chance we have to eek out *any* win the remainder of the year is to not run our guys into the ground.  Running them down accomplishes nothing, save getting us beat even worse than we have been.

[N HOG]

It makes a *tremendous* difference.   The only chance we have to eek out *any* win the remainder of the year is to not run our guys into the ground.  Running them down accomplishes nothing, save getting us beat even worse than we have been.

Meeks played 37 minutes today. Did he look tired to you at the end?

[ErieHog]

Meeks played 37 minutes today. Did he look tired to you at the end?

*An* elite guy can do that, but even then, there's no certainty he will have his legs in March when Kentucky needs him most.   When Arkansas's marginal players (who certainly aren't Jodie Meeks) can't even get up and down the court at better than a walk already, running and pressing isn't just a bad tactic.

It'd be downright idiocy

[WMHawgfan]

It makes a *tremendous* difference.   The only chance we have to eek out *any* win the remainder of the year is to not run our guys into the ground.  Running them down accomplishes nothing, save getting us beat even worse than we have been.

correct. if you only go 7 deep you have to play a half court game. You have to slow it down and run the offense and take the breaks when they are there. The problem we have is that we are not very good in half court sets and our defense is not good enough to keep us in the ballgame.

The players we have are pretty good in an up tempo game, we just can't play it due to a lack of quality depth. we have been yelling for henry, clark, and moore to get more minutes but watching the game today it was obvious why they weren't. clark and moore were constantly out of position on defense and getting pushed out of lane on rebounds while henry was out of control. i lost track of how many turnovers he had.

[chiefsfan]

Meeks played 37 minutes today. Did he look tired to you at the end?

Meeks has also been in college a few years and knows what its like to play 40 minutes.

the average player on this team was in high school last year, and often sat the last 10 minutes because they had such a huge lead

[Brand X Hog Fan]

I agree but you can't get so called "fans" (spectators) to understand that.  It's like playing football with 18 guys.  Pel needs to get to recruiting, which I'm pretty sure he knows this, and get his team in here.  I give him and his team 2 more years.

'Nuff said.

[Porkatarian]

I believe we will see the uptempo pressing style of play when Pel has a roster full of players.   We simply don't have the depth to run and press an entire game.

Honestly, I don't care if we run and gun or walk it up.  I just want win and win the right way, with players doing right off the court and playing together on the court.  I want to see us playing great defense every night (regardless of tempo) and giving 100% effort for the entire 40 minutes.  Is that too much to ask?


Porkatarian out...

[al2305]

Id be very surprised if this team wins any more games, only hope is maybe Georgia, no depth, no experience, no chemistry, no confidence.  We have to face the fact that it's just not gonna happen this year.  Pelz is a good coach, he just needs some time to build up a team.  i doubt we'd be doing better with anybody else anyway.  Lets just support our team.

[woodhog14]

For the 10 millionth time -- what difference does it make?

We are going to lose if we run; we are going to lose if we don't run.

I guess you could say we have some borderline moral victories when we don't run, if that makes you feel better.

Forget it...obvioulsy you don't have a clue.

[Conway Hog]

just how many men does it take to play uptempo one half of the game? 

[12247]

Young Guys, all first year starters, short bench, a coach who is hell fire and brimstone, these players are going through hell trying their best which just isn't good enough right now.  I would like to see the coach smile and offer a little encouragement on the rare occasion one of his players does do something correct.  Other than that, I don't see anything we could do to help our situation other than give these players and coaches time.  Running would be dreadful.  Instead of making it 2.5 quarters pretty good, we'd be finished in 1.5 quarters with the dame result.  I ask you, in the past 7 years what have we really accomplished?  One NCAA tourny win and who won that, Pel, with a group of under achieving seniors and 1 good under classman who is no longer on campus.  This bunch of freshmen is ready to blow right now and we aren't helping matters one bit.  We are mostly a bunch of has beens or never was rattling on about something we know little or nothing about.  I wish we would win them all but I still love this team of effort givers and tryers.  Welsh goes stupid about every 4th time he touches the ball, but by damn, hes trying his best as are the rest.  These players will win games eventually.  They will weather the storm and be the best they can be.  If you just can't wait, pick a winning team and root for them until Arkansas mans up a team you can brag about, likely in 2 or 3 years.

[Lard]

Washington could barely make make it to the huddle on the last timeout. Pretty sure we don't need to run.

Washington couldn't make it to the huddle at the under 16 timeout in the first half.....that dude is lazy and he must smoke.

[Conway Hog]

let's see....Meeks can play up to 37 mins. and not look tired but, Washington can play 35 min and be so exhausted he can barely walk to the huddle at time out.  You say Meeks has learned how to pace himself because he has played a few years.  Isn't Washington a Junior?  Just another excuse for bad performance!

[Coondog Hog]

Never once have I been against Pel i think it will take a couple more years to make his system work.  i feel that if we have the same type of season next year he is toast, but not to my liking. 

I simply asked where the uptempo was this year, if you look back at some of our best moments this year we were in transition.  Hell we aint got much of a chance the rest of the year we might as well try to do the one think we have shown signs of success in depth or no depth.

[31to6]

when you go 7 deep its probably not the best idea to run and gun all game, just my opinion

When we have run we have run out of gas in the second half because we aren't deep enough and conditioned enough to run for 40 minutes.

darned if you do, darned if you don't.

[N HOG]

let's see....Meeks can play up to 37 mins. and not look tired but, Washington can play 35 min and be so exhausted he can barely walk to the huddle at time out.  You say Meeks has learned how to pace himself because he has played a few years.  Isn't Washington a Junior?  Just another excuse for bad performance!

I'm with you. This board is just amazing. The excuses come so fast they just mess you up.

[N HOG]

Forget it...obvioulsy you don't have a clue.

Sorry. I understand your point now -- and it is well-taken. I wasn't getting it at first.

You are saying that we would really be having a bad conference season if we tried to run. Therefore, we don't need to run and press.

After I've thought it through, it makes a lot of sense.

[PorkPusher]

Duh!!!  You have to play defense and keep the opponent from scoring to run.

[rude1]

The reality here is that Pel has not shown the ability to recruit enough quality bodies to run any kind of system, let alone one that demands you have an 8 or 9 player rotation. I like Pel and want him to do well, but his inability to recruit is what is ultimately going to get him run. Some are suggesting it's his lead recruiter and assistant coach in Olstrom, and that Rob Evans the most experienced assistant doesn't recruit. What kind of staff is that? You don't need a lead recruiter not being a great recruiter nor your most experienced assistant coach not recruiting. If all of this has merit, then it explains what I am seeing out there on the court. A young coach who is in over his head, who had no idea of how to even get a good staff assembled around him.

[thirtythree]

let's see....Meeks can play up to 37 mins. and not look tired but, Washington can play 35 min and be so exhausted he can barely walk to the huddle at time out.  You say Meeks has learned how to pace himself because he has played a few years.  Isn't Washington a Junior?  Just another excuse for bad performance!

MW was coming off of the bench. I don't know about you, but I saw a play yesterday where he blocked it and got the follow up on the other end. That's hustle and lazy. I think he should be ina little bit better shape, but it's not laziness. They also didn't do all the running this team is doing this year. They were more of a slowed down tempo last year. It's not an excuse. It's just the way it is.