Is Pels incoming class going to fill our needs????

[hogzilla3]

I think we need some more bigs for the boards and another point guard.  The two forwards coming in will fill some needs at that position.  Dang that just sounds like we have a lot of needs. lol

[ThisTeetsTaken]

I think we need some more bigs for the boards and another point guard.  The two forwards coming in will fill some needs at that position.  Dang that just sounds like we have a lot of needs. lol

We do have a lot of needs IMO.  We need two big bodies, a point guard, and a shooting guard/combo guard with some height.    IMO Fortson could be a steady PG but we need another one coming off the bench (hopefully taller).   Rot Clarke IMO should be more of a role player than a major minutes contributor at the 2.   Ideally we would have a 6-3 guard starting in front of him and letting RC come off the bench (Henry?).    Moore and Clark need much more meat on their bones.   

[newera]

Big men, def. and another Pt. Guard to come off the bench. I wish we could just recruit 2 more Michael Washington's...

[Beaverfever]

We need like 4 guys in the 6-3 to 6-8 range that are versatile

[The_Iceman]

I don't know about you guys, but i think Andre Clark is going to be a star once Pelphrey gives him more playing time.

The kid is 6'9", long arms, incredible verticle jump, and has shown he can hit the open jumper.

Clarke and Washington need to be playing together alot more. Add Powell to them next year and we are in great shape.

[Niels Boar]

It would be nice to add a PG and a SG with some size.  Both Fortson and Clarke are potentially very good SEC guards, but I'm not sure that they aren't less than the sum of their parts together.  With a quality backup of any kind Fortson could get more aggressive on D.  He showed he could be disruptive against LSU.  That would help.  We need another consistent perimeter shooter with size at any position to help Clarke.  Right now zero production at PF is drag at both ends.  Hopefully Powell and development by the frosh will solve that next season.  If we are going to be small in the backcourt, we really need to have some shot-blocking at #3 - #5.

[The_Iceman]

We need like 4 guys in the 6-3 to 6-8 range that are versatile

agreed.

Powell and Farmer fit that mode perfectly.

[jamie72921]

The last thing we need are plodding big men to clog the middle of the lane.

Marshawn Powell will be an impact player on the blocks for us and allow us to move Sanchez into his natural role of spelling our starters along with Moore.

Farmer is big guard, the biggest need for this team. He and Henry on the floor at the same time would be formidable. He and Henry would also be interchangeable on the nights that Clarke is hitting and in the lineup. This would add needed depth for team.

We are also looking at a 3rd big guard and have a 4* forward who decomitted from Bama who is very interested in us at this point.

We will be very good next season if only Powell and Farmer make it to campus.

[athunt]

I think Pel needs to recruit a new strength and conditioning coach..wheres the beef

[Foshodo]

considering with Monk out, we really dont have a SF... Farmer and Henry could at least play the part next season. Powell should give Pel the ability to bring Sanchez off the bench like needed... the Borden kid is odd... while I'm always happy to get a 7 footer with potential, he'll be one of 6 guys to play 2 positions if he doesnt go prep school next year... blech... there seem to be about 5 or 6 problems with this current team... 2 or 3 might be fixed but only by moving around parts that only creates more problems in other areas...

[Cresthog]

If Washington leaves we will be worse than we are this year. Mark it down.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

If Washington leaves we will be worse than we are this year. Mark it down.

You got that right.

[hogzilla3]

if Wash. leaves we're in big trouble

[hogninja]

if Wash. leaves we're in big trouble

So, where is he going to go?  He's not League material yet.
:razorback:

[hogzilla3]

6-10 averaging a double double in the sec ,,,,,,enough said

[akp4105]

We do have a lot of needs IMO.  We need two big bodies, a point guard, and a shooting guard/combo guard with some height.    IMO Fortson could be a steady PG but we need another one coming off the bench (hopefully taller).   Rot Clarke IMO should be more of a role player than a major minutes contributor at the 2.   Ideally we would have a 6-3 guard starting in front of him and letting RC come off the bench (Henry?).    Moore and Clark need much more meat on their bones.   

Why do we need a PG? Thats not a main priority right now. We need depth in the forwards and another big man..

[mbgrulz]

We do have a lot of needs IMO.  We need two big bodies, a point guard, and a shooting guard/combo guard with some height.    IMO Fortson could be a steady PG but we need another one coming off the bench (hopefully taller).   Rot Clarke IMO should be more of a role player than a major minutes contributor at the 2.   Ideally we would have a 6-3 guard starting in front of him and letting RC come off the bench (Henry?).    Moore and Clark need much more meat on their bones.   

If we could get bigger and more athletic at the 3 spot (Jason Henry), then you will want RC in there. he is too good of an offensive weapon to write off as a role player.

He is building confidence as we speak, and if you watched him the last two games, you'd see that he is much more than a set-shooter. Soon, he'll have it down so that when players close out his 3 point looks, he'll drive right by them and make them pay.

Playing with a GREAT shooter is not something that this team is used to. They are really getting better though. They are getting more conscious about screening him, and delivering the ball to him at the right time.

[SECGUY]

No. We need 2 Guards with good decision making ability. Not likely in a freshman. Ex (Fortson)

[The_Iceman]

if Wash. leaves we're in big trouble

also, the sun will come up tomorrow.

sorry for the sarcasm.

[chiefsfan]

No. We need 2 Guards with good decision making ability. Not likely in a freshman. Ex (Fortson)

uhh you realize that anyone we sign is going to be just as inexperienced as Fortson this year...right?

[hogzilla3]

if wash leaves we still have Smooth moves Sanchez

[HAM ELLIOT]

if wash leaves we still have Smooth moves Sanchez

I couldnt help but giggle a little.  Sanchez looks a little awkward out there. 

[Razorod]

anybody heard whether we're in the mix if Tony Mitchell gets out of his LOI with Bama? Heard he may be looking for a release and there might be mutual interest. 6-6 wing player, originally from the 2008 class. Top 50 talent. ranked 38 I believe by Rivals and 50ish by scout.

[ThisTeetsTaken]

If we could get bigger and more athletic at the 3 spot (Jason Henry), then you will want RC in there. he is too good of an offensive weapon to write off as a role player.

He is building confidence as we speak, and if you watched him the last two games, you'd see that he is much more than a set-shooter. Soon, he'll have it down so that when players close out his 3 point looks, he'll drive right by them and make them pay.

Playing with a GREAT shooter is not something that this team is used to. They are really getting better though. They are getting more conscious about screening him, and delivering the ball to him at the right time.

He hasn't proven himself to be a great shooter yet.   He's  11 of 34 (32%) on 3's in SEC play.

[GoHogs1091]

Why do we need a PG? Thats not a main priority right now. We need depth in the forwards and another big man..

In my opinion, the Hogs BB Team needs a back up Point Guard, and another Shooting Guard (preferably both that have length and height).  I noticed that Coach Pelphrey is recruiting a Forward over in Memphis.  The Forward is Ferrakohn Hall, who is 6-7, 210 lbs.  Ferrakohn Hall is listed as a 3 Star by Rivals.  As of right now, the following will be the Forwards on next Season's Hog team.  The below list takes into account Michael Washington being at Forward next Season (provided Anthony Borden can immediately play the Center position).  Washington's natural position is Forward.

Michael Washington (if Anthony Borden can immediately play the Center position)
Andre Clark
Brandon Moore
Marshawn Powell
Jemal Farmer
Michael Sanchez

It looks like by the above list that the Hogs will have plenty of Forwards for next Season.  So, I am not for sure why another Forward is being recruited by Coach Pelphrey.  If Coach Pelphrey is insistent on getting another Forward for this recruiting Class, then the following is the Forwards that I would be looking at instead of Ferrakohn Hall.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=70365

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=67961

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=69597

http://www.hutchcc.edu/dragons/redsite/Basketballmen/2008-09%20Players/21%20-%20Dixon.htm

The upside to Cliff Dixon is that he is 6-10, and could possibly play the Center position if Anthony Borden is not able to adjust immediately to collegiate basketball.  In my opinion, I feel that we have enough Forwards based on the above list of 6 Forwards, and that the Hogs Recruiting Class needs a back up Point Guard and another Shooting Guard.  But, if Coach Pelphrey is adamant about getting another Forward for this Recruiting Class, then the above 3 Forwards that are in the direct Web Site links would be the Forwards that I would consider.     

[hogzilla3]

it would be nice to add another big to this team

[GoHogs1091]

it would be nice to add another big to this team

If Anthony Borden is ready to immediately to play the Center position, it will enable Michael Washington to move to Forward.  If Borden is not ready to immediately play the Center position, then Cliff Dixon, a 6-10 Forward would be someone to focus on in recruiting (I provided two direct links to information about Cliff Dixon earlier in this thread).  Since Cliff Dixon is 6-10, he might be able to play both Center and Forward (Dixon is listed as a Forward).

We definitely need to make sure to have someone in the Recruiting Class that can immediately play Center at the Collegiate level, which will enable Michael Washington to move over to his natural position of Forward.  If Anthony Borden is someone that can immediately play Center, then we would have six Forwards on the Team for next Season.  Six Forwards is a considerable amount of Forwards, and therefore, it is perplexing as to why Coach Pelphrey is currently recruiting another Forward if Coach Pelphrey feels that Borden can immediately play the Center position (Coach Pelphrey is currently recruiting Ferrakohn Hall, a 6-7 Forward over at Memphis).

If Anthony Borden won't be able to adjust quickly to playing Center at the Collegiate level, then Coach Pelphrey will hopefully be looking for another Center or a Forward that can also play the Center position (Cliff Dixon at 6-10 would be a good option if Dixon can also play the Center position).  Ferrakohn Hall, the 6-7 Forward over at Memphis that Coach Pelphrey is perplexingly recruiting, most likely won't also be able to play the Center position.               

[The Hogfather]

If Anthony Borden is ready to immediately to play the Center position, it will enable Michael Washington to move to Forward.  If Borden is not ready to immediately play the Center position, then Cliff Dixon, a 6-10 Forward would be someone to focus on in recruiting (I provided two direct links to information about Cliff Dixon earlier in this thread).  Since Cliff Dixon is 6-10, he might be able to play both Center and Forward (Dixon is listed as a Forward).

We definitely need to make sure to have someone in the Recruiting Class that can immediately play Center at the Collegiate level, which will enable Michael Washington to move over to his natural position of Forward.  If Anthony Borden is someone that can immediately play Center, then we would have six Forwards on the Team for next Season.  Six Forwards is a considerable amount of Forwards, and therefore, it is perplexing as to why Coach Pelphrey is currently recruiting another Forward if Coach Pelphrey feels that Borden can immediately play the Center position (Coach Pelphrey is currently recruiting Ferrakohn Hall, a 6-7 Forward over at Memphis).

If Anthony Borden won't be able to adjust quickly to playing Center at the Collegiate level, then Coach Pelphrey will hopefully be looking for another Center or a Forward that can also play the Center position (Cliff Dixon at 6-10 would be a good option if Dixon can also play the Center position).  Ferrakohn Hall, the 6-7 Forward over at Memphis that Coach Pelphrey is perplexingly recruiting, most likely won't also be able to play the Center position.               

Are you CLiff's brother, Juan? 

[jkstock04]

We've got to get a couple of guys with some sort of physical dominance down low or it's gonna be the same ole story over and over again until we do.  We are outmatched physically in nearly every game we play.  If they get the ball underneath to a big man we're beat just about every time, thats how we wound up losing tonight.

[HawgTide]

An interesting and informative post without a lot of constant doomsday predictions --- what a concept.

[mbgrulz]

He hasn't proven himself to be a great shooter yet.   He's  11 of 34 (32%) on 3's in SEC play.

He average 40 per game last year.

The goal is still 10' high.

Nothing has changed, he just has to adjust.

He is a great shooter.

[mhuff]

I saw Flowers play twice this year. I saw some good things. I am not sure we are recruiting Hall as highly as we were.

[Merle Hawggard]

He average 40 per game last year.

The goal is still 10' high.

Nothing has changed, he just has to adjust.

He is a great shooter.

so was brooks taylor at BIC (arkansas's All-time career scoring leader)
avg 40 a game, could do it all.....in high school!!
but not an sec player

im not sure clarke is either...

[75grad]

I don't know about you guys, but i think Andre Clark is going to be a star once Pelphrey gives him more playing time.

The kid is 6'9", long arms, incredible verticle jump, and has shown he can hit the open jumper.

Clarke and Washington need to be playing together alot more. Add Powell to them next year and we are in great shape.

Why not play Clark and Moore?  Stats couldn't be any worse than Sanchez.  Plus, gives them some experience.

[Baconator]

Here is the guy the Arkansas staff is currently recruiting:
http://arkansas.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=80620&sport=2

He was a sleeper until he began putting up big numbers and now a lot of high majors are beginning to show strong interest.

[NWASooner]

Getting some big people with some muscle wouldn't hurt.  Losing Marcus Monk killed this team.

[PorkRyan]

Borden is probably headed to prep school, right?

We need another PF/C that can come in and play immediately, in addition to Powell.

Aren't all 3 signees major grade risks?

I'll take all of the 6-4 to 6-7 athletic guys that we can sign, provided they have some basketball skills.

Washington is projected as a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft according to NBAdraft.net.  He souldn't be going anywhere, but if he does, next year could be Pelphrey's last year because we will be terrible.

[Baconator]

Borden is probably headed to prep school, right?

We need another PF/C that can come in and play immediately, in addition to Powell.

Aren't all 3 signees major grade risks?

I'll take all of the 6-4 to 6-7 athletic guys that we can sign, provided they have some basketball skills.

Washington is projected as a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft according to NBAdraft.net.  He souldn't be going anywhere, but if he does, next year could be Pelphrey's last year because we will be terrible.

I'm not sure about Borden and Farmer, but about a month ago on the radio Dudley said Powell would be eligible. I don't know how reliable his sources are so take it for what it's worth.

[BCShogs]

I think we need some more bigs for the boards and another point guard.  The two forwards coming in will fill some needs at that position.  Dang that just sounds like we have a lot of needs. lol

We do have a lotta needs. Most of the players that Pel brought in that are playing this year are projects or just not good enough to compete at the highest level. Unfortunately, the players coming in next year will probably be similar.

[BCShogs]

it would be nice to add another big to this team

It would be nice to pull the schollies of the bigs, including power forwards that we do have (except M. Washington).

[Merle Hawggard]

It would be nice to pull the schollies of the bigs, including power forwards that we do have (except M. Washington).

but he only played 22 minutes....if you doubled his minutes played you would also double his points total for a whole game (2 + 2) 4. now thats worth a scholly!

[forrest city joe]

In a word no! what we have so far, is flatout not good enough im my opinion.

[The Hogfather]

Here is the guy the Arkansas staff is currently recruiting:
http://arkansas.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=80620&sport=2

He was a sleeper until he began putting up big numbers and now a lot of high majors are beginning to show strong interest.

If we can add this guy and Tony Mitchell in the spring signing period to add to Borden, Farmer, and Powell, I would be VERY, VERY happy.

http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=53165&Sport=2

I won't get my hopes up, though.

[The Boar War]

Borden is probably headed to prep school, right?

All academics aside it is in Borden's best interest to go to prep school.  He needs to bulk up and get some more playing experience.  If he bulks up he could be a pretty decent role player.

[mbgrulz]

so was brooks taylor at BIC (arkansas's All-time career scoring leader)
avg 40 a game, could do it all.....in high school!!
but not an sec player

im not sure clarke is either...

Well, There were plenty of people who have forgotten more than you'll ever know who think he is good enough to play high-major ball.

You can bring out all the 'small white set-shooter' examples that you want, but I believe RC is capable of being a helluva a player.

You did read the stat line from the Bama game didn't you?

[GoHogs1091]

I saw Flowers play twice this year. I saw some good things. I am not sure we are recruiting Hall as highly as we were.

Chipola College in Florida apparently has one of the best Junior College teams in the nation this Season.  According to the scores of their games for this year listed on their Web Site, they have only lost 1 game this Season.  Two of their Sophmores are rated 4 Star by Rivals, and 3 of their Sophmores are rated a 3 Star by Rivals.  Their Center, Jon Kreft, is a 7 Footer (their Web Site shows that Kreft is 7-0).  Kreft is rated 4 Stars by Rivals.  Kreft would be a possible Center option for Coach Pelphrey if Anthony Borden has to go to JUCO.

Perhaps, Coach Pelphrey will find out about Gary Flowers and Jon Kreft.  The following is a link to Rivals information about Jon Kreft.  A link to Gary Flowers' Rivals information was posted earlier in this thread.  After the link to Kreft's Rivals information below, a link to Chipola's Roster is provided.  Jon Kreft is at the lower portion of the Chipola Roster on the link. 

http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?pr_key=87966&sport=2

http://www.chipola.edu/extrac/athl/basketball/2008/roster.htm











   

[BCShogs]

Well, There were plenty of people who have forgotten more than you'll ever know who think he is good enough to play high-major ball.

You can bring out all the 'small white set-shooter' examples that you want, but I believe RC is capable of being a helluva a player.

You did read the stat line from the Bama game didn't you?

You did read the stat lines from the rest of the games didn't you. He's a poor man's Lee Humphrey at best.

[mbgrulz]

                                     3PM      3PA     3P%       PPG.
JJ Redick as a Freshmen -    95       238     39%       15.0
Rot. Clarke SO FAR        -    45       120     37%       11.0
Lee Humphrey as a FR -       25        57      43%       3.8

Stat Line This

You're a poor man's me.

[The Hogfather]

                                     3PM      3PA     3P%       PPG.
JJ Redick as a Freshmen -    95       238     39%       15.0
Rot. Clarke SO FAR        -    45       120     37%       11.0
Lee Humphrey as a FR -       25        57      43%       3.8

Stat Line This

You're a poor man's me.

Snaps!

[Swine & Cheese Club]

                                     3PM      3PA     3P%       PPG.
JJ Redick as a Freshmen -    95       238     39%       15.0
Rot. Clarke SO FAR        -    45       120     37%       11.0
Lee Humphrey as a FR -       25        57      43%       3.8

Stat Line This

You're a poor man's me.

+1 for the stats and the reply!

Clarke will be a dagger in the heart of many opposing teams in his career here at Arkansas.  The game is a little fast for him now but will slow down game by game this season.  I don't think he expected to be guarded by the best defenders from every team his freshman year and it's taking some time to get adjusted to this.  People that don't think he is SEC material have no vision.